Jennifer, kudos (and not the chocolate m&m kind) to you for continuing with upper body during this. I think it's terrific that you're modifying it to fit what you can do right now.

I guess I'd say that the tapes have no 'self distruct in 12 weeks' mechanism - they'll be there when you are ready.

Yesterday - I was sinusey all day, so no exercise. I feel great today, and will get in 30 minutes of cardio and hopefully the upper body workout . .

And I'll consider week 3 done! Finally!

Julie

sorry - double post. . .

Hi Julie, hope you feel better soon. :)

I managed to do Long Lean and Upper Body today with no injuries. :encore: I had to modify a few things. I know LL is meant to be alone, but it has less twisting than Power Push, so I had less to modify. Tomorrow I'll try LL again and lower body, but I'm not so sure I'll be able to do much of the weights. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

It's good to be back!

Jennifer - thanks, I did do a cardio workout yesterday - an old Karen Voigt tape - that I hadn't done in years. . . Made about 75% of it through. It was actually fun to try something new!

Today, did PP - I'm finding I'm sweating MORE as I get the moves down better! And for upper body did Kathy's secret of a great body. It was an ebay buy. Several of the same moves on the PY tape, but some different.

Bev - how are you doing?

Julie

I did do lower body today, but I used no weights or light weights for the exercises. I was surprised I felt the burn as much as I did. I modified a few things, but it was mostly the whole workout. This morning I overslept (what's new) so I only had a chance to do LL. Tonight I did lower body, and I did Kathy's 20 minute timesaver workout beforehand to warm up. Last time I did it, I laughed the whole time because I was so bad. Tonight I kept up about 80 percent!

For any chicks lurking out there, if you haven't exercised today, DO IT! It is such a great feeling!

Hi everyone -

Got PP and lower body down today - but it was a little tougher - maybe because TOM is approaching? There were parts in PP where I just concentrated on getting the feet right and had to let the arms flail where they may. It also seemed to be a little about balance. . .Still did it!

Tomorrow is Pilates and Yoga, and hopefully I'll remember more of it this week!

I agree with Jennifer, jump in, it's worth it!

Julie

Hi Jennifer! I'm so sorry that it's taken me so long to find the time to participate in this board! Ack, where does the time go? :o

I hope by now (4/10) that your knee is feeling much better and stronger. I've dealt with knee problems and sprained ankles over the past 3 years during my weight loss/health journey, and I *know* how frustrating it can be to not be able to move like we want to. :mad: I feel your pain, sweetie. Hang in there, take care of yourself and you'll be back in tip top workout shape very soon. The better you take care of your knee, the less time you'll have to spend recovering. :D

How did your go with Long/Lean go? I'm really enjoying it. It's a fun workout and NO kickboxing! Yippie! I was getting a bit tired of KB there. :lol:

Unless other "life" issues pop up this week, I should have time to post up here more often. Yay!! :jig: lol

Connie

Whoops! I should have done my catch-up reading before I replied to your post on 4/1. :o

Big congrats on doing upper body work while your knee is healing! That's terrific! Don't focus on what you can't do right now, focus on patting yourself on your back for doing what you ARE doing despite your injury! Whoohooo!! :cp:

Connie :)

Whoohooo, Jennifer!!
 

:cheer: :bravo:

Thatta girl!! You're doing just what Kathy says to- making this project your own! Way to go!!

Connie :)

I definately agree....
 

Hi Julie,

I think you're onto something here- TOM definately affects my workouts. About a week before AF I'm just about depleted of energy and usually have to modify cardio down a notch or two. However, during that time I am the weight lifting Queen! Weight training seems easy and I lift a little more weight than usual, and it invigorates me. :strong: Weird, eh? Oh well. I think it has something to do with hormone dips- my testorone must be higher than usual during those few days. Whatever the cause, I hope it keeps happening every month because I love it! :love: :lol:

Congrats on doing the workout even though you were a little off balance!! Proud of ya, sweetie!! :bravo:

Connie :)

Catching up with my 3FC buddies....
 

