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Butterfly50 11-11-2012 10:41 PM

Help I have fallen and I can't get up!!

That is how I feel right now. Things are so hectic here. I jest can't seem to get on the track. I am so tired of not being able to do what I need to. Then Hubby get me a king size bed and it takes up almost my whole room. No more working out in their Now I have to go out to the garage to do some work outs. But the garage is in shambles now we have to get this all cleaned up.


I tried the carb cycling but it gave me headaches so bad I had to stop and then I realized how much it was gonna cost me to use that one plan I had to stop . I am back up to 275 man do I need help . Somewhere down the line something has to give and I need to get back on track..

fatmad 11-12-2012 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Butterfly50:
Help I have fallen and I can't get up!!

That is how I feel right now.

I tried the carb cycling but it gave me headaches so bad I had to stop and then I realized how much it was gonna cost me to use that one plan I had to stop . I am back up to 275 man do I need help . Somewhere down the line something has to give and I need to get back on track..

Bonnie: you CAN do it. You have the ability. Stop and take a look at what is happening. What schedule do you have, and how can you make that work for you? When (and where) can you work out? Remember, even taking the baby for a brisk walk with the stroller is exercise and good for you.
Let the family know they have to help. Then decide on the eating plan that has worked before, and get to it. Its not easy, but its worth it, and so are you!

Ruthxxx 11-12-2012 10:56 AM

Reaching out to help Bonnie pick herself up! Time to stamp your foot and let your family know they HAVE to help. I used to just go on strike - they had to get their own meals and I wouldn't even answer questions. It worked for me when I was single parenting and having difficulty putting food on the table. Go for it, Bonnie.

I did finally go to the gym this morning and my PT made some modifications to my routine. It felt good! On the way home I shopped for some groceries (starting to bulld up my entertainment stash) and also scouted out winterberry which is what I have in my avatar. My secret place was bare - I guess the drought affected the berry production this year. I have another secret place in the marsh but will avoid it for a while as the deer hunting is happening.

Going to make a chicken salad for lunch. We are in a lovely warm spell right now and I may be able to get away from wanting carbs.

Lindyloo 11-12-2012 11:01 AM

Hello!! I'm back:)

Most of the turmoil in my life has finished, and it's time to concentrate on me now.

I've gained 9 lbs. back, but am ready to start over. Checking in here every day will help with that.

BBL

Ruthxxx 11-12-2012 11:11 AM

:cb: :cb: Yay!!!! Lindyloo is back! Nice to see you again and glad life is smoothing out for you.

diyana 11-12-2012 12:54 PM

Hi everyone -

Thanks for all your support and the great info. My 3rd day on Metformin...and the biggest side effect is being exhausted. Of course that could just be because I did way too much over the weekend. Friday night and Saturday I helped a friend pack and move. And since I don't have all the stuff moved out of my old house, I went over there Sunday to get more stuff to take to my new place.

I've got my frig stocked with healthy foods, and I'll be picking up some books on diabetes and diabetes cookbooks from the library today. :)

I had to adjust my weight ticker upward again. I'd lost over 15 pounds in 10 days in early September when I was going through a tremendously stressful time and I just could not eat. But I've gained some of that weight back now that I'm not as stressed. But, this is a new chapter in my life, and it's time to focus on my health and my happiness. :)

Thanks again!

fatmad 11-12-2012 08:08 PM

Diyana, Michelle
glad you are still visiting. Hope the metformin side effects even out with time. Do take some extra b vitamins, especially folic acid, as this will help. I take a B complex and extra folic acid with my metformin.

Lindyloo, glad to see you back. Lets all get on track before the holiday season and at least start the new year no higher than we are now.

Forgot about yoga tonight, just enjoying the fire on a wet and blustery evening.

Butterfly50 11-13-2012 10:54 AM

Hi Michelle I see you are from Wisconsin . I am from Wisconsin Most of my family is spread out all over their . Some are in Portage some is in Milwaukee and some are from sun prairie and a few others. I hope things aren't too cold their yet .

