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Old 02-23-2008, 02:57 AM   #136  
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Dear friends,

I was successful in my restaurant challenge! We ended up going to a pizza place. I got a thin crust veggie pizza and ate three pieces (it was a small pizza) and brought the rest of what was left home to eat for breakfast tomorrow. I also had a side spinach salad. The Globetrotters were playing in a city about an hour’s drive from us. I got DD an ice cream cone on the way home and I didn’t get myself anything. I had the following response card as my mantra today: “I cannot be loose with my eating and also lose weight.” Credit moi… I also made a healthy version of sloppy joes (lots of veggies in it..) and it was delicious!!! Credit moi again…

Tomorrow’s challenge is that I am seeing a very good friend who is one of my old “eating buddies”… I am suggesting meeting at a park so our kids can play and we can visit and also trying to plan it between meals so I can eat at home.


BillBlueEyes: Love the strawberry reminder that Spring is around the corner. I love it when the days are longer and the weather is sunnier… NICE!

Kuhljeanie: 7 years of school? Yowsah…. Glad that you have commencement coming up.

Barbpos: Welcome to the group! You sound very motivated. I understand wanting to get right to the healthy eating part of things.. don’t minimize the other steps in Beck –there is a lot of power there to help with the long range goal of keeping weight off. You can do it!

Mesmerize: I am so sorry to hear that it IS gallstones! I recently pulled out all of my response cards from the bowels of my purse and put them in places that I SEE them regularly and think about them… I have been trying to keep one meaningful one for that day in my head OR one of my reasons for losing weight. Starting over is good but maybe just revisiting one or two of the days may help??? Take it or leave it. Hugs to you…
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Thumbs up Saturday under 8 inches of pristine snow

Diet Coaches - Got to the gym before the snow but substituted shoveling for my anticipated walk. Both CREDIT moi and Oh, Well. It is light, easy shoveling snow that can't possibly stay long if I'm eating strawberries, LOL. Too many things to do this weekend, some due to pointless procrastination, including preparing tax info for an accountant's appointment on Monday. Yikes!!! Beck needs to add a chapter on the danger of getting behind. There's a part of my brain whispering that snacking will reduce the tension. Need to use that Response Card other's have published, "If hunger isn't the problem, food isn't the solution."

[Looking for someone to start the discussion for Program-day 12, Practice Hunger Tolerance]


Heidi (hbuchwald) - What a great Response Card, I cannot be loose with my eating and also lose weight. Will have to steal that for my collection. Kudos for your success with the restaurant eating challenge. You didn't mention whether the Globetrotters won, LOL. By-the-by, how is Henry doing (other than excited to have you both home again)?

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Kudos for getting back on track. Good luck with getting a little ahead this weekend. "Phew!" seems like an understatement, LOL. Thanks for the insights about ghrelin, leptin, hunger, and sleeping - another good reminder that it's crucial to schedule sufficient sleep for a healthy life.

Mez (mezmerize) - Ouch about that gallstones test! Sending supporting thoughts for your conversation with the surgeon on Monday, as well as for your weigh in. Keep the faith; doesn't sound to me that you're off track so much as just experiencing a bump in the road,

barbpos - Sorry to hear of your new diagnosis Hope that South Beach and Beck can make some positive changes there. And, Kudos for a roaring start on your Beck journey. It's perfectly acceptable in Beck's book to start your diet when you already know what you're going to do. Sounds like you have your primary diet plan and exercise plan in place. Beck strategies are great for the issue you raise, "until I reverted to old habits and regained." Do you have a real life diet coach or do you plan to use this group? Jump right in with comments anytime.


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Old 02-23-2008, 12:11 PM   #139  
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Hbuchwald Kudos on your restaurant challenge and your plan to meet up with your friend. I read these ways to work around what sometimes seems impossible thinking the old way. It is very inspiring.

Barbpos Welcome!!

BillBlueEyes LOL at the procastionation comment. I think I have a huge touch of that myself.

