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Old 07-22-2018, 10:21 AM   #181  
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Sounds like time for an xray Carol! The "giving way" sounds like arthritis, but sometimes physiotherapy helps enough.
Nice NSV this morning, its a little cooler today and not going to get hot, so I put on slack. Haven't worn them since early spring, and they were rather tight around the waistband. Today they are a bit loose! easy to do up! so nice.
Only treat last night was a glass of wine with supper. I will be done with drinking for almost 2 weeks now, and will wait until my next weekend off before I have any alcohol. Don't need the carbs or calories.
BIL visiting today for brunch.
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Carol Sue So sorry the knee is still giving you problems. It probably is time to see a doctor and find out what the problem is. I am wondering if your Hubby making light of it is fear. I suspect since he doesn't want to see a doctor about his on problems because he doesn't want to know anything bad is probably the same reason he seems insensitive to yours. He may just be scared of facing reality whatever that is. Been there done that one myself, although it doesn't keep me away from the doctor. When I first got on Medicare and could afford regular check ups, I laughed and old the first doctor I had "I never had any problems until I came to you and now you want to put me on medicine". I wonder if I didn't take better care of myself before just because I couldn't afford to be sick. LOL

Someone on CAD said they couldn't fast because the gain weight and another person said that Dr. Fung says that some people have problems losing weight with longer fasts because of the cortisol from the adrenaline causes them to release extra insulin. I found that to be interesting. I know when I tried to do long fasts that my blood sugar always went up. However, I also remember fatmad explaining that higher fbs was the liver getting rid of the liver and we have to just be careful to not eat more to replace it. I think that is why the Heller's originally had several ways to do CAD. Some people did like Rachel ate in the beginning with OMAD, some 1 RM and 1 CM or 3 meals and or up to 3 snacks as long as only one was a RM within 60 minutes where you ate your carbs and the other meals/snacks had to be low carb. Each person chose their own lifestyle of eating from those choices. They always stressed that if you ate your RM longer than 60 minutes you would release more insulin. They also stressed that some low carb foods like broccoli or a fat like bacon could be a problem for some if they ate it in a CM which I eventually learned to use my meter because of diabetes.

My FBS was a little higher this morning at 142 so I think it was because I didn't drink enough water and I think I may have gone over the 30% carbs yesterday. Today was WI and I am officially down 3.8 lbs since last Sunday. So I guess I am doing pretty good. Not sure how today will go as they are having my little great nephews 1st birthday party inside so we decided to go. My nephews Mama lives in another state, so I feel like I need to be there for him. We were the only family member at his oldest sons birthday party last year. I helped raise those boys so I think I need to go represent his side of the family. They usually have sandwich trays for the party and of course cake. Last year I ate off, but doing CAD I can eat close to OP. I will just try to eat off the tray about the same time as the cake being served.

I don't know how my FBS will be but I wanted to try to keep it down as much as possible before going for blood work. Now that it done, I will begin working better at getting it lower. I am going to try to go back to making my IF/CAD meals breakfast around 11:00 or 12 according to hunger and eat main meal around 3:30 on the days I am home all day and then on the days we are going to be eating the RM later, I will eat later although having my meals wider than 5 hrs apart doesn't seem to bother me. I read yesterday where someone on CAD eats her meals 12 hrs a part sometimes. She kind of does it more like you are Carol Sue by when she is hungry. That might work for me too as sometimes I don't want another meal after my RM. So I might could do a OMAD once or twice a week. I just want to keep doing what I'm doing with IF/CAD, but more flexible with a bit of an IE twist with it.

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Patty- The good news is I am still officially pre-diabetic (not diagnosed as having diabetes yet). Really hoping I can avoid the diganosis! The genealogy stuff is really interesting and glad you could find out more for your dad. Great job on the lower scale result!

Mad- Thanks for the info and explanations. It is always good to learn more. Congrats on the NSV!

Carol- I hope you knee(s) feel better soon!

