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Sounds like enjoyable Christmas entertainment, Pipsicle. Have a nice time!

I am packaging up my Christmas cookies today. Letting them defrost right now. Step sons will be delivered but everyone else will be doing pick up. I ate 3 which set me back 300+ calories that I have to deduct from my dinner. I will run to the local store in the meantime and then start the roast in the pressure cooker.
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Pipsicle Enjoy your Christmas display. Sorry you are having such a problem but I definitely can relate. My main goal right now is to stay in the 180s through the holidays. A lot of people on the WW threads I'm on say they too are having problems staying OP during the covid restrictions.

Carol Sue I decided to take advantage of the 2 mos free WW membership just while transitioning to the SF plan. I do like it better plus I like using the Point Plus pts counting rather than the Smart Pts. My plan is to learn to cook mostly from the SF 0 pts food list. I also believe that some of the pts foods can become 0 pts if the whole serving is cut back. That is what I do with a lot of higher pt foods now. Example 3 crackers are 1 pt where as a serving of 5 is 2 pts. So I eat 3. A serving of the sliced ham I eat are 3 slices for 1 pt, but by eating 1 or 2 it is only 0 pts. So I feel like I am learning portion control at the same time. So I will not be using the free membership for long. I don't have any problem with tracking on my own as I did that for years. I hope to spend the next few weeks learning what higher pts foods I do like and plan for those by making myself a personal list of them with the pt count for quick reference so that I don't have to look them up any where. Then I can go this own my own. Most serving sizes on a label is for 2000 calories a day so by cutting them in half I'm eating more toward 1000 calories without having to count calories.

Weight is already coming back down slowly as it always does for me. Any way it is down .4 lbs at 189.2 this morning. I surely would love to be back down to 188 before Christmas day. I am planning all my meals around SF 0 pts so I should be able to do it. FBG is back under 120 so that is good too. I actually has no problem staying within 8 hr eating window yesterday and hope to be able to at least do an 8 hr window for a while.

I've been reading about the air fryer and I am looking forward to getting it. It will make it so much easier cooking FF foods.

Breakfast for lunch today. I didn't get hungry this morning until after 12 and it was too soon to eat since we will eat at 3 so I had a couple of thin slices of ham for 0 pts. So I hopefully will have a shorter eating window today but since I stay up so late, I will be happy if I just stay within the 8 hr. I'm not going to push eating shorter eating windows for now. My goal even for 2021 is to eat 3 healthy meals a day within 8 hr window. I want to be able to relax and enjoy my life without thinking about food all the time. That is one reason I like Simply Filling plan. If I can make this a lifestyle, I should be able to get to the place where it will be so much a part of my life that it won't be dieting any more so it will feel like I am just eating normally.

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The roast got done early so we ate early. I have to cook it for a shorter time next time but I'm learning. The pressure cooker cooks really fast. I had roast beef, a potato and baby carrots that cooked in with the roast, broccoli and cauliflower. I'm estimating my calories for the day as 1063 including the 3 cookies but I estimate how many oz of meat I had. I feel comfortably fullbut not stuffed. I'm not going to weigh again until Friday morning. I don't know what I'll be making Mon, Tues, or Wed. I just don't want to see a nine unless its on the end. LOL I don't want to be dieting anymore either Trish. I want to eat according to my needs.

I bought ingredients to make a cheesecake for Christmas. I haven't made one for several years. It is something I really like. I might try to half the recipe so there won't be so much. I only need a small piece.

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Hi friends: 156 today after my fast. I am making a small pot roast for me and DH today. It will be a 46 hour fast when I eat.

Carol: I am sorry DH sabotages you. You said you were not going to have breakfast, and he cooked it and shamed you into eating. DO you think he prefers you fat and doesn't want you to lose weight? Some people do that. I do wonder what would happen if you put it in the compost or trash, and what would happen in his head? These dynamics between you have had 40 years to get set.
When I say to DH, "35 years of experience tells me you are agreeing for now, but can't follow through, any suggestions there?" it does make him stop and think. Sometimes he will make a change, mostly I accept that I can't change him, I can only change my reaction. I don't know him so don't know if he means to sabotage you or not. Hope you can figure things out.