Today is a new day and Im going to do my best to stay focused. I do give myself credit last night my husband picked up some of the best food porn for my son and himself. He asked if it would derail me. I said no. While I do what to order (more food porn) I know its something that will only make me feel bad after I eat it. Its only a desire. I can control it. So we went to the drive though and I kept that in mind its only a desire Im in control. We drove home and I made myself a veggie pizza with lots and lots of veggies. (It was so good!) You know what I didnt crave or desire what they ate after I got Im in control in my head. Im horrible with words I hope you get the just of what I mean. I started my other Aerogarden 4 days ago. I planted the salad mix. They are growing like weeds. Already inch high. My herbs are still doing great. I have a surplus of Basil and dill. Im going to dry. My husband and son joke saying Im turning our kitchen into a jungle. I really should take a picture
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Hi to all,

Mexmerize-Congradulation on the success of dealing with the food porn-That was very admirable to then go home and cook for your self-I think that was a hugh victory-much credit. I am envous of fresh basil-I could find none the other days and the dish was not just the same-keep us posted about the garden-may have to get on-fresh basil is one of my favorite herbs. Sorry to hear about your gallstones.

Welcome to you Barbpos- Very glad you joined us-What day on you working on? so nice you got a home team helping do Beck-The weight loss will help with the blood pressure. Improved health is my biggie as I have 11 yrs on you and this weight is really bothering my joints- and so far have avoiding getting diabetis. Best of luck on making the healthy changes.

BillBlueEyes-you are so brave to make the tax appointment prior to getting everything ready. This week was slated to do the taxes however the kids and GD visit changed that. After I get them 1/2 done then I'll make our appointment. I am looking forwatd to change in Veggie with spring and summer. I did have some great Strawberries at last week party-(too bad they were dipped with rich dark chocolate-yes quite good).

Last night we went to the movie and saw How to Cook your life with Zen master Ed Espe Brown who answered questions after the film. It focused on the gift of preparing wholesome foods along with some of the zen philosophy. A gentle sweet movie especially after some of the increditable violent ones around.

Heidi-Sometimes I get the organic TJ-dark chocolate-73% super dark-a small secton 45 cals +2 oz of good red wine-I now don't like regular sweeter chocolate anymore-that is good thing for me.Still finished that ice cream which everyone swore they would eat but forgot to. -Great you have a plan for when around old eating buddies-I got couple eating/ drinking buddies who I love but whom I have a very hard time spending alot of time with.-the old habits just crop right back up.

Jean-interesting science about why exhaustion and overeating are so closely linked. Love the name El nino for your son-way too much time in the car with crying baby!. I bet all the exercising you have been doing the last number of weeks has helped with scales even when you did over eat.

I have put in 5 days of swimming for 4 hours and inspite of some stupid overeating I did not regain anything Yeah-plus I moved much more than usually due to babysitting. Today has been very cold, windy and raining (glad the kids left in time to miss this storm) so I know the pool is in the low 70's-joints are already painful-hard to open jars and such So the joints will hate the cold. I am addicted to swimming and love the sense of relaxation afterwards and really do miss it.

Take care all

I'll the next session of Beck tomarrow-if the power stays on-the wind is really howling so never know.

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Hello there Beckies,

My challenge today was so problem whatsoever! I ate my lunch at home as planned, met up with friends who we haven't seen in too long, let the girls run around at the park while the moms chatted in the sunshine. NICE! She brought brazil nuts and apples to the park to snack on-no problem! Then, tonight, I made "quinoa lettuce wraps" (a recipe from the nutrionist) and they were DELICIOUS! I have leftovers for tomorrow and the next day-YUM! I didn't know what quinoa was until I took that healthy cooking class-I really like it. I called a friend to go for a good power walk tomorrow and her daughter can babysit my daughter. I will take doggie so he can get a good "deep tissue" walk in too-he can handle it again now! Anticipating going back to school on Monday after having a week off. I love teaching but I sure love my time at home too!

Mezmerize: I love the aerogarden concept! DD and I were talking last summer about doing a garden this year. I should do some starts inside soon and plant them later on outside. It sounds so nice to be able to clip your own herbs and lettuce as needed at home! I would love to see a picture of the jungle in your kitchen!

BillBlueEyes: This is really unusual but the game was VERY close but the GTs did win thankfully..hahahaa... Henry is doing just GREAT-it is such a miracle but he really is just like he was before the whole episode. I am hugging him now.. The snow sounds so wonderful... but then, I am also enjoying our SUNNy weather and feeling like Spring could be a good thing too!

