decaf coffee
I was wondering if anyone had an opinion on the effects of decaf coffee on weight loss and general health. I just started drinking it and really like it (I don't like regular...some people find this really strange) probably because warm drinks are nice and comforting. I guess I could just google it, but I was hopeing some one out there might have a personal experience.
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I like decaf! I think I'm like you, I'm not after the caffeine rush, but enjoy the soothing comfort of a warm cup of coffee. I love the way it smells :)
Well, I was prepared to give you a big reply about the process used to decaf the beans. But then I ran across this article from Berkeley (and I believe EVERYTHING they tell me, lol) Quote:
It's possible that even decaf coffee isn't the best thing we could put in our bodies, though. Both regular and decaf coffees contain theophylline and theobromine, which have been linked to fibrocystic breast disease. Other compounds may raise cholesterol. Not everything is known about the beverage at this time. However, unless this is ALL you drink, I wouldn't be concerned. Regarding your weight loss, the decaf should have no effect, so I wouldn't worry about it. If you add cream and sugar, or serve with biscotti, you might want to reconsider ;) |
I'm reading a fascinating book called the Caffeine Connection, probably the first book of it's kind to discuss the benefits of caffeine! Anyway, research has been done that decaf coffee contains as much antioxidants as regular coffee, so I say go for it!
What brand do you use? I've used Tasters Choice instant decaf and it is awful. |
There has been new research recently discussing the benefits of caffeine in very small doses ... about 2 oz of caffeinated coffee every hour or two. Who drinks so little coffee? However, since decaf coffee has some caffeine in it, it seems to me that drinking two or three whole cups of decaf coffee is about the same as drinking 2 oz of caffeinated coffee.
Regarding the taste: IMHO, instant decaf coffee tastes no better or worse than instant caffeinated coffee -- the problem isn't that it is decaf, but that it is instant! The answer is simple: Don't use instant! By the same token, there are instant brewed decaf coffees out there that are as good as if not better than most of the brewed caffeinated coffees. Alton Brown (Food TV's "Good Eats") explained the lay-of-the-land in his "True Brew" episode. I'll try to summarize what I remember: Coffee doesn't come decaffeinated (though, they are working on that). So in order to have decaf coffee, you have to take caffeinated coffee and spend more money to change it into decaffeinated coffee. Makes sense eh? Then, keep in mind that the process of decaffeinating coffee does degrade the flavor a small amount, so to maintain quality you really need to start with slightly better beans that you would to get the same quality from caffeinated coffee. So there's two reasons why decaffeinated coffee must cost more than caffeinated coffee. Yet, the American consumer was found to be generally unwilling to pay the significant premium, despite all the "need". So coffee distributors made a compromise. In the store, decaf coffee often costs the same or just a dollar or so more than caffeinated coffee. They manage that by using much cheaper caffeinated coffee to start with (instead of the more expensive caffeinated coffee, which would have been more appropriate given the extra processing that it was to undergo to become decaffeinated), and processing that stuff into decaffeinated coffee. The combination of the cheaper coffee and the added processing yields a price many Americans are willing to pay. So what to do? First, you can find good decaffeinated coffee. A tell-tale sign of good caffeinated coffee is that it is significantly more expensive than the same brand's caffeinated coffee. If the caffeinated coffee is $6.99, then the decaffeinated coffee probably would cost about $9.99 or $10.99. If the caffeinated coffee is $6.99 and the decaffeinated is $7.99 or $8.99, then a real coffee hound is probably not going to be happy with the decaffeinated coffee. By the same token, a higher price is no guarantee that the coffee distributor is not just trying to bilk drinkers of decaffeinated coffee, so caveat emptor. Trial and error will hopefully help you find good decaffeinated coffee. I've only found one in my store: Melita. Even the Green Mountain decaffeinated coffee pales by comparison to the Green Mountain caffeinated coffee. Second, is my approach. I do enjoy good coffee, but am happy enough with coffee that tastes good. So I drink flavored decaffeinated coffee. Hazelnut, French Vanilla, Rain Forest Nut, Cinnamon Hazelnut, etc. The flavoring makes it relatively difficult for me to realize that, perhaps, the quality of the coffee itself isn't primo. I enjoy a decent, regular-priced Cinnamon Hazelnut decaffeinated coffee more than even a premium priced unflavored coffee. |
Some more notes on what makes good and bad coffee. People think they don't like "strong" coffee, when in reality what they don't like is bitter coffee. What makes coffee bitter? Trying to squeeze too much flavor out of it -- in other words, using too few coffee beans. Budget coffees try to put a strong front by saying you can get more cups out of their coffee, by using less. And indeed, you can, but what you get is bitter coffee, not more good coffee.