Trish: enjoy the time with WW and see what you can accomplish.

Pipsicle, this is forever, the changes we must make. It doesn't seem fair, but it is our reality.

Well friends: I will drop in and out this week, the knee is still bad, wearing a brace, and not walking the dog every time, taking turns with DH.

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Mad, DH definitely prefers thin women. He comments on celebrities who have gained. When we look at old pictures he will point out "Look how thin you were!" (135 or so). He has gotten used to me the way I am and has said that I'm not overweight except for my belly which is misshapen from my surgery. It IS where I carry my fat. For years he knew I was a foodie and he could lure me to do what he wanted with food. Example, the buffet at the casino. He knows I have been trying to lose this weight for years and has said I will never do it. I have to admit it does look that way. The day he made the breakfast it just looked so good and was right in front of me at a weak moment. I could not not eat it. But how hard is it to say "Do you want breakfast?". The funny part is, if I'm making something for myself I never think to ask if he wants some, but usually the things I make are something I know he won't eat.

This morning I told him no breakfast and he honored that, but did say "Do you want some bacon?" as he ate his. I declined and he let it go. Maybe the retraining of DH just has to continue. He might be redeemable.
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Carol Sue and Fatmad There are times that I wish DH would cook or help me cook. Hubby #2 had things he would cook and especially when we entertained. He was the one who cooked food on the grill outside when he was home. Since I am the cook, I have no one to blame for my bobbles when it comes to eating except when we eat takeout and I am learning to even work around that. DS Hubby does a lot of the cooking and many times he buys takeout on the way home that isn't diet friendly. He knows how to do different because years ago he, their DD and her 1st Hubby and DS went to WW together and BIL made Lifetime. They both need to do WW again, but I didn't say that.

The most amazing thing happened today on FB. I was checking my groups on FB and found one I was tagged to. It is a WW Purple support group that is different from what I've seen on FB before. It seems to be a take off from a Simply Filling group I had joined a while back but wasn't all that active. This new group has loads of info for both. There seems to be more groups springing up even a WW Air Fryer group which I also joined. Then I went over to WW to track and they have changed my WI day to Sunday. So I'm considering this a new start for me. I am not too sure what I will decide to do in the long run. I agree with what you said Fatmad. I am going to use this guidance from he new FB Purple group and see where it takes and enjoy the 2 free months. I'm thinking maybe I just haven't got the hang of it yet. If I can make it work for me, then I may not switch to SF.

Today I have used my 16 DSP and 4 WSP. So I'm good.
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I did not get on the scale this morning. I felt so good about the 189, I don't want to see 190 something and ruin my day. I want to hold my happiness in my heart a little longer. I'm hoping for additional good news on Friday. This is all I want for Christmas.

DH didn't always cook. When I met him he was living off donuts and French fries and he didn't cook the French fries, he got them at the local bar when he stopped for a beer. The only time he got a meal was when he went to his mother's. When I worked until 5:30 he started cooking dinner occasionally so we didn't have to eat so late. I used to cook my own breakfast but when he started cooking scrambled eggs they were the softest, fluffiest, creamiest scrambled eggs you ever ate. He cooks them in a pool of butter that makes them so tasty! I always use non stick spray which saves so many calories, but they are not as tasty. We go through a lot of butter. I used to make my own breakfast around 11 am and then exercise at noon. I would not exercise on an empty stomach. DH cooks at 9 am so that gives me a much earlier eating window. He doesn't understand that. I would prefer to eat breakfast at 11 and dinner at 3-4. If he has donuts or cookies he will eat that for breakfast with his coffee and I am on my own to eat or not to eat. One thing I do to him is every time he's eating I ask him what it is. I have to stop that because then he says, "Do you want some?". Most of the time its a sandwich. He only eats half and gives me the rest. I want to stop that indiscriminate eating. He says he's trying to be nice but if its extra calories that my body doesn't need it stores them as fat. Actually, I was supposed to be practicing the " No thank you" all along, but the food tasted good and it was nice that he wanted to share with me. Now there's a new Carol in town who wants to break those bad habits and eat like a normal person. And they were just bad habits. I was eating when not hungry and often it kept me from being hungry when dinner time rolled around. Being hungry makes the food taste so much better.

