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Trish, I have seen a couple sites online that have a calculator for SP foods. I also have a WW scale that calculates your food for you, if it's something in the database. I just bought it to use as a food scale and have never used it to calculate points.
I'm glad to hear you are having good success with this, and I hope your Dad and Sister get on it with you. And also your DH.
Yesterday I was reading about body water. It said that as you lose body fat, the fat cells replace the lost fat with water. Then after a while, when they realize the fat is not coming back, the cells release that water and that's how you get a whoosh. So you can be doing very well but not showing a loss for a few days. Unfortunately, a good day does not necessarily reflect a loss the next morning. But it will come if you just keep following the program.
When I was in Overeater's Anonymous we planned our food either the day before or 1st thing in the morning. We did this so we could call our support sponsor to let her know our plan which was done make our commitment. I still like to make my plan early each day when I can because it makes it easier to keep up with the points or calories for each day. It also helps keep me on track. I have heard of some people who plan a week in advance but that isn't me because I like to eat what I appeals for me the day I'm eating.
I just put my plan for today on WW and I notice on days we eat either chicken or fish, I cannot eat all my points. I am going to have 6 pts leftover today of which 4 will be rolled over into weekly points. This will help me since we are going out to eat or will purchase something to bring home after we go shopping tomorrow. I'm not buying fast food as much right now plus DS said this morning that as the weather gets cold and wet, we won't be going out to eat as much in the mornings either. This will really help me with my diet plan too.
I will probably lose a lot of points each week, but I do not want to eat just to use all my points. As long as I'm not hungry, I'm not going to do that any more. For one thing, those extra points will be there each week for when I want something that is higher points. Even then I don't want to use a lot of them either. I would lose points than eat just to use them.
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Trish, when I went to meetings, there were some ladies there who said they never ate all their points. It's not wasting them. You get more tomorrow. LOL It's not the same as putting them in a leftover container in the refrigerator. LOL I think if you are full, you are full. People are all different, and we are different from day to day. You might have days when you run out of points and are still hungry. So you have some weeklies.
For two days now I haven't been able to get my blood sugar down. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I really don't think I'm eating that many carbs....not more than normal. I don't like to take extra Glimiperide after dinner. A couple times I did that and got a low during the night. Sometimes it seems like the Glimiperide is not working, then all of a sudden I get a big drop.
Today, I cooked steak for DH and Salmon for me. My salmon was so good. I cooked fresh green beans with it and made mashed potatoes for DH, of which I sampled, then put the rest down the disposal. I forgot that we went to Texas Roadhouse yesterday and DH had steak there, too. LOL He didn't say anything about having it again, so I guess he didn't mind. Every once in a while he will eat salmon, but not often. I had ribs at Texas Roadhouse. I haven't had them for a long time. No potato. I was proud of myself for passing on the baked sweet potato. I just had vegetables.
We will probably have fish from somewhere tomorrow. And we are not going to the casino this weekend so I have my other turkey defrosting and will cook that either Saturday or Sunday.
I have not had leg pain for a few days, and I can make a fist with both hands. They are a little puffy and tight, but I can make a fist.
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I am still struggling with my blood sugar. I just don't feel that my reading are in line with the amount of carb I am eating, but maybe something else is coming into play, like stress, or this lingering cold. I've heard that both can have an effect. It was over 200 before I went to bed but I was afraid to take more meds. I woke up around 3 so I tested and was at 156. I thought "Good, it's coming down." Well when I finally got up this morning it was back to 203. So I took a Glimiperide. I didn't eat anything until now, and when I tested before eating it was 178, which is better, but not what it should be. I will drink a lot of water, and not eat anything else until supper.
Carol Sue I know bs readings are still a mystery. DH had a 191 the other day and thought maybe the Fraxiga wasn't working as will as the Jardiance did. The last 2 days it has been much lower. My FBS was 141 this morning. My weight was up almost another lb. I thought the FBS would be lower but it wasn't.
I made myself a chicken salad last night, but it didn't keep me from getting hungry later at night. I made the mistake of eating a late snack because I was hungry. I don't usually do that. I think the lesson is for me to continue eating only 2 meals and a snack. By body doesn't need more food even if I'm a little hungry. I did eat within the points with 1 rolled over to today. I do believe you can over eat and stay within pts if you eat more than you need.
