coffee...............!!!!

Whole grain pasta loaded with veggies and lean protien the night before or if I'm doing a late morning run and have time for breakfast oatmeal with fruit milk nuts and a pinch of brown sugar.

Pasta is pretty key for me though, especially for long runs. I have a couple go to dishes that are good volume and around 450 cals.

so my knee is really sore. but only after I have started running and pretty much stops as soon as i do unless I was on it for a while and it lingers just a bit. I have been icing and taking it easy since friday but I skipped my long run this weekend. I don't want to be wasting time. I have the disney mary in Jan. What to do MK???????

I have bootcamp class tonight and want to do a light jog (5or6) tomorrow.

cake-- i would NOT do bootcamp, thats for sure! Very high impact exercises, prob.
I really dont know a whole lot about knee pain.... but i can PROMISE you that if you truly take a week or two OFF, COMPLETELY TOTALLY OFF (*light* jogging does not count as off) including bootcamp and anything else stressfull, that you will NOT LOSE any of your fitness. I know that now is not an ideal time to be needing to skip long runs, especially. Is it IT band? Have you tried foam rolling? Many peopl swear by this, but its not necessarily appropriate for all types of pain.

When it comes down to it, you could always take something, eh hem, STRONGER to get through your long runs. I will get in trouble for saying that, because medication only masks the pain, and doesnt solve the problem (and can make it worse, because you dont FEEL like i hurts, ya know?) Percocets and vicodan work well. And im not joking.
Cake, i know what it feels like to train SO HARD for such a seemingly unachievable goal. At this point, whats going through your mind is what you need to do to cross the finish line. I get that. Two of my marathons i was suffering stress fractures, one in my 2nd metatarsal, and the other near the top of my foot. Percocet got me across the finish line.
And my injuries have never fully healed.

Seriously, it MIGHT just be screaming from the overuse, and ramp up in mileage. TAKE ONE WEEK OFF-- NO RUNNING, NO JUMPING, no STRENGTH Training. Maybe yoga? ;) Seriously you Wont lose your fitness.


Jamsk8r-- to Boston qualify i need to run a certified marathon in UNDER 3 hours and 40 minuts. Thats it... maintain a pace of approx 8:20 per mile or faster, for 26.2 miles, and i am in. :) Easier said than done. But i know i can, i just have to train for it.

Unfortunately, i am DONE running, even recreationally, for an undetermined amount of time. I dont want to hate running. It brings me joy, and currently, it is joyless. Of course, the fact that i am about 4 % body fat ABOVE my ideal, racing BF range might be playing a part in not enjoying running

cake - I'll second mk. Take a week off from running, jogging, boot camp, etc. Do some yoga. The fact that it gets worse during running sends off all kinds of warning bells to me. You will not loose your fitness in a week. You will be out of commission for the Disney marathon if you blow out your knee.

I have kept up on running recently but yesterday near the end of my long run I started feeling really light-headed very quickly... so much that I had to get off the treadmill and sit for awhile. I have no idea what exactly happened, I ate a healthy breakfast and was drinking plenty of water. Any ideas?

how long was your *long* run? what did you have for breakfast? How long before running did you eat it? etc etc.....

more than likely it was nothing, caused by nothing, if that makes sense?

Nice 16km trail run for me this morning. 6x stream crossings and 5x feet wetting!! Wore my 'trail' shoes which ironically are worse than road shoes for going through water since they are more waterproof, so trap the water in the shoe instead of letting it all squelsh out.

About to board a plane for UK in 10 min, so i needed a run round this morning before being subjected to 24hrs sitting!

Cake - i know all about ITB trouble, if that's what you think you've got (does it hurt on outside of knee, especially going downhill?). I've had to pay special attention to mine for about 2 years now. Yup, take the 'rest-pill' as prescribed by everyone else.

hey everyone! Thanks so much for the detailed answer MK. You gals are right. Against you all's orders I did bootcamp last night, however i have a disclaimer....I just read this. I actually instruct Bootcamp and Zumba so I will cancel Zumba ( I am the only one who teaches it) and have my stand-in for bootcamp.

Ange82 - it hurts on the "inner knee" and definitely when i go down hill. It hasn't bothered me in a few days tho I guess cause I have been resting.

hh- so tru. I am definitely taking you all's advice. I am going to hot yoga tonight.

tots- samd questions as MK, length? How long after eating did you run? etc

Krampus -- favorite pre-run meal -- 1 tbsp peanut or almond butter + 1/2 cup cottage cheese + 1/2 banana sliced + 10g Fiber One cereal. Mix up and devour! Probably at least an hour before running.

If I don't have a lot of time -- a yogurt and/or banana.

MK, sorry to hear that you're burned on running right now. I totally get that. Haven't been there with running, but with other things, yeah. I've had better luck keeping the fun in my hobbies and fitness/sports pursuits if I will give them a season of their own, and not try to do them year round, at least not intensely. "Absence makes the heart grow fonder," and all that. Hope you find something fun to do while doing your lean-out and hiatus from running.

One month ago, I went for my very first run. I tried W1D1 of the C25K program and thought I was seriously going to die. I couldn't even run for 30 seconds and I only made it through the first 1/2 of the workout. My lungs burned. My legs felt like rubber. I remember thinking 'Why am I doing this to myself?" I'm determined, though, and I'm proud to report that I've stuck with it (I scrapped C25K and started doing my own thing). I can see so many fantastic improvements in my endurance and fitness. I'm no longer gasping for air and I can run for a much greater distance...almost made the entire 1/4 mile track last night without having to stop and rest my legs. The mental demons are still there, but I am learning how to silence their whiny "You can't do this" voices. I have to say I'm proud of my accomplishments.

Great job still, it just keeps getting better.

Easy 3 miler tomorrow morning then resting for Sundays half. I'm getting pretty excited. I'm actually most nervous that I'm going to really want to do a full, but I'm terrified at the amount of work involved with that...we'll see...I just keep think you only live once and I lost 125 lbs so I can do anything!:)

Ncuneo, I think it's awesome that you are doing a HM and that you want to run a full! It takes so much inner strength and courage to even TRY to do one. Just showing up at the starting line makes you a winner in my book. Please post and let us know how you did on Sunday.

Loving running in colder weather... I seem to be able to go further & faster more comfortably when I am not fighting the heat! I do need to get some more layers though, brrrr!