Once Christmas is over I am going to get back to exercising. I have to distribute these cookies, clean, go shopping for my Christmas ham and pork for New Years during the next few days. I'm looking forward to it. It will up my energy and it should help me sleep better, improve my blood sugar. I have had a lot more steps on my Fitbit during this baking spree. Its just moving around the kitchen but it adds up. Its movement compared to sitting in my recliner. Breaking bad habits and forming new healthier ones. I should have done this years ago but better late than never. I will take each day as it comes. I know that one screw up could put me in a spin that could last for weeks.

Trish, there is nothing wrong with going back and forth between purple and SF. Our bodies adapt easily when we do the same thing every day. They are both good eating plans and each brings good benefits to your life. You are lucky that your DH understands about nutrition and goes along with your food plans.
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I am reading a book called How To Lose Weight Naturally By Eating More. Lots of interesting information. I want to become a normal eater by not dieting. This book calls dieting "The feast or famine cycle.". Its theory is that your body holds onto fat because it doesn't know when it will receive more fuel. If you eat when hungry eventually your body will lose fat because it realizes it won't need it. It talks about how children eat. They eat because they get hungry. If they are not hungry you can't get them to eat. As they become adults they can be influenced by social behavior and can become over eaters.

It also discusses exercise. When some people hear that exercise does not contribute to weight loss they don't do it, but exercise makes physiological changes to the body that eventually helps with weight loss, fat loss and muscle growth. It increases metabolism which helps with weight loss or the ability to eat more. Trish, this explains how you earn exercise points on WW. And exercise is just movement. You don't have to be sweating or gasping for air to be beneficial. If you get a job loading sacks of potatoes onto a,semi, you are exercising.

The book stresses slow weight loss that is discouraging to some, but is more lasting. This might be a lot of gobblygook, but I have tried everything else. So this is where I'm getting some of my ideas.

I am not trying to sway anyone from doing what works for them, but these things have not worked for me, so I'm trying a new thing.

DH is up. He had cookies with his coffee and has not cooked or suggested that I eat. He is dressed and ready to go to the bank to do our Christmas shopping.
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We came home at 11 and had breakfast for lunch. DH is going for a rotisserie chicken for dinner.

Step son had to bring DGD to our town for a dentist appointment so we met in the drive way to exchange gifts and give them their cookies. That saved us from driving to their house, an hour away. Step daughter will pick up her cookies after work if she doesn't forget. That leaves BIL. Maybe DH will deliver his. Its not far.

3:00 pm DH wanted to eat dinner early so I had 1060 cals in a 4 hour eating window. I feel full but not stuffed. I will not eat again until tomorrow. I'm happy with the way these couple days have been and pray that I can continue.

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Well, I can't believe that I'm just now getting here today. DS was gone for 3 days and we seem to really talk a long time when she comes back home. They had a great time with her DD and SIL and I think it was just what they needed. She sounded great today. DH birthday is Christmas eve and turns out that BIL if off work Wednesday so we will probably go out for his BD steak on Wednesday. Maybe we can run by Walmart or the local store then too as I need to get ready made pie crust to make our NSA apple pie for Christmas day. I think that is all that I need.