Things for me are going that is the most I can say right now I am so busy this week. My daughter has her Biopsy today and then they have a therapy appointment Friday and a family reunion on Saturday and my Baby turns 15 Sunday so busy busy busy for me. I hope all goes well with everyone.

diyana 11-13-2012 03:53 PM

Bonnie - I live a bit north of Milwaukee. We had our first snow yesterday, but luckily it didn't stick on the ground. Last night it got down to 25. So it's cold already. I'm saying prayers for your daughter. Hang in there during this busy week. :hug:

Fatmad - Thanks for the advice. :)

Butterfly50 11-13-2012 08:18 PM

Ok so I took my daughter to get the biopsy done today and the doctor was called to deliver a baby and then she had to do a d and c . Talked to the nurse and come to find out my daughter was tested positive for HPV so that is why they need to do the biopsy she has lesions on her cervix from it. Now the next appointment is the day before Thanks given if they don't see her I will be so mad if something else comes up.


Michelle Sorry about the snow I don't miss it.

pattygirl63 11-13-2012 08:20 PM

:wave:

Bonnie - Have your daughter in my prayers and thoughts as well as you. I understand about the cost of low carb, I'm going through that right now because we are having to buy food for the kids as well as for ourselves. Remember that stress also a bad thing for diabetics and I'm sure you are experiencing a lot of that not only with your environment but with the situation with your DD. I know I have to deal with some of that myself. But you know what WE CAN DO THIS!!! Hang in there.:hug:

diyana - Thanks for sharing about the tiredness with the Metformin. I'm getting back on it. I've been totally exhausted and couldn't figure out why. I guess that is it hopefully which means it will eventually pass.

Lindyloo - :wave: So glad to have you back here.

Ruthie Hope the leg gets better soon.:hug:

Mad - Great idea. I would love to have lost when I go back to the doc in Feb and maybe that is the way to go. If I can get through the holidays without gaining, perhaps I can lose a few lbs by the time I see him again.

Rie - Hope you are doing okay.

Well, I was sitting in the waiting room in that beautiful airish gown at the Women's Center waiting for them to call me in to do the mammogram and I got the text from DD that she got her Daddy an appt with an orthapedic to see about his shoulder at 10. It was a little after 9. So I had to fly as soon as the test was done to rush home and get him and get him back to the drs office that was practically around the block from where I was. We made it right at 10 and found out that DH has arthritis in his neck and they think the pain in his shoulder stems from that. Got two med scripts and now we are praying they will work. So now I'm doing all the stuff I normally do plus what he normally does which would not be a problem except I feel like crap. Not complaining about the extra I'm doing, because he took good care of me when I was down for weeks with my knee. I just wish I felt better so it didn't feel like a struggle to force myself to do it. Took youngest DGD and went to the store when I picked her up at school. We actually had a really good time. Did oldest DGD hair this morning in a pony tail. Haven't done it in years and her hair is so thick. She came bouncing in tonight and said, "Nannie, your hairdo stayed all day. Didn't start falling until just a little bit ago". So good things happening in spite of how I feel. So I'm glad.

Kids have a late day tomorrow so I may go take a nap and then get up and be with DH for a while after everyone goes to bed and then go back to bed later.

Eating has been off track yesterday and today. Hope to get back on track tomorrow.

Good night.

fatmad 11-13-2012 10:39 PM

have been up since 430 am for work, tried napping earlier, but no go. Dd here this evening, but going to bed in a few minutes.
Bonnie, just want to say, consider having your daughter get the guardisil vaccine, or the US equivalent. Its a good time to review the sex and sexually transmitted disease talks with her. If she hasn't been vaccinated for hepatitis a and b, consider twinrix as well. If there is a female doc, nurse practitioner or midwife in the office to have these private discussions with her, really encourage it. Hope and pray for you to get through these difficulties.
Will keep you both in my thoughts.

Ruthxxx 11-14-2012 07:41 AM

Good morning.

Bonnie, adding to Mad's comments, your DD's partner should be tested too. HPV can be bad if not treated early.

