About prescriptions, I didn't know until the last few years that you can go to manufacturer websites and get savings cards for many RX. My dh has one for farxiga and pays $25 for 90 days I believe. I had always thought it was based on income and that is not the case. All my injections novolog, trojou, victoza I have cards for also. You mentioned the expense with prescriptions, didn't know if you were aware of that option. Its super easy only a few questions and print card and save. I do know its different if your on medicare or Medicaid, I think I was told you could use the savings card but only if you didn't use the other...if you paid cash without the medicare/Medicaid but don't know how much it costs like that. Just thought I'd toss that out there incase.
DDD stands for Delay Don't Deny the book is written by Gin Stephens. She describes how she does Intermittent Fasting and explains her journey to success. I use some of her ideas. She has done a lot of research and she shares what she has learned in a simplified way so I can understand it better than I can reading the books with medical terms etc.
LoserbugThanks for the info. I checked that out on one of our meds, but it read like we didn't qualify because we are o Medicare and we have Part D. I'm hoping in January we can get them again. I am hoping some of DH meds are older so they won't be as expensive as the new ones he was on. I'm hoping since Victoza has been around longer than Trulicity is that it might cost less too. However, if I can keep FBS coming down and keep it down, I won't need it. So far DH gets his refills as samples from the doctor until we come out of our GAP.
I had a good eating day. I'm back to 2 meals and 1 very small snack. I will just plan to do that from now own. I can live with this. Don't know if I will get out tomorrow or not. It is supposed to be cold and rainy. If it is we won't get out.
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Trish, I forgot about DDD Delay Don't Deny since I have not read that book. I find it amazing that there's a book I have not read. I am finding it harder and harder to do IF with a window. My windows just don't stay closed. LOL I think today I am going to try to start back on JUDDD. I should say I'm going to, not that I'm going to try. I think I might do better if I fast all day and then just eat dinner on DD. I seem to have done 3 or 4 UD in a row here, so it's only right and fair that I should start with a DD. I know my rotation will get messed up when the weekend comes when we are going to the casino, but I will do DD as much as I can and if I miss one or get out of rotation then I am not 100%, but it's better to be 80% than not at all.
Loserbug, I am also on Medicare and can't use the offers by the manufacturers. I don't know why that is. It doesn't seem fair. All the meds I take are generic so I don't have a copay at all for them, except if I buy them at the local pharmacy, then I have a small copay. Most of them I get from mail order. I am trying to get off my med for Diabetes and just control it with diet and exercise, even though exercise is nonexistent for me right at the moment, but I have good intentions. My mother used to tell me that the road to **** is paved with good intentions. LOL
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Trish, I cannot do the test with the coffee regarding my blood sugar today. I woke up at 4 am and my blood sugar was over 200, so I had to take some Glimiperide. It's very strange. I woke up and was unable to fall back to sleep. Tossed and turned for a couple hours so I got up. After taking the med, I got online for a while, then went back to bed around 6 and slept good until 10. I'm now thinking that high blood sugar might be why I wake up and cannot go back to sleep. Some nights I sleep great, and am thinking that's the nights my blood sugar is good.
When I was online this morning I was reading extensively about JUDDD. I found something about protein cycling. Every other day you eat completely void of protein. It's mostly vegetables and fruit that only has scant amounts of protein, plus fat, so you can have a big vegetable salad, as much as you want, and put dressing on it because most dressing doesn't have protein or you can have cooked vegetables, which is my preference and I could put lots of butter on them. It seems that it doesn't matter if you go over the DD calories as long as you include no protein. It does the same thing. That might be easier for me than trying to stay under 400 calories, because if I get hungry I can eat vegetables. I stlll might not go over the calories by much but the veggies would be filling at least. So that is my goal for today. I did not have my beloved eggs this morning and will have some cooked veggies for lunch.
Carol Sue I didn't have the black coffee either. While I like some of the infor I read on DDD on FB, I've decided to go with what works for my body. I had to laugh at you saying "I forgot about DDD Delay Don't Deny since I have not read that book. I find it amazing that there's a book I have not read". If you and I had the money two of us have spent on diet books we would be rich. LOL
This morning my FBS was 152. I took 1 Berberine and drank actually drank 2 c of coffee with Splenda and 1/2 & 1/2 (full fat not FF) and bs reading was down to 135 when I got ready to eat breakfast. As I have learned lately, I do better with some carby foods in my food plan. I will do my best to keep them between the 3 - 5 servings. While I'm impressed with Gin Stephen's journey and research in her books, I find it interesting that after she has all these she has never followed the strictness of her plan she gives us 100%. I don't mean to criticize her because she has helped a lot of people, but I really think she should have said up front that this worked although she didn't do a 5 hr window consistently. It makes people feel like failures when they think others are following a plan 100% and they can't. This makes them give up.
The lady on CAD has always said that she didn't follow the plan 100% of the time. She always said she knew this made her lose weight at a slower pace and she could probably lose faster if she did better. However, it worked for her and that was what mattered to her.