Even the best beans in the world need to be made into coffee using a formula of 2 Tablespoons of grounds per 5.5 oz cup of coffee. If your coffee is bitter, use more grounds. It won't make the coffee taste anything other than richer and more flavorful. It won't make it have more caffeine. The ground never make it into your cup (hopefully!) What makes coffee coffee is the process of water passing through the grounds. More grounds, the less the water passing through has to leech deeply, since more flavor aspects are still readily available to be dissolved into the water. The less leeching, the less bitter aspects of the coffee make it into your cup. Another thing to consider with respect to coffee is preparation. Coffee is best when the water is just below boiling, so that rules out automatic drip coffee makers. If you're using Mr. Coffee, you're already behind the eight-ball. So if you haven't tried it yet, you may want to see if using another method will make you enjoy your coffee more. Our favorite method is the Santos, an electronic vacuum coffee maker available from Bodum. (They also have a stove-top version, but that's a lot of work!) The water is boiled, and in doing so is forced from a bottom chamber into a top chamber, where the grounds are. They steep for a little while and the boiling of the water below causes the water and grounds to percolate a bit. Then the boiling stops below, and a vacuum forms sucking the water out of the top chamber back into the bottom chamber. We've never had better coffee, and it is really fun to watch, even two years later! Second choice is a manual drip. Melita sells these, in 2 cup, 4 cup, 8 cup and 12 cup varieties. They seem really low-tech, but there is a big difference between manual drip and automatic drip. With manual drip, you can get the water much, much hotter, and that makes a very big difference in taste. Third choice is French Press. You've seen these in films and on television, I'm sure. <grin> They really do make richer, more flavorful coffee. A downside or upside to French Press is that the coffee is a lot richer and even a bit thicker -- some folks find that to be a benefit, others find it a bit disconcerting. French Press coffee also tends to have a bit more caffeine, though if you're using decaf it doesn't matter much. Gosh. I'm sure that this is off-topic by now, but I hope that folks found it interesting and/or useful. |
Well I am not sure what difference it makes to weight loss but at Weight Watchers you can drink decaf coffee or tea and it counts as 1 serving of water. Not so with regular tea, coffee or caffeinated diet soft drinks. I think it is the fact that caffeine can contribute to dehydration but don't quote me on that :lol:
Personally I don't mind decaf coffee and tea. My doctor told me to switch after I starting having chest pains (not related to heart disease) and it they diasappeared after 2 weeks of decaf. Apparently this is something that happens to a lot of women and when they cut back on caffeinated beverages and chocolate it goes away. I still hate instant coffee though :p |
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Brian I found that long post of yours about coffee very interesting... I've had coffee in a French Press and it was delish. My MIL used to make it with Melita and it was always good and I wondered why... I'd love to try the coffee maker you speak of sounds easy and makes good coffee... Thanks for the info......
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Thanks for the info on the coffee makers...I wish I had a French press but DH doesn't like them.
I have never heard of the Santos - are they very expensive? Has anyone ever tried those coffee singles - they are a one cup premeasured coffee in a filter (sort of like a teabag of coffee)? I am considering buying these for work so I can make myself a coffee now and then. The coffee at work is horrible :p it is made at 9am and left on all day - one of my bosses drinks it throughout the day and will drink it at 3pm! It is like tar by then :yikes: He refuses to let us make fresh pots but I do it behind his back when I know I have clients coming in. I would never serve the clients coffee that I wouldn't drink. |
what wonderful information!!!!and bicker also explained something i could never figure out: why i don't like coffee unless it's made in a french press or in one of those stovetop neopolitan coffee makers - the ones where you boil the water in the bottom and the steam rises through the coffee grounds in the middle, and condenses at the top. for the REALLY old fashioned ones, you get the challenge of flipping the entire <very very hot> coffee pot over so that you can pour!!!
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Having said that, the coffee it makes is so much better that it is worth it to me to pay $100 every 2-3 years to have one in the house. Perhaps it is better to think of the $100 as a 2 year lease, rather than the price of a unit. Quote:
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Oh Blech! :p Then I will skip those coffee singles for sure - sounds horrible!
Ha! My DH could not get out of bed without his coffee :lol: I bring him a cup in bed every morning - he has to have a coffee and wake up kiss before his feet will hit the floor :rolleyes: |
I have a stovetop version of that coffee maker - the stovetop espresso machine, get them anywhere for a few dollars (£10 UK).
Decaff or full on it takes seconds to make a good cup of coffee. Simply cheat it a bit: Put the kettle on Whilst waiting for it to boil turn on a cooker ring Put the coffee in the filter / middle chamber of the espresso maker When the kettle has boiled pour into the bottom chamber and screw the aluminium pot together Place on now hot cooker ring and wait until the noise stops!!! Pour into teeny weeny cups for that first thing in the morning cup of hot jolt, or add more hot water for a longer more mellow drink! Easy and yummy and no filter papers! Coffee grounds used judiciously will keep your kitchen drain clear and free of blockages forever! (But I guess you guys in the US all have those garbage disposal things down your kitchen sinks - or the movies lie) |
Hehe. I wouldn't know what to do with food-waste, now, without my garbage disposal!
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