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Carrie3146 06-14-2008 04:06 PM

Inability to Process Nutrasweet, etc.
 
Hi. I'm wondering if anyone else here has had problems with Nutrasweet, Splenda, and/or any other artificial sweeteners.

I can not process them - they make me physically sick (nauseated, dizzy, etc.). So obviously most sugar-free foods and drinks are out for me. Not so easy for a newly-dieting soda addict!

If anyone has this same issue, have you had any luck with any other products? I've heard a bit about Stevia, but at this point I'm a nervous about even trying anything similar.

Thanks in advance!

Carol

chickybird 06-14-2008 05:07 PM

I'm with you girl! I have IBS and I get insanely sick from that stuff. Stevia did not work for me.
Also, check your toothpaste. Unless you are using an all natural toothpaste like Tom's of Maine, your toothpaste has sorbitol in it, an really nasty artificial sweetener. It took me months to figure out why I always had diarrhea and nausea after brushing my teeth. Good luck!
By the way, I lost 4 pounds last year without using any artificial sweeteners. It can be done!

meowee 06-14-2008 08:31 PM

I was a little surprised to hear that you had problems with Stevia, Chickybird . . . that is quite unusual since Stevia is usually very well tolerated by most that are bothered by the chemical type of non-caloric sweeteners.

I would recommend that you try it Carrie . . . it is a completely natural product and you only need to use a tiny bit becaue it is so much sweeter than sugar in the first place.

Good Luck to you both . . . guess I'm a one of the lucky ones . . . Splenda and I get along very well together.

snapless 06-14-2008 11:28 PM

Nutrasweet (aspartame) is very very very bad for you anyway.

Any alternative would be better. The following articles should help you decide on a sweetener that is right for you.

http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-sweeteners.html
http://www.holisticmed.com/sweet/

Good luck!

chickybird 06-15-2008 10:08 PM

snapless, thanks for the websites. The case histories for aspartame poisoning were really eye opening. I work with young kids (they are not diabetic, before anyone asks) and it drives me wild to see parents give them diet sodas and sugar free gum. Little kids' digestive systems and brains are still developing and are sensitive enough already; they don't need to be exposed to aspartame.

Carrie3146 06-15-2008 10:21 PM

Thanks for the info everyone. I had no idea about the toothpaste - really makes you wonder what these people are thinking, exposing so many people to it without their knowledge or any real need!

I haven't tried Stevia. I saw it in an iced tea mix yesterday (one flavor of Iced Tea to Go, or something like that - that you pour into water bottles), and was wondering about it, but at this point, I'm a bit nervous.

I suppose it's best to try to do without them all anyway. But I sure miss my soft drinks!

Carrie3146 06-15-2008 10:25 PM

PS, I noticed at my sister's tonight that even the kiddie toothpaste (Thomas the Tank Engine) has sorbitol in it. One of my nephews is not even two yet - does he really need that?!

chickybird 06-15-2008 10:35 PM

Carrie, nope! Try this website:
http://www.tomsofmaine.com/toms/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=300
You can buy the products online or at whole foods. My walmart actually carries Tom's of Maine products.
There's also a FAQ page if you're curious. I've been using their stuff for years. I've even gotten my husband addicted, lol!

Carrie3146 06-16-2008 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chickybird (Post 2227623)
Carrie, nope! Try this website:
You can buy the products online or at whole foods. My walmart actually carries Tom's of Maine products.
There's also a FAQ page if you're curious. I've been using their stuff for years. I've even gotten my husband addicted, lol!

Thanks - I will take a look at it in the store. It's hard to tell from their website just what's in the toothpastes. If you look at the ingredients in their products in general, though, they list Sorbitol too.

I've never knowingly had a problem with toothpaste myself, but this is all making me wonder!

GR8 2B48 06-16-2008 07:09 PM

The artificial sweeteners are completely out for me. I only use Stevia which is a natural herb non-calorie sweetener. It can be found at health food stores. I order my vitamins and Stevia from a discount catalog, Swanson's. They also have a website.

Carrie3146 06-17-2008 07:19 PM

Today I ran across something I hadn't seen before: Arizona Pomegranite Acai Green Tea tea bags. No calories, no carbs...no sweeteners! So I took a bag, dunked it in my cold water bottle for about 10 minutes, and voila! VERY tasty, lots of flavor, a bit sweet...I was very happy with it!

snapless 06-18-2008 09:27 AM

Jasmine tea is another thing (very popular in Japan) you might try. It's a unique flavor that you may or may not like but it is no carbs/no calories/no caffiene.

