Yeh.... what windchime said :)

I appreciate all the feedback on this one! The idea of doing this has been a very uncomfortable ponder for me BUT I'm so tired of everyone telling me that if I want to lose weight I HAVE to give up red meat. I LOVE steak, I won't give it up, to me it's probably the healthiest thing I can afford to eat aside from chicken and canned veggies. I can only afford the poor man's diet, hot dogs & spaghetti is the choice most nights.

The last thing I want to do is develop an eating disorder, I'm already not a very big fan of food, my selections are limited because I can't afford foods and because I'm afraid to try things and because I absolutely loathe seafood! As of late I'm trying hard to get past my hang ups about seafood (the sight of it, the feel of it in my mouth, the smell) because I know it is very healthy. I've been trying to force it on myself lately by taking pieces of salmon or shrimp at the buffets, or stealing from the boyfriend's plate.

I've never heard anyone say you have to give up red meat in order to lose weight. It doesn't even make sense. Red meat has a lot of health benefits and eating a little bit each week is not going to hurt you. It surely isn't going to keep you from losing weight. If you don't like salmon and shrimp, move on to something else. I hate shrimp. It's disgusting and I can't stand it. But I love tuna, tilapia and flounder (i like salmon too).

One thing you do have to learn is not to listen to "everyone," because if you do, you'll be completely confused. One person will say you can't lose without giving up red meat, and another person will say you can't lose unless you do eat meat or that you must give up something else (and there are tons of conflicting opinions on what you should or shouldn't eat).

As a person who has found that only lower carb eating works well for me,
I've not found red meat to be a weight loss deterrent. But, I won't tell anyone that they need to eat low carb to lose weight. While it works for me, that's all I can say - it works for me. I understand that many people, especially people who like me are insulin resistant or diabetic also find low carb dieting effective, but that doesn't mean it's right (or wrong) for anyone else.

If you've got kidney problems, protein can be a problem. There's conflicting evidence though as to whether a high protein diet, especially red meat is harder on healthy kidneys, and if so to what degree.

It's a bit like the aesop's fable about the father and son taking a donkey to market. If you don't know the story, here's a link:

http://www.pagebypagebooks.com/Aesop...Donkey_p1.html
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Well, I mean, you couldn't expect to do this when dining with others. So it would lead you to eat in isolation just so you could do it.

Absolutely minging!!

Better to be overweight than lacking in basic decorum and good manners!!

I am a diet veteran and have NEVER heard that you need to give up red meat in order to lose. That is absolutely false. I wouldn't recommend that you fry your steaks but you can certainly eat red meat many ways and still lose weight.

Chewing and spitting is a very common problem in anorexics. It's usually viewed as a safer method than induced vomiting or laxatives.

Why not substitute all ground beef for ground turkey & enjoy your occasional steak? :)

Count me in on the "oh iiiiiick" side. Have a smaller portion and eat it; get a doggybag if you must

That reminds me of the 'tragedy' of the wine-tasting club. Sip, swish, spit? I think not!

I thought of the Intervention episode too..... and hers was an eating disorder--- she would not allow herself to swallow.

I think the moderation thing is the key.

I saw this on an episode of sex and the city - except it was a guy.

Teetering on eating disorder behavior....definitely wouldn't recommend it.

I saw that on Sex and the City. Miranda's date did it, and she thought it was weird.

I saw the Intervention episode. It was very sad. Definitely a form of eating disorder. I felt so bad for that girl and she would do it out in the open even at a picnic and when people were around she just didn't care. That's how bad off she was. The doctor needs his license revoked to say that such behavior is okay. No doctor worth his education would ever say such a thing unless he is one of those guys who calls himself "doctor" and is one in his own mind. It's scary the type of information we receive. I have eaten it througout my weight loss and am already down 80 pounds plus. That is false information you received. You can eat red meat and still lose weight. Granted don't eat a whole 8 or 12 oz steak or a really high fat cut. You can have lean sirloin or some other lean cut of meat and enjoy!