I had 39 weekly points as of today. Since we are eating out, I am using some of them, but I will still have more than 30 left. My WI is tomorrow so I assume that I will lose them and start over tomorrow for next week. I do not want to use any more or at least not much more pts than I have planned now. If I do get hungry, I will have to use veggies. In fact, I am thinking about having a light meatless meal in the evening to get more veggies, but no heavy 0 pts foods.
Getting ready to leave again when DH gets ready. Have a good day
fatmad and loserbug I hope y'all are doing okay and will check in when you can.
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Blood sugar was back over 200 by the time we went for supper, so I took more meds. We ate supper around 3:30. I ordered fish and mac. It is a special, and you are not allowed to substitute something else for the mac. I ate the fish and a couple bites of the mac, but no rolls. Those rolls are so good and it was all I could do to not eat one, but I was successful. Now, two hours later, my blood sugar is 189, and I'm hoping it goes lower by bedtime. I think I am so paranoid about this blood sugar that I'm testing too often, and not giving the meds time to do their job. When I finally get it down to a reasonable number I vow to work harder at keeping it there. There is part of me that doesn't want to accept that my body can not handle starchy carbs. Because others can eat them and not have a problem, I think I should be able to, too, but we are all different. This is my issue and I have to accept it. Maybe someday, if I get my weight down and my insulin resistance under better control, I will be able to go back to them occasionally.
I am trying not to take more meds that I am prescribed. I can double up and still be within the max daily dose, and maybe I should do that in times like this where it gets out of control. I just don't want to get into that habit and have to increase my dose. A couple weeks ago I was getting good numbers and only taking half my dose. I don't know what changed.
Carol SueSorry about the high FBS. For me, I think I have to control how much starchy carbs I eat too. I really need to eat less than 5... more like 3 only.
DH changed the eating plan to Chinese tonight. We ended up getting sweet and sour chicken. I don't eat the sauce. I didn't know how to count it on WW so I used their count for orange chicken estimating. DH got a chocolate crème pie and I ate half a serving, but I don't think I will eat any more of it. I would rather have my SF FF Jello Instant pudding for 1 pt than waste 11 pts on half a serving of the pie.
I changed my WI day back to Monday. Unlike many people, I eat less on the weekend so I would much rather have my WI day on Monday. I checked my bs just before I ate tonight and it was 119. Since I hadn't eat for several hours when we got ready to eat tonight, I decided to check just to see how things are going.
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Trish, it is not only my FBG that is high. My readings are also not going down throughout the day. I have had this problem in the past. If I eat something that gives me a spike, it stays high for days, not just hours even with meds, then out of the blue it will drop. I wish I knew why it does that. Last night it finally went down to 125 at bedtime. I was happy to see that, but I woke up at 4AM and it was 198, so I took my morning Glimiperide then instead of waiting until I ate. What I read before said that the DP causes blood sugar to rise in the morning when you're ready to start your day. Well, I wasn't ready yet. LOL I also feel like I'm getting a UTI, so if I have an infection, that could affect blood sugar too. This is so much fun.
The way Dr Fung explains insulin resistance is that the cells are already full of glucose and just don't want to take any more in, so it builds up in the blood. He compared it to garbage. If you don't put your garbage out for the garbage men to take, it builds up and starts to overflow everywhere. Once you can get rid of all the glucose in your cells, they will take in the glucose that accumulates in your blood to be used for energy.
I used to get Sweet and Sour chicken all the time, when we ordered out for lunch at work. At the Asian station at the casino, they usually have Orange Chicken or General Tso's and I will occasionally have a piece of that. I used to like the fried rice too but I stopped eating that. I make it occasionally at home using cauli rice. I am the only one who eats that. DH does not eat Chinese. He likes his meat, potatoes and veggie all separate, and he does not like sauces of any kind except gravy.
When I was single I hardly ever ate on weekends unless I went to my mother's. My weekend calories were usually from alcohol. LOL Now DH likes to eat out on weekends. On Sunday I am cooking a turkey so we will have leftovers from that next week, too. We sort of missed out on Thanksgiving. My company took all the leftovers home. DH always tells them "take whatever you want" and they do! They use it for lunches for work. Some things I am glad they take, but I like to have turkey. We like Turkey A La King. It will be nice to have this turkey without the pressure of entertaining.
I'm up really early today. I have to make up a shopping list so I can go early, then I want to get caught up on laundry, as long as DH doesn't have other plans.
