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3FCer344892 02-18-2011 10:35 PM

I'm having trouble being physical and creative
 
I don't know if this happens to anyone else, but it seems like I can't be physical (exercising) and creative at the same time. I don't mean within the same moment. I mean like the same day or week or month. I write stories, and I really want to finish my novel. But it just seems like when I start exercising, I can only think about working out or I feel exhausted and my brain doesn't want to work on stories. :( Is it just because I'm not very used to exercising? I think that this is a big reason I can never stick to working out. I love writing, and I don't feel like I'm being productive if I go too long without working on one of my stories.

niafabo 02-18-2011 10:49 PM

I write articles for websites for a living and I have actually noticed the opposite. When I exercise regularly my concentration increases. When I put of exercising it's really hard for me to focus. I have ADHD though.

NiteNicole 02-18-2011 11:02 PM

I have my best best ideas when I'm walking.

3FCer344892 02-19-2011 12:24 AM

Writing stories is a lot different than writing articles (which I have also written before), it takes a lot of creative energy to envision plots and characters. Sure, you can do research for certain places or eras or whatever it is you're writing about, but you have to come up with most of the ideas yourself.

And, for some reason, that part of my brain just doesn't want to work when I've exercised. Maybe it will change when I get more used to it (I hope so), because, like I have already mentioned, I usually abandon exercising in favor of my "muse".

Ciao 02-19-2011 12:28 AM

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I'm the opposite. My mind thinks
most when I'm working out, taking
a shower, and before I go to bed.

Hopefully you'll figure out what the
problem is soon. :)

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3FCer344892 02-19-2011 12:33 AM

To be honest, my ideas come when I'm sitting in silence by myself (that's why I mostly get ideas in the restroom), or if I'm sitting in front of my laptop. A little insomnia sometimes helps too, but the fatigue I get after a workout just seems to drain all of my ideas away. My thinking is pretty foggy right now (I exercised this morning).

Ciao 02-19-2011 01:01 AM

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* Have you tried writing before you work out?
* What time during the day do
you usually workout or exercise?
* Have you tried taking a nice, warm
bath after a workout to help clear your mind?
* Have you tried writing in the mornings
when you've woken up? Now that it's
getting prettier outside writing in the
mornings would be lovely.
* Maybe try rotating your time between
the novel and exercising?
Ex- Writing on Sundays, Tuesdays, Thursdays
Working out on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays,
Saturdays or vise-versa.
* Have you tried exercising, having a lovely
dinner, and then starting on your book?

Just some questions to answer and think about.
It sounds like what you need most after a
workout is relaxation. A lovely dinner, scented candles,
and warm bath would really help. :)

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3FCer344892 02-19-2011 01:07 AM

I've been working out in the morning. My writing seems to come mostly at night. I kind of like to be in complete darkness, with nothing but my mind and the light of my laptop. That could also be a big reason. The exercise is tiring me out, and I'm not able to stay up super late and write, though I have been known to write late at night/early morning and keep writing until it is around 9 am and then crash. lol.

I usually take a bath before I workout.

Ciao 02-19-2011 01:17 AM

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Then I suggest changing up your routine
for a couple days and see how that works.

You're working out first thing in the morning
which exhausts you. If you don't want to completely
give up working out in the mornings, a brisk
morning walk would be great, then you could
do your ACTUAL workout later on.

Also, I'd really recommend taking a bath/reading a
book after a workout and seeing if that helps you. It's
always nice to relax after a workout.

These are just my personal suggestions. You
know your body and daily schedule a lot better
than I do. Just from what you're saying, your
current schedule doesn't seem to be helping you much.

It wouldn't hurt to try changing things up, ya know? :)

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3FCer344892 02-19-2011 01:49 AM

That's true. Thanks.

saef 02-19-2011 11:56 AM

Yes, I also have trouble with this.

In 2008, at a funeral, I saw again a friend whom I don't see very frequently, but when I do see her, I'm usually at some dramatic point in my weight. She's seen me at 200, 107, 247 (when I came to town to do a reading of a newly published book -- a triumph, but I was pretty fat at the time) and 140.

I said to her, "I can either write or keep my weight down."

