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cat90 02-06-2005 03:43 PM

AbLounger
 
Has anyone got any positive/negative comments on the AbLounger? I watched the infomercial for the umpteenth time this morning and thought it looked to easy to be true :dunno: Anyway, they are selling them in Zellers for almost a third less than the "order price" :) and I don't know whether to purchase one or not :shrug: I have lower back problems so I don't know if this would hinder me from using one :nono: I would appreciate any input ;)

Suzanne 3FC 02-06-2005 04:52 PM

Previous studies have shown that various ab-gadgets are no more effective than crunches, and some are less effective than crunches. I haven't tried the ablounger, but it looks very gimmicky. Maybe one of our fitness experts will have an opinion on it. I would recommend a balance ball, though. ACE Fitness (American Council on Exercise) did a report on ab gadgets a couple of years ago, and they showed what worked and what didn't work. In a nutshell, none of the infomercial type products worked. They suggested crunches on a balance ball (10 bucks at Walmart), and gave some tips for traditional crunches. http://www.acefitness.org/getfit/abstudy_top.cfm Consumer Reports did a follow up on this and also suggested the balance ball. The ball may support your lower back better.

Keep in mind that the people in the commercials are actually fitness models that make a living promoting these products. They work out in gyms, may have professional trainers, and don't represent the average consumer. It's very easy to make a product look attractive.

Based on general comments I've heard from others: The ablounger might encourage you to use it at first, and appeal to the person that does not exercise regularly. However you would probably grow out of it pretty quickly. I've yet to hear from someone that has had noticeable results from it.

cat90 02-07-2005 08:30 PM

:thanks: Suzanne :) I've already got a balance ball so I don't even need to spend any money :lol: The people on the commercial that I've been watching are definitely NOT fitness models :rofl: in fact they look like they have a little ways to go :lol: not sure if thats a plus or a minus on the marketing scale :dunno: but it did start off with a couple of hard bodies making the usual its "wonderful" and "marvellous" statements before they went to get comments from the average joe. I'll hold off for now and wait until they're on sale ;)

MrsJim 02-08-2005 11:25 AM

Rather than an "Ab Lounger" if you MUST buy something that 'targets the abs' I'd suggest a good Pilates video. I've seen the Winsor Pilates basic set of DVDs selling at $10.00 plus S&H in the magazines.

Pilates will DEFINITELY work those abs - just keep in mind that working your abs alone isn't going to give you a six-pack or even 'visible abs' - that takes DIET to lose the fat that's covering them - and to get that fitness model sixpack you would have to get down to what for most of us would be a ridiculously low and unmaintainable bodyfat percentage (in fact those fitness models you see in magazines and TV are usually given a 12 week window to get down to an ultralow bodyfat % before filming...

cat90 02-08-2005 02:30 PM

Got Winsor Pilates tapes too :rofl: I guess I just need to start using them again :lol: I find that if I buy a new gadget it jumpstarts me into exercising again :rolleyes: for a while anyway :devil: if I do get the AbLounger and its useless I suppose I could always lie in the sun on the deck on it ;) :rofl: :lol3:

Suzanne 3FC 02-09-2005 07:34 PM

:lol: Cathy, I've been there and done that! I've built up quite a little fitness gadget graveyard over the years :p Live and learn. I'm still waiting for someone to invent the "Fitness Desk Chair" so I can crunch and scrunch and press and lift while I work!

MrsJim 02-10-2005 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Suzanne 3FC:
:lol: Cathy, I've been there and done that! I've built up quite a little fitness gadget graveyard over the years :p Live and learn. I'm still waiting for someone to invent the "Fitness Desk Chair" so I can crunch and scrunch and press and lift while I work!

I suppose the "Fitness Desk Chair" would be a companion to George Costanza's desk he got Jerry's carpenter to make for him so he could grab a snooze during working hours. :lol:

Star 02-10-2005 03:52 PM

What's that saying? If it looks too good to be true, it probably is.

Katpo 02-10-2005 04:18 PM

Jumping in with my two cents' worth -- hope you guys don't mind!

I read where there was a recall on certain models of these, so some local places might be selling the "recall models" at a lower price. If you really want to buy one, look for the Ab Lounge 2.

