Lipovarin... does anyone know anything about this product
 

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Hi all,
This is the first time I am posting so I hope I am doing it right. I was surfing the net and on Consumer Health digest they were reviewing trimspa. The reviews were just okay, and Consumer Health reccommend ********* as a good dietary pill.I am thinking about getting it but I am wondering if anyone has had an success with the product. Thanks

http://consumerhealthdigest.com/trimspa49.htm
here is the website for the reviews of trimspa and *********

http://liposlimsystems.com/
and here is the website for *********

The recommendation from the consumers (public) that they asked to rate the products, as compared to other similar products. These are not based on medical reviews, clinical tests, or anything with substance. The review that they posted recommending it says
Do you think that going to a gym might have contributed to her weight loss? :dizzy:

These types of reviews or testimonials really aren't helpful. None of them make any mention at all of what diet and exercise plan they are following. To lose weight you must burn more than you take in. Period. If you take these pills, you still have to reduce your food intake and preferably include more exercise as well. The "consumers" that said they didn't lose any weight on the pills were probably just taking the pills without attempting to diet, and assumed the pills would just cause the weight to magically come off. Those that did lose weight were probably following a diet or exercise plan, as evidenced by the quote above.

I think consumer reviews are perfect for toasters or cd players. But for anything health related, they are virtually useless for showing the effectiveness of a product. For that, we need detailed studies from independent clinics or universities that can document everything from caloric intake and expenditure, to blood tests and body fat percentage and more.

Instead, we go to a website such as the Liposlim site and what do we get? Warning sign after warning sign. For example. look at the ********* page at http://www.liposlimsystems.com/prod.itml/icOid/57 Take a good look at the before and after photos. The before photos are the classic slouch, forced protruding stomach, sad expression (most diet products before shots follow the same method, as it is very deceiving) and they even have used a filter to dull the images. The after photos have vibrant color, the models are standing up straight with tummies tucked in, and they are smiling. They probably spent a few weeks at a gym and a tanning bed. (one of their models, Justin, obviously spent a LOT of time at the gym to achieve his after photo - no pill in the world can create that.)

Look at their website's impossible claims that I'm sure the FTC will take a closer look at..

Melt the Fat Eat Happy! Why even try to resist all those foods we love to eat...lasagna, loaded baked potatoes, delicious blueberry pie a la mode…
Actually, you can eat these foods with any diet and still lose weight, if you practice portion control and common sense, and limit overall calories without avoiding the healthier foods at the same time, AND exercise so you burn more than you take in. However, they attempt to make us believe that we can eat those foods in abundance and it won't matter a bit, as long as we take their little pill. Hogwash.

They also tell a blatant lie, stating that the product is stimulant free. However, they publish the ingredient panel at the bottom of the page which does indeed show a variety of stimulants, and it even says not to take it after 5pm to avoid sleep deprivation. I notice they include Coral Calcium which is a famous scam-type product and has been practically named as such by the FTC. If you have an allergy to shellfish, this product could create serious reactions, yet there are no warnings on the site. I also don't see any warnings for heart patients or those with high blood pressure, when it clearly contains products that I can't take.

It contains citrus aurantium which is also known as Citrus Aurantium, also known as synephrine, an herbal stimulant similar to ephedra. Health officials are concerned because of synephrine's structural similarity to ephedra. It hasn't been tested or proven to cause weight loss in humans. We did find one study of the effects of citrus aurantium on weight loss in rats. Repeated dosages of this supplement did in fact result in weight loss. It also resulted in death. "Our data indicate that, in the rat, antiobesity effects of C. aurantium are accompanied by toxic effects probably due to cardiovascular toxicity."

I could go on and on. In a nutshell, all of these products are the same. They are not regulated by the FDA so they can make a lot of claims to their effectiveness without any proof whatsoever. Also, when they DO provide testimonials or cite research studies, this information is often fabricated. As an example, read this Q&A from Shape:

With the ban of Ephedra, we are being bombarded with so called "stimulant free" diet products, which are useless. Even ephedra wasn't what it was touted as, aside from the dangers, that is. I'll have to search through my bookmarks to find it, but I read that several studies showed that ephedra was only effective for a 5% increase in fat loss. If you needed to lose 100 lbs, only 5 lbs could be attributed to the ephedra, while 95 lbs were lost due to diet and exercise. I don't see how that is much of an incentive to take a product that has the potential to be so dangerous. The same can be said for all other diet pills. People are easily swayed by the word "natural" when this can sometimes be more dangerous than anything from a pharmacy, because it is not regulated, you can't verify potency, and you don't know what the long term side effects are. The manufacturers are quick to fill their ads with claims that do not have to be proven.

If you have a problem with your appetite, see your physician for suggestions or a prescription, and go back regulary for monitoring to make sure your health is not adversely affected.

In the end, you have to consider your food intake and how you burn excess calories, through a balanced and safe diet and exercise plan. This is the only proven safe way to lose weight, and keep it off.

