Tymaboy: I think you are wise to try to lose weight and control your hypoglycemia. I have also suffered a lot from low blood sugars at times. People with hypoglycaemia are also high risk to become diabetic.
Also: re your fibromyalgia: I don't have fibro, but do have arthritis like pain that has been helped with diet changes. One is alcohol in general, wine in particular, really makes me flare up with pain. The other is "nightshade" vegetables, (tomatoes, peppers, eggplants and potatoes, and the deadliest of nightshades, tobacco) and for a while, taking them out of my diet helped a lot. I am happy today that my treat of a glass of wine last night doesn't seem to have affected me, but will likely wait a few months before I have another.

Mad, I get unspecific pain. In my hands I am assuming it is arthritis, but it gets worse or better with no rhyme or reason. I don't take any pain meds for it, just live with it. If I knew what makes it go away I would avoid that. I rarely eat nightshades, just because they are not my choice. I might have wine once or twice a year on a holiday. I did have some green pepper recently and wonder if that's what brought my hand pain back. Also, I had a reaction to Cipro a few years ago and got very bad tendonitis. It took a couple years for that to subside, and I think I get it occasionally, in the form of elbow pain. When that happens, I take a Kelp tablet. I think the iodine relieves it. It goes away after I take that.

I was wondering if Fibromyalgia is the name they use when they don't know what else it could be. DH gets a lot of pain and I think his could be Fibromyalgia. His is mostly during the night, and he's fine during the day.

I didn't realize you had 2 daughters. That explains it. I hope your daughter does better with her depression/anxiety. Sometimes I think I am manic/depressive. Sometimes I am very happy, sometimes sad, with no apparent reason, but that's probably normal. No one is happy all the time. I tend to worry about things that "might" happen. If you keep reading the internet like I do, you start to think you have everything.

I have become fearful of driving. What if I wreck? What if the car breaks down? Things that might never happen, and even if they do, people get through these things.

Sometimes if I have a special meal planned, I will skip lunch, or just have a very small snack, like a piece of cheese. Food is much more enjoyable if you're hungry. I know that your work schedule plays havoc with meal planning.

Tymaboy, if you are in the process of getting disability, be careful of doing things like cutting grass, or other things outside. It could work against you. A friend of mine was advised that when he received his disability. Sometimes they check up. I hope you get it and I hope you feel better soon.

Trish, I think IF works well for you. I am still in the habit of eating something small at bedtime, so that breaks my fast. Recently I have been having some bran cereal to get some fiber. Maybe I should add that to my breakfast instead of having food at bedtime. It's a crap shoot, for sure. I recently found that if I go into the bedroom and watch TV in the evening I am less likely to snack.

Your Dad either didn't have the antibiotic long enough or it wasn't strong enough. I had that problem, so when they switched me to Cipro I found I was allergic to it. I am now allergic to anything that ends in "floxin" but my doctor said thousands of people take it with no problem at all. I was the lucky one. LOL

Fatmad Im hoping by loosing some weight the pain will be better but when I was down to 121 I still hurt. I think there is a difference in the over weight hurt & the chronic pain hurt.

wannabehealty I dont mow with a push mower or do the weeding, the riding lawn mower should be like driving but with all the stops, turns & reverses made me hurt. Drs are always on me about doing some sort of excersize. I was hoping that it wouldnt hurt as much as walking does. I know SSD can be very strick and do a review after a year or when ever they feel.

Its been storming, windy and cooler then it had been. I had been doing pretty good with the weather change but today it has just hit hard. Ive had to go lay doy down and tryed a hot shower this afternoon. I vacuumed the living room floor today but that is all I will do today.

After saying I didn't binge eat, I would say that I actually ended up having one last night. I can handle crackers as long as I count them out, but last night it was late and I was hungry so I opened a new box and ate out of the box. Suddenly I realized if I didn't stop, I was going to eat the whole box full. I had bought my favorite in the mini size so I could have the effect of thinking I'm eating more with the same calorie price. I did put them away, but wish I had become aware sooner.