MrsJim 02-10-2005 07:30 PM

You might want to check out the reviews on the AbLounger at Eopinions...

http://www.epinions.com/Ab_Lounger

(there are two reviews thus far - one from a personal trainer who warned against the dangers of hyperextension with this - also advised that the maximum weight limit for this glorified lounge chair is 275 lbs - something to keep in mind).

It's still a VERY new item - but what I would do is keep an eye on eBay in the next few months. Seeing a plethora of 'lightly used' Ab Loungers will be a sure sign that this is yet another gimmicky, cheap exercise infomercial product.

cat90 02-10-2005 07:32 PM

LOL @ Suzanne :rofl:

Thanks for your input Ladies :cp: I WON'T BE GETTING ONE :lol:

Debbie 02-15-2005 08:54 AM

Hey, I'm a old chick who remembers a product just like the ablounger in the late 6o's and early 70's. The only difference it didn't have the place for your feet or hands. It wasn't effective then either.

SouthernMolasses 02-15-2005 11:53 PM

Southern Molasses
 
I have spent the last hour looking for reviews on the Ab Lounger; like you I have questions. I am not sure if this is appropriate for this website, but I finally found some customer reviews under the item for sale in the Target website. I searched through eopinions, googled galore, and this is the only reviews I found, most being positive...amazingly enough. Anyway, wanted to pass that on to people who wanted to read more about it, it can be purchased numerous places, I am not recommending Target.

MrsJim 02-16-2005 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by SouthernMolasses:
I have spent the last hour looking for reviews on the Ab Lounger; like you I have questions. I am not sure if this is appropriate for this website, but I finally found some customer reviews under the item for sale in the Target website. I searched through eopinions, googled galore, and this is the only reviews I found, most being positive...amazingly enough. Anyway, wanted to pass that on to people who wanted to read more about it, it can be purchased numerous places, I am not recommending Target.

As always...for exercise equipment, I would recommend 'try before you buy' if at ALL possible. At least if Target (or any other 'real' store) carries it, you can have the opportunity to see/touch/feel/try it out in person.

I realize most of these infomercials/commercials offer a 30 day money back guarantee...but often it's such a PITA to get the thing back in its original box, weigh it, pay postage and ship, that many people don't even bother. At least if you buy it at a local store, you have the option of just taking it back and getting a refund right away :)

Suzanne 3FC 02-23-2005 10:28 PM

I saw this on QVC last night. I've not seen the regular infomercial, so I don't know how they made it compare in it. What I saw, though, made me think the ab lounger could not possibly work for anything other than increasing flexibility. They had one of their models on the floor doing traditional crunches, and then their fitness guru was on the ablounger behind her. The model on the floor was doing the crunches and you could see the abs from top to bottom being tightened, they were getting a lot of movement which MUST work. It was just the opposite with the woman on the ablounger. Her abs were not moving at all, the only range of motion was coming from her hips, as they worked like the hinge in the ablounge. I think this is one of the complaints when consumer organizations review ad machines - sometimes they really target areas other than the abs (like your wallets)

sandyjl 02-25-2005 10:43 PM

This same product came out in the 60's and was called the "Slim Jim." Of course, I had to have one. I used it a couple of months (without any results) and then sold it in a garage sale for a fraction of what I paid for it. I saw the Ab Lounger in Walmart tonight for $96. IMHO, I think crunches on the ball (or floor) will produce the same results.

Mini-Me 03-03-2005 10:21 AM

My sister bought an Ab Lounge. It 'does' work the abs, but it's HUGE, and it ONLY works the abs. That's a lot of money, imo, when you're better off getting a Stability ball, like Suzanne, and others, wisely advised.

StarAngel2528 03-03-2005 03:31 PM

My friend bought an Abloung and she lost 60 lbs. doing it 20 minute, 4 days a week. I'm on my way to wal-mart in a minute to buy one for myself. My stomach is the main place I need to loss weight. I'll let ya know how it goes.