Ack, I can't believe so much time has gone by since I posted here! I hope no one thought I was "lost". No way! :p Life has just been extra full lately and when that happens computer fun time goes bye-bye. lol

I just read over my handwritten journal entries for the past 7 days and wanted to share some thoughts with you. The overwhelming theme of that journal since April 1 is my great enjoyment of my workouts. This second half of Project:You is perfect for me right now. I'm still in love with the circuit workout. I've been able to increase my weight in a few more exercises this past week. Whoohooo! I just love being able to do that! :strong: I wonder how much weight I can lift before really needing a barbell? I think I've got a couple months before that will be an issue, but it's fun to think about it. Geez, is that sick or what? lol

I believe I'm falling in great like (not love- yet) of Pilates. Yesterday I had my best Pilates workout so far. It was really neat. I was really in tune with my body, got my breath right (most of the time) and felt strong. My core is truly benefiting from Pilates. I didn't believe it would happen, but it is! Wow! :cp: I'm starting to think about buying a Pilates DVD to use after I'm done with PY. I want something with lots of certified instruction (no Lesile Sansone or Denise Austin) and moves I can grow with. I almost want the instructor to talk "down" to me, to be overly clear so I "get it". I need all the help I can get. LOL Any recommendations?

For this past Saturday's choice day I picked the Steady Strides 30 minute walk. I haven't gotten a chance to do this workout in about a month. What a difference a month can make!!!! I just about breezed through this very brisk walk and stayed in great form while being in awe of my increased strength and stamina the whole way. Last month when I did this walk I was huffing and puffing through at least 50% of it and, of course, my form suffered a bit because of it. The first time I did this walk I thought I was keel over- it was so intense and fast! I'm overjoyed with my progress. :cheer: Before I started PY I'm not sure that I ever really had these kinds of "discoveries" because I wasn't sticking to a defined and thoughtful workout schedule. What are your thoughts and experiences with this? Do you notice improvements in your strength, stamina, etc whether you're using a defined schedule or not? I'm interested to hear....

I'm very proud to share that with the exception of 4 meals this past week (out of 28 which is only 14%- sometimes I love math! lol), I've eaten very cleanly. Spring does that to me- makes me want to eat very healthy. I've been eating lots of veggies and fruits- an average of 7 servings a day. I'm happy with that, but am always striving for higher averages in this category. :D

Actually the only issue with my eats the past few days has been making sure that I'm eating enough calories each day. Is that crazy or what? Ack! I need to eat at least 1900 calories each day because of my weight and exercise schedule, but somehow I've been ending up around 1600- 1700. So, I'm back to using Fitday. It's such a helpful tool. I'm currently PMSing and I know from past experience that this revs up my hunger, and that's part of the problem right now. I've been focusing on filling myself up with healthy stuff instead of low nutrient foods which is my tendency during this time of the month. It really helps that I do NOT keep that kind of food in the house. It's also very frustrating at times. LOL I'll find my calorie balance again soon, I'm sure. PMS always throws me for a loop. I'm glad that I'm paying attention to what's happening and am doing what I can to keep my body healthy and burning up fat- no matter what time of the month it is. ; ) Ahh, I just love the power I have over my health!! :dancer:

Monday, 4/11, I'll begin week 9 of PY. I'm a little sad that I only have 4 more weeks left. :cry: I'm starting to wonder what workout schedule I'll follow after I'm done with this...? :?: Anyone have any ideas? No rush, just curious. I'm enjoying this Project SO much! And I'm very thankful to have found this thread. Thank you Jennifer to kicking it off! :high: :thanks:

Connie :queen:

Hi chickies!

I lost a few days last week for various reasons - and it definately showed yesterday - not as up to speed as I was last week! I could still finish the tapes, and still felt the upper body workout. Looking forward to getting in as much as I can this week since I'm going to be away from home a good bit of the time.

Glad that you're having such fun, Connie! I keep on learning life lessons from this system, which is a nice side benefit! How did you decide on a calorie budget of 1800?

Julie

Julie, glad to see ya again! Sometimes life creeps us on us and we have no choice but to cut our workouts short or out all together. It's not about what you DON'T do, it's about what are DOING. Live in the now (remember Wayne's World?) and do your best each day. :) You'll get your upper body strength and endurance back quicker than you figure- I just bet.

