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Wannabehealthy 09-05-2020 01:00 PM

Diabetes and Pre - Diabetes Chat Fall 2020
 
Have you been diagnosed with Diabetes or PreDiabetes? Join us here to chat about the necessities of weight loss and dietary changes to control Diabetes.

You can review the Summer Chat by following this link.

https://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/dia...er-2020-a.html

Wannabehealthy 09-05-2020 01:18 PM

Summer went by so fast, complicated by the Caronavirus. He's hoping fall is better! Our temperatures have cooled a bit, making it easier to spend time outside, allowing us to open windows and doors for a breeze, give the air conditioner a rest before it's time to turn on the furnace. I hope winter takes its time getting here.

pattygirl63 09-05-2020 02:38 PM

Carol Sue You are probably right and it may be more of a psychological thing or it could be the fact that I know the blue plan better and am more comfortable with it. I know when I eat starchy foods that I need the accountability of counting pts and not 0 pts as on purple plan. However, I have more 0 pt veggies and fruit on blue and I would like to try to see if it is possible to do more of a lower carb on WW. I'm not sure it can be done but would love to try it.

Shaybelle 09-05-2020 02:58 PM

Carol - I turned off my fan today too. Its a bit nippy but I wont complain as I was sweating my butt off last couple of weeks. Winter here lasts quite a while so I'm in no rush for it to hurry up. Although its my favourite time of year now.

Patty - with WW since you choose our foods cant you simply print out a low carb veggies list and pick the ones that are low carb? If you like counting points with them can you add a little bit of butter to them? or something that has points to them?

Wannabehealthy 09-05-2020 03:58 PM

Trish, when I did WW I think I did blue but I just didn't eat any carbs, mostly protein and veggies. I lost well but could not stay on plan once the meetings stopped. I rarely used all my points. I mostly ate the same foods over and over so I didn't have to figure points. It's hard to figure points or calories when you cook from scratch. There is no label to scan. Anything I have to count doesn't work for me. Old fashion eat less and move more. I track my food after I eat and I naturally eat from 1000-1400 calories. Above that I gain.

Shaybelle, when it's cold you can always put on more clothes but you can only take off so much without getting arrested.

Shaybelle 09-05-2020 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Wannabehealthy (Post 5414768)
Shaybelle, when it's cold you can always put on more clothes but you can only take off so much without getting arrested.

Carol ~ LOL too true although topless females is legal here. Sometimes they protest topless but I have not seen any women exercising their right to go topless in public for just the heck of it.

Wannabehealthy 09-05-2020 09:34 PM

Not for me! I look bad enough with clothes on.

Wannabehealthy 09-06-2020 07:00 AM

I'm still at 190.6 this am but I got up early. Normally I get weighed around 7. I was reading that it really makes a difference what time you weigh. I have coffee as soon as I get up so I don't like to weigh after that.

I'm planning on a longer fasting period for a couple days, OMAD for 23 hours, or 20 hours with a meal and a snack. I hate the word snack because it brings to mind what we think of as snack food, chips, pretzels, baked goods. To me it will be a small meal, maybe 200 calories or so if I need something to hold me until dinner. We have been eating dinner really early, like 3pm. I'm not hungry yet. I'm still trying to only eat when hungry so the meals are too close together or too big. If not cutting meals they have to be smaller, more snack size. There used to be a plan where you count bites. The first few bites are usually the best and I just eat the rest because it's there. I could instead put it away in case I get hungry again. Each week I clean stuff out of the refrigerator that I saved but never went back for. That's an improvement over the person who ate it all the first time. Right now there's 2 pieces of Italian sausage that no one's going to eat and half a stromboli from yesterday. Although the dough is tasty, I might eat the meat and cheese filling out of it today. That could be a snack. Another thing I want to conquer is leaving food on the plate at a restaurant instead of taking it home. Restaurant meals are usually too big except for Bob Evans. Their meals are just right for me. I want to start learning how to waste food without worrying about the little kids in China. . LOL I wonder if the Chinese parents ever told their kids about the starving kids in America.

Looking forward to hearing from Pipsicle today.

Shaybelle 09-06-2020 12:33 PM

I'm 286lbs/ 129kg this morning. That was welcome. I'm on Day 4. I think the most difficult for me is the mental space right now. Rewiring my brain and my thoughts and attitudes toward food. I can deal with things as they only last a day. That has been my mantra. "You are fine. A growling stomach is not a bad state. Many people's stomachs growl everyday. The great thing about you is that you can eat whatever you want tomorrow." And then I carry on. Funny thing is when tomorrow comes I'm never hungry enough to binge. lol.

pattygirl63 09-06-2020 01:41 PM

You ladies in he north do have bad winters coming along. Living in TX now, we don't get really bad winters this far south. I do miss the winters in SC.

Shaybelle Thanks for your suggestions. I actually decided to stay with the Green Plan and not to worry about any of it. I did a lot of reading on the FB groups I'm on and I decided to just trust the plan. I did the blue plan yesterday and ended up with 5 rollover pts that I didn't use.

Carol Sue I had a friend years ago who would take a bit of food when he was hungry but didn't sit down and actually eat. He lost quite a bit of weight. I think it was so easy for him because he was in love with another friend of ours at church who is his wife now. So I'm sure that can work.
I don't think our eating food because of starving kids in China helped a one of them.

