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This is my first post-still gotta run over and post an intro, but I was excited to see a thread about slim shots. I started them yesterday, along with my diet, and I noticed a definate decrease in my appetite! I take one with breakfast and one with dinner to curb my late night cravings. I stay up late most nights and thats when I want the oreos, chips, and junk. The only drawback for me is the taste..thank God they are small because they are disgusting!:p

I had wondered if they worked, too, but I was not curious enough to buy them.

I think I would gag on a shot of any oil. I'd also rather eat that olive oil with some chicken and vegetables.

Energy drinks can be a good temporary appetite supressant, as well as coffee. If you drink a Java Monster Lo Ball (100 calories, 6g carbs, 2g fat), you will stop feeling hungry for a couple hours.

well ... I tried them. I thought the concept sounded good....when will I learn?

I didn't really find that they did anything. I only took 2 a day like the instructions said. I used the whole box.

Cathy

The shot is the color and consistency of milk. I couldnt hack it either if it was "oily"-reminds me too much of the castor oil I drank, twice!, to try and induce labor. So disgustingly nasty.
You know, after thinking about it, I dont know if the SS are really working or if its a placebo effect just because Im determined to lose weight...but Im all for whatever works!

ok, I started them yesterday after much research at the Slim Short website.

First, some background on me and my eating habits:

I am 40 and my weight has ranged from 210 at my highest down to 129 at my lowest (after deliberate weight loss attempts) I am an emotional eater and always eat when I am bored or stressed out. I do fine on different eating plans for awhile but get bored counting calories/fat grams/portions etc after a couple of months and then stop keeping track. I am not desperate to lose weight but I am eager to be healthy.

I took my first Slim Shot yesterday afternoon and I did experience much less hunger for the rest of the day. I worried that I would still eat because my problem is emotional eating (specifically sweets) and I knew the Slim Shots were not going to change my emotional reactions to stress and boredom! (LOL, if only!) I was very pleasantly surprised to find that even though I thought about eating, I just didnt feel like it psysically. My brain said "time for a snack" and my stomach said "nah...i'm full already". I just did not have that hunger feeling that I previously assumed was purely emotional.

That being said...I know the power of positive thinking! It could be that after reading the research and clinical studies (which if you go to the site, you will see that this stuff has been PROVEN to be effective in 4 different clinical studies) that I just psyched myself up into believing it would work so hence, it works. I guess the only way to know for sure is if I use these for a whole month and lose weight.

I have seen people try a product, post about their first day or two and then never follow up. I've got it on my calendar to post again in a week to let yous know if I am still finding it helpful or not. As of this morning, I weigh 161.5. I'm not going to count calories or keep track of what I am eating..i'm just going to try and eat normal portions at regular meals, along with a snack or two only if I feel like it (hopefully I wont).

I am pessimistic when it comes to these kinds of products but i'm willing to give them a chance without deliberately sabotaging myself by assuming they dont work (and giving myself permission to go ahead and eat all the junk I want) I will consider them a "helper" to my weight loss efforts and nothing more. LOL..if I do find that they work consistently for the entire month, THEN I will come back to sing their praises! :D

So wish me luck! :)

oh yeah..the taste is bad but not unbearable. I cant describe the flavor but with my penchant for sweets, its no wonder that I am not loving the taste. :D

Ok, I tried them. I bought them at Walgreens on sale. I gave them an honest chance and really wanted them to work. It would be great if there was a natural product out there that could help people control their appetites. However, I felt absolutely no effect. I tried them several times a day for 10 days.

No effect :shrug:

Suzanne... Always the guinea pig.

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Originally Posted by Suzanne 3FC (Post 2295523)

Any theories as to why they work in a blind study?

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CLINICAL #1:

Objective:

To assess weight maintenance after weight loss by consumption of yoghurt with a novel fat emulsion (Olibra) including effects on body composition, resting energy expenditure (REE), fat oxidation, hunger feelings and satiety hormones.

Design:

A randomized, placebo-controlled, double-blind, parallel design. A 6-week weight loss period (2.1 MJ/day) was followed by 18 weeks weight maintenance with test (Olibra) or placebo yoghurt. Subjects: Fifty overweight women (age: 18–58 years, body mass index (BMI) 25–32 kg/m2).

Results:

During weight maintenance after significant body weight reduction, there was no significant increase in body weight in the test group (1.173.4 kg); the placebo group did gain weight (3.073.1 kg, Po0.001). Compared to the placebo group, the test group was less hungry 4 h after yoghurt consumption in week 25 (Po0.05) and showed increased glucagon like peptide-1 values 180 min after yoghurt consumption (week 25 vs week 1, Po0.05). Measured REE as a function of fat-free mass (FFM) was significantly higher than predicted REE (Po0.05) in week 26 for the test group, but not for the placebo group. Fat mass (FM) was significantly more decreased in the test group (6.574.1 kg) compared to the placebo group (4.173.6 kg) (week 26 vs week 2, Po0.05).