How did I decide on 1800 calories? Wow, that answer would be very long. LOL So, I'll give you the short version. Have you had any experience with Fitday.com? It's a free online diet and exercise tracker. You input everything you eat and it calculates the calories for you. In another section you can input your exercise/activities for the day and it tells you how many calories you've burned. Also in that section it tells you how many calories you need each day just to maintain your basic needs- keep your heart pumping, digestion churning- all the basics. This is the bare minimal of calories you need each day to prevent your body from going into starvation mode. (You input your weight, age, and height when you first register and you can update that info whenever you want to.) It also tells you how many calories you need to consume each day to MAINTAIN your current weight. I've used those numbers as a guideline- it's not a truly perfect system but it's a very good ballpark range. Right now my basal calories is 1730- remember, that's with no movement or activity at all- just starvation prevention. My maintenance calories is somewhere around 2400. So, 1800 is the low mid-line for me between basal calories and maintain calories. That's on days when I don't exercise or just do a light workout. If I do normal-for-me workouts I need to eat at least 2000 calories. I feel best and perform best when I consume about this each day.

How's that for the short version? LMBO!

Soo, my problem has been eating about 2000 calories while following the PY Fat Burning plan. I'm working on it...I actually did quite well today. I added in 2 snacks. Duh! Sometimes the answers are so clear that I completely miss it. lol

Hope that answered your question. If you're curious about your calorie range, check out fitday.com. It's free and really easy to use. I'll be glad to help you however I can with it. :)

Take care,
Connie

Hi Connie!

Yes, I know fitday. And a friend pointed me over to the selfdietcom, which if your a subscriber will do all that stuff and has an online diary with calorie counts. I've checked several BMR sites, and it seems at my current weight (about 190) - my BMR is about 1600, and with exercise it goes up to about 2400 too - so I've been trying to keep around 1800/day, although sometimes I'm as low as 1600 (and sometimes as low as 1300 if I'm not hungry). I think it's fascinating that we need to eat to lose - totally counter-intuitive to what we've been told for the past 20 years. . .

Last night I did a KS tape - timesaver cardio to lose weight - OMG - talk about tricky choreography!!!! That'll take me several run throughs to learn. But I'm finding I'm liking shifting some of the workouts around, as long as I get some cardio in 4-5 days a week.

Hugs,
Julie

Hi everyone,

well I am still around doing kathy smith just have not posted much. For some reason my weight seems to be up and down. I just wish it would stay down. My diet has been up and down. It would make it alot easier if I didn't like junk food like chocolate. If you are looking for your calorie count there is also a good book called dieting for dummies that explains the whole process or formula for the number.

bev

Hi Bev,

That kind of stuff can be really tough - the one thing that does seem to help me is to count out a portion size - I do this with things like nuts - and to PUT the bag away. And after I finish it, I do something else to distract myself. You've lost 9 pounds! That's terrific!

Hugs,
Julie

Good morning everyone,

well this morning i did power push and lower body plus abs. THe lower body workout is one I have to force myself to do. I don't mind the standing work but once you get on the ground I hate floor work. But my motivation is bathing suits. I started shopping and when I saw the back on my thighs ( and all the cellulite) I was determined to finish the workout this morning.

Bev

Hi everybody, I didn't mean to be absent for so long! We're writing a book, and the deadline is approaching, so we're scurrying around like crazy trying to get it finished.

My knee is all healed, and so is my ankle - did I mention that I tripped over my feet doing the grapevine? And my latest injury was pulling my calf muscle. OW, that one hurt. I might have torn it a bit, because it has been really difficult to do much of anything but walk. There is so much jogging and high knees in LL so I've not been able to give it my all. My left leg will go up, but only slowly. If I put fast pressure on my right leg, it is painful. To compensate, I'm doing another cardio session back to back. It's not the workout that caused the injury, it's my two left feet with clunky shoes and new carpet. I've pulled out my older reeboks which seem lighter and not as bulky, so I'm hoping there will be no more injuries!

I'm on the recovery week. According to the scales, I've only lost a pound in the past month. I had actually lost 4, but it keeps fluctuating. I read on BB that quite a few other people were having the same problem. From reading posts from people that were deeper into the program, I expect to see more of a drop in the later half of the program. I definitely have lost some inches though, particularly in my legs. I've not measured yet. I plan on doing that at the end of week 6.

Julie - I've been doing the Timesaver workout this week as one of my supplements. I can finally keep up, but WOW it took a long time to be able to figure it out. I screamed laughing the first time I tried to do it. I was entire sets behind them. I eventually memorized the steps and can remember what comes next, so I can do about 95 percent of the first half. I usually only do the first 20 minutes after doing LL.

HI all, I'm thinking about doing PROJECT:You, but would like to see if everyone is losing on this plan, and if you feel like it is worth the money you spent. Thanks.