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My turkey is in the oven. It is the first Honeysuckle I have had in years, so I'm looking forward to seeing if I notice a difference from the no-name turkeys I usually have.
My blood sugar seems to be back to normal...my normal. Last night before bed it was 127 and this morning 168. Too high, but well below 200. I have been snacking on celery the past couple evenings. I wonder if that has anything to do with it. I know celery is known to lower blood pressure, but I don't know about blood sugar.
Yesterday I was reading some articles about diabetes. Interesting, but I don't know what to think. One stressed the importance of eating breakfast. I eat breakfast, but it's closer to lunch time when I eat it. I think they are talking about breakfast when you first get up. Here is the link if you want to read it.
Like I said, I don't know what I believe. This goes against what Dr Fung teaches about IF. The only thing I can say is that skipping breakfast has not helped me lose weight or lower blood sugar. My only problem is once I eat a meal, it stirs my appetite.
Here are some links to the other articles, about walking, vinegar, etc.
I came across all this while searching to get information on what could be causing my high blood sugar other than carbs. It didn't actually answer my question. I'm thinking it was the cold that did it.
Carol SueI will look up those links later when I have time. Getting ready to go meet Daddy and DS for breakfast.
I ended up with only a .6 lb loss this week on WW, but I consider this past week a learning process and I didn't do that well with the eating. I'm hoping this week will be better. FBS was 154. I'm switching back to 3 berberine and 4 cinnamon. I think the bererine curbs appetite and cinnamon helps with the weight loss. We'll see.
I'm going to make this kind of quick because I want to get my 20 minutes on the stationary bike done this morning before I leave. I just feel better when I do it in the morning... seems to set the day for me. I'm going by the store when I leave Whataburger and get some more veggies.
I have decided to go back to doing my modified version of CAD. I say modified because I do eat some of the veggies the books don't allow because to the new information we have on them such as carrots. I'm on a new week so I am going to do my best to do really good this week. I am cooking Christmas for my Daddy, DS and BIL and us and I can plan it wihin the guideline of original CAD as well. I'll be wiped out after but I'll still be on plan.
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Trish, a loss is a loss. It was your first week on the plan, but not the first week of dieting, so you are not going to get the same drop as someone who is just starting out. I read so many posts on so many forums, and it amaze me how some people stay on plan so well, but still struggle for every fraction of weight loss. And there are others who are dropping 2-3 lbs steadily. I don't get what the difference could be. I know for me, I have really changed my eating habits and although I do not gain, I also don't drop. At least not without a very heavy effort, which is hard to maintain.
Personally, I don't think CAD is a good plan for you. You tend to eat too many carbs at one meal. As an observer, it seems you do better when your carbs are spread out through the day. Just a comment, and not being a loser, I have no room to talk, but I thought you might want to know what I think. It is your decision in the end.
I was watching the last session of the ITHRIVE program last night. The program was centered around plant based whole foods. This doctor Wes Youngberg talked about how low blood sugar is not a good basic for considering your diabetes under control. He said that animal protein may lower blood sugar but it does not do well for Insulin Resistance. This program sounded very convincing, but animal protein is such a big part of my life and I can't imagine changing that. It certainly hasn't helped my weight loss. I wish I had what it takes to at least try out plant based eating for a short while to see what happens. No eggs? No pork chops? No chicken? I like veggies, but I don't see it satisfying me exclusively. Another speaker on the program was a psychologist specializing in eating disorders. He said to make your food plan as boring as possible so you won't be eating for pleasure, but only when your body needs fuel. Everybody has a gimmick and I feel that I have tried them all. LOL If I don't get pleasure from what I ate, I tend to keep eating, trying to find something that satisfies. These "experts" need to talk to the patients, and see what food related issues they actually have.
DH bought some new candy at Dollar Tree and raved about how good it was. I tried a piece and almost spit it out! We all have our own opinions.
Carol Sue I think you are probably right about the spreading my carbs over the day rather than once day on CAD. I think I will continue just following the WW plan the way I have been.
I personally believe that what I eat on a diet plan needs to be food that I really enjoy rather than boring. I know me. I would end up eating everything in the house because I would never feel satisfied. So I am just going to go ahead and do what I'm doing. I am in the process of trying to see what foods that I really and truly like and then fit them into my daily points allowed. I will use those to create my daily menu of only the foods that DH and I like to eat and enjoy. Then I plan to use my weekly points for days when I want higher pt counts for either eating out or I want a higher pt treat.