I don't think the DDD lady ever was diabetic and I'm not sure if the CAD lady is either. So I've decided to take what I've learned and create my own plan. Remember, my S.C. doctor never understood why my bs went up after eating certain carbs like oatmeal, etc. He finally said to me one day, "I'm thinking you might be more Insulin Resistant than diabetic". I'm begining to think maybe doing this the way Dr. Julian Whitaker's book says to do it while taking the Berberine has corrected something in my system to make it start handling the carby foods the way it should. Remember the diabetic educator and nutritionist told me that if I kept eating the way I was that eventually it would turn around. And I wasn't even taking the Berberine back then. I think I read that sometimes it takes 3 months taking it to see a change. I think I have probably hit that 3 months to so maybe I have finally gotten to that turnaround point.
Carol Sue, you have always done very well with veggies because you love them so much. Perhaps altering the protein/no protein days just might work for you. I do like the JUDDD, but it just doesn't seem to fit my lifestyle. I think using IF with the LC for Dummies guidelines just might be the way for me to go. We have both learned over the years that One Size doesn't fit all therefore I believe we just have to figure out which way to go for us as individuals. I always remember my SC doctor telling me the key to controlling diabetes is finding the a way of eating that can become a lifestyle. I think this would fit my lifestyle as it is now.
I logged my calories etc on MFP today and while my total carbs are 78 g only 30 g are countable according to the LC for Dummies. I decided to us the guidelines of this book because it is also the way diabetic educators/nutritionists say count them. I do not subtract the fiber as we did with other lowcarb plans. I will continue to stay as close to the 8:16 IF ratio as possible, but last night I was a little past the 8 hrs. However, I am still going to try to stay within the 8 hr window although I have read that women do better with a longer window of 9 so I am not going to worry if I go over once in a while as long as it doesn't become the norm. I don't really want to do more than 8. In fact, today I decided to actually add a small dinner for myself around 6pm in order to keep from getting hungry and going over the 8 hrs.
I have 2 chicken leg quarters I am going to roast for our main meal which will include a salad with dressing and crackers, steamed broccoli/cauliflower blend and 2% milk. Dinner will be a 3 oz nuked potato with 1/2 cheese wedge, enough steamed broccoli for taste and butter. I did have my eggs, bacon and toast this morning. Using MFP I was able to keep this to a little over 1500 calories and total carbs of 78 g. Since I want to be careful with the sodium as well, it is under the 2300 mg MFP says to stay under.
DH niece-in-law is a diabetic and diabetic harmone nurse/nutrtionist. She posted on FB she had just read a research result saying not to have caffiene until after 9:30 am. It has something to do with the cortisole harmone. I will go back and see what she said and share it with y'all. We might be able to google it and see if it has been made public yet.
Boy I wish I didn’t work in hormone profession as now I won’t drink caffeine prior to 9:30 AM as a study released shows it decreases your endogenous cortisol level. Save your adrenal glands folks and don’t drink caffeine too early!
I also found this article that is quite helpful although it does not say anything about the timing of drinking caffiene...
Oh my gosh, again with losing a long post. I think it's logging me out and then when I log back in it's gone. I think it's posted, but it's just gone. Guess I need to take less time typing so that I don't get logged out
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Trish, the worst thing about all the diet books I've bought it 3 of them I apparently didn't want and donated them to the library, and then when I decided I wanted to read them again I had to buy them again. They were Atkins 72, Protein Power, and How I Gave Up Carbs and Lost 40 Lbs, buy Dana Carpenter. LOL Now I have donated some others to the library, but they are diets that I know I will never follow, because now with the diabetes I know I have to eat low carb regardless. Too bad we don't live closer or we could share our books.
I think a person becomes Insulin Resistant and then it leads to diabetes. They say you don't start having it when you are diagnosed, but it begins years before. I remember once we had a Health Fair at work and they tested for BS and cholesterol. They guy told me my BS was 122 but said "You probably ate this morning." But I hadn't eaten in the morning, because I knew I was going to the Health Fair on first morning break. So I was pre-diabetic at that time but didn't do anything about it. It was a few years later when I was diagnosed after having my heart surgery. I have played games with this for too long.
I'm going to google about the caffeine and see what I can find.
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Trish, I found an article that said it's best to have your coffee after 9 AM, but it was written in 2015, not recently. The reason they stated was because your cortisol peaks between 8-9AM and then starts to fall. Since cortisol is falling, that is when you need the pick-me-up from the coffee. So maybe that means the same thing....if you drink the coffee while your cortisol is peaking it will just drive it higher. Sometimes I have my coffee before 9 and sometimes after. I don't think I'm going to change at this point. I don't have any of the symptoms of high or low cortisol except for the belly fat and inability to lose weight.
Loserbug, I'm sorry that you keep losing your posts. Please be patient, and in time you will get accustomed to posting on the forum. Maybe you could post a bit and then submit, and then go back and edit to add more. Some people type their post in a word processing program and then copy and paste it to the thread. You'll get the hang of it.