Well I did do the blue plan yesterday and weight is up this morning to 192 but not sure that has anything to do with the blue plan. I honestly think it is because I got up an hour later and I just weigh more later in the morning. But I went to bed at 1 instead of 12 so got up at 9 to get my 8 hrs rest. I'm trying to get more rest these days. Plus didn't have my usual bathroom moves so that probably has more to do with the weight being up so I'm not concerned about that.

I decided I like knowing my pts on the foods. Thinking of Shaybelle's suggestion, I can print out the 0 pt veggies and fruit and as the ladies on the WW FB group says, I can build my meals around those foods. One reason that I have decided to stick to Green is that I get 30 pts which means that I will have enough pts to have 0% fat milk for 3 pts since I absolutely hate nut milks. I'm not going o worry about the carbs all that much.

We are going to the store today because DS and BIL will be back home today and they want to go out to eat tomorrow. So KFC today, wherever they decide to go out tomorrow and then we are going out to eat after my eye exam Wednesday which isn't to great since WI is Thursday. So this won't be a wonderful week for WI day. However, this is the way that I can eat with DH and DS etc but I can still eat what I like and stay within my pts since I seldom eat outside of my Daily SP. I had a 4pt taquito for breakfast and I have the KFC all figured in and I still have 9 pts left for dinner or a snack. So all is good.

Looking forward to hearing from Pipsicle too. I hope she has had a good week.

Pipsicle 09-06-2020 02:16 PM

Confirmed loss in danger!
 
Welcome Shaybelle! Your mantra is fantastic!

I post on this thread once a week. I am in the pre-diabetic range and thought I was very slowly working my way out of it but progress has stalled currently. Additionally, I have a fist full of other endocrine and health problems. My plan is pretty personalized and I combine a lot of different bits. Basically, I try to create a calorie deficit each day, balance my carbs/protein (2:1), fast at least twice a week, and exercise everyday. For a year, my calorie deficit target was 250 calories and I lost 20 pounds. Then in May, I hit a plateau and am still floundering. I have increased my calorie deficit target to 500 calories.

That's the plan anyway. The balancing and fasting have really dropped off lately. Unfortunately, my subconscious mind is pretty temperamental and I have to make changes ridiculously slowly. If I don't, I go the wrong way and it takes me a while to get back on track.
Not much to report - still in my holding pattern. Better than gaining the COVID 19.

Fall thread results summary: https://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/images/icon/icon4.gif

Wannabehealthy 09-06-2020 02:53 PM

Nice drop Shaybelle! EOD seems to agree with you. I noticed a damper on my appetite on UD too when I did it.

Pipsicle, I'm glad you are sticking with this through thick and thin, no pun intended. I hope you are rewarded soon!

Trish, Enjoying time with family is important. You will stay within your points and the losses will continue. You have done so well with this. It's always an up and down thing and we all go through it.

Right now I feel like I'm starving. DH won't say what he wants for dinner so I'm afraid to eat something and then have to eat again. He won't just eat what I make anymore. I've had worse hunger. I'll survive. And hopefully I'll be rewarded tomorrow....or the next day. I only got <4 hours of sleep. I fell asleep twice in my recliner and the phone woke me up. Step daughter invited us over for a cook out and DH declined. I don't know why. Well, I do know. He wanted to go to the casino again and I don't. When he wanted to go on Thursday I suggested waiting until Sunday but he said no. He made his choice. So he's miserable. His miserable mood is working in my favor because I'm getting an extra long fast.




Wannabehealthy 09-06-2020 08:16 PM

We had Lachoy Chichen Chow Mein for dinner. Not the healthiest but he picked it. It was good but too carby. I exercised after dinner. Exercising in the evening is really hard for me. It's hard coming up the stairs afterward. But the stairs are a big part of why I'm doing it so the more I do it the better it should get. I really forced myself to do it and I felt better for having done it. I did 15 minutes on the bike, 5 minutes on the treadmill and 3 sets of 12 squats. I had poor form on the last set so maybe cut back to 10.

pattygirl63 09-06-2020 09:08 PM

Pipsicle I have read on one of the FB WW groups about all the ups and downs of the weight and how plateaus can last for up to 6 months and suddenly the weight comes off. They say weight can come off .2 lbs to 2 lbs a week. I don't think my weight has ever come off 2 lbs a week even when I was younger. It has a lot to do with our metabolism and of course, you have a lot of other health issues that works against you too. The main thing I see them telling us is to stick with the plan and don't give up because the weight will finally come off. I commend you for sticking with it and I pray you will see rewards for your hard work soon.

Carol Sue I'm not surprised that your DH wanted to go to the casino, but glad you got a break.

DS and BIL are back in town but I told her we would go out with them tomorrow unless they want to take the day to rest before BIL goes back to work Tuesday. I will plan BLT for tomorrow if we don't go out.

I used all my pts for today plus one of my unused rollover pts for this week and I'm finished eating today. I used the pts to eat 2 KFC thighs and had it with 0 pts Brussel Sprouts. I have an ice cream bar I like that I get from Walmart that is 3 pts. Then I had a 3 pts glass of 0% Fat milk. I had my yogurt and banana tonight for dinner. I have that with cinnamon and that cinnamon is making my FBG reading lower in the mornings. It was 100 yesterday and 98 this morning. So I am happy with the way things went today.

Shaybelle 09-06-2020 09:32 PM

Hi Pipsicle. I think you are approaching it like I would. You have to tweek it until it works again and sustainable.



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