Conclusion:

Consumption of Olibra yoghurt improved weight maintenance compared to placebo, which can be explained by the relatively higher REE as a function of FFM, relatively higher decrease in FM and the relatively lower increase in hunger. "

CLINICAL #2

"Short-term effects of yoghurt containing a novel fat emulsion on energy and macronutrient intakes in non-obese subjects

Design:

Two double-blind, placebo-controlled, within-subject crossover studies were conducted three months apart. Twenty-nine (15 F, 14 M) and thirty (16 F, 14 M) subjects participated in Study 1 and Study 2 respectively. In each study, subjects were given in random order, 7 days apart, either a 200 g portion of a test (5 g of a novel fatemulsion.1 g milk fat) or control (6 g milk fat) yoghurt at 1300 h. At 4 h post-consumption subjects were given ad libitum access to a range of foods. Amounts of food consumed by individuals were determined by pre- and post-covert weighing of individual serving dishes.

Results:

Mean energy intakes were significantly lower after the test yoghurt compared with the control yoghurt in Study 1 (6.4 vs 7.6 MJ; P<0.001), Study 2 (6.9 vs 7.9 MJ; P<0.001), and for both studies combined (6.7 vs 7.7 MJ;P<0.001). The corresponding fat intakes in Study 1, Study 2 and in the combined studies were all significantly reduced (P<0.001). Protein and carbohydrate intakes were also significantly reduced in Study 1 (P<0.05), Study 2 (P<0.01), and for the combined studies (P<0.001).

Conclusions:

These results suggest that the physicochemical characteristics of small amounts of dietary fat affect short-term satiety."

CLINICAL #3:

Design:

A double-blind, placebo-controlled, within-subject crossover design was used. Twenty (10 female, 10 male) non-overweight (body mass index (BMI) 20 – 24.9 kg=m2), 20 (10 female, 10 male) overweight (BMI 25 – 29.9 kg=m2) and 20 (13 female, 7 male) obese (BMI>30 kg=m2) subjects participated in the study. Subjects were given in random order, 7 days apart, either a 200 g portion of a test (5 g of a novel fat emulsion.1 g milk fat) or control (6 g milk fat) yoghurt at 09:00 h. At 4 and 8 h post-consumption subjects were given ad libitum access to a range of foods. Amounts of food consumed were determined by pre and post-covert weighing of individual serving dishes. Over the following 24 h subjects weighed and recorded all food intakes.

Results:

Mean energy intakes were significantly lower after the test yoghurt compared with the control yoghurt in non-overweight (3.79 vs 5.43 MJ; P <0.01) and overweight (4.43 vs 6.12 MJ; P <0.001) subjects 4 h post-consumption and in non-overweight (3.82 vs 5.38 MJ; P <0.001), overweight (3.94 vs 5.80 MJ; P <0.001) and obese (4.91 vs 6.26 MJ; P <0.01) subjects 8 h post-consumption. The corresponding macronutrient intakes were also significantly reduced in non-overweight and overweight subjects (P <0.01) at 4 h post-consumption and in all subjects 8 h post-consumption (P <0.01). In the total group, energy intakes over the following 24 h were also significantly reduced (6.35 vs 7.70 MJ; P <0.01) after the test yoghurt relative to the control yoghurt.

Conclusions:

These results suggest that the effects of this novel fat emulsion are maintained at least up to 8 h and are evident in non-overweight, overweight and obese subjects.

CLINICAL #4:

Design:

A single-blind, placebo-controlled, within-subject cross-over design was used.

Interventions:

Subjects were given in random order, 7 days apart, a 200 g portion of yoghurt containing a total of 15 g of fat, which varied in quantity of OlibraTM fat (0, 2, 4, 6 g) at 09:00 h. At 13:00 h subjects were given ad libitum access to a range of foods. Amounts of food consumed were measured by covert pre- and post-consumption weighing of individual serving dishes. For the remainder of the day and the following 24 h, subjects weighed and recorded all food intakes.

Results:

Relative to the control yoghurt, mean energy (7.42 vs 5.83, 5.60, 5.24 MJ), fat (97.4 vs 74.4, 74.2, 67.5 g; 48.8 vs 46.8, 48.9, 47.6% energy), protein (59.1 vs 50.0, 44.0, 40.8 g; 13.2 vs 13.9, 12.9, 12.8% energy), and carbohydrate (171.5 vs 140.9, 130.2, 126.0 g; 38.0 vs 39.3, 38.2, 39.6% energy), intakes were progressively reduced with increasing doses of OlibraTM fat in the total group (P <0.001). A similar response was observed in the female group up to 4 g (P <0.001) and in the male group after 2 and 6 g (P <0.05). Energy and macronutrient intakes for the remainder of each study day and over the following 24 h were significantly lower after all dose levels compared to the control (P<0.001).