My FBS was 103 this morning. I am exhausted though. At about 4:30 am, my tummy was really mad about something and I spent a half hour getting myself sorted out. I think it was a new container of cream. It tasted ok but I thought had an odd smell. When I am this tired I have 'energy seeking behavior', which means I am really drawn to high sugar foods and caffeine. That makes it tough to lose weight and improve BS. My overall goals are simple. Go to bed at a reasonable time, exercise, get some sunshine, cut out sugar soda, and keep calories below a certain limit. Today, I am going to try to keep to an eight hour eating window. If I can, I will be in a good position to do a 16 hour fast into tomorrow. I also read an article that said 12 minutes of daily walking is enough to prevent diabetes and may add that into my goals too.
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Fatmad - Congratulations on being able to wear those pants. You are doing great lady.

Pipsicle It is great that you are getting your bs under control so that you never have to be diagnosed diabetic. I hope you will be able to keep going that way. I wish I had been wiser when I got mine under control years ago and kept it that way myself.

Carol Sue I hope you have been able to stay off that knee some today and it is better this evening.

We went to the great nephew's birthday party. He was so cute. We wanted him to take a big bite out of the little BD cake they had for him but he wasn't very interested. After coaxing him, we got busy talking and looked up and he was headed for it and every yelled at those taking pictures to get a picture and scared the poor boy and he must have thought he did something wrong and wouldn't ever try it again. So we didn't get it. Then he fell asleep so we visited a bit and left. The food was low friendly so we were able to eat lightly and then I was too tired from the 110 degree weather so when we got home DH made himself some soup and I made me a chip and dip, a hot dog no bun and cake and ice cream very unhealthy RM. I stopped eating at 5 and will do my best to fast until RM tomorrow afternoon. I would love to have tomorrow be a OMAD. The good thing about today is that I did a 6 hr eating window although not as healthy as it should.
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We went to the casino today. I told DH I didn't want to go because my knee really hurt, but he didn't care, we went anyway. LOL Didn't do us any good except that we had free buffets. I have not been taking any pain med for the knee, but since it hurt so bad today I took 2 Tylenol Arthritis and 1 RX pain pill around 2 when we left the house. I did some walking, but not a lot. My knee didn't bother me except to be a little stiff after getting up out of a char, but I didn't think much of it. We didn't get home until 9 PM and my knee still didn't hurt. I was able to walk up the cellar steps very easily. It was around time for the pain meds to wear off but the pain has still not returned. Wouldn't it be great if it was gone forever! I highly doubt it.

I had 2 riblets and a pork chop at the casino buffet, along with a baked sweet potato and veggies....green beans and corn. I noticed that I'm starting to get full with less food. That's the whole idea!! LOL

Trish, I think the reason DH copped an attitude about the knee is because he doesn't want anything to interfere with us going places. He thinks if he makes light of it I will forget about it. It's hard to forget about pain. I was reading/watching an article about chronic pain. It said that most of it is not real, but just a message sent to the body via the brain and we can work at getting those nerve messages to stop. The brain seems to "remember" the worst pain you've ever had and continues to send that message to the body even after the actual injury is already gone. Something like the Phantom Pain.
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This morning, FBG was 116 and weight is 194. For some reason I just stay at the same weight, never a fluctuation at all, so apparently I am eating, drinking and excreting at the same rate ever day. LOL

I slept good, and straight through with no wake ups. Some nights I do that so well and other nights I toss and turn. I haven't taken anything for sleep for quite a while, and when I do, it's usually Tylenol. I try to only take pain medicine during the day when it's important for me to have some pain relief so I can do things. Most of the time I am relatively pain free during the night. Not too bad this morning.
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Carol Sue - I remember when my Grandmother broke her wrist. No one else was available to take her to the doctor to get it set so I was it and I was just a young teen probably hadn't been driving log. So maybe 16. Anyway when they set her wrist she moan and groaned so much that it was difficult for me to watch her go through it and the doc (he was our family doc and Daddy's close friend) turned to me and said, "She really isn't in that much pain, but when she was a young girl she broke her arm and she remembers that pain and thinks she is in that much pain". I remember thinking "sure doc, she is in pain". However, when my previous husband's Mother broke her wrist, I stayed with her because I could tell that her 2 big strong macho son's couldn't watch her go through all that pain, she didn't seem to in as much pain as my Grandmother was. So maybe there is sum truth in that. As my previous DH and his brother, I watched them pace that emergency room we were in and I knew they were trying to figure out which one was going to have to stay with her. They were both cops and had seen a lot of things and seeing their Mom go through this was not going to be easy. LOL I came to their rescue.