Today I am low carbing with my goal being a DD although it won't be 500 calories low. More of a CAD like day. Although CAD has worked well for me in the past along with IF, I have been afraid to go very long without breakfast because of the Trulicity. However, I realized that if I really need to eat that I could eat something. I decided that when I go out with my DD and DS that I can drink something instead of eating. I didn't plan to go to Daddy's today because he was not feeling really well this morning although he did get a good nights sleep. I told him that he went so many nights not able to sleep and sometimes antibiotics make you tired so it will take a few days to get his energy back. I wanted to go home and let him rest. But when I got to the beauty shop, DS told me she had talked to him and he said something to her about his apartment needed to be cleaned up. The couple who comes to clean only come every other week and don't come today. Since I try to keep things clean on the week they don't come, I decided to go clean things up for him. DS offered to buy lunch for me, but I told her I wasn't going to eat, but I would take a diet drink and that is what I did. I've decided even if I don't do JUDDD rules, I can still do an UD or DD, using a combo of IF/CAD making my eating hours between 3ish and 8ish doing a 5/19 IF ratio. Most days can be low carb with the option of a carby meal thrown in on days I want it. The goal today is lowcarb. We will see how that goes.

fatmad I don't remember if I knew you had 2 daughters or not. However, I don't think I ever knew of her illness. It is very difficult thing to deal with. My daughter has been diagnosed with severe depression. Sometimes living with her was like living on a roller coaster especially before she was diagnosed. She lives in another state and seems to be doing well. She has good doctors and friends and that always seemed to be more important to her than her children etc. I've had to just back off and let her live her life. I have to say she seems to be better, although she still has weird ideas about life in general. Her wants and needs still comes before her children and she isn't close to any of them or any of her family. She will call every now and then and it is like we talked yesterday, but it is always all about her. They guy she lived with for years passed away last year and his son and his girl friend lived with her for a long time. They finally moved into the other side of the duplex she lives in and she is alone and she seems to love it that way since she can finally do what she pleases. She always seems to have friends she loves being with. I just hope she is doing as well as she seems to be. I see her on FB more than I talk to her. I feel all I can do is love her and let her have her life and pray a lot.

Carol Sue I think the medicine wasn't given long enough although the doctor is having lab look more closely at the culture than they did last time.

I've got to go cook. DH will be getting hungry and I'm making wings and will have some extra for a snack later this evening.

p.a. and Tymaboy :wave:

:carrot:YEAH:carrot: I had a successful Day 1 of an IF eating window of 5 hrs.

Good for you Trish, with the successful Day 1. It always feels good when you get started again.

I used to eat crackers all the time, but I like cream cheese on them. My most recent favorite was Wheat Thins Fiber Select. They either stopped making them or our stores stopped carrying them, because I can't find them any more. I liked them because they were higher fiber than others, but still with the cream cheese. Crackers are one of the things I stopped buying because I am mostly the one who was eating them. I buy them around the holidays to use with cheese and dips when I have company then I don't buy them again until the next holiday. Recently, DH bought a box of Ritz. They were a good sell by date, but they were all crumbly and he wouldn't eat them. So guess who ate them instead of wasting them? I did send an email to the company and complained and they sent me a coupon, but we used that coupon for cookies DH wanted instead of crackers. Now I have a box of Triscuits and I'm working on finishing them. I think they are leftover from Christmas! LOL I hate to throw things out. Now I only have 3 pkgs of cream cheese left and that's what I need to make DH cheesecake, so I won't buy any more for a while. But I never just ate the crackers plain. Now DH is buying Club Crackers. They don't interest me as much because they don't go with cream cheese.

I had not had potty issues for several weeks, but last night I ate at the casino buffet and had problems afterwards. I can't seem to put my finger on what's causing it, but it doesn't seem to happen if I eat smaller meals. Yesterday was the seafood buffet. I am losing interest in the shrimp and crab legs. This week they had grilled trout, which I had never had. I took a piece to taste, and I loved it! I had DH go back up and get me another piece. DH likes to fish but he doesn't like that type of fish to eat. He is a catch and release fisherman. I don't know if I would like the trout they catch in the river, but this grilled trout was great. I hope they continue to have it. I don't know if I got the issues because I ate something unusual that my system was not used to.

