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krampus 04-28-2011 09:03 PM

Yesterday was a complete write-off all-day binge fest and today I have the pounding sugar headache and horrible bloated feeling that comes afterward. I thought I was done with all this business. Really don't know what's going on.

indiblue I had been wondering about you lately. It did seem like you were getting too freaked out about not being able to weigh yourself at home and I was worrying a little - I hope you continue to feel saner and enjoy yourself. Best to you at those interviews!

Robsia Sorry your foot is keeping you from the 10k; it really stinks having to miss a race you're excited about. May your tendon heal quickly!

claire I have no idea, I went off the pill and I've never had regular periods so I have no clue when I'm due or what...very nerve-racking to say the least. What is it about intuitive eating that is not going well if you're not gaining or calorie counting?

kat999 What's your training regimen for the 5k like?

claire0412 04-29-2011 07:51 AM

Krampus It is not going well because I've grasped the 'eat what you want' part, just not the 'only when you're hungry' part. I'm OK during the day, but when we watch films in the evening, the munchy monster comes out to play!

Robsia Gah how annoying! I hope your foot is better soon... I think every runner has one race that means something to them, so I understand. Mine is the Vienna City Marathon because I feel like I became a runner there, and not just an on-off jogger

Kat Good luck with the 5k training! I'm training for one too, but have got less time than you (eek!).

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All is well this end. I'm trying to avoid coverage of the stupid royal wedding but it is hard! I did intermittent fasting today to see what it was like. I managed from 9pm last night to 13:30 today (lunch). It was surprisingly easy, me likey. It helped me experience what real hunger is, so now I know what to look out for with intuitive eating. I will probably do it most days, because I don't even like breakfast really and if I'm not hungry until 11:30am, I don't need it anyway.

Dorian5 04-29-2011 08:41 AM

Weigh in day today -- 127.8lbs. I'm more embarrassed about it than happy, I didn't even want to post it.

I lost so much because I haven't been eating this week. I average maybe 900 calories a day, at most. I can feel myself slipping back into the mentality that I can eat very little and lose a lot of weight very fast. I think this swimsuit thing on Saturday triggered it, I really thought that I had until June or something until I had to worry about that.

I feel fatter than I did at 133lbs. It's weird how that works.

I hope I can reset after this stupid pool party and get back to normal.

Hope everyone has a wonderful Friday.

lilmonstervictoria 04-29-2011 11:38 AM

Good morning!

Well I'd have to say that I think eating at work was good for me...I managed to actually lose about another pound or two. I wasnt hungry at all after I ate lunch the other day. I weighed at 126.4 :D ! Which was the push I needed. I think I will be able to make it to 125 by Tuesday, I got 2 hours of cardio in yesterday in the form of an extreme circuit class and a zumba class (I got complimented on my 'moves' lol)

I am going to try to get a run in today but I work at one job all day then I have to work my other job this evening :/

I also have to go buy work clothes tomorrow, since nothing fits anymore!

Have a wonderful day you guys :)

lacey marie 04-29-2011 02:10 PM

So I can only afford a quick post, ive been boggled down with schoolwork...yesterday and Wednesday were really well, no binges! i did eat some crap, though, but I think it actually helps to eat a little rather than torturing myself ;) I had thought I jad eaten to much, but I ended up calculating todays calories--only 500 by lunch!!! :( afraid ill wnd up eating too little, Ill have to go over my meals before the day starts. On the bright side, ive lost 2 lbs! and this is AFTER eating and drinking my lunch. :) Ill have to changes my stats as soon as I can use my actual computer rather than phone... Well, im going to go sit out in the sun now. Its so nice out! hope ypu all have a good day tomorrow my lovelies!

skinnyelle39 04-29-2011 02:35 PM

Hope everyone is having a great week! I am flirting with the idea of IF as of 9pm last night. Currently within my eating window :0). It hasn't been too bad so far and I must admit my lunch was 10X more enjoyable being basically ravenous by the open of my window at 1pm.