Conclusion:

The results suggest that OlibraTM fat reduced the effect of overeating during an ad libitum lunch meal and subsequent food intake up to 36 h post-consumption.

I'm not one to blindly believe studies..some are slanted by testers who want to please the sponsors who pay big money for the study. But it appears that the results of the studies done for this stuff have been published in the International Journal of Obesity and in the European Journal of Clinical Nutrition so I dont believe the results are biased. My only questions is how effective are Slim Shots...maybe they only suppress your appetite slightly. Maybe the test subjects were paying careful attention to their appetites because they were in the study. Maybe people at home are too busy to pay close attention. I dunno...lots of variables to consider! For me personally, its enough for me to notice. Maybe after a week, I will lose interest, though.

I want these to work...but i've had a lot of disappointment with products such as this in the past. I'm going to try very hard to listen to my body instead of listening to my head. Its my head that caused me to develop my bad eating habits. Maybe listening to my body will be what it takes to get rid of these last 30 pounds. If the Slim Shots work at all to help curb my appetite then they are worth the 40 bucks. Who knows..maybe a shot of olive oil would do the same but i'm not gonna be the one to start my own diet fad. :D

Yes, it would be wonderful if there was a natural appetite suppressant on the market. I bet it would cost a fortune if it produced dramatic results! All I want is a little bit of an edge to help me along. Slim Shots may be the answer for me! I hope so! :)

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Originally Posted by valley (Post 2296143)

Who knows..maybe a shot of olive oil would do the same but i'm not gonna be the one to start my own diet fad. :D

Check out the Shangri-La Diet book, that's exactly what they did, lol. I tried it and it made me gag! And it still had no effect on my appetite, other than making me gag when I thought of it so I didn't want to eat :lol:

Valley, I really wanted them to work, too. The only reason I tried them was because of the clinical studies, otherwise I wouldn't have paid for them. I really don't like supporting an industry that is so well known for fraud.

These results suggest that the physicochemical characteristics of small amounts of dietary fat affect short-term satiety.

I searched around and found that my experience was shared by many, unfortunately. I haven't looked at the actual study, but what their marketing department published (above) makes it appear as if the results were positive. But as you say, maybe it was a tiny amount that might not be noticeable. But realistically, if we're paying that kind of money for a product, we want it to really work and not just work if we concentrate real hard :lol:

To be honest, though, I don't think products like this will help many people to lose weight. Most people don't overeat because they are physically hungry. They overeat because they receive some sort of emotional comfort from eating, or they just like the food. They continue to eat even though they are full. We surveyed over 10,000 dieters and asked if they overate due to actual hunger (true appetite), or boredom and/or emotions. Only 6% said they overate due to true appetite. Therefore, it's probably safe to say that 94% of dieters are not going to benefit from a product like this, especially if the effect is so minor.

all of the shots are given with dairy... doesn't the dairy skew the results?

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Originally Posted by Suzanne 3FC (Post 2296751)

These results suggest that the physicochemical characteristics of small amounts of dietary fat affect short-term satiety.

I searched around and found that my experience was shared by many, unfortunately. I haven't looked at the actual study, but what their marketing department published (above) makes it appear as if the results were positive. But as you say, maybe it was a tiny amount that might not be noticeable. But realistically, if we're paying that kind of money for a product, we want it to really work and not just work if we concentrate real hard :lol:

To be honest, though, I don't think products like this will help many people to lose weight. Most people don't overeat because they are physically hungry. They overeat because they receive some sort of emotional comfort from eating, or they just like the food. They continue to eat even though they are full. We surveyed over 10,000 dieters and asked if they overate due to actual hunger (true appetite), or boredom and/or emotions. Only 6% said they overate due to true appetite. Therefore, it's probably safe to say that 94% of dieters are not going to benefit from a product like this, especially if the effect is so minor.

Depressing but true. I knew they werent going to be something that would knock my socks off...but I was hoping they would curb my appetite enough so I could stop thinking about eating constantly. They seem to work so far today...but its probably all mental.

I will still post and let everyone know if I lose any weight after the week.

how do they taste? it sounds like it would be kinda gross.

I thought it tasted like liquid plastic. Despite the 'natural' ingredients, it tasted very much like chemical glop.

the taste reminds me rancid oil. :D No kidding! Thats what I think of! :o

I have lost 2 pounds since I started them. I gave my sister 6 of them yesterday morning and she said she tried them 3 times and didnt see a difference. I think I notice a difference because I am so intent on finding one, lol. I had myself so psyched that they would help that I did not feel hungry for the first 2 days. Yesterday, I did some emotional eating..it rained all day and I was bored and kept grabbing a bite of this and a bite of that...I got up this morning and hadnt lost anymore weight. I'm doing good so far today and dont feel hungry. But i'm keeping busy so maybe thats why. I wish I could pinpoint if its the product working or if its just my "wishful thinking" that is taking away my hunger. Whatever it is...I hope it lasts long enough for me to lose these last 30 pounds!!! :D

:)