Carrie3146 06-18-2008 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snapless (Post 2231392)
Jasmine tea is another thing (very popular in Japan) you might try. It's a unique flavor that you may or may not like but it is no carbs/no calories/no caffiene.

Thanks Suzanne. I will look for some. I'm very happy to have some flavor options now!

sunflowergirl68 08-03-2008 12:59 AM

That's actually a good thing you can't have artificial sweeteners.... they're just not good for you. Someone up there ^^^^ posted a fantastic link.

Gale02 08-03-2008 01:16 AM

I know this thread is pretty old, but I saw it pop up front and wanted to comment. You can absolutely lose weight without using artificial sweeteners. They all make me rather sick too, so I don't use them at all and I lost 63lbs last year. Finding a sub for your soda was probably going to prove to be the hard part, but it looks like you're doing great with tea! I just wanted to encourage you that you CAN lose weight without using artificial sweeteners. :)

Keep up the good work!

Ewing 08-04-2008 05:40 PM

I felt the need to respond to this thread as well.

I moved to a new city last year and began to get bad headaches that seemed to impair every aspect of my life. I figured most of it had to do with the new climate and possibly allergies since I felt sinus pressure to the point that even my eyes would ache and burn.

My boyfriend noticed I'd get worse on the days I stayed home from work. When I was on my vacation I reached the point where I couldn't handle anything but laying in a darkened room wearing a sleep mask to keep out the light. I couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, couldn't get on the computer or even read a book, I was in way too much pain. It took us a while to make the connection that I was drinking all my diet drinks and eating my diet popsicles when I was at home but would normally have just water while working. When I lost my appetite and was stuck in bed, the only food I seemed to be able to handle were those frozen popsicles. Had no clue that they were only making me worse. Really got the clue the one day I was actually feeling good for a change; when my boyfriend came home and I immediately got a severe headache. He joked that I must be allergic to him but the reality was that he'd brought me some bottled tea that happened to be diet.

I think I went though about a month of "withdrawals" after I stopped using artificial sweeteners (I tried several and they all seem to effect me). I've yet to try stevia but read that Coca-Cola is planning on introducing it into a new Diet Coke in the US sometime this year. They've already successfully introduced it to their diet soda in Japan and I'd say they have the money and clout to legalize it as a food additive here and not just a supplement. I'm hoping that it will arrive soon and be just what I need for my soda fix, lol.

Anyway, another benefit I gained from staying away from artificial sweeteners has been a healthy bladder. You have no idea how many issues I've had with it in the past ten years or so, which would probably be defined as "overactive bladder." It had gotten much worse shortly before making the move here. Apparently the strong, frequent urges I'd get was my body's way of trying to flush the bad chemicals away? For once in my life I can actually sit through a movie and not have to take three trips to the restroom!

And several months after figuring all this out? My teeth and gums started hurting, and wouldn't ya know it, it took me a while to figure out that all my dental products had artificial sweeteners as well, toothpaste, mouthwash, even the oral anesthetic I was using to fight off a toothache was making the rest of my mouth too painful to bear! I've since switched to using all natural products.

chickybird 08-04-2008 06:22 PM

ewing, I know what you mean about the toothpaste. I used to get stomach cramps and diarrhea after brushing my teeth. I use Tom's of Maine now. Even the whitening strips and gels have it in there too. Did you know the dentist uses artificial sweeteners in their fluoride treatments/ polishes? It's how they get the different flavors. I also found out that my dentist uses listerine (with artificial sweeteners) in the water they use to rinse out your mouth with during cleanings.

Ewing 08-04-2008 07:36 PM

chickybird- I've been using Tom's of Maine too and love it. Neither the toothpaste nor mouthwash as nearly as strong-tasting as more mainstream products and I like them much more because of it. It's also the only natural dental products I've been able to find in mainstream stores like CVS and Wal-mart.

I'm due to see the dentist soon, so I appreciate your words here. I'll be sure to ask a lot of questions about any treatments I'll need.

Carrie3146 08-11-2008 09:03 PM

Sorry for not responding sooner - I haven't been in here in a while! It just amazes me how many stories I continue to hear about bad reactions to these products, but you never really hear anything in the mainstream media about them. It really makes me wonder how many people are getting sick from them and don't even know it, like Ewing described.

At this point, I don't even know if I'd want to try Stevia. I'm getting along OK without them so far. Sure, I crave a Coke now and then! But I doubt that even if I could have a Diet Coke, it would quench that desire. They never tasted the same anyway.

I'd say we all deserve just a little pat on the back for managing to get some weight off without any of the sugar-free goodies!! Keep it up ladies (and any gents too)...you're doing great!!!