StarAngel2528 03-04-2005 02:36 PM

My first day one the AbLounger... I wasn't on there even 30 seconds and I could feel it working. This morning I got on it for 3 minutes and my abs are sore. It takes a lot of strain off my neck and back... I'll let ya if I can see a difference in a couple weeks :-)

d2andb1 03-04-2005 02:41 PM

I tried the Ab Lounge when I saw it at Walmart. I have Core Secrets with Gunnar Peterson, and I feel my abs are more engaged working out on a stability ball. I also saw the Bun and Thigh Roller advertised on television, but it has been designed from the stability ball. I would rather spend the $10 for the ball than $100 for the Ab Lounge, but that is just me.

StarAngel2528 03-04-2005 02:48 PM

I feel like I can go longer with the AbLounger and get more crunches in. I could only do about 20 crunches at a time before cause it would strain my neck so bad and I'd start getting headaches. Lossing my stomach is definatly worth $100 to me.

MrsJim 03-04-2005 04:15 PM

Two points I think are necessary to make at this juncture:

1. Spot reduction is a myth (short of having liposuction). When your body burns fat, it takes it from whatever area of the body it wants to - you can't force it to take the belly fat or thigh fat or whatever.

2. If your friend did lose 60 lbs I'm sure she was doing more than just 20 minutes/4x week of crunches. Most of the infomercials making these claims for these types of exercise gadgets usually say on the bottom of the screen in tiny print: "when following the recommended diet and exercise program - results not typical".

Here's a portion of an article from Krista Scott Dixon's website that pretty much sums it up (check the link for the rest of the article which is well worth reading):

Originally Posted by :
Seems like the abs are the big focus for infomercial fitness products these days. The latest one I saw was a little gizmo that you strapped on to your tummy. It would vibrate your abs so that they turned into a rippling granite mountain range. Perhaps, dear readers, you have stronger intestinal resistance than I, but I imagine that several minutes of forcible ab vibration would result in me talking to Ralph on the porcelain phone. And then I always wonder, what if those ab gadgets actually did work, what do you do if the rest of you is all squashy and out of shape? I envision a strange hybrid person with a tiny bumpy midsection, and large amorphous everything-else, like a cross between a wasp and a jellyfish. Anyhoo, let's just get this out of the way right now: most of those ab products are crap, and the only thing they'll whittle down is your wallet.

So, assuming that we all want abs that will make Brad Pitt look like Homer Simpson, how to go about it? Maybe it's best to eliminate two nasty myths immediately.

myth #1: You can spot reduce the abdominal region by doing situps or crunches.

There is no such thing as spot reduction, no matter how badly we all want it to be true. You will not "tone" your abs by doing crunches. Waist size is determined by bodyfat levels, which are dependent on your diet and overall exercise patterns. In other words, boring old calories in versus calories out. Grrls who put on fat through the midsection (and menopausal women whose fat deposition patterns have shifted to midsection) will have a hard time getting lean enough to see their abs, while women who put on fat primarily in the lower body can often see abs, especially upper abs, at relatively higher levels of bodyfat. Women who have had multiple pregnancies, or abdominal surgery such as a C-section or abdominal hysterectomy, may notice some laxity in the ab region, or some separation down the centre, as a result of trauma to the tissues. To some degree this is correctable through sensible training, but there's a good chance that the area which had the incision will not regain its original condition. You can strengthen them pretty well, though. However, in general, if you want to see your abs and/or lose inches from your waist, you must lose bodyfat. No quick fixes, sorry. Aw, don't cry. You knew it was too good to be true! Here, have a Kleenex. Blowing your nose will give you some ab work.

myth #2: You shouldn't use weight for abdominal training because that makes abs bulky.

Abs are like any other skeletal muscle and require resistance. What we call the abs is a thin sheet of muscle. Given their shape, abs have very limited capacity for hypertrophy (size increase) compared to muscles like the quadriceps. Women especially are unable to exhibit hypertrophy to any great degree, due to much lower testosterone levels than men (I know, I keep harping on this, but people don't seem to get it). Yes, competitive male bodybuilders often get that weird bloated gut with bumpy abs on top, which makes it look like the guys have swallowed a tortoise. It's not from using weight for their ab exercises; it's from excessive drug use. So breathe easy. Unless, of course, you're also injecting growth hormone.