Im also down 1.6 lbs as of this morning from last night. I did a spin class, began IF, and ate about 1275 calories yesterday. Im sure the loss can be attributed to a combination of all of those factors. Either way Im happy!

lackadaisy 04-29-2011 10:58 PM

You should definitely do IF!

I've been all over the place this week... after I overate at the beginning of TOM, I had a good Wednesday and then a horrible sleep-deprived off-plan Thursday. I think I ate so many irresponsible carbs (muffin, chips, cake -- refined carbs that I don't even like) because I usually get more than an hour of activity and more than five hours of sleep daily... and I'd gone without both for more than three days because of a last-minute group project. My self-control completely disappears under those conditions.

After sleeping a fair amount last night, I still felt ill today. I made a weak attempt to run, and it was awful; I could hardly go two miles. But I made an attempt, at least -- that should make it easier to get back in the groove tomorrow. Avoiding weigh-ins for now... I'd rather focus on resting and getting my eating back in control.

skinnyelle39 04-30-2011 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by lackadaisy (Post 3829641)
You should definitely do IF! .

Im giving it a try! I remember reading that you had as well. How was/ is it?

Good luck with getting back on track you can do it!

indiblue 04-30-2011 09:13 AM

skinnyelle I've been doing IF for almost 2 months and now I really don't want to eat any other way. I've never wanted to eat breakfast so consuming more of my calories later in the day works very well. It's not for everyone, but if it makes sense to you then definitely try it and let us know how it goes.

lackadaisy 04-30-2011 10:23 AM

I did a couple of longer ~24hr fasts earlier this week -- not the standard eating window method that a lot of IF-ers use. The first went well and the second drove me crazy, but I was also sleep-deprived and PMSing.

I'm actually doing another long fast today -- not to diet, but because of a hunger-awareness charity fast of 36 hours (dinner Friday to breakfast Sunday). I found out about it after I posted (and ate some hummus / mango sorbet) last night, so it will only be a slightly shorter 32-hour fast for me, but going that long without food OR COFFEE will be brutal.

At least this puts me at a solid calorie deficit for the week despite my earlier irresponsibility, right? Along with a day of nearly-raw eating yesterday, a solid ten hours of sleep, and the spontaneous hour-long run I went on last night, I'm feeling much better than I did yesterday morning. Whew.

lacey marie 04-30-2011 01:25 PM

Hey,
Would anyone care to explain what this IF you speak of is? Something to do with fasting and windows? >SPOT THE IDOT<

Anyways, I had a lacrosse practice today, and it was early. Yay (not). I get sick when I eat right when I get up, so I passed on breakfast. I got a 6" turkey (4 slices) sub on wheat bread, 1 slice of American cheese, lettuce, tomatoes, and no dressing/sauce/whatever you wanna call it. And that's all I really had today, I'm probably dehydrated, too, since all I drank was during practice, and I sweat it off....especially in this heat, I really should drink something. Getting to my point, I weighed myself just for the heck of it and found that I was at 138lbs. WTF? I was at 141 yesterday.... I'm afraid that if I drink, it'll just mess up my teeth 'cuz I just brushed with flouride toothpaste. I think I'll go take a nap now because I'm EXHAUSTED. Keep up the good work feathers! Don't get discouraged by the little things....

skinnyelle39 04-30-2011 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by indiblue (Post 3829920)
skinnyelle I've been doing IF for almost 2 months and now I really don't want to eat any other way. I've never wanted to eat breakfast so consuming more of my calories later in the day works very well. It's not for everyone, but if it makes sense to you then definitely try it and let us know how it goes.

Its going great so far. Today makes the second day. Ive been doing 16 hr fasts with 5-6 hour eating windows. Ive weighed myself over the past few days and Im pleased with the results in even such a short time. I feel great, I have a new found appreciation for meals, workouts have been awesome! I cant speak for the long term but I have truly been enjoying it all. Certainly feels more natural and Ive been sleeping like a baby. :smug:

indiblueWhat have your weight loss results been like since starting IF?

skinnyelle39 04-30-2011 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lacey marie (Post 3830206)
Hey,
Would anyone care to explain what this IF you speak of is? Something to do with fasting and windows? >SPOT THE IDOT<