Patty, you most certainly have a full plate of "stuff". Good thing you are a strong woman.

Diyana, I don't remember being tired when I started on Metformin years ago, just a bit of gas for a few days. Hang in there!

Mad, too bad you can't nap. I had a doctor friend teach me so I have no problems. Is your DD staying with you for a while and have you made any progress in your talks about her career?

Planned to go to the gym today to keep the knees limber but my contractor is coming to do some work on the electrical panel so it's ready for my generator installation later this month. I've got lots to do while I wait for him and could do some outside work except it's only 19ºF out there. In February that'd be considered a warm day but in November, I get chilled to the bone.

Happy Hump Day, chickies.

fatmad 11-14-2012 07:58 AM

well, had a good nights sleep. Feeling better that way. DD is coming to work with me, and will spend the day with the nurse practitioner who works with us. She hasn't been getting answers from the schools about the programs much, but we are planning some campus visits later this month. I am hoping the NP today will talk to her about programs, since she also teaches. Hope we all have a good day.

Lindyloo 11-14-2012 10:51 AM

Good morning:)

Thanks for the welcome backs.

Good idea Mad really need to get back on track.

Just been trying to figure what WOE I am going to use and I think I have made the decision to go low carb. Not sure if it will be Atkins or maybe (Dianne Kress) Diabetes Miracle, but one of the two. My doctor won't be too happy with me when she finds out I have gained weight.

Sleep is my problem as well. I normally wake up around 2 AM and can't get back to sleep again. DH goes to work around 5AM, so I go back to bed then and sleep for a couple of more hours.

Bonnie - Thinking good thoughts for your daughter.

Just washing and a trip to Costco today.

Have a great day all.

pattygirl63 11-14-2012 11:25 AM

Went to bed around 8:30 last night and got up about 10:30ish and DH said "You don't have to get up. Go back to bed if you want to". I didn't argue, I put on my gown and went to bed. Got up around 7:30 this morning and dressed, did a few things and took DGD to school. Got back and oldest DGD had milk and things ready for DGS. Still tired, but will try to work in a nap today. Good news is that ticker is finally correct again.

Mad - I'm OP today and plan to stick with it. I think I do better to just write the calories on paper rather than electronically on line. Most things have the calories on labels now any way.

Got to fix lunch for baby and put him down.

Hope everyone has a good day.

fatmad 11-15-2012 07:58 AM

fbs 5.6 today, don't know if my glucomete just isn't accurate at lower sugars, as when i compare with blood draws, the lab value is usually lower. So I am not freaked, but thinking of changing, when my sticks are done. Will try the relion for cost.
Am really a slug these days on days when I don't have structure. I really need structure to make me move and get going. Speaking of which, must get going!

Ruthxxx 11-15-2012 08:03 AM

Good morning after a good solid sleep - 10PM to 6AM is exactly eight hours. FBGL is good but the weight is not budging. It's very discouraging since I now weigh nine pounds more than I did on this date last year! (Sometimes I hate myself for my compulsive documentation!) I am sticking to plan so will just have to wait it out. Meh! although I really do care.

Have a good Thursday, Chickies, and think turkey!

pattygirl63 11-15-2012 09:24 AM

Ruthie I know exactly what you mean. I just seem to bounce between 2 numbers on the scale. I figure if I keep doing what I know to do somehow it has to pay off, because FBS is dropping pretty good. But I notice when the FBS drops the weight seems to raise a little and vice versa. So maybe when the FBS gets down, hopefully the scale will eventually co-operate. Looking forward to turkey day. Got 2 turkeys in the freezer. We will use only one, but the other one cost so little on sale that I couldn't pass it up.:dizzy:

I think I'm having some problems with uric acid. I woke up once during the last 2 nights with severe pain in my big toe on right foot. Asked a friend on 3fc who has gout what she does. Then binged gout to learn more. So just maybe giving up the wheat is what I do have to do. Plus I now understand why a Christian tv doctor used tell people to eat at least 3 stalks of celery a day. May have to get some celery capsules. Also drinking lots of water seems to help it too. Will see. Hopefully just giving up the wheat will help a lot.

