The end of ephedra?
I'm sure that most of you who watched the evening news last night saw this story, but I liked the San Francisco Chronicle's take on it:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...9/MN210471.DTL Quote:
As any person versed in the legal world can tell you, whether or not the plaintiff wins their lawsuit, the legal fees (which are mostly paid by the insurers) which are incurred in the filing, discovery, and processing of these suits and appeals can be considerable to say the least. I wonder how much the recent McDonald's negligence suit (which was dismissed by the judge recently) cost the company? Just a few musings here on a grey Wednesday morning... |
I wondered the same thing when I heard about this. How many more lives will be lost before the "powers that be" take action? The press should give this much coverage to ANYONE that is harmed by ephedra or other dangerous supplements. Think of the mothers and teenagers that have also lost their lives, or had their health seriously and permanently damaged simply because the FDA had their hands tied. What more will it take?
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Article about Ephedra in OWH
I read an article today in the Omaha World Herald that it doesn't matter to alot of people they will jeopardize their health inorder to curb their appetites. NO SENSE.
Miss Chris |
In defense of appetite suppresents.....I have been taking Xenadrine EFX (WITHOUT Ephedra) on and off for a few months now...and it really works...I am also eating 4-5 small meals a day, lots of water and plenty of exercise...
I had a real problem with confusing thirst for hunger, and eating out of bordem...But now, I don't do that anymore... I only take half the dose that is recommended on the back of the bottle...and it seems to be helping me... |
For several years I have been aware of the dangers of ephedra (ma huang) and am amazed that it is still allowed on the market. Unfortunately far too many people don't do personal research on products but simply take them for a "magic" way to lose weight. And sadly, far too many people suffer serious side effects or even death. <sigh>
Sue |
Same things you are guys are saying can be applied to fast food places if you think about. So why don't they regulate fast food? Hmmm?
I think if they regulate Ephedra it can be used in a safe manner. Along with good common sense. |
It's already being regulated in California - the governor signed legislation that went into effect last month...
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Here's an interesting article... http://www.quackwatch.org/04Consumer...insurance.html Quote:
http://www.post-gazette.com/healthsc...7hephedra3.asp Quote:
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I think that it should not be taken off the market.
I have used ephedra products on and off for years and I have no problems. I think that the problems with anything begin when a handful of people abuse it. Sure if you take double the dose as I heard on the news that the baseball player was taking well duh your going to give yourself a heart-attack!!! |
For those of you saying it didn't hurt you, good for you. BUT, for someone with undiagnosed heart problems or high blood pressure, just one of these pills could kill you. There was a story in the news about a mom that was taking it and she sadly had an undiagnosed heart problem. She died, leaving her husband and small children behind. She thought it was perfectly safe for her. She was young, no high blood pressure and one morning she dropped dead at the gym. She wasn't as lucky as some of you. There's also the fact that you may have lingering liver problems from this stuff that won't be obvious at first. Is it worth it????
It's a dangerous drug and now another young athlete is dead. It's tragic. This crap speeds up your heart. It's the same as anthpetemines. (sp) and I'll cheer when it's off the market. AND have you ever taken your vitamin and forgotten and taken another one???? What if you did that with Ephedra and it killed you, by accident of course? How can you so callously say Duh it will kill??? He was about to be a father and desperate to lose weight to make the team. He probally thought it was safe. AL he did was take one extra pill. Are you all one pill from a heart attack when you are on ephedra?? What if you had a daughter that took a double dose, not knowing, and died? Would that be the same Duh......??? Just curious. Most people fail to research it because ther perceive it as safe because all the bottles say in big bold letters "ALL NATURAL, SAFE, EFFECTIVE." I get soooo uptight because when I did LASW, back in 99 before there was bad press about the Ephedra, it was in their Tri-Max and Ma Hung. They bestowed it's virtues to me and I believed them. It made me jittery, nauseous, and one night I awoke with a shooting pain in one arm. I then did my research and threw the crap away. Was I one pill away from a heart attack or stroke??? |
Hi Dana
I agree completely! Once unknowingly I took a supplement purchased from my gym and which they "guaranteed" was really good for you and didn't contain "any bad stuff." I took it for about a week and was totally on a high, jittery, etc. So I began doing research -- fortunately I am "Internet savvy" but what if I hadn't been? I was able to diagnose what was causing it and found out about ephedra and ma huang. What makes it even worse is that I have a neurological imbalance and take anticonvulsants... nobody bothered to warn me that this stuff CAUSES convulsions and liver damage (which I have to be tested for every six months anyway because of my meds). I just want to lose weight and get in shape... I don't want to DIE over any of this stupid stuff! Sure we are all responsible for ourselves and what we eat or ingest. Still, to have something on the market which is knowingly killing people who are unaware is just plain irresponsible in my opinion. Sue |
Hi Ladies, and thanks for bringing up this subject. I am super-sensitive any kind of stimulant, and my husband refuses to prescribe any appetite suppressants for me. I get nervous, palms sweat, and become a raving insomniac. So, what is a fat chick to do? When-- even though she eats sensibly, has dieted, and is involved in sports regularly-- she cannot seem to lose more than a meager 1-3 lbs., after much struggle. He (Hubby, M.D.) finally prescribed Topamax, an anti-manic and migraine prophylactic that has a cool side effect: appetite suppression. And did it work? Sure. Miracles on my girlfriend, but made me a little nauseous and somnolent. Yes, my appetite was suppressed. I am not recommending this to anyone. GO AND SEE YOUR PHYSICIAN. At least you will be armed with one more nugget of information, if you cannot/will not take ephedra and other such controversial drugs. Research and knowledge are the key, not to mention small dosing initially to see how these things work on you personally. Many drugs are concocted for one ailment, and ultimately are found to have wonderful "side effects" that work on something related or different.
Once again: see your physician, ask intelligent questions, have knowledge to debate with, but follow the doctor's advice first and foremost. You may say goodbye to a big appetite eventually. Good Luck to all! |
personally i dont' see the point in arguing to ban ephadrine and relatated products i feel there are much more important issues to be argued with regards to health like banning public smoking.
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Well, since ephedra *has* been banned for almost a year in the US now, this whole thread is probably a moot point anyway... :rolleyes:
Kind of a 'blast from the past' as it were. |
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