Personally I think it's awesome that I don't have to do crunches till my hair goes gray in order to get good, strong abs. I was the kid in gym class who'd fake an asthma attack to get out of the situp test. God, I hated situps SO MUCH! There'd always be some snotty little natural jock who could crank out a hundred of them without messing up a single shiny hair, and then there'd be me, lying on the floor, wondering if it was possible to die from an ab cramp. These days my abs are one of my best body parts, and I do only a few sets of them, maybe 10 reps a set, 1 to 3 times a week. Using resistance, and treating abs like any other muscle, has given me a whole new lease on life. Or at least on my childhood situp trauma...

when do i do all this stuff?

As I've mentioned, many folks do too high a volume of ab work at too low an intensity. A good frequency for direct ab training is two to four times weekly, with perhaps one weighted ab exercise per workout, done for 2-4 sets of 8-15 reps. Put your heavy ab training at the end of your workout so that you don't fatigue the midsection too early and compromise torso stability (though you can use lighter ab work, such as standing pelvic tilts, as a warmup for something like squatting). These are general guidelines, of course, and you can adjust them to suit your needs. But bear in mind that as always, more isn't better, better is better!

I must also say that I'm continually amazed at how these infomercial merchants keep coming up with new ab machines...it just seems that we went through this just a couple years ago with the electric ab belt that was supposed to stimulate that jelly belly into a rock hard sixpack (until it was recalled by the FTC that is!) and all those ab rockers - and we were here at 3FC saying the same thing back then. The old bodybuilder saying is "Abs are made in the kitchen" and that definitely rings true.

I HIGHLY recommend Pilates for the abs - it'll give you a better core workout than any of these gadgets will! (and incidentally, it's not necessary to do dozens of reps to get results...the Pilates philosophy according to my instructor is to do a few reps of each movement with perfect form...just like weight training - FORM is essential to results).

cat90 03-04-2005 06:58 PM

Hi Jessica :wave: i'm glad to hear that you are pleased with your purchase :) keep me posted on how you make out :D If it helps you to do more then IMO it was money well spent ;)

Suzanne 3FC 03-04-2005 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsJim:
I must also say that I'm continually amazed at how these infomercial merchants keep coming up with new ab machines...

You don't know the half of it :lol: Attached is a diagram of the first patented ab machine in 1902, and they've continued to come in a steady stream since. It's been over 100 years, and our middles are bigger than ever!

cat90 03-05-2005 01:45 PM

:rofl: That looks like "the rack" (an old torture device for the young ones out there) or something that Vincent Price would have used in his horror films :lol3: btw, where can I get one? :joker: :lol:

marbleflys 04-18-2005 02:52 PM

Anyone still using this? Anyone have results? I saw the "Ab Lounge Sport" model at Wally-Mart the other day.....they seem to sell out continually.......hmmmm? Always wondering if I'm *missing* something....

I really DO need a new outside lounge chair for summer reading....could this do double-duty? of course if I'm in the relaxing mode and have a drink while "lounging" I might pinch my fingers!

flxthct107 04-18-2005 03:27 PM

I tried the ab lounge 2 at Gart's and thought it was worthless. Just my opinion though. I'll be sticking with my ball for sure.

tar675 04-18-2005 03:59 PM

I feel like a big dummy! I just purchased an ab lounge sport. I've only been on it 3 times. I feel it burning when I'm doing it but I expected to be sore the next day and wasn't. After reading everyone's comments I'm wishing I hadn't bought it! Aphil suggested to me the winsor pilates but i'm so uncoordinated and clumsy that I was afraid I wouldn't be able to do the exercises correctly thus it being a waste of money! In the past when I've bought exercise tapes I just feel so awkward and am unsure as to whether or not I'm doing it right! Oh Brother..............!!!

marbleflys 04-18-2005 04:25 PM

I haven't tried it yet (too embarrassed to climb up on Wal-marts display shelf and let others see me....) but I would think it all has to do with your positioning and where the arms come into play....I do have a stability ball but I'm rather clumsy with it....then I saw that Target sells a "bagel" to keep the ball from rolling out......geeze it is getting rather complicated.......

you can always return it, for the price of $93.XX, its a lot of $$.


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