Felt pretty good when I got up. Not as tired so far. I read on line of people who felt good each day until they took the metformin. Seems the girl had PCOS. I do believe I had PCOS when I was a teenager, but they didn't know about it then. Poor doctor was Daddy's friend and as hard as he tried he just could not find out what my problem was. He finally left the medical field because of so many unanswered medical questions. Hopefully he went into research because he was such a good caring doc.

Well, today will be fairly quiet. DH has PT test today for blood thinner so he will pick up the DGD. He will eat out so I will eat light. He is so picky I am always trying to figure out something he will eat. I also plan to take advantage of a slow day.

Hope everyone has a good Thursday.

fatmad 11-16-2012 09:27 AM

ok, made a date with a friend to go to yoga, so that will get me out. Then out for Indian food with another friend who is celebrating being a granny for the first time. Will have to watch that, I can really overdo the Indian food.
Am getting dressed to take the dog for a walk too. Expect a quiet work weekend heading into my holidays. Lets hope I can motivate myself to exercise and eat right while I am off work.

Ruthxxx 11-16-2012 10:03 AM

Getting into a tizzy over my weight as two months from today I'll be on my way to Cuba and wearing a bathing suit. :yikes: A pound a week would get me back to my weight from a year ago but I sure would like to do better than that. So sick of this!

pattygirl63 11-16-2012 07:17 PM

Got the results of my mammogram today and it is normal. Finished with all my girly stuff now for 2 yrs. :carrot: Now just to get the FBS and the triglycerides down. Also got to get the gout situation under control as well. I read that diet can cause it and correct it and then I read that what you eat has nothing to do with it. I did find out that a supplement of celery seed can help. I looked it up on the site where I purchase vitamins and read the reviews and many people say it helped better than the meds.

In all my research, I now realize that when I was a teenager that I must have had PCOS, but they didn't know about it when I was young. Explains so many things I experienced back then that doctor could not understand either. Body is soooooooooo complex and complicated.

Ruthie These darn "golden years" are something else. :dizzy: But so thankful to be alive. LOL

Y'all have a great weekend everybody.

Ruthxxx 11-17-2012 07:05 AM

Patty, I know I had PCOS which explains a lot. I even had one ovary removed in 1958 because of a cyst but there was no treatment then.

Well, tried fish again last night and I have now given up on the stuff. I have decided capsules are just as good. Fish and chips I can hack and I love all seafood but fish is just not tasty so I am no longer going to force myself to eat it.

I need to strictly plan my meals today as I have to be on duty at the Town Hall 5:30 to 9 tonight since we are open for Celebrate the Season. Not sure what to take to eat - our kitchen is ripped apart but I may be able to find the microwave and plug it in for a frozen dinner. I'll be pretty crabby by 7 or so if I don't eat.

Off to make an almond milk, yogurt and blueberry smoothie. Enjoy your weekend, Chickies.

fatmad 11-17-2012 07:48 PM

Had a great yoga class last evening, and nice dinner out with friends, and actually left some food on my plate. Was up a lot of the night, so vegging around today, and DH fed me carbs in the form of pizza for supper. Back on plan tomorrow.
Trish, glad the mammogram went well. Ruth, enjoy your day out.

happy saturday night to you all.

Ruthxxx 11-18-2012 06:30 AM

Weight is still stuck but BGL continues stable. I nearly froze to death at the Town Hall last night as there was no heat! I was home at 9 and then had dinner here. So glad I had single servings of lasagna in my freezer.

Today will be a better day. I am taking cookies to coffee hour after Church but can avoid them easily. Leaf raking is on the agenda for this afternoon and that'll be today's exercise. I am slacking off a bit and need to get my groove back.

pattygirl63 11-18-2012 02:45 PM

Mad I haven't gotten started on the yoga as of yet. Perhaps that is something I will do between Thanksgiving and Christmas and hopefully get a routine going by the New Yr.