There is another issue I'm having now. We used to go to this one restaurant where DH would get pizza and I would order something else for myself. That worked fine, and he would bring the leftover pizza home and eat it for lunch the next day. Now he tried a different pizza close to our home, and it's better, and cheaper, but just take out. He doesn't want to get it unless I eat it, too. Why is it different? I ordered something different at the other restaurant. I would be much happier to cook at home for myself. There are things I have that he doesn't like, and it's my opportunity to eat them when he's having something else he likes. But if I say I don't want pizza, he won't order it. Then I have to think of something else for him, when I know he wants the pizza. The past 2 times I just ate the pizza with him, but I wasn't happy about it. Why does he have to be this way? Why can't I just eat what I want? DH has some strange traits. I was reading online, and I think he has Adult Aspberger's, but I can't mention that to him because he would get enraged. LOL

Carol Sue Club crackers are the very ones I like and bought the small ones. I don't buy Ritz crackers because I can eat a whole package at one of the single packages in one sitting. I do keep regular crackers on hand because I can eat a serving or less with a salad and leave them alone which is a good thing since DH likes those when he eats soups.

Do you have a salad when DH gets the pizza to bring home. Remember that book we read on diabetes and how it said to off set the pizza with veggies? DH always eats cheese pizza so I used to cut up bell peppers, onion etc and put them on the pizza and made a veggie pizza with a few slices and it never seemed to cause me any problems. Maybe you could try that if you didn't want a salad or do both. We haven't eat at Pizza Hut since we moved here but I used to always order the veggie personal pan pizza and a salad, but the one where we lived quit having the salads. I don't know if they did that at all their restaurants or not.

I stayed within 6 hrs eating today but it wasn't low carb. We had the little great nephews birthday party and they only had finger sandwiches, cake and no diet drinks. I ate about 3 finger sandwiches which would measure out to be 3/4 of a sandwich no mayo or mustard on them so they weren't very high calorie. I love German chocolate cake and haven't had it since I left TX. DH and I halved a slice and then we didn't finish it. Actually threw it out. I only had a few swallows of his sprite like drink. I just didn't want all that sugar. I only had a few bites of the chips because the little birthday boy was helping me eat them and he ate most of them. LOL

I came home and made a low carb dish with veggies and ground beef with 1/2 avocado and a serving of the Club crackers and Skinny Cow bar. All eaten before 7 pm. I have decided that I normally will do this low carb, with an occasional carb day. I actually consider this a UD. I'm not sure about tomorrow. Turns out my sister's son and grandson is coming in to Daddy's for a couple of hours tomorrow instead of her going up there. So we will be celebrating her grandson's birthday while they are here. Her son and family are vegan/vegetarian so she get trays of finger foods so not sure how that will go. I had originally planned for more of a 5 hr DD low carb. So I'll just be careful. Any way, I did make it through another IF day making it Day 2.

I thought I would share this. Some we know, but doesn't hurt to learn more on lowcarbing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da1vvigy5tQ

Just finished Dr. Jason Fung's book The Complete Guide to Fasting. I hadn't had time to do that with all that has been going on in my life lately. The 2 sections on Feast ad Fasts: Understanding the Rhythms of Life and The Dawn Phenomenon explanations were just what I needed to sew this all up for me.

I love how he so simply explains how these work especially the Fasting Blood Glucose readings in the mornings as to why they may stay high even when fasting. I used to wonder why bother fasting when my FBG would be high some mornings. Now I will understand that it is a good thing not a bad one and that this woe really is working. I am so thankful for Dr. Fung's book.

I would recommend anyone who is doing any type of fasting and/or lowcarbing for diabetes to read this book. I got mine from Amazon on my kindle. I don't remember what I paid for it, but it is excellent and I will definitely be using some form of IF along with low carb especially after reading the book and hearing the YouTube I shared earlier.

What I liked about the the YouTube female doc I shared is that she states that you can reverse diabetes and never have it again AS LONG AS YOU CONTINUE TO EAT THIS WAY. She said THE DAY YOU GO BACK TO EATING ALL THE CARBS YOU ARE GOING TO BE DIABETIC AGAIN.

