Quick flyby. So glad everyone is doing so well. I've had a great day today. Went to church and then out to eat and DSIL's Mom did insist on paying. I hated for her to pay for it all as it was very expensive. However, she said that it was the least we could since we were kind enough to let the kids live here. Things have been extremely nice with her here. Haven't seen DSIL DS as he is spending a lot of time with his Dad.

Eating has actually been OP but I must have gotten a lot of salt as I'm retaining a lot of water right now. So will have to hit the water a lot to flush it out.

Chipper good to see you here. Everybody have a nice evening.

quick hello this am. fbs 4.8 so am doing well there. Seem to do better with not eating in the evening. Had the neighbours over for supper, such a lovely visit, and was able to control points by serving many veggies and avoiding potatoes. Left me points for a small dessert as it was the husband's birthday. Planning for yoga tonight. Had lots of walking this weekend. Weight is a steady 172, but no signs of dropping, hoping for a whoosh someday soon.
Happy Monday friends, I'm off to work.

Another quick flyby. Eating has not been too bad but not as good as I would like especially today. DM of DSIL cooked and then they wanted me to taste and eat with them. I've not spent a lot of time with all of them so she could have time with them so I agreed to sit with them, eat a small amount of the pasta dish she cooked and visit. Really enjoyed it. She is really fun to be with. She wants to have coffee with me tomorrow and the two of us have girl talk time so will do thll.at with her. She is a speach therapist in public school so she has been working with baby Jaxxon while here and teaching Richard and April how to get him to ask for things he wants instead of throwing a fit and telling them how they must respond. As I've watched her, I too have learned some things as well that will help re-inforce some of the things I've been teaching him. I don't see DS son much, but it has turned out that having his DM here has been a real blessing and a pleasure. I am glad.

Good night till tomorrow.

Patty, you deserve blessings and pleasures. I'm glad the visit is working out well.

Well, the weight is still here so I am not posting my lying ticker for a while. I seem to be back at 180 again although FBGL is fine. I have another cold and was wide awake all Sunday night which meant yesterday was a lost day. I had a good solid ten hours of zzzzzzzz last night though which should make today a lot better. It's Good Food Box morning which usually inspires me to plan more veggies. Last night was a ww pita pizza and was a bit sparse on the veggies and a bit high on sodium. (Olives and carpers once again!) Today will be better.

fbs 4.9 this morning, I am staying under 5 more of the time, so am really happy bout that. However, last night, DH made tacos. I have been having allergy troubles and think that corn may be a problem, so instead of having a corn taco shell, I made a taco salad and used some yummy bread rusks to dip.
pc sugar was 8.1, yup, white bread still give me a big spike. 2 hours after eating so high.
I did get to yoga yesterday, so did something well!
Off to work, then mediating with my difficult colleague. Hope it goes ok.

Red my bs was in the 200's the same as yours and I'm also on Metformin. I couldn't tolerate the 500mg twice a day it made me sick so I went to 500mg a day and now I'm up to 1 1/2 (750mg) a day and doing fine on that. Your bs could go up from being sick and not eating. Stress from that can also make it go up. As you lose weight your bs will go down. I was on WW last year and couldn't work my way around the point system with my diabetes but this year they calculate carbs into the points so it's a breeze for me. My weight is dropping and so is my blood sugar!!! yay! It's gone from the 230's to the 140's after just losing approx. 13 lbs. When I was first diagnosed I tested religiously right before I ate and 2 hours after. I knew what foods made me spike and what foods were ok. I used to be able to eat oatmeal but with no toast or toast only with peanut butter on it or egg beaters (love the southwestern) with a sprinkle of parm cheese on top. This year I notice oatmeal makes me spike so farting around with not watching what I eat etc has done some damage to my insulin production. Test often to find out what foods do what and have a snack before bed! If you don't your body will think it's being starved by about 3 or 4 am and your bs will increase. That's called the dawn phenomenon. 5 saltine crackers is only (2 points) topped with 2 T of peanut butter (6 pts) on them will hold you over or 2 sheets of graham crackers and 1/2 c. FF milk. I'm hoping to be off meds by the time I hit 130! Long way off but it's my long term goal.

I have a question for anyone on Weight Watchers actually. I used to be on the south beach diet and when we calculated the carbs we subtracted any sugar alcohol that was in the food from the carbs to get a new total carb count. Are we suppose to do that in WW also when we're putting info into the tracker to find the points? I realize the new WW program for this year includes carbs into the calculations but I just wondered if when I'm entering the carbs for sugar free foods I should subtract the sugar alcohols first from the total carbs.