Ruthie My weight seems to be stuck at bouncing around, but FBS is coming down. Hopefully the scale will begin to go downward soon. I just keep trying. So sorry our outing to the Town Hall didn't turn out so good. Hope today will be better.

Well as long as I drink the water before going to bed and remember to take 2 B-complex each day, the leg cramps seems to be at bay. I've sent for the book Diet 101 by Jenny Ruhl that Georgia mentions on another thread under the Diabetes section here. I printed out some of her info on her website from her first book and I've learned a lot about why we need to do certain things to get control of diabetes. I am going back to the basics and learning more about what is going on. There seems to have been some sort of mix up and I have some how ended up with loads of sticks so I am going to start testing
after meals again to learn what raises my bs and what doesn't.

Although I don't like such restrictive on fat as the SBD does, I am thinking seriously of going on a modified version with a little higher healthy fats and do the Phase 1 starting day after Thanksgiving and go until December. Then after Christmas, I can stay on Phase 1 for a few days and then move on to Phase 2 January 1st. I will use the Diet 101 ideas to help me along the way to learn what foods work with my body and not against it.

I'm ready to work at getting control of this even if I have to do Atkins again. I think from what I remember reading on Ruhl's website, she helps you learn which lowcarb diet is for you. So maybe 2013 will be the year I get all this under control.

Bonnie, Rie, Lindyloo and others :wave: Hi!!

Have a blessed Sunday.

fatmad 11-18-2012 11:07 PM

forgive me sisters for I have binged. Badly. Nuf said

Ruthxxx 11-19-2012 06:50 AM

Mad, another sinner here. I was sort of down yesterday because my Church is closing and ended up inhaling crackers and a package of cream cheese. Scale is 188.8 again this morning and I could not get a blood drop to test which is probably just as well.

All we can do is carry on. I'm off to the gym shortly.

Happy Moanday!

pattygirl63 11-19-2012 09:50 AM

I'm not doing great either. I've always been able to do really good during this time of year, but not so easy this time. I realize from reading what little I did on Jenny Ruhl's website that if I want the results I want with diabetes that low carb is the way to do it. I am low carbing today and will work at doing low carb until Thanksgiving day and just make that a day off. Then I will go right back on low carb again the very next day. I'll do that until Christmas and take that day off too and right back on the day after. At least that is the plan I will work towards. Will change my ticker today and use this as day one on new plan. Got to set some goals and make them work for me.

We may be having trouble girls, but WE CAN DO THIS.

Lindyloo 11-19-2012 04:36 PM

How can a person possibly gain 3 lbs overnight :dizzy::o

Ruthxxx 11-19-2012 05:31 PM

Really, really easily! Don't fret - it's water weight and will go quickly. I'm sure you didn't ingest an extra 10,500 calories yesterday.

fatmad 11-19-2012 11:31 PM

DId better today, no outright binges. Meals were reasonable. BUt am at a 2 day meeting, supper tonight came with dessert. Just a small one though!
Ok, everyone, I am meeting a colleague in the morning for a yoga date, so you all can also get out and do a bit, only fair. Lets all work to get back on track.

pattygirl63 11-20-2012 10:22 AM

Did good yesterday. Weight seems to be stuck at 230, but FBS is coming down very well. Looked up alkaline foods and got a food chart that has the acidic/alkaline foods marked as to low to high. So doing low carb and learning to balance the protein which is acidic with the alkaline foods which seems to be fruits and veggies. Also eating only when hungry. I'm ready for the next few days of the kids being home. I pan fried the rest of the chicken wings and tenders I had and have them in the fridge. I am going to invest in some (very expensive) organic coconut oil to cook my food in which seems to be an alkaline oil and from I read has loads of benefits. It is my hope that when I go back to see doc in February to have real improved numbers.

Mad - Just do the best you can on your 2 day meetings eating. Don't think of it as eating off so much as a "planned" off. Takes away any guilt reprecussions.