As you can see, I get a little wound up when I see advertisements such as those :lol: But we've received thousands of email from visitors that have shared their experiences, good and bad, and we've seen too many people burned. Their wallets get thinner, their health suffers, and in the end they say they wish they had just done it the diet and exercise way.

My two cents...

I just checked that Consumer Health Digest site, and despite its claims of being 'nonprofit' it IS an advertising-based site, which means that it is biased IMO - notice on the bottom of the page they have a link where you can buy the products being reviewed - that means they get $$$$ for that.

A lot of these websites are piggybacking off the reputation of Consumer Reports which is TRULY nonbiased and does not accept advertising in either its website or magazine (which has been published for 60 years or so now). This "Consumer Health Digest" bottom line is just another sales site IMO. Caveat emptor.

Not to mention the fact that all these new diet pills are all pretty much the same anyway...

And speaking of those before-and-after photos...

Here's a portion of an article from Testosterone Magazine that pretty much sums THAT up.

I am new to this site, so please forgive me. I am very impressed with your progress, MrsJim. How did you do it and how long has it taken?

Thank you in advance for your reply.

Thank you for the compliments!

I do have a personal website - if you click on my name on the left and go to my profile, the link is in there :) although I haven't had the time to update it for a couple years now...one of these days...life gets in the way!

Wow Mrs Jim
 

I am so impressed by your story (just looked at your link). I know I am way off the original subject of this message, but did you have a lot of saggy skin after losing all of that weight? I currently weigh 266 (max was 271) and I am a little afraid to succeed because I don't want baggy skin or the surgery to deal with it.

Txchick...

We have received SO many questions about loose skin that Meg (the moderator of our Maintainers' Forum) has written a "Loose Skin FAQ" sticky thread that you can find here...

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36040

I think you would find it quite interesting. One thing I would like to say is PLEASE do not let the possibility of loose skin keep you from losing weight. Even if you DO end up with loose skin, and you can't or won't have surgery, still I would NEVER go back to 265 pounds...

Ordering Lipovarin
 

Be careful about ordering from Lipo Slim Systems. I did, and the product did not arrive as agreed. They have not answered my three emails.

JRW - if you used a credit card to pay for the product - call the issuer ASAP and request that a chargeback be filed right away.

Don't call Visa or Mastercard directly - call the bank that issued your card.

You DO have rights.

and don't hesitate to file a complaint with the bank!!!! i had a problem with a return from some wackos who insisted that they NEVER gave refunds. i got the credit card company involved, and TRUST ME... they paid up!!!!

Yup - it's all part of the securities built into the payment card system. Doesn't matter if it's a credit or debit transaction...if you have the Visa logo on your card, you still have the right to file a chargeback.

From the Visa website:

And while you're at it, make sure to file a complaint with the BBB:

http://www.bbbonline.org/consumer/complaint.asp

Lipovarin worked for me
 

i read what all of you are saying but the bottom line wasthat the product wokrked for me. I have tried Xendarine and Zantrex and they didnt do much. ********* looked new and unique so i gave it a shot. they have a 30 trial period so what i got to lose. I only needed to lose 10 pounds. I lost 8 pounds in 3 weeks and didnt really change things around. I mean i work out 3-4 per week and eat pretty good. I felt this did something that other products didnt. Made me less hungry i felt and gave me good energy for my workouts. You ladies seem to bash all the webpages but the bottom line is does the product work? All other products say the same thing and have same before and afters anyway so its all a moot point. BUt you are right in one regard, 90% of people lose weight with diet and exercise. People shouldnt hopefully realize this but i guess others dont. All i can say is ********* helped me reach my goals so I say give it a try. :) :)

Well according to the FTC, Harvard Medical School, University of California, countless other universities and medical organizations, thousands of people that emailed us last year in response to a report we did on weight loss products, and a nice chunk of 3FC forum members,... no, they don't. They contain questionable ingredients, are potentially dangerous, useless, expensive, and distort consumers perception of healthy weight loss. All you need is diet and exercise. Period. As you yourself have shown, working out at the gym and eating properly can have a positive effect on the body. That's all we need. And it WORKS. Why risk your health? The majority of our visitors are around 100 lbs overweight and need to be concerned about their overall health, in a way that only proper nutrition and exercise can address. These companies make weight loss seem as easy as popping a pill, when it is not that at all. They use clever names such as "lipo slim" to associate the results of their product with liposuction, as an example. This is shady, cheap marketing, but then what else can you say about a product that intentionally preys on vulnerable people, which is true for the vast majority of similar companies. There's a lot of money to be made in this business, and dieters are a prime target for scammers and shady practices.

We can never say this enough.. if these products REALLY worked, we'd read about it in the newspapers, see it on CNN, our health insurance companies would be pushing us to take them, and our doctors would be waiting with baited breath to tell us. If these products really worked, obesity wouldn't exist.

That's all I needed to read.


There is no magic pill. I don't know how many times I can say that.