I'm glad you are pain free and actually I prayed last night for the pain to go away and stay away so I pray it is gone for good. As for you DH, I know my Daddy did the same thing with my Mama so please don't let your DH push you when you know you have to see a doctor about something. DH pushes me to go see about things too much some time although I am blessed to have his medical advise I can draw on sometimes. So there are times like last year when I saw he was really serious when he told me I needed an ambulance to go to the hospital. I told him I wasn't spending a thousand dollars to go, but I did go to the doctor the next day who sent me to the hospital. The only real advantage of an ambulance and spending that kind of money is that it gets you right in to the emergency instead of suffering while sitting in the emergency waiting room.

Well, I will never understand how weight loss and FBS really works. You are staying the same with your weight and with all my carby crap I ate yesterday because I was too exhausted to do anything else, I was down to 220.4 and my FBS was down 2 pts to 140. Sure wasn't the direction I expected it to go. The only thing that I can figure saved my tail is Intermittent Fasting. I did that within the 6 hr eating window. I'm taking Zertec generic right now because mold is up besides it being so hot and dry and I think last night was my 3 night to take it and I am still a little groggy which is how my cousin said it does you. From what she said it shouldn't feel that way the rest of the time. I certainly hope she is right because if she isn't I will sure have a talk with doc Friday because he told me to take it. I don't have time for groggy. I feel like I am a walking zombie and really have to struggle to make myself do what I need to do and I don't have time for this.

My day to go see Daddy so DH and I will go and my sweet hubby will have to fix Daddy's computer again. I don't know what he does to it. I hope he can fix it because Daddy said DS worked on it for 2 hrs and never could get it to work. It seems like he is the only one who fix it these days. I sure wish we could get him some hand exercises because they seem to be getting worse. Hopefully when we see the neurologist next month he will order some therapy. Medicaid finally accepted him and hopefully the facility will get him into that free therapy they told us about. Still waiting on the VA to come in and do something.

I'm attempting a 24 hr fast today if I can make till we get home from Daddy's. I originally planned to go and come right back, but DH needs some apples so we will go to that HEB over there so I can get my favorite bag of Veggie Medley salad. It is so easy to cut tomatoes and throw them into an already made salad. We will need to go to Sam's this week to get tomatoes so maybe we will suggest meeting DS and BIL for a steak when BIL gets off work and then go to Sam's after. Got a text from Walmart Rx this morning to verify if we wanted to refill a med for him and we can swing by there to get it at the same time since all that is within the same 5 mile radius of each other. I've been trying to drive less because of higher gas prices and I like to get it at Sam's because it is always lowest price.

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We went to the bank, stopped for breakfast and went to Goodwill, so now my knee is hurting a little bit. I was surprised at how well I was able to come up the cellar steps when we came home, though. I took 2 Tylenol Arthritis and will see how they work without the RX pain med. Now that the pain isn't as bad, I'm able to pin point exactly where it is. It starts when I first start to bend my knee, but after I go a little further it lets up and I heard/felt a little bit of clicking today. Once I get my knee completely bent the pain is gone. That is how I have been sleeping, with the knee completely bent, and I have no pain. I think it's important that I realize this, so that I can convey that to the doctor when I finally get in to see him.

A woman who works at Goodwill told me her 51 year old daughter passed out at work last week and when they took her to the hospital they found that she has stage 4 cancer all through her body. I can't imagine how she could not have any symptoms, but the woman said she would have some headaches and other aches and pains but did not connect it to cancer. You really can't go to the doctor for every little thing but how else would you know? And sometimes doctors miss things. This woman does not have insurance.