Ruth, Lindyloo, Rie, Bonnie & others Hello :wave:

Ruthxxx 11-20-2012 05:20 PM

Pattie, I just noticed under your name that you have "started Dukan" is that the plan you are following. I'm a tad confused over what you are doing. Is eating when you are hungry helping your BGL control?

I am still plugging away - been working outside for a couple of hours every afternoon but ti starts to get too cold by three. Guess I should try fro 11 to 1 instead. I do have most of the outdoor things done now - just need to cover the AC and get the decorations and lights up.

Food? Not much appetite but I am eating three meals - just not enthused about anything these days except starchy comfort foods. I need a personal chef! I do like stir-fry but even the light soy sauce makes me retain water so weight is still stuck around 188. I know I need to drink more water and am working on that.

We need to just hang in there. (I'm kind of glad my trip to PA for TD was canceled - I can't imagine not eating all the yummies you guys have for TD!)

pattygirl63 11-20-2012 10:27 PM

No Ruthie, I'm not doing Dukan and forgot I had it under my name. I've learned that I cannot eat fat free foods because the saltiness makes me retain water. I am doing low carb but not worrying too much about the fat content. I actually believe that by combining low carb eating with Intuitive Eating so that I only eat when I'm hungry and stop when I am satisfied seems to be helping bring down my FBS. I just want to get throught the holidays and then I will get stricter after the holidays. In fact, I'm doing so well with the FBS coming down, I almost don't want to eat off TD, but I know I will so I'm making it an off plan day.

Lindyloo 11-21-2012 10:16 AM

You were right Ruth:). Whatever it was took an extra 2 lbs away along with the overnight 3:carrot: Woosh Woosh. Now back to .2 less than ticker weight.

pattygirl63 11-21-2012 02:22 PM

FBS is didn't move and neither has the scale but that's okay. Got up and went to store to get groceries. I thought DH and I were getting paid today and I was off a week... next week is payday. Still able to get the rest of the food I wanted to fix for tomorrow plus I'm making the Enchillada cassarole for supper tonight. I got 2 pumpkin pies (one of those) buy 1 get 1 free, 1 pecan pie and a frozen cherry pie. Didn't get cheesecake but we'll have that Christmas. I'll do what I can today so there won't be that much for me to do tomorrow that way DD can do her cooking for tomorrow.

Have a good day... those of us in USA have a Happy Thanksgiving.

Ruthxxx 11-22-2012 07:17 AM

I need Lindyloo's whoosh today as weight is still stuck despite an exemplary Atkins day yesterday. I guess the soy sauce in the chicken and celery stir-fry did me in! I'll just keep on truckin'.

Wishing you all a wonderful Thanksgiving south of the border. Mad and I will enjoy the aroma of turkey wafting north across the Seaway!

fatmad 11-22-2012 09:16 AM

happy thanksgiving to our American friends.
Haven't weighed since getting home last night, will have a couple of days on plan before I do that, so I don't scare myself!
Will go to yoga this evening, after a day time meeting before I start my little holiday.
My goal is to have outdoor exercise daily, and do some yoga daily. I have to make this happen, because I can start reading or something, and never get off my butt all day.
Have a good day everyone, will check in again tomorrow

pattygirl63 11-22-2012 12:33 PM

Scale showed a loss this morning, but not going to even acknowledge it since I know this is my big planned OFF PLAN day. Turkey is in the oven and has 2 more hrs to cook. Green bean casserole is in the crock and dressing/stuffing is in fridge ready to go into the oven. Only baking will be a frozen cherry pie... all other dessert is store bought. Actually was cheaper to buy than make. I think DH & I ended up providing a pretty nice dinner since we are paying for everything now. I .mistakenly thought there were 4 Wednesdays in this month which DH and I get our checks on the 4 Wednesdays. I didn't have much in the bank since I no longer have my cushion I've always kept. So did the best I could with what I had to work with and still have $24 in the bank. So God came through for us again. Sure hope everyone appreciates what DH and I have been doing for them.

I've talked to my kids and great grandaughters which makes my T-day a great day.

Have a good day.


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