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KittyKatFan 04-30-2012 10:31 PM

Weights and ab exercises
 
What is the proper way to lift? Should I be doing two sets of 8-12 reps at a challenging but doable weight, or a weight that is extremely challenging but with only one set of 5 to 8 reps? When do I move to a higher weight?

Right now, I start at a tough weight and do two sets of 8 reps, then every week I add an extra rep to each set until I get up to 2 sets of 12 reps. Then I add 5 lbs and start back at 2 sets of 8 reps. But if I'm doing it wrong let me know.

Next, with abs, I am moving away from crunches and doing planks instead. Man, they are tough! As I get stronger, should my aim be to hold the plank position for longer periods of time, or should I do more reps for the same length of time? I have been keeping one plank but moving from 10 seconds to 30. But maybe I should be doing 3 reps of 10 seconds, then increase the number of reps?

Thanks.

Julesbond007 04-30-2012 11:07 PM

My Trainer said crunches cause disk problems, and planks can cause longterm lower back problems. Most people do them incorrectly, their backs are arched and their core is not engaged e.t.c. Good luck and be careful :)

KittyKatFan 05-01-2012 10:08 PM

So what do you do for ab exercises if the two biggies, crunches and abs, are dangerous?

ValRock 05-01-2012 10:21 PM

There is honestly no need to do targeted ab exercises if you're engaging your core when you lift, like you should. I RARELY do them, and I have abs for the first time in my life.

lm3898 05-02-2012 12:25 PM

I go to kickboxing workout classes and the last 10 min. are always a combo of sit ups and planks - the biggest/best plank moves are holding for 30 sec, then a leg tap to the right for 15 sec [back and forth], then the left.

The other is a "clock" - you start in plank, then move your arms from 12 to 3 o'clock, hold, then back. Don't move your legs. Otherwise, instructors always have us do bicycles. Just a few suggestions.

I would also suggest doing superman's to work the lower back - you should always work both - you can google a video on them to make sure you are doing those correctly.

beautifulone 06-29-2012 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ValRock (Post 4316707)
There is honestly no need to do targeted ab exercises if you're engaging your core when you lift, like you should. I RARELY do them, and I have abs for the first time in my life.

How do you engage the core when lifting?

ValRock 06-29-2012 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by beautifulone (Post 4388838)
How do you engage the core when lifting?

Barbell Squats, Deadlifts, Military presses... pretty much any freeweight lift you do is going to engage your core.

DietVet 06-30-2012 02:12 AM

But planks are great for your core. Do them. Work on increasing the length of time you can hold them. Start with 30 seconds and work up to 120 seconds.

ValRock 06-30-2012 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DietVet (Post 4388894)
But planks are great for your core. Do them. Work on increasing the length of time you can hold them. Start with 30 seconds and work up to 120 seconds.

Yes, Planks are awesome!!! There's just no need to do 800000 crunches or situps. Those are really horrible for your spine, anyhow :).

seagirl 06-30-2012 07:06 AM

You can also do plank push ups where you go from plank, lower one forearm to the ground, then the other, then one arm back up straight then the other. About 5 or so usually do me in. And side plank is good too. Works on core and balance.

Exhale15 06-30-2012 08:09 AM

Give Pilates a try. There classes, there dvds. Pilates is tough and it builds your core and increases general strength and stamina as well.:carrot:

beautifulone 06-30-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Julesbond007 (Post 4315053)
My Trainer said crunches cause disk problems, and planks can cause longterm lower back problems. Most people do them incorrectly, their backs are arched and their core is not engaged e.t.c. Good luck and be careful :)

Do you mean to say planks are okay as long as the form is correct?
What do you mean by "engage"?

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Originally Posted by ValRock (Post 4388855)
Barbell Squats, Deadlifts, Military presses... pretty much any freeweight lift you do is going to engage your core.

Do certain exercises (like the ones you mentioned) naturally engage the core, or are we supposed to somehow contract our core while doing strength exercises?

Thank you ladies!

DietVet 06-30-2012 12:24 PM

[QUOTE=beautifulone;4389169]Do you mean to say planks are okay as long as the form is correct?
What do you mean by "engage"? /[QUOTE]

Planks are EXCELLENT so long as the form is correct. (This is true of all weight lifting exercises--good form is important.) Just keep your back flat and your core engaged and you'll be fine.

Engaged means 'in use'. Sometimes you have to mentally focus on the muscles you're trying to work to make sure that other, less ideal, muscles aren't jumping in to take over. In a plank, you want most of the work to be coming from all the muscles in your abdomen and lower back.


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