I have 6 months before I have to see a doctor again and have blood work. Since the Trulicity was my idea, I don't have to take it unless I want to. If I can low carb and fast, I won't have to take it. However, I know how to watch for signals of hypoglycemia and I could continue it until my prescription runs out. I joined a FB group called Fung Schweight group (I'll have to check that out as I may have the Schweight part spelled wrong). You have to join and ghey have pretty strict rules of not sharing recipes etc. but you can ask questions and they have a lot of things like articles of Dr. Fungs. The person who recommended it to me said they call themselves Fungsters. LOL

Any way I asked if any one did the fasting program while taking Trulicity or some similar med. One lady said she did it while on Victoza. Said she never could tell if it helped her, but her goal had been to get off the meds because she didn't like the way it made the pancreas make insulin. She worked with her doctor and is no longer on any medicine. So that is encouraging to me. That is my goal as well.

I don't have time now as I'm getting ready to head over to Daddy's, but I will share about the 2 sections of the book later.

Have a blessed Sunday.

Trish, I will have to think about that book. It's on Amazon for $9.99 for Kindle. It's not available from my library or anywhere else online that I can see.

I have had arguments with so many people about "curing" diabetes. They say you can eat low carb and get off all meds. Well, it's not a "cure" unless you can go back to eating carbs and not get a spike. DR Fung says that you can cure it by doing the long term fasting, days, not hours, and eventually your body will start to respond differently. I would have to see that to believe it, because they say the cells become damaged, so I don't think it can be cured, unless the body can repair the damage that was done. I still feel that if you ever go back to eating carbs, your diabetes will return.

I know the Glimiperide makes my body produce more insulin and I don't want that, but if I go off plan I have to take it, plain and simple. I know that, and I know I am causing the problem by eating the carbs. I guess I want them more than I want to lose weight and control blood sugar.

Once again this morning we went out to the store. Around noon DH decided he had to eat something, but wasn't hungry and didn't want to eat, but I had to, or he wouldn't stop. This is an ongoing problem with us. I just don't understand. If he didn't want to eat, there would be nothing I could do to make him eat. I have to find a way to stop this. I have to be able to make the decision on what I eat. Maybe if I would go and just take one bite, then say I'm not hungry. It would be wasting food, but which is worse?

I didn't really like the pizza the last time we got it. It just didn't taste good to me. I used to pull the topping off and chop them up into a salad and call it pizza salad. I got the taste of pizza, without all the carbs. But I have to be in the mood for a salad. That's because I prefer to eat warm or hot food. When we went to the other place, he would get pizza and I could order something else. In some cases it was a tuna fish sandwich, because it was something small, and it was really tasty. I enjoyed it. Occasionally I would get wings. But for some reason, when we get the take-out pizza from the new place he expects me to eat it. I could say I'm going to eat it, but then when it comes, not eat it, or do the one bite thing again. Why do I have to play games like this?

Why does that group not want you to share recipes? Just curious. I would finish the RX for the Trulicity and then decide whether to continue. I don't think I will ever stop taking the Metformin, but want to stop the Glimiperide, totally.

Hey Friends:
Have been very good being on plan since Thursday's date night big dinner and treats. However, weight is still up a bit. Will see if its back down tomorrow. I seem to be having a bit of trouble breaking 175 and will eat carefully this week to see if I can get past that. I have NEVER stayed on plan the way I have these last 2.5 months. It has been a 12 pound removal of weight, and I want to keep it off and get down more. I am feeling pretty good with this, and noticing every thing feeling a bit looser.
So I just have to learn to deal with it when I have little plateaus and slow downs in the loss. But I am getting used to eating this way, with occasional treats, instead of lots of treats.
But it still is hard.
Have a good Sunday everyone, and lets have a good week on plan.

I had been doing ok eatting wise but tonite I got a craving. I tried to eat curve it but didnt work. I ate 1 of my bars, a harb boiled eggs, tried to drink a small glass of Silk Milk then I caved and at Pringals and dip :( I need to find something healthy that will help with my chip cravings. DH has a bad of Doritos in the cabnet that is not opened but that is a matter of time since my GD is coming tomorow.

Tymaboy, Doritos wouldn't interest me in the least. I don't like the taste of the seasoning, but I could eat plain tortilla chips til the cows come home. LOL DH doesn't like those, so they are only in the house when we have company. DH is recently into these Potato Stix and I have been hitting them occasionally. Mostly I don't like salty snacks. Once you break the habit of them it gets easier to leave them alone, even if someone else is eating them. Recently DH bought sour cream and onion chips, and I can't stand them. I only like plain, and prefer light salt or no salt.