DH says I go to the doctor for every little thing, but really, I don't. I let things go for a while to see if they will resolve themselves, and sometimes they do. Sometimes, not.

Trish, I like tomatoes on a sandwich but not in a salad. When we eat out, DH always takes my tomatoes, and I take his cucumbers and peppers. LOL

I bought some therapy balls on a clearance table at Kohls. There were 3 balls in a package, and they are for hand therapy. They are soft rubber, and you just squeeze them. I guess they strengthen your grip. DH and my DGS like to play with them. LOL

Another thing about going to the hospital in an ambulance is they can treat you on the way, and notify the hospital that you are coming and your condition. That is important in a situation like a heart attack like I had in April. By the time we got to the hospital I was stable and the worst was over. They had me chew aspirins and gave me an Albuterol breathing treatment. My insurance paid all but $350 of the ambulance bill, and then I get $100 discount for being a member of the Ambulance Service, which costs $25 per year for a senior membership for both DH and me. Another thing I learned is that the membership covers a house visit, if you are having a problem and they just come to your home to treat you. Someone once told me they went to the ER in an ambulance but then sat in the waiting room for a couple hours before being taken. I have never heard of that. Any time you go in an ambulance at our hospital you are taken right in for treatment ahead of anyone waiting in the waiting room.

The past couple days I have been having problems with the left ear. It sounds like I have fluid in my inner year. That feeling is now gone, but I had an ear ache last night. I don't know what that's all about. I feel fine so far today. What else can happen? LOL
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after a great sleep on Saturday night, I was tired in the afternoon yesterday and had a short nap. Then had a terrible time getting to sleep last night. Was tired, and almost asleep at about 11 pm, then got wide awake and didn't get to sleep until about 4, and had to get up at 8. Full day of work.
I haven't eaten yet today, trying to decide if I should or not. And wanting to stay up late enough to go to bed at a near normal time and sleep through the night, or at least sleep for the night. The lack of sleep has me feeling down and crummy.

I have to start the CBT for sleep. I am not going to be successful at anything in my life if I don't sleep.

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Mad, I am sorry to hear you are having sleep problems. I had sleep problems during my last job. It was terrible knowing that I had to get up and go to work after little to no sleep, and worrying about that would just disturb my sleep even more. I have tried a few OTC sleep aids throughout my life but never stuck with any because I didn't like having to take something to sleep. Sleep should be a natural cycle of life. My biggest problem seems to be worrying about things during the night which keep me awake. It's a little better now that I'm retired because I CAN just go back to sleep and sleep late since I don't have to get up to go somewhere. I also try to stay off the computer in the evening to avoid the blue light. And eating less in the evening has been helping. I hope you are able to find a solution.

I can remember in my 30s when I would fall asleep right away and never wake up until my alarm clock went off. Even then, I had to keep my clock on the dresser across the room because if I could reach it from the bed, I would shut it off and fall back to sleep. Once I got up and walked across the room to shut it off I was able to stay up. I really wish I could sleep like that again!!
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Yes, of the last 4 nights, I have had 1 good sleep. Going to bed now. OMAD today, I was thinking of fasting longer, but didn't feel well, and was so overtired. Felt much better after a nice supper with DH, (zucchini noodles and spaghetti sauce, with parmesan) and we went for a little walk. While fasting is great, its important to eat too.
Hope we all have a good day tomorrow, and a good sleep tonight.
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Fatmad I pray you get a good nights sleep tonight.

Carol Sue I hope you are pain free. I agree that you don't go to the doc for every little thing. You are kind of like I am about things. I also try to find a way to take care of things myself and then if I can't I will talk to the doc about it some time, but not always because it has to be serious before I would make an appointment for some things.

I am very excited that I was able to make a 24 hr fast. I feel good about the fact that I could do it because now that I know I can do it, I most definitely will be doing it again. In fact, we are meeting my DS and BIL tomorrow afternoon around 3:30 for his birthday steak dinner so, I figure by the time we order our steaks and they serve us that I might get at least a 23 hrs fast so I may just do it again tomorrow. I'm thinking that I might do 3 days of OMAD and then do 4 days of 2 MAD.