Carol

Iffy 08-11-2008 09:18 PM

I have always had issues wit aspartame and other artificial sweeteners even before I was dx with anything. You can lose weight w/o the artificials you just have to work around it.

k8t 08-12-2008 09:28 PM

Oooh..could I tell so many stories about the evil of Nutrasweet. (Aspartame) I know so many people with problems with it. My brother can't have even a tiny amount of it without having to be rushed to the hospital with seizures. (More complaints filed about this food additive than any other.) Two of its chemical compounds are a neurotoxin and formaldehyde....

Beware those who are avoiding it....even treats not marked "sugar free" are starting to have it in there now. Check the packages of gum next time you're standing in the shopping line to see how prevalent it has become.

Carrie3146 08-18-2008 08:30 PM

Cold Medicine
 
I was taking some Tylenol Cold meds the other day, and got them in my mouth before I had my water ready, and noticed the coating was sort-of burning (not in a dangerous way, but it was a strange sensation).

Got the box out, and sure enough, one of the "inactive ingredients" is Sucralose, which as far as I can tell is a version of Splenda. Great. Now even our medicine is making us sick.

chickybird 08-18-2008 10:35 PM

Yep. A lot of cold/allergy/sinus pills now have the "cool blast" coating. It severely limits the types of medicine I can take. I haven't been able to find a cough syrup with out artificial sweeteners. I use them, but am always really queasy afterwards.
I can understand artificially flavoring cough syrups/chewable tablets so kids/diabetics can take them, but for pity's sake, do pills have to be coated in sweet stuff before we take them?!

k8t 08-19-2008 07:25 PM

Ahhh...my post just disappeared...drat....

While not appropriate for children under the age of 1, dark honey (like that from Buckwheat) has been found to be as effective, if not more effective, at helping to surpress coughs.

Here is an article about a Penn State study done http://live.psu.edu/story/27584

Honey from your local supermarket would probably be too processed to be of any medicinal or nutritional use. You would want to get it from a local health food store or reputable store with a Organic/Natural Foods section.

My folks used to give me hot honey water with lemon juice. Same principle.

Carrie3146 08-19-2008 09:55 PM

I just checked the ol' Robitussin bottle..that has something called "Saccharine Sodium" - WTH?!!! Didn't they outlaw saccharine a long time ago?!!

So are there any cold and cough meds that don't use this crap, but still work?

k8t 08-19-2008 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carrie3146 (Post 2324054)
I just checked the ol' Robitussin bottle..that has something called "Saccharine Sodium" - WTH?!!! Didn't they outlaw saccharine a long time ago?!!

So are there any cold and cough meds that don't use this crap, but still work?

You can find some natural products out there. (I think Nature's Way has a cough medicine, but I would have to order it online.) But as you said, they are few and far between. Lots of nasty stuff out there.

USDA tried to ban Saccharine in the 1970s after there was some question about it causing cancer in rats. By the 1990s, the government was saying that the studies were flawed, and saccharine could be sold in the US. It never really went completely off the shelves.

Read an interesting face about aspartame...it orginially had its start as an ulcer drug. The chemist working on it happened to lick his finger when making the drug, discovered the sweetness, and the rest as they say is history.

Personally, I would rather limit my consumption of natural sweetners than mess with these Franken-sweetners.

SunshineMN 09-12-2008 12:00 PM

Stevia
 
Hey All - new to the website and excited to be a part of it!!!

I found Stevia early this week and have been using it for different things. It truly is sweeter then sugar! Haven't gotten the chance to get crafty and experimental - but would recommend trying it! I'm diabetic and working on losing a ton of weight. So, if anyone has recipes, suggestions, or opinions - I'm reading w/ a complete open mind!

Thanks!

Lori Bell 09-12-2008 05:32 PM

I'm another artificial freak...LOL I mean I can't handle artificial sweeteners. They make me very anxious, head aches, panic attacks, chest pains...the whole nine yards. It is poison to me. I quit smoking several years ago and started chewing nicotine gum to help me kick the habit. The old gum, though horrible helped, but then they changed the formula to make it more tasty, (addictive) and it is laced in sorbitol. I break out in a panic attack after chewing 1/2 a piece of the 2mg stuff. I try never to chew it, but occasional I do when I have a major nicotine craving. A 2 hour panic attack is better than getting addicted to cigarettes again...

It's no wonder people are on so many meds. From Migrains to Panic, fake sugar is the cause of the majority of my ailments. I'm better off saving up calories and splerging on a real coke every now and then. I was never as fat in my life as I was drinking a 6 pack of diet cola a day. Seriously.

Carrie3146 09-13-2008 01:55 PM

You really have to wonder why they don't have to put warnings on products containing this stuff!


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