Mad, my friend who lost weight has been staying on plan for 9 months now, and she said she will never go back to her old way of eating. Never say never, I learned, but she lives alone, so nothing comes in the house unless she buys it and brings it in. She pretty much eats the same thing day after day and it's easier to stay on plan if you eat that way. Most people would get bored, but she doesn't. And she measures everything she eats. Her A1c went from 5.5 to 5.7 and she is upset, trying to figure out why it went up. I told her that is a very slight fluctuation and not to worry about it. I would kill for an A1c of 5.7.

12 lbs is a significant loss, Mad. Good for you. I am still going up and down the same 5 lbs, but the ups are not going as high as they were. I feel lighter today, so maybe I did good with my food yesterday. I had a light dinner. Grilled fish and asparagus.

tymaboy I have a problem with chips too. I actually got to the place once where they could be in the house and I would not touch them. I still can some days, but they were my weakness at one time and once in a while I too cave. The good thing is DH gets a big box of the 1 oz bags at Sam's so I can actually eat only 1 serving now and be satisfied. I'm trying to learn not to eat them as often now. If I can get 100% low carb again, they wouldn't call me at all. In fact, they had chips at my Daddy's yesterday with fruit and veggie trays with dips. I knew I mostly wanted to low carb so I ate I decided to eat my low carb breakfast before I went. I was able to fix Daddy's plates of chips dip, veggies and fruit and I was sooooo satisfied from having the breakfast that I didn't even get tempted to eat any of the food. I could have had some of the veggies and dip, but I didn't trust myself not to eat the other stuff so I decided not to eat anything. I came home and cooked lunch for DH and me. I was so proud of myself. We have to build on our accomplishments and not beat ourselves up when we miss it.

fatmad You are doing very well. It won't be long and you will break that plateau with a new low.

Carol Sue I am more impressed with Dr. Sarah Halberg. I watched some of her YouTube info. She actually tells her women patients to eat to start their carbs at 50 grams men 75 grams. However, she says that some of us dealing with diabetes or some other metabolic disease may have to go as low or lower than 20 or 30 g. She allows more carbs so we can have more veggies. She recommends 4 servings of 20 grams of protein for women and the rest is fat. However, she recommends eating as much fat as it takes to make you feel full. Although the rest works out to be more than 50% of the diet plan, she says most people do not eat more 80% of what they are allowed. The fat can come from cheese, butter, olive oil, avocado and dairy products. She also allow some fruit which she says should berries. She said if you want fruit, instead of garnishing your fruit with whipped cream, fix a bowl of whipping cream and garnish it with strawberries. She doesn't think diabetics should eat fruit, but if they do they shouldn't eat more than 1/3 of a cup and preferably not everyday.

She suggested making lc cheesecake for breakfast for a change. She recommends making desserts with almond or coconut flour and using replacing sugar with some of type of sweetner like xylitol and another new one I wasn't familiar with. However, when I went on her FB site and she had a recipe from a website so I checked it out and it uses a liquid stevia so I assume you could cook with whatever we prefer.

I thought of you Carol Sue and how you like more veggies and she leaves it up to us to tweak how much carbs we can eat and lose and keep our bs under control and she also allows her patients to tweak how much carb they eat. He she said low carb is not high protein. I like that because I would rather have more veggies and not to have to eat extremely high fat and protein because I get tired of it. I am going to check into using other flours instead of white flour. She just made eating lchf so much more doable and easier to me.

I do like my eggs, but I have to say that I could deal with a low carb cheesecake for breakfast once in a while. I know my DS would love it too. LOL!!!

Y'all have a good day.

So had my blood work done today, my fasting bg was sooooo high. I know it's because I hadn't eaten for 15 hours but I'm sure my dr won't say it's that....I'm not adding another med. My A1C crept up .2
So now I'm 6.5 I'm determined to have it back under 5 for next appt. I see my dr on Thursday so I will see what she says. My weight was lowest it's been since sept, today!!

I agree with always being diabetic,,,,I believe you can control it without meds and with diet and exercise..
You just have to find out what works for you. Never give up!