I didn't take the Zyrtec tonight. I read up on it and it does cause tiredness and dizziness because it is antihistamine so I know how they do me so I don't think it will stop making me tired and sleepy. I will use it only if I have to, but I don't plan to use it much. I could have got that from the Benadryl. I need to feel more alert.

Headed to bed soon. I hope to get a good 7 hrs sleep tonight at least.
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Trish, I have some generic Zyrtec but I didn't notice that it made me sleepy or tired. It didn't seem to help with my allergy symptoms either, so I stopped taking it. I think my problem with allergy meds is that I don't take them consistently. I think you are supposed to take them daily, but I try to take them only when I have symptoms. Then I think they didn't work because I didn't give it time to get into my system. It's not the same as pain pills, which you take when you have pain.

My weight and FBG were both up today. Weight is up 1 lb to 195 and FBG is 147. That is still much better than I used to get a while back. It's because I ate some instant mashed potatoes last night. DH was telling me that his brother has been having digestive problems so he's going to start eating instant mashed potatoes. When he told me that, it made me hungry for them. I usually make mashed potatoes from scratch, but I keep a small box of instant in the house for times when I only want to make 1 serving. If I didn't have them in the house, I would have been better off. I didn't eat because I was hungry.

I am doing the fasting when it fits into my life, not on any set schedule. If I am busy I don't think about eating and I don't get hungry so it turns into a fast. Mine are usually breakfast and a small lunch, which gives me a 20 hour fast. This is what works best for me right now. It could change at any time. LOL
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slept better last night. Now to turn that into a few good sleeps in a row, instead of an occasional treat. Not working today, have a dentist and optometry appointment scheduled. Seems like my weekdays off are turning into medical appointments all the time. I will have time for a nice walk in there.
Glad you are finding ways to do some healthy IF in your eating plans. I was happy with last night, because I didn't over do the meal, just a normal sized meal, instead of trying to make up for a day of not eating by eating too much.
Going to try the CBT apps for the next week, and if its not helping, will call the counselling centre for a CBT therapist.

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fatmad - Glad you got a good nights sleep and hope you get some more hopefully consecutive nights.

Carol Sue - It is funny but I think I learned from the incident with they Generic Zyrtec to do what works for me in spite of what the doctor tells me just like I do when I refuse to take certain meds he think I should take when I disagree with him. The said thing about the Zyrtec is that I really didn't have to take it if it was just for the antihistamine as I have plenty of Benadryl and could have taken it. I would have known not to take it on a regular basis but to take it as needed. I read online that the 24 hr Zyrtec is timed released so all day long it is releasing antihistamine into my system so I can only imagine how long it is going to take me to get it out of my system since it take a full day and a half to get a 4 hrs worth of antihistamine from Benadryl out of my system. I am hoping the fasting will help push it out sooner. Any way, I'm not taking any more and haven't since Saturday night.

I am out of the 220s only by .2 lb toe 219.8, but I will take it. My FBS was 141 this morning not quite sure why it is hanging around there, but I did think about what fatmad said about the liver getting rid of the extra glucose while fasting so I am going to consider it a good thing. Like you Carol Sue, I am thankful it isn't higher like it used to be. I am still taking the statin and as long as the FBS doesn't go any higher I will take it for now. I'm hoping to get the triglycerides down with diet and exercise so maybe I can eventually come off that too. In fact, I would love to get so healthy I could come off all medicines. It is possible, but will have to see how that goes.

I like the fasting and the benefits. I think to confuse the body into not knowing what if we are dieting or not, I will do a mixture of some OMAD and some 2MAD. Today we are meeting DS and BIL for a steak dinner and going shopping so this is going to be a OMAD. Tomorrow is busier because we go to meet Daddy for his CHF appointment so it will be a 2M day. I will take the rest of the day as it comes. I don't want to plan ahead too much because things change according to hunger and according to activities. I'm just happy to finally have the scales going in the right direction and I trust that the scales and FBS will come together somewhere along the way.

Have a great day everyone.
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