CoastalSue: Love that movie title! I actually bought some dark chocolate at Trader Joes the other day. I REALLy love milk chocolate and haven't loved dark that much in the past. I am going to try it again with my "big girl tastebuds" and see if I can acquire the taste. Great job on the not gaiining despite some unplanned eating. Your love of swimming is so inspiring! I love that you are addicted to that relaxed feeling after you swim. Is the pool in your neighborhood? yard?

Til tomorrow friends, Heidi
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Diet Coaches - Serious pressure to get my tax prep done for tomorrow's appointment with the accountant. The challenge is to use the pressure to keep me focused on the task while avoiding the Sabotaging Thought that snacks are what I need to relieve the pressure.

A nice reminder that my healthy journey is real is that DW bugged me to bring the two wrapped Christmas gift chunks of good quality milk chocolate and white chocolate to some meeting to get rid of them; she's tired of them sitting on the kitchen counter waiting for Godot to come take them away. Prior to my journey, they would have been soooo long ago snarfed down, and now they're a nuisance to be disposed of. Nice change.


Sue (CoastalSue) - Kudos for your continued swimming and staying on plan. I have a wonderful visual image of you swimming across the boarder to twoderland, LOL. That does sound like an uplifting movie; hard to believe a whole movie about preparing healthy foods. That would help me to accept that "Nobody eats healthy by accident," and reduce my whining about the effort it takes to plan, purchase, prepare, cook, store, and pack a healthy lunch each day. Send me a little of your acceptance and gratitude, LOL.

Heidi (hbuchwald) - Boy, do "quinoa lettuce wraps" in the fridge for next week's lunches sound appealing. Do you have a link to the recipe? Kudos for the success meeting your friend in the park with healthy snacks. Yeah for Henry; you don't suppose he faked this whole thing just for the extra hugs do you?

Mez (mezmerize) - Kudos for standing down the food porn for a home made veggie pizza. What a concise summary of Beck's message, "I didnt crave or desire what they ate after I got Im in control in my head." Can't be more clear than that.

Readers If youre ambivalent about starting the Beck Diet Solution, consider this: Many people gain a few pounds every year due to a natural age-related slowing of the metabolism. " Beck, pg 19.

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I am so glad to have found this!

Hello I am new to this site and new to the book. I am on Day 4 today and I've already had to stop myself four times from eating standing up at the stove. I am making spaghetti and I want to taste the sauce, and taste the meat and taste the cheese. Sheesh!

So since I am to take credit for the things I did well, I am crediting myself for NOT eating standing up today at the stove!

hello HELLO hELLO TO EVERYONE HERE
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I've been lurking here for a while -- I'm starting Day 8 -- but I haven't really introduced myself before now. I hardly know what to say to everyone, and I'm not good at keeping up with what everybody's doing! But onebyone inspired me.

I'm planning on using the group here and over at the 100 lbs. to lose area as my diet coaches, so I thought I better pipe up. Thank you BillBlueEyes for being such a great group leader around here!
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and welcome onebyone. Isn't it amazing what a little awareness will do? Good for you!

I really whizzed through the posts last night and tried to catch up, but I know I missed alot...did see that Henry is doing GREAT, though, and I am so glad of that!

This is a designated study day, and I am bummed out about that because it is springtime in Minnesoda....28 degrees feels like 80 after the -30 readings this past week. That was -30 actual temp...wind chills were something like -50. Chilling.

BillBE, it was about -10 the night of the eclipse, but no wind, so we were out checking it out several times. Living in the sticks has its advantages...vitually no light to distract from the show. Awesome.

It is a study day, so I will take up the Practice Hunger Tolerance theme. It is a powerful one for me because I feel so much better, so much more alive, alert, and just plain upbeat when I eat just the right amount and no more. If I start to get noticeably hungry 3 hours after eating, then I am eating the right amount. It is just that simple. And if I am going to get to the right weight for me and stay there, then I will be as Mel on maintainers says, hungry several times throughout the day. I had better get used to it!

To effectively do the experiment/hunger demonstration/awareness exercise outlined in Day 12, i.e. skip a lunch competely ( I did it by accident a few weeks back and "counted it" as my day 12), we are to really analyze our discomfort with being hungry by referencing other situations and how the discomfort felt. I intend to do the exercise this time for real and will report back. I know some have already done so, and I am sure they will chime in on their findings as well.