Weight was still 189.2 this morning so that is good, but FBG was 123 which I'm not happy with. Maybe getting back to my exercise will correct that. I've already earned 6 pts and by the time the day is over I will have earned about 9. One thing that tracking on WW does for me is it gets me to exercising regularly. I did my 15 minutes calisthenics and 20 minutes on the bike and the rest is regular housework busyness. I hope to have 4 pts left over so I will get back the 4 pts I used yesterday. I want to save those for eating out Wednesday and Christmas dinner Friday. I've asked people on my new FB WW Purple group how if they use activity pts and how it works for or against them since I've never used them. I like to save them for errors.

Carol Sue It isn't always easy to not eat what DH eats but it can be done. I know that if DH is eating something I don't care for as much as he does that it is easy to say no if he offers it to me. My problem is when he is eating something that I really, really like that he doesn't even have to offer it as it becomes difficult for me to resist regardless. Those are the times I have to really be committed to leaving those things alone. Chips are like that for me. He did get to where he would no offer it to me, but I know I can have a few bites for little or no pts however, those are the things that I can eat a few bites o keep the pts very low or not count but then I caught myself eating a little more and eventually I was eating less of the healthy foods so I could eat the chips. I know it is best for me not to eat it at all.

The interesting thing about the little boys and the pigs in the blanket that I made is that the youngest one didn't like the bread around it so he would take it off and just eat the little sausages. I noticed that the oldest boy is starting to eat a little bit more bread than he used to. I wonder if we would have ever learned to eat a lot of bread if we hadn't been taught to.

Edited to change... I am going to use the Purple plan and tweak it as I see others doing who use SP to count. I notice some use their low/reduced fat as 0 pts foods but when they do eat foods that need to be counted they use the SP counts. So I will be checking the books to see what the original 0 pts foods were and which ones were counted and use it as my guide. Weill see how that works by 1/1/21. This seems to be a combo of Purple/SF plan which reminds me of when some of us did a combo of core/flex plans.

I've got French Onion Chicken breasts in the crock pot. This will be the last time I will cook it in the crock pot as I will have the air fryer to cook it in next time. I will add salad, a veggie and brown rice with it. I've been seeing some really tasty looking air fryer recipes YouTube and WW FB groups I want to try to.

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Trish, I'm glad you have such a good relationship with your sister. I have no one left. DH has a good relationship with his 4 brothers but we don't socialize with them. His youngest brother and wife come here for family get togethers but not the rest of them.

When DH was growning up they were allowed all the sweets they wanted. At dinner, his mother made a big meat and potatoes dinner every night. His father told her to always cook more than she thought they would eat because if there was no food left then someone might still be hungry. So there were always leftovers. No one was forced to eat more than they wanted or to clean their plate. I think that is why none of them ever had a weight problem. I didnt have a weight problem until DH wanted me to eat with him all the time. He is eating every time he turns around but does not eat a lot each time.

I am very interested in why some people have a weight problem but others never do.

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Still not getting on the scale. I'm afraid of seeing a bump up even though I think I'm doing well with food. Trying so hard to wait til Friday.

This AM DH asked if I wanted eggs at 9am. I said no, that I will eat at 11 like I did yesterday. But now that he ate, I'm starving. I'm not supposed to do that on this plan but I need to push this week to get a good head start. I think all of you understand this. I want to get firmly planted in the zone. Ill have another cup of coffee and hopefully that will hold me til 11. It will be just eggs because we have no bacon or sausage. I don't want to eat it every day. Just occasionally.

I heard from both families last night that they are enjoying the cookies. I don't usually give them to them until Christmas day. BIL picked his up this morning. He will devour them and be asking if there's more by Christmas. He loves his sugar! It makes me feel good to do something to make them happy, even though its not healthy. Its only once a year.

We are getting more snow and icy weather today. It looks like we will have a white Christmas as more snow is predicted for Christmas Eve.Cleaning is on the agenda today, starting with the bathroom.

Edit: Now that I've had breakfast, eggs and toast, I am experiencing the same old dilemma. I want more. My breakfast was enough, but eating always starts my appetite. I think it will go away and I will wait til dinner. I wonder if that will ever go away? I googled trying to find a cause but found nothing. Trish you said your Dad was like that and my SIL said she's the same.