My sad theory is that both activities require a certain obsessiveness. And I'm only able to obsess about one thing at a time. This is because when I do one or the other, I make the stakes very, very high. I'm not just writing, I'm writing to finish something & to ensure it gets out there in a final, perfect form. Same with exercise. It's not just about my health, it's Being All That I Can Be, Working to My Limits, Fulfilling My Physical Potential. When I'm like that, of course it's impossible to be that intense in two areas of my life simultaneously. It would knock me out flat. I can barely handle working hard at one.

I wish I didn't equate moderation with mediocrity & being a dilettante, a mere hobbyist. But I do.

3FCer344892 02-20-2011 09:26 PM

Thank you for your input, saef. I can't believe I didn't think of that before. It sounds almost exactly like me. I guess I have a very addicted personality. When I'm exercising, I daydream of exercising more, and envision myself exercising or being at my goal weight. I also stress about my food consumption, and it's like I can't think of anything else.

But when I'm not changing my diet or exercising, my entire thought-process is put on my stories.

*nods* That definitely makes sense. I just wish there was a middle ground.

saef, do you not write at all while you exercise?

saef 02-21-2011 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Serval87:
saef, do you not write at all while you exercise?

The writing is kind of unstoppable. It always reemerges through some crack or cranny, such as in my posts on this forum. When I'm posting a lot here, it means I am not writing elsewhere.

But I don't consider this to be really writing.

This kind of writing is like walking someplace, because you have to get there, as opposed to a run, which you prepare for, and dress a certain way for (the right shoes), and map out in your mind, and when you do it, you're really focused on your performance & on going the distance. That's the kind of writing I'm not doing: A specific project which I work on over time, in increments, in a really focused way.

My mind is not going to the places it needs to go to do that kind of writing. I'm not ruminating. I'm not making connections between things. And I don't feel any urgency, like I have something to say & I really need to get it down. I have nothing to say. No subject, really.

So I'm thinking the weight, health & body image thing has crowded out the other obsessions, which keeps me from having anything to say about anything else.

Someone wrote that if women harnessed the power & time they spend fretting over their weight & appearance & put it to other use, they would rule the world. Maybe that's not true, but it has stayed with me as being appropriate for how I portion out my time & efforts sometimes.

3FCer344892 03-01-2011 01:38 AM

Wow, saef, that speaks to me on such a deep level. It's like you plucked it out of my mind. :) I realize, too, that there are times when I will sit at my computer and frequent forums. It really is like my mind isn't working at its usual level when I'm writing (or even jotting down notes).

katy trail 03-01-2011 01:58 PM

perhaps you could experiment with different types of exercise to find one that gives you more energy. or try yoga, pilates, ballet type exercises which doesn't sound like it would wear you out.

3FCer344892 03-01-2011 08:40 PM

That's a good idea, katy trail. Thanks. I was thinking of alternating weeks in the month- 1) Exercise, 2) Write, 3) Exercise, 4) Write. Or something like that. I find that I can also get house-chores done better when I write (the exercise drains me too much, I guess), so on those weeks I would also get housework done.

katy trail 03-01-2011 08:50 PM

you could make a house cleaning workout. especially if you have stairs this could really burn calories.

Purplefirefly 03-03-2011 08:53 AM

I used to have the same problem! I write online for a living now and have been writing short fiction since high school. I used to be a one-or-the-other person when it came to anything weight loss related and writing. I would get totally absorbed in one and the other would slip out of my life. I couldn't seem to balance it.

For instance, I would start to go for a walk then run back into the house because a great idea hit me...so much for exercise!

Today, I have found a bit of balance, but I still struggle. I found forms of exercise that are fun (Zumba) and that stimulate my creativity (walking, just me and my thoughts, sometimes jotting ideas on a small notepad as I walk).

Since I write for a living online now I have to set strict working hours that I do nothing else but work, which has limited the time I spend on fiction. Now that I am not writing as much fiction exercise is easy and enjoyable...so I totally understand what you are saying. There is something about story writing that drains you in a way writing articles and website content doesn't. I don't know what it is, the creativity is costly though.

3FCer344892 03-06-2011 03:52 AM

Sorry, katy, I live in a trailer, so that doesn't exactly work. I mostly stretch for exercise at the moment (when I'm not writing, that is).

Purple, you are exactly right. Stories do drain me. It's weird.

bunnythesAINT 03-06-2011 07:00 PM

Depends. Some days I'm too exhausted to write, other's I get ideas when I'm working out. I'm sure that once you hti a good equilibrium with everything all the pieces will fall into place.


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