For now, I will just challenge those of us lifelong overeaters to practice not only hunger awareness, but too full awareness. What feels like normal to many of us is really a fullness that is stuffed..that stuffed feeling that we have a lot of the time. I am not talking about Thanksgiving stuffed, but certainly dinner out..too -big-a- steak stuffed...or even good- old -comfort- food -hotdish- this -tastes- so- good- just -as-spoonful- more....oh, one more...stuffed...after a meal like that, do you feel energetic? I don't. I feel couch potato syndrome big time. Stuffed is the way we have eaten most days of our overweight lives.... we aren't really hungry by lunch or dinner, but it is time to eat, the meal is ready, and we eat a full meal! I know that if I am not aware, both of hunger and of stuffed, that is exactly how I behave.

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Hello all,

Welcome to Hafowler and onebyone. This is a great spot for sharing the work of changing those ingrained unhealthy eating habits.

Maryblu-thanks for doing an informative lesson on hunger-I also found this one of the best lessons for me-really had to look at how little hunger really was a factor in wanting to eat-so many others things made me want to eat-visual, social cues, emotional ect. Also learned that when I eat a modest amount I can feel hunger for awhile but it always stops after 20 minutes-just like I was told so often but did not believe until this exercise. As you said I actually can feel more alert with less food.

Today I notice that portion control is so important to lessen the "idea" of being hunger. We were out all day so we had some deli sandwiches-large yummy ones- 1/2 was just perfect for me-which was what I ate-but many times I wanted to get back into the bag and finish it -just because it was there. I was not hunger just had this crazy notion of entitlement to having my other half of my sandwich-I am chalking it up to old programing to eat until the portion is done. Learning what is right for my body versus finishing the current super sized portions in place in front of me. Next big step is lessen the desire/lust once I am near too much food.

Guess that is the beggie for me-to QUICKLY get myself refocused when craving unnecessary food-even if I don't eat it I dislike the preoccupation.

BillBlueEyes- hope you are done preparing for the tax man/woman- credit to do in Feb versus April-14th. Much credit for having to get rid of leftover treats from Christmas-very impressive not to unwrapped and eaten that candy-especially waiting for Godot to finally come. Yeap this new way of cooking can get me down at times-so much prep versus popping some high cal prepared dish. Some of the concepts mentioned in the movie came when people could not afford to lose one grain of rice- we do live in such abundance and ease to get foods. Helped to remember how blessed we are here.

Heidi-Your outing sounded great - both food, friends, and weather sounded fun. What are quoina lettuce wraps? I am looking for a good comprehensive veggie cookbook to learn new ways of cooking. I go swimming at an outdoor pool which is about 15 miles away-a bit of a pain-both the outdoors and commute-but the setting is lovely -can see the ocean- and pool is beautiful with usually less than 8 people in it, often I am the only there. So tranquil. I think it is the exercise which gives me the boost even when my body doesn't lose the pounds-inches go-plus my mobility and mood improves. Have a good teaching week-I love the challenge of running my classroom but loved playing when school was out.

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Hi coaches/beckies/friends,

Today was very nice here weatherwise. I took DD to the park and ran around with her and our neighbor girl a bit. I did stuff around the house as well. I also did a 2 mile walk with a friend who has been sounding really depressed lately. I asked her yesterday if it might be good for both of us to walk periodically together. She was into it and the walk went by very quickly. I brought Henry and he loved every minute of it. She could only walk for 2 miles which was just fine for us starting out doing this and then that ended up feeling really fast and pretty easy. Great way to begin! We also made a pact that we would each exercise at least twice this week. I committed to getting up earlier in the morning to do it at least once. I tell you since you are my coaches and I have more accountability when I tell you!

My adjustments based on nutritionist visit have been very smooth overall. Credit moi for cooking healthy food that I look forward to eating. So far, I am still enjoying the cooking part. I usually HATE the prep and the organizing, etc... I have a little system that is working right now so I appreciate that it is still positive.

BillBlueEyes: MAJOR kudos on that chocolate sitting there for so long-that is a "gargatu-step" in resistance-one that I aspire to be able to do as well. Hahahahaha..to Henry faking! The lettuce wraps recipe is hard copy-I am happy to type it in if you really do want it. It was a bit random that I chose that recipe out of the bunch in the book-I really was into doing something with quinoa and just love these wraps! Just let me know….