I also agree that a loss is a loss no matter how small. I would much rather be losing even a small amount than not losing at all. I after all I haven't been consistently losing for years. I've just been moving up and down with the same lbs for the past 3 yrs if not longer. I will take any weight loss I can get and trust the WW plan hoping to consistently lose.
I still have 10 more minutes to on the bike today as I only had time to do 10 this morning. I also counted the time in the store as part of my exercise, but I count that as extra not the actual exercise.
I went ahead and had the taquito at Whataburger and I only ate about 3/4ths of it to keep the pts down. I decided to have fish or chicken the days I go eat at Whataburger because they are 0 pts. So today we are having cod fish with salad and broccoli. I got some shrimp and a bottle of shrimp cocktail sauce and I will have a serving of that for supper with a finger salad of celery, carrots and radishes. I'm hoping I won't need anything else. I should end up with a couple of pts.
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I am the same way with wanting my food to be enjoyable Trish. When I think of people who never have a weight problem, they just make/order what they want. They would never think of eating something that didn't appeal to them.
I had some leftover turkey for lunch today, an I ate too much and felt stuffed. DH made a burger and fries for himself for dinner and I just didn't eat. I still feel stuffed. I don't know if not eating dinner will help my blood sugar, but when I was thin an lived alone I rarely ate dinner. I had no weight problem and no diabetes, high blood pressure...took no meds. Those were the days.
I know that I lost my first 20 lbs, from 217 - 197 in the months after my heart surgery in 2008, and I have been bouncing up and down the same 5 lbs ever since. To be truthful, now that I think about it, I went down to 181 after my bowel surgery, but that was due to extreme medical conditions and as I healed, the weight came back on, but those original 20 lbs never came back. As much as I want to lose, I don't want to do it by being sick.
I'm not doing vey well right now. I have got to decide what I really want and what I want to do. I did great when I first came out of the hospital because I was used to not eating snacks. I don't think I can eat more than two meals a day. I need to stop eating after main meal with DH. I've been eating something at suppertime to keep from being hungry later, but it is backfiring on me. Once I eat supper, it seems to just prime me to eat and eat and eat. Maybe I should go back to just eating 2 meals with the idea that if I really do experience hunger, I can have a small snack that is just enough to satisfy that hunger and no more. I need to go back to that rule. If I don't, I'm never going to be successful at losing weight or keeping blood sugar under control.
I'm not sure WW freestyle is helping me or not. Maybe I don't have to follow any particular diet plan. Perhaps I just need to eat 2 meals and a possible snack period. No other diet rules. I'm not going to stop the WW yet. I know some of what I am feeling can just be disgust with me. I will continue to track on WW site. I have until January 5th paid up and may even continue another month after the first of the year and see how I do. I think perhaps some structure is better than nothing. I think this structure keeps me from gaining more and more. Right now I feel like I'm just maintaining. For now that is better than gaining just not as good as losing.
I actually began to ask myself today... do I really want to lose weight and get healthier or not. I think I need an attitude adjustment.
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Trish, I know you need to decide what works and what doesn't. It doesn't have to be some specific plan. I don't think we can find any one plan that fits every criteria for us. We have to just find what works and do it. It might be picking and choosing a little bit from each plan. You could also look back through the threads and find the time period when you were doing the best and see what you were doing then. I know you want to lose weight and get healthier, and you will. You're just stuck right now. In a day or so, you will be back on track.
For myself, I know that strictly limiting starch and sugar keeps my blood sugar in line. Eating lots of veggies lowers my weight. So I have to find a way to combine those 2 to make it work. I don't want to cut out meat because I like it, but maybe I need to limit it. And I have to stop eating this ding dang candy DH keeps buying!! For a long time I didn't touch it. I don't know what got me eating it again.
My FBG was 169 this morning, so it is coming down slowly. I haven't been on the scale, but I don't feel like I'm doing well with that. If I don't look at the scale, I won't know for sure that my weight is up. I have been reading a lot of forums. I look at people's stats and see these people who are weighing in the 120s or 140s and think to myself "Why can't that be me?" Well, it's because I'm not doing what it takes, whatever that is. Like you I'm wondering just how badly do I want this, but I know I do, and I know you do too.