Hi Macy, I have not been a good loser! However, I've lost a few inches, and that is what counts. I have a reeeeealy slow metabolism, PCOS, etc, so I don't get great results with anything, except perseverance! There are a lot of different workouts, and it is worth the money for that. Also, if you are out of shape, it is very good to get back into the swing of things. The cardio starts light (one reason I think I had a slow loss for the first half) and increases as the program goes.

If you want an idea of how it is going for me, click my journal link at the bottom of my post. Even though I've been a slow loser, the program is a huge help to get me back into strength training and I've learned loads about form that I can't get from a book.

Thanks Jennifer for the info. I appreciate all you sisters and your site.

Hi,
Im new to this board. I read Jennifer's Journal about PY. It sounded like great program. Im curious about what Rotation look like in 12 weeks? I expect to get them in about a week. I hope to start next week with PY. Im seems to be out of shape since my couple of months absent from working out. I just bought a TransFirmer from the FIrm recently and tried them. It is really hard. I still love the firm. I had them for two year but since my absent from working out I thought I probably start PY to get me into fitness over again then I will go back to the Firm.

Christy :D

The first 5 weeks are :

cardio/upper
cardio/lower
pilates/yoga
cardio/upper
cardio/lower
choice: cardio or walking cd
rest

Then you have a recovery week which alternates cardio and pilates/yoga.

Part 2 is alternating full body circuit (weights and cardio) with cardio and pilates/yoga.

You'll exercise 6 days a week, and you'll do weights basically every other day. The good thing about PY is that if you are too advanced or not advanced enough, you can modify it to work for you. I moved up to the third (last) cardio before it was time, partly because of an injury that I thought the kickboxing in part two was aggravating, and partly because I wasn't getting all the cardio I thought I needed with a sluggish metabolism.

Jennifer, Thank you for post the rotation. I can see I have to do PY 6 days a week. I dont do workout on weekend. I can do walking or activities with my family on weekend.

IM sorry to hear that you went through couple of injuries by some workout. Hope that you keep them up and not cheating over again as I read your journal. I know you can do it.

Christy :)

Uh, cheating? :lol: I think you might have read my journal wrong, because I didn't cheat, I doubled up on workouts that were a lower intensity so I could let the injury heal. Basically instead of 40 minutes at level 7, I did 60-80 at level 5.

I did delay a few days in the process, so maybe that is what you're referring to. :) But either way, I'm feeling a lot better now. I changed shoes to something less clunky and that made a huge difference!

One of those workout days is a choice day, and the Steady Strides walking CD is one of the choices. Your own walking workout would probably be just fine. I think as long as you got the heart rate up and burned :flame: some calories, it's a good replacement. Enjoy it!

Jennifer,
Oops, I didnt mean to say cheating. but I know you has been very busy writing a book and your workout was delay. I apogolized for that :o . Im glad that you keep up doing with PY and got a good result. Im happy to hear that PY can give a better result. The only thing I want is best result that all. I afraid that other workout may be not give me best result. Just the Firm always give me best result and I like to try PY to see if it will help!

Keep healthy activity and have a great weekend!

Christy :)

Oh, I forgot to add that, I finally got my PY kit last night. I was surprise to see that so fast. I ordered it on monday and got it last night. I didnt realize it was shipped from Torrance's warehouse. Torrance is just 15 minutes drive from where I live. The products look great and Im looking forward to try them out on Monday.

Christy

That was fast! I didn't get mine for at least two weeks. Have fun with it!

Hi Jennifer! I'm so glad I decided to check this thread out today! I've been missing the PY support and discussion here.

Wow, congrats on writing a book! That's awesome! Good luck!

I'm really glad to hear that your knee and ankle are healed. I know how frustrating it is to miss workouts because of an injury- I've had 4 sprained ankles since I started working out 4 years ago. LOL

I'm in the same slow-to-lose-pounds boat as you are. I've been consistently sticking to the PY workout schedule and Fat Burning plan, but I've only lost about 4 pounds. I've had a couple fluctulations thrown into the mix, too. BUT I am losing inches. I took my measurments around the halfway mark and I had lost 6 inches. I'm very happy with that!!

I'm on Day 2 of Week 12. I'm looking very forward to taking my measurements at the end of the week.

Even though I haven't lost as many pounds as I had hoped I would, I think PY is an EXCELLENT program. I've benefitted from it in so many ways.

Hope everyone is doing well. I'm glad to be "back", and I'll be checking the board often now.