Good morning ladies,

I'm officially joining your group. I think the denial stage that I have diabetes (type 2) is over and I am surrendering to having to deal with it head on. My pseudo low-carb eating and exercise are no longer doing what I wanted them to do. I can't rely on Intermittent Fasting any more because it seems I'm one of those people with Dawn Phenomenon that will last all day if I keep up with a 24-hour fast. At least my Paleolithic diet philosophies are still serving a purpose of keeping my carbs low, but I'm having to cut way back on my protein intake because that seems to affect my blood sugars too.

I've been on Met ER for almost two weeks and I'm not-so-patiently waiting for it to kick in. I've been making myself crazy with experimenting and testing (my fingers hurt!) but I think I see the pattern that's working for me. Small meals with no more than 5 net grams of carbohydrate, 15 grams of protein and 15 grams of fat, about four hours apart. I can do Pilates in the mornings and evenings and cardio in the middle of the day for a longer stretch.

It would be nice if I could put together a daily routine and stick to it. Maybe make my life a little less manic in the face of all of this. And to start to lose weight again. Such slow progress!

Looking forward to connecting more with all of you. Thanks for all the pearls of wisdom you've shared so far.

**Forgot to add...fbs at 148 this morning. I know, we're working on it!

Learned of a no brainer recently. I have very painful feet so walking is very hard for me as a form of activity. I saw on another website someone suggested just sitting with hand held weights and using those while watching tv. It doesn't matter what muscles you're working as long as you're doing something. As my daughter would say' Duh! I tried it and my sugar went down after 10 minutes of just lowering and raising my arms with 2 lb weights in each hand. Something so simple.

More testing today. I went to low-impact cardio this morning. Tested before...144. Tested after...151. Tested an hour after that...117. Later in the day I drank a big cup of iced coffee with half-n-half and ate 2 oz of lean beef, then tested an hour after that...161. Then I ran some errands and tested two hours after that...126.

I am all over the place! How do you keep from this sort of thing making you nuts and questioning everything you do, or don't do? How would you interpret all of this?

I'm quite hungry now. Planning to have a nice salad and some Petrale sole for dinner in a little bit. And before bed, celery and almond butter. I'm curious about which one affects me more.

Diva: good for you for finding a way to exercise. Are your feet painful from diabetes? Do B supplements help at all?
Georgia: how long after something are you testing? Look at diabetes 101 for a good explanation about why we raise our blood sugar temporarily after strenuous exercise: the body is releasing sugar to feed the muscles. However, it will drop fairly quickly as the exercise helps reduce the insulin resistance and the glucose can get into our cells better. So don't fret that bs is higher after exercise, note how well it dropped afterward!
AS to the coffee, I assume it wasn't sweetened, or was sweetened with equal or splenda, but the caffeine alone may release blood sugar. Mostly you should be checking 2 hours from the start of the meal or snack, use the one hour testing only if you think necessary. Mostly, the goal 2 hours after is 7 mmol or under, which is 126 in the US. So you ARE getting there. It WILL take some time.
I am really glad you are joining us and working to get your sugars under control, its great!
Rie: were you drinking dry white wine? how dramatic! Hope the pool game was fun!
Trish: hope the visit continues to be good. Blessings on you making room in your already busy home.

Took my daughter out for her birthday supper tonight. THe weather is so warm, and its the first day of spring. We would never have dreamed of going out to a patio to eat on her birthday before. DOn't know if it will ever happen again, but we did enjoy it. She is experimenting with vegetarianism again, so I am testing her iron levels. Interfering mother!
I am finishing my ww week with 14 leftover weekly points and didn't touch my activity points, and had activity every day of the week. Not an ounce of gain or loss as far as I can tell.

By the way Diva: I have not seen actual formulas for calculating foods with sugar alcohols, but it would look like you don't use those carbs, you subtract them from the total carbs. ( The booklet I have just suggests checking foods on the online tracker, but checking one of the foods I had recently, that appears to be the way to figure it out. )

Big hello to Ruth, and hope to see the ticker return soon.

Have a good evening friends

I want to get nosy here...how many meals are you eating and how big are your meals? And do you eat on a schedule?

Well, company is gone. I have to say that I truly enjoyed visiting with DSIL's Mom. She is a speech therapist with teens and special needs kids so she wore DGS out because everything they did was a teaching experience for him and for me. I knew a lot and already did some things that I guess just comes naturally to me, but I learned a whole lot more. I think it will make more of my time with him "quality" tme.