Onebyone: Credit to you for catching yourself standing and eating-those nibbles here and there add up quickly which we realize when we slow down and be more mindful when eating. Great work on noticing-sometimes those things can be so habitual especially when in a hurry cooking, etc.. Welcome!

Hafowler: Hello to you too! Don’t worry about keeping track of everyone-just share or ask what you want to. Those dancing characters are a neat idea-they are so HAPPY looking-what a wonderful visual and way to give yourself credit for all your hard work.

Maryblu-I am so impressed with how in touch you are with being able to tell what “just the right amount of food” feels like for you. It is so good to hear from maintainers and having a real idea of what life is like during that glorious time when we are at goal. Seriously, since doing the hunger challenge, I actually LIKE feeling hungry before meals. I know what you mean about alert, etc… I am now remembering how bogged down I used to feel when I would binge or just never let myself get hungry.

I was sitting at dinner tonight and contemplating whether or not I should eat the other half of my sloppy joe type thingie… I LOVE the stuff (another recipe from nutritionist in the name of being healthy and kid friendly)..I thought about the fact that I was not hungry anymore. I was not full but definitely not hungry. I still ate it. It was planned and I just did it. I need to practice the exercise in putting more on my plate than I plan to eat and then throw part away. That is SO hard! I didn’t feel terribly stuffed but slightly uncomfortable. Oh well… and back on track (not really off track but I was not hungry and identified that to myself…something about that is “off plan”). Oh well again.

CoastalSue: Once again, it sounds like you and I have similar issues that we are working on. I wrote the above before reading about you with your sandwich. How is the nighttime eating going for you? I haven’t had any big temptations lately and have been just eating on plan for the most part. It sounds like you have been doing well with that too..???

Okay…what is godot?

Thank you for the reminder of how much food (and everything else) we have as Americans. It is so easy to take it all for granted isn’t it? That thought actually may help me slow down when eating a bit more.

The pool sounds WONDERFUL..love the ocean view and it not being crowded!


Happy Monday everyone. Kids are always mellow on Monday mornings but after a week off they will be REALLY mellow.

Til tomorrow, Heidi
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Diet Coaches - Grrr... still working my numbers for this morning's appointment with the accountant for taxes. It's almost funny to note how the Desire for snacking grows huge as my tension rises - particularly since the pressure is due to my own procrastination. The Desire is large enough that I can see it and use the standard Beck strategies. It didn't slip under the radar and guide my hands to munchies. My biggest concern is mindlessly going off track without an opportunity to think of a response. For my procrastination, Oh Well. For staying on plan, CREDIT moi. Due to tension I had my evening snack of a Navel Orange early last evening and felt some hunger before going to bed. Was a nice feeling, since I knew it wouldn't kill me; Hunger is not an emergency. Responding briefly then back to numbers.

Sue (CoastalSue) - Kudos for being aware of your desire for the second half of that sandwich, and Kudos for not eating it. [Isn't it amazing how our postings run into themes; yesterday was half sandwich day.] Good to be reminded, "actually can feel more alert with less food."

MaryBlu - Thanks for starting Program-day 12. Great idea to practice "too full awareness." It's fun to find out that stuffed and even full aren't the required state after a meal. I like Beck's phrase, mildly full.

Heidi (hbuchwald) - Kudos for dealing awarely with the sloppy joe's half sandwich. Waiting for Godot is a play by Beckett that was performed frequently in the 60's or so. A quick read of the opening paragraphs at Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiting_for_Godot will convey the notion that Waiting for Godot is waiting for that which is never going to come.

onebyone Kudos for being aware of eating at the stove and Kudos for stopping. The early chapters of Beck caught me by surprise when I saw how many mindless eating habits I had. I think it's hard when cooking to distinguish the necessary tasting to correct seasoning from the tasting because it looks good.

hafowler Please feel free to just jump in; it's not necessary to figure out who's who and to respond. It's never required to respond to everyone, anyway. It makes a lot of sense to respond to just one posting that touched what you're currently thinking. The big thing is to post regularly to keep yourself accountable. You're on you way toward that 100 pounds.

Readers Add to this the fact that it takes only 20 or so extra calories a day to gain 2 pounds a year. This means that if youre 10 pounds overweight today and do nothing about it, a year from now you may be 12 or 13 pounds overweight the year after that, perhaps 14 or 15 pounds and so on and so on. " Beck, pg 19.

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