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I shouldn't have gotten on the scale this morning because it was 190. FBG was good back down to 114. So that was good. I have no idea why my FBS was 126 yesterday.

I have decided to go with original plan. I will follow the simply filling list of foods and track only the pts that I need to count toward my 49 weeklies. I am not going to allow WW website push me to exercise so much. While I do need to move around, I don't need to exercise so much that I am starving all evening. I am not eating off at night but just too much. I think that caused the bump. I want to lean more toward a lower carb SF eating plan. I also know a structured diet plan makes me think I can eat 3 meals and even snacks because I have the pts. So I think I'm going to find that following Purple plan or any other "diet" plan is NOT going to work for me. I do better eating only when hungry.

Carol Sue I too like eating my breakfast. I had my eggs, toast and bacon this morning, but as I shared above, I had 2 eggs, 2 slice of bacon and toast because I had the pts. When doing SF plan, I would eat 1 or 2 eggs, 1 sl bacon and 1 sl toast and been satisfied. I realized later that I had forgotten to eat my banana so I didn't eat it because I really don't want to start eating outside a meal.

I do believe we are all in a learning process of works for us.. Even Fatmad is now in a learning process of what will and won't work for her as she transitions into retirement. I had a chiropractor in SC tell me to stop dieting because it doesn't work. I couldn't grasp that thought back then but I am beginning to. I am geared to eating healthy and eating only when hungry and I noticed that as I am eating more mindfully that I am leaving food on my plate to train myself to know that I do Not have to eat everything on my plate. I still have a problem with "am I really hungry" or 'I just think I am". I also remember my DC doc telling me "You may be eating too much healthy food". So we can eat healthy foods and still overeat on it too. I know the weight loss will be slower when we eat mindfully, but it isn't fast for me no matter what I do any way. So don't know how long I will continue the WW membership. It might just be wise to track on paper what I eat and add the pts that need to be counted. Whatever works. The only reason I kept it was because it is free and maybe I could learn as I transition to SF. I may be learning a lot more than I thought I would.

DH is tweaking his diet too because he is suddenly learning to recognize what causes his BS to be higher or lower. He actually had a low of 131 the other day. He said he now knows he cannot eat chips. I told him that I've seen online recipes for making them in the Air fryer so I'll try making healthy ones and see how it goes. I want to take advantage of our learning to do this together. I do notice that on WW that my FBG is not doing as well as it did before I started WW. Since keeping my bs under control is the most important thing to me then I will do whatever I need to do.

DH suggested I make Apple Crisp and there is WW recipe that is 2 pts so I think I will be making that instead of a pie. The only thing I will change is I will use stevia instead of sugar. No big plans except to go out to eat tomorrow with DS and BIL.

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Trish, you might have to adjust your eating to include an evening meal since you stay up so late, but I have found that evening eating raises my fasting blood sugar unless its eggs. Eggs are only protein and fat. Some say that a piece of cheese does not affect blood sugar. Only you know if your evening eating is really due to hunger.

I ate in a 6 hour window today. I think I ate beyond hunger, but not a lot. I'm trying to be easy on myself since I'm still learning.
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Carol Sue Congratulations on the 6 hr eating window. I did an 8 hr window.

I notice on looking at the Purple plan I'm on that it suggests eating smaller meals throughout the day. I really don't want to do that. My big meal (most pts) are eaten at our main meal because that is when I drink milk. I still don't understand why it is 3 pts for fat free. However, I did decided tonight to go ahead and count it. I think I'm going to try to adjust to counting and using most if not all the daily 16 pts. I had 4 I didn't use yesterday and I didn't use 2 today. We are going out for steak tomorrow for DH birthday and then there is Christmas day so I should be okay with this week with my pts. I never got an answer about people using their activity pts so I erased it and will plan not to use them. I want to save them for errors.

So I'm doing good at this time. I have room for improvement but like you said we are learning.
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