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Trish, I went back to find something you wrote on Nov 4. You said:
I did notice something when I ate the candy. Sugar makes my joints hurt and difficult to make a fist. If I eat too much starchy foods, I have the same problem.
I'm starting to wonder if the pain in my hands and one foot are being caused by the same thing. Remember I said that I had those 3 overeating days. Well, last night my foot was hurting really bad when I went to bed and I hadn't been on it more than normal. When I got up and couldn't fall back to sleep I checked BG and it was over 200. So I'm now wondering if there's a connection. I know that you can get periferal neuropathy from diabetes, but I don't have numbness and tingling...just pain. I'm going to watch this more closely. I ate just vegetables today since I'm doing a DD and my pain is very little. I will have to check and see where BG stands. I don't like to take Glimiperide in the evening because then I run a chance of a hyper during the night but I'm curious to see if I have a pain free night if my blood sugar is good. I also think the high blood sugar might be what wakes me up and I can't get back to sleep.
For brunch, I had some sauteed cabbage, with onion and shredded zucchini. I love cooked cabbage. For dinner we went to Bob Evans. I got a chicken salad. I just ate the salad and brought the fried chicken strips home to eat tomorrow. Tomorrow is an UD and I'm allowed to have 1797 calories. I'm just glad I can have my scrambled eggs. I missed them today. And I am defrosting some italian sausage to have for dinner.
We stopped in Target this evening and they had turkeys on sale for 79 cents per lb. I don't know how much Walmart is going to be selling them for this year but I think last year they had them for 87 cent per pound. I got the 2 smallest turkeys they had and put them in the freezer. By using my Target card I got an additional 5% off, and since they are on the card that one expense I don't have to worry about for Thanksgiving since I didn't get my check. I also bought some pumpkin for the pies and some Heinz turkey gravy. Shhhhh, don't tell anyone I cheat and don't make home made gravy. DH doesn't like home made....says it's too greasy. When people get here it's already warm in the pot so they don't know I didn't make it. And anyway, I think they are just so happy they didn't have to cook. LOL I still don't know if anyone is coming. My DIL is bringing my grandson over on Friday so I will ask her then. I don't care if they go to her mother's, but I just need to know so I can plan. I'm actually happy when the kids go to their in-laws because I get a day off and can relax. If they are coming here I will cook both of the small turkeys, but if not, then only 1 for DH and I.
Sorry this turned into a book. I am chatty this evening.
Loserbug So sorry you are having difficulty posting. I have had that happen to me in the past. Never know why. I think I hit a button and accidently send it into cyberspace.
Carol Sue You are wordy? Have you noticed how long my posts have been lately? You would think I'm writing a novel. LOL!!!
Very rarely do I get up early enough to drink coffee before 9 am so I guess I'm safe with the caffiene.
I had forgotten about the sugar and sore joints. I have been noticing that I am able to make a fist with no problems. Although I am eating a few carby foods, I must have it cut back enough not to cause my hands problems any more. I don't have the tingling in my hands any more either. Interesting observation. It made me see a lot of improvements I hadn't noticed. Thanks for the reminder.
I agree with you about the books. I got rid of some before I moved and still need to get rid of a lot more. I have a lot of diet books that I know I will never use again because I won't ever follow those plans.
I love cabbage, but quit eating it when I was having all the potty issues. I recently ate coleslaw with no problems. I just might get some next time I go to the store and try it again.
My niece is going to make a Vegan pecan pie and a peanut butter pie for Thanksgiving. I've never had either one. I'll let you know how it tastes. I think this year I will fix me a plate and hide it in the freezer this year. I think I told you that I fixed a plate to eat and walked away to play hostess visiting with everyone and ended up not eating. I did have turkey left to eat, but never got the dressing. I think I am going to try making either a vegan or vegetarian dressing this year. I'll let you know how that turns out too.
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Trish, I have not had potty issues from all the veggies this time, just more frequent...more than once a day. I feel very cleaned out! LOL I know, that's TMI.
I am down 2.5 lbs I think. The last time I weighed I was 203 but I don't know if it stayed there. It could have gone up even higher. I was 200.5 this morning, so I want to change my stats.
I have been craving a donut the past few days. I don't know why, as I rarely eat sweets. Since today is my UD I planned on getting one this morning, but now that my weight is down I'm psyched, and thinking why blow it? It would probably hurt my blood sugar more than my weight, but I've lost interest. Seeing a drop, however small, seems to give me incentive to stay on plan, so maybe that's a good reason to weigh more often.
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I just had my scrambled eggs. They tasted so good after not having them yesterday. Really made me appreciate them. I don't know what veggie I will eat for lunch, but I believe the cabbage and zucchini is really helping. I'm not sure what's going to happen over the weekend because it will be more difficult for me to have a DD. Maybe I will just keep calories as low as I can and then go back to the rotation next week.
I received the form to be completed for direct deposit so maybe if I return it right away I will have it in in time for December.
See the Dr tomorrow, so will be interesting to see if my medication is adjusted.