You are not an idiot! lol I just learned about it myself about a week ago. With that being said, a simple (novice) answer on Intermittent Fasting is you fast (only consume water, black coffee and/ or tea) for 12-24 hours and then eat again during a "window" of time usually 5-8 hours but its all really up to you. From what Ive read there are many reasons people do IF. From a weight loss standpoint, its been said that eating within a certain window of a few hours allows your body to concentrate on fat burning during the 12-24 non-eating hours. You also arent constantly spiking your blood sugar as you are on a 6 meals a day, every 3-4 hours type plan ( thus not constantly battling cravings). It also REALLY helps lowering body fat percentage if coupled with a workout plan. www.leangains.com outlines this very well. There may be more benefits but these were all my reasons for jumping in :D

Ive also read that IF gives you freedom to enjoy foods you may not necessarily eat while "dieting" like excess carbs and junk foods with little to no consequence. For example, Ive seen McDonalds chicken nuggets and cookies on some IFers meal plans... and they are still losing! I really enjoy eating healthy so I probably will stick to my low-carb, fairly low cal, high protein way of eating even while doing IF. Coupled with exercise (but not particularly needed from what Ive read) IF seems to be yielding great results for many people.

Hopefully some more experienced IFers will chime in too to cover anything Ive missed :)

indiblue 04-30-2011 10:19 PM

lacey IF was brought to my attention with this thread, hopefully it will be of use to you: http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/gene...t-fasting.html. Skinnyelle gave a good summary of its effects: restrict your "feeding" metabolic hormones to only a specific window of time during the day to allow fatburning and other hormones to increase during your "fasting" window. It rests on the premise that the feeding hormones should not be elevated for most of the time, as they are with the standard American diet of 6 small meals throughout the day.

The important thing to remember is that if is not intended to make you lose weight. It's not a magic way to get around eating more or losing weight faster. The calories you intake should remain the same, even for a 24 hour fast. In those you eat one dinner, wait 24 hours, and eat dinner that day, such that you're eating each day. You are only restricting your calories to an even smaller "feeding window" each day. IF does not mean starving yourself or eating only nibbles. It means eating the same nutrients you would normally eat in a smaller period of time.

skinnyelle I don't think it's affected my weight loss directly, for the above reasons. I'm still consuming the calories and nutrients I normally would so I don't think I can attribute any loss directly to IF. It's contributing indirectly by making it easier for me to eat my allotted caloric intake though. If I start eating early in the morning with breakfast I end up having a hard time staying under my cals. Waiting until 3 or 4 PM to have a huge lunch and then a modest dinner has been very helpful in staying at 1200 cals.

Theoretically IF would help me burn a greater percentage of my calories from fat rather than lead muscle tissue or glycogen. I think I've noticed a difference in that regard- some body recomposition stuff taking place. I'm also strength training so ideally this is contributing as well.

Lastly, I admittedly haven't heard of the claim that IFers have more freedom to eat what they want without gaining (McDonalds chicken nuggets, etc). That's true of calorie counters- as long as the chicken nuggets are within the caloric limit you shouldn't expect to gain. Of course it applies to people who are counting and practicing IF, but I don't think it's specific to IF. Further, LeanGains' readers are mostly bodybuilders and people seeking to gain large amounts of muscles and reduce their already low bodyfat, so they wouldn't be eating many carbs and processed foods anyway. As a calorie counter, I do incorporate treat foods (pizza, ice cream) into my diet, they just comprise a very small portion of the calories I'm allowed each day. I don't think it has to do with any unique property of the IF way of eating.

lacey marie 04-30-2011 10:43 PM

Thank you very much skinnyelle39 and indiblue!!!

I literally spent over an hour on the website about IF. I'm intrigued by it, and I think that it would be perfect for me due to my past history of eating (all or nothing). I would very easily be able to pull this off, as soon as I figure out my meals (and the proper amount of calories/carbs/protein/fat). Of course, this isn't a binge/fast, and that everything is spaced out a bit, but I really like the idea of cramming everything into a smaller window of time... something to ponder about doing... Thank you for the idea! I'm really considering it!


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