Connie :)

Hi Christy! Have you gotten started with PY yet? If so, how do you like it?

I used to do The Firm workouts, too. I started having lots of knee troubles though, so I had to shelve them. Sometimes I still miss them a little, but I've been enjoying PY's Full Body Circuit workout. Before PY came out, I had discovered Cathe Friedrich's workouts. They are kind of similar to The Firm, but have a gentler tone. Don't get me wrong her workouts are killers, though. FitTV shows her workouts a couple times a day, and I've been taping them to use for my post PY workouts. I'm excited about moving on, but I will miss PY.

So, welcome to PY and 3FC!

Good luck,
Connie

Hi Connie, I was thinking about you earlier. Good to see you back. :D So you think Cathe is gentler than The Firm? I've never seen The Firm but from the clips I've seen of Cathe, she looks brutal, lol. I love to watch her, though. Does she have steps in all of her workouts? The ones I've seen all have them. I'm not sure about using a step with my knees.

What workout are you going to after PY? Have you used any other Beachbody programs?

Aww, thank you Jennifer! It feels good to be thought of. ;)

I've been thinking what I wrote about Cathe being gentler than the Firm all evening. LOL I'm not sure that was the right word. I don't know how to compare the two workout styles, they certainly are similar in alot of ways. Cathe's workouts ARE brutal, but somehow Cathe makes it enjoyable at best and tolerable at worst- to me anyway. I really like how much instruction Cathe gives in all her workouts, that's something I think the Firm could do better. Also, I feel like Cathe presents her workouts in a safe way and is very careful to show you the correct form and explain the moves.

I don't know...I guess I just like Cathe and her workouts more than The Firm and their instructors. I think The Firm went downhill after Goodtimes took over.

All of this, of course, is my humble opinion. ;)

Cathe's workouts don't all use a step. Some of her non-cardio workouts use the step or a high step (like the Firm fannylifter or Cathe has one of her "own"). There are workouts that don't use the step at all. I think she has 2 kickboxing ones that don't use a step. There are also some weight lifting workouts that don't use it. Cathe does tend to use a wide variety of equipment, but most of the time she has someone doing the move without the equipment for people who don't happen to have it- like a stability ball. She has a great website- cathe.com. There is lots of details about all of her workouts, and you can even preview them. Very cool!

Oh oh oh, Walmart has a Cathe Step for about $25! I found it right after I bought a step at a thrift store for $5. LOL

I'm going to start putting together a workout routine for post PY. I'm not sure what I want to do exactly. I don't have any other Beachbody programs, or any other programs. I've got lots of Cathe workouts from FitTV, and I want to include some of those somehow. I copied a workout routine from Muscle and Fitness Hers a couple months ago, I just might do that- if there's a weight loss "track". I plan on writing a post asking for ideas about this very thing sometime soon. I'm really interested to hear other people's opinions about it.

Take care,
Connie :)

I've been reading the PY posts here and at Beachbody. I've never posted before, but I just received my PY package, and am planning on starting on Monday, which will give me all weekend to pig out and read my materials. :) I am a little concerned, however, because people on both sites seem to be having difficulty actually losing pounds. While it's great to lose inches, I need to lose a lot of pounds! I don't want to be a firm and fit 200 lbs! Am I reading things wrong? If I am diligent, will I lose weight?

In my opinion, yes, you will lose weight with persistence. Now first I want to clarify two things. First, I eyeball my portion sizes, and until recently, I've been eating in a LOT of restaurants due to certain circumstances in my life. I normally take home half, and eat the lightest thing on the menu, but I still have no clue what all is hiding in there.
Second, I have PCOS and generally we're blessed with slow metabolisms, or other insulin issues that makes weight loss slow. I have to eat less and exercise more than the average Joe.

Ok, back to subject - I am assuming this is similar to BFL with the weight loss. There are a remarkable amount of women that did not lose much/if anythng in the first 8 weeks of that program. In BFL for women, they even discuss that issue. Something magical about week 8 of BFL where women lose weight. I'm banking on that one to work for me. ;) If you consistently weight train and build your lean muscle, you WILL lose weight. Muscle requires much more calories than fat does. So by increasing your muscle mass, your body will burn more calories automatically, which means more weight loss. If I were you, I'd count calories. I'm doing that much more strictly starting this past week, and I feel sure it will pay off. The plan in the PY book is pretty livable, but you don't have to do that particular one. If you do another plan, just make sure you are getting a good amount of protein due to the weight training.

