Originally Posted by AnnRue:
Well I know I will never convince the naysayers but for anyone else who has an open mind I have done some research on it and there are diet programs based on this and the reviews DO say it works. I am talking about Oxyicise and Body Flex. Of course, I am not saying that breathing will cause you to drop lbs and eat the same. Duh obviously but, as a factor that you might not have considered before.. maybe it would burn off about 100 more calories per day.

I am one of the most open minded people you're likely to meet.

Extra oxygen does not increase your metabolism. The end.

Originally Posted by SparklyBunny:
I'm all for clean air, but if lack of oxygen was causing a lot of diseases, then the people living in high altitudes would be very sick people. Instead it seems that people who live in high altitudes actually live longer than those of us who live at sea level.

But it is well accepted that those who live at high altitudes have learned to adjust (physically) to the lack of o2 all the time. So it isn't exactly apples and apples.

Also say a typical sea level person who drinks water and does exercise outside once a week is at 98% oxygenation level, but, you (general you), due to your life style, no plants, no outdoor exercise, no veggies... fruits... etc... are walking around at 96%, then, based only on your lifestyle... could use some more O2. Perhaps your body wouldn't adjust unless you had serious deprivation for a long time... as people do at higher elevations.

There are studies that show that after drinking water your metabolism does increase. They further said they could not account for why. They thought that it was due to cold water but it turned out that it only accounted for some of the boost.

This works with my real life weight loss. I did a liquid diet plan (mostly) and when I was mostly taking the liquid -- darn -- did the weight fall off me. Liquid diet plans over all do seem to produce faster results, why would that be?

Sodas are over all bad for people... why would that be? Sugar maybe, but what about diet soda? Could it be that carbonation is filled with carbon dioxide? What does drinking 10 cups of diet soda do to someone's o2? In fact if you put a fish in carbonated water, they die.

IMHO I think in the end, it is going to turn out NOT to be simple stuff. Look at the number of people on this website, if it was really *simple* I am thinking the site would be kind of inactive.

Then buy some plants, and check in a few weeks with the results.
If buying plants meant you'd lose weight, Everyone would be living in a green house eating their own weight in baked goods and wearing a size 6 comfortably lol

Come on now, you are an educated grown women, you know what needs to be done to lose weight.

Plants emit oxygen only in the presense of light during photosynthesis. At night they take in oxygen and emit carbon dioxide. So at night they would be adding carbon dioxide to the air and taking away oxygen - so by your theory, you should never sleep in a room with houseplants.


Then there's diffusion. Gasses such as oxygen and carbon dioxide disperse quickly, so unless your home is sealed air tight, there is likely very little difference in the oxygen concentrations between a plant-full home and the oudoors.

If this were not true, anyone taking a trip through a desert would die of suffocation. Likewise, humans would go blind if oxygen levels were drastically higher or lower in some spots rather than others. Hospitals are careful not to give patients more oxygen than is safe.

Fish die in tap water. Fresh water fish die in salt water. Salt water fish die on fresh water. Fish die in water when put into water that is warmer, colder, or any number of conditions that are significantly different than the water they're used to.

Humans die if they breathe in water, carbonated or otherwise, because the oxygen in water is not so easily separated out.

Virtually all of the water that enters the body, leaves the body unchanged, still in the form of water.

Fish do not use the oxygen from the H2O around them, rather their gills allow them to use the oxygen (O2) that is dissolved in water. They suffocate in water that has no additional oxygen.

Oxercise and other oxygen theories are not put forward by scientists or anyone with an understanding of even the most rudimentary chemistry. These are theories that have absolutely no basis in science and are not supported by any research.

There is much we don't know about weight loss and biochemistry, but there is also much we do. Before delving into the unlikely, one should first fully embrace the for sure and probably.

If you had a basic understanding of biology, chemistry, biochemistry and botany, you would see why there are so many reasons that your plant/oxygen theory is so unlikely.

If you like plants, fill your house with them, but before assuming plants are the secret to weight loss, consider learning more about the proven sciences of chemistry, biology, botany, and biochemistry.

One community college class in any of the four would show you how unlikely your theory is.

Leprechauns and unicorns are more likely.

Originally Posted by AnnRue:
IMHO I think in the end, it is going to turn out NOT to be simple stuff. Look at the number of people on this website, if it was really *simple* I am thinking the site would be kind of inactive.

After doing a protein sparing modified fast (with carb cycling), I realized that it actually is very simple to get rid of fat. It may not be fun and can feel uncomfortable, but it is very simple. It doesn't even have to be such a grueling plan. If you pick any reputable diet plan and just do exactly as you're told and stick with it long enough, you'll see results. Perhaps in some cases certain plans work much better than others, but I see the problems with dieting being mostly psychological.

What takes much more conscious effort is to figure out how to maintain the goal after it has been reached and live a relatively normal life. That's where the small stuff might become more relevant. That's where the lifestyle choices will either help you to maintain what you've achieved or will take you back to where you were before.

Originally Posted by AnnRue:
IMHO I think in the end, it is going to turn out NOT to be simple stuff. Look at the number of people on this website, if it was really *simple* I am thinking the site would be kind of inactive.

Fat loss is very simple. That doesn't mean it is easy. The industry itself makes it complicated because the simple truth doesn't sell books or magazines and it especailly hurts supplement sales.

The reason it is not easy is the more complicated part where genetics and enviornment collide but the message "eat less, move more" is the fundamental issue.

I have a reasonably fast metabolism and the only plants I have around are dried and get the cats high, or are dried and make me eat the whole fridge and then go over to BF's house and eat all his food too. I live in a city next to a polluted river and work in an office and it's winter here so being outside is physically painful.

IME weight loss was really simple. I ate better and moved more. It is much easier for some people than for others due to genetics, lifestyle etc. I have a low stress 9-5 job and no dependents, so I have all the time in the world to cook and go to the gym. Doesn't mean it was easy to say "I'll have water instead of a beer" or "I don't need this 2 am pizza that everyone else is enjoying," but it was simple as in not complicated.

I wouldn't invest in plant matter unless you've done everything else consistently for months or years and seen zero results, but I would recommend it over extreme methods like getting prescription stimulant drugs or starvation.

Also, people in the South Pacific islands (esp Samoa, Vanuatu, Tonga) are constantly outside in oxygen-rich areas and many are quite big because they eat poorly.