Thanks for the response! :) I am planning on the trying the plan that came in the package. If that doesn't seem to be working, I was thinking about doing weight watchers again, and make sure I eat my "activity points". Hopefully the calorie counting will work for you. I'll keep my eyes on your journal, and my fingers crossed for you.

Congrats, KAS24! I'm excited for you....
 

Hello KAS24, and congrats on your commitment to do Project:YOU!

I read Jennifer's response, and I agree with everything she said. :cp:

I'd like to add that if you're fairly new to exercise- or just strength training- you're more likely to lose pounds AND inches with this project, in my opinion. When I first started this journey of health, I lost weight at a good steady rate of 1-2 pounds each week. I've been exercising regularly for about 4 years when I started this project, and had already lost about 80 pounds. I feel like my metabolism has slowed down some because of my loss, and since I just entered my 30s. :snail: This has been an absolutely fantastic project for me in so many ways, and I don't fault it at all for not "causing" a big pound loss for me. Here are just a few of positive things that this project has done for me:

1. Establish consistentcy with weight training and yoga which has quite visabily slimmed my body down and toned it up at the same time. :barbell:

2. Introduced me to Pilates and proved to me that it works and I CAN do it. My core is definately stronger and flatter, thanks to Pilates. :cool:

3. Cleaned up my eating habits which has balanced my hormones. My face doesn't break out during PMS anymore, my cycles have become regular, and my cramps are much less intense in pain and duration. :woo:

4. Showed me that *I* have control and power over my health and that I working in my own range really is best. I've learned not to compete with myself or anyone else during a workout. Every day and every person is different. Each day I do my best for that day. It's empowering and freeing! :cheer:

5. The journal format is awesome! It keeps me honest and makes me really think about what I'm eating and why. It's a powerful tool, use it! :write:

Those are just the highlights... :D I hope this inspires and reassures you. I truly believe that this project DOES yield positive results if you're consistent. You can do it! We'll be here to cheer you on and answer your questions along the way. :goodluck:

Connie :wave:

I have a question - on the Beachbody site Kathy Smith's Project:You! is showing $14.95 +s/h but then at the bottom it states that after 30 days you will receive shipments every other month for $19.95. It is only showing Foundation, Lower Body/Abs and Pilates Core workouts. The Fast Track 2 week slim down is listed as a bonus. Also inlcudes Nutrition Guide & Journal, Food Plan, & Calendar. Now, from the reviews and posts I've been reading this is not the whole packet. Am I just really confused or am I missing something? I've never seen anyone mention the additional shipments later on. I guess what I'm asking is what was included in everyone's packages and what was the cost? Thanks!

Wow, they've changed it! I bought it outright for .... $70? I noticed that Power 90 was that way. I don't see how they can do it unless they change the whole lineup on the dvd's. My dvd's have all cardio on one, all weights on another, and pilates/yoga on a third dvd. But you alternate lower body and upperbody weights, so I don't see how they can divide it evenly.

I did some research and chatted with a BeachBody advisor - apparently the new offer is :$14.95 + s/h and you receive the 1st 3 workouts - did not specify which those are. Then you receive the additional workouts approx every other month at a price of $19.99 + s/h. Nothing was mentioned about the Steady Strides CD. So, it appears you get the basic guide, nutritional guide & journal, the calendar, The foundation workout, lower body workout and the pilates in the 1st shipment then you have to wait 60 days before you receive any other materials. He would not state how many additional shipments there are. From what I've read in reviews and forums the foundation workout isn't going to get you very far. I'm very disappointed they've changed to this selling format. He did say he could take my order for the entire package during the chat but I was not comfortable with that. Maybe if you call the order line you can still get the whole package at once.

I would not order if you get it like that. What are they thinking?? Foundation only lasts one week, and you need the Upper Body workout on Day 2! I had considered getting P90 to try out/review after Kathy Smith, but they only sold it that way so I didn't get it.

I wonder if they have a problem with people copying the dvd's and returning them - or watching in advance and deciding the program isn't for them? This way, if you hope the 'next one' is better, you won't return the one you have. Plus they rack up extra bucks on shipping and handling. Hmm.

If this is the only way they will sell it, I'd watch ebay, and meanwhile buy her Peak Fat burning cardio dvd and Lift Weights to Lose Weight from Amazon. Pretty similar cardio workout by intensity, and I've heard the strength training is similar, but I haven't seen it myself.