Tried to get online a few times today, but couldn't. Not sure why my pc was acting up. May have to make some changes in where I keep it. Will see.

Diva - Thanks for sharing about the exercise idea. I try to be more active and have often thought of using the weights when watching tv. I'll have to start doing that. It's better than eating or doing nothing.LOL

geoblewis - I eat 2 meals and 1 or 2 small snacks. I don't eat until around 1 or 2 in the afternoon just because that is what works for me and what keeps my FBS normal.

A very interesting thing has happened with my eating. I have ended up doing IF (Intermittent Fasting) only because it comes "natural" to me I guess because I ate that way growing up. I do it without even trying to eat that way. FBS is 119 or lower since I eat this way. So I'm going to just go for it.

Ruthie, Mad, Rie, Bonnie and other's reading Hi!:wave:

Happy weigh in day for me, was down a pound at ww and on my own scale today! not quite a whoosh, but an improvement. Very busy office day, but got through it. I didn't get to yoga, so will try to get on the treadmill this evening while watching tv. That will take some real effort, but I do want to be active.
WIll do personals later, ttfn

Trish, I wish I could continue with IF. I simply don't get hungry in the mornings and can easily wait till an eating window from 2 to 9 pm. But I was easily overeating during that time as well and now know that I'm plagued with the dawn phenomenon.

Yesterday and today I had my simple little breakfast of protein, veg and a little fat. I was able to stick to a smallish lunch and a bigger dinner (again, that's my natural eating window), but I did keep to lower calories (carbs and protein) overall for two days. And my blood sugar is starting to stay under 150. I look forward to weighing in tomorrow!

I decided not to test so much from now on. It's not about the testing, just like it's not about getting on the scale. It's about what I'm doing to make the good numbers happen. Going to stick to fbs and two hours after each meal. That's enough!

Good morning. Georgia, stick with it and it will soon become natural and won't need as much testing.

I must admit I've never tested more than first thing in the morning unless I'm feeling weird - and then it's never from BGL problems. :shrug:

FBGL was 4.2 this morning. When working at the Clinic yesterday, I got a quickie HA1C test with the new machine and am 5.8 so I guess I'm doing something right. The sodium from the weekend is still with me - I may have to admit it's real weight and change my ticker. :(

Glorious sunny and warm days here which are going to go back to normal on the weekend but I've sure enjoyed being outside in this bonus "summer".

Weight is still below 172, but I will wait and see it if stays off before I change the ticker. Oh how I hope to be under 170 soon. HOpe I can bring Rie and Ruth with me!
I ate the points this week, but fewer grains. Will assume that is a part of it.

Quick post: fbs at 85 despite desert last night. Weight is still up.

Yay Mad! please take me with you!!!!!!

Sorry, site visit today at my work. 15 people from Wyoming here for the next 24 hours. I will try to post later.

Rie

Fbs is 136 this morning...how early do you get up to test it? Because I'm just figuring out that it seems to matter and that I need to eat something pretty quickly too. But getting up this early will certainly help me not overeat at breakfast because I'm not hungry at all!

I was reading Dr. Bernstein's book yesterday, the part about timing exercise around dawn phenomenon. It says to wait three hours. That means I have to start waking up earlier in order to go exercise if I'm to keep my bg lower than 170 during exercise.

Ugh...I just want to go back to bed!

Originally Posted by geoblewis:
Trish, I wish I could continue with IF. I simply don't get hungry in the mornings and can easily wait till an eating window from 2 to 9 pm. But I was easily overeating during that time as well and now know that I'm plagued with the dawn phenomenon.

Yesterday and today I had my simple little breakfast of protein, veg and a little fat. I was able to stick to a smallish lunch and a bigger dinner (again, that's my natural eating window), but I did keep to lower calories (carbs and protein) overall for two days. And my blood sugar is starting to stay under 150. I look forward to weighing in tomorrow!

I decided not to test so much from now on. It's not about the testing, just like it's not about getting on the scale. It's about what I'm doing to make the good numbers happen. Going to stick to fbs and two hours after each meal. That's enough!

Georgia - I think when dealing with diabetes it is sooo important to learn what works for us individually. For me, my FBS is always too high in the mornings when I first get up, by waiting until I'm hungryany where from 1 or 2 pm, it is always normal. I do try to eat more healthy foods and it works for me. That doesn't mean it works fro someone else. When I first started out upon this diabetic journey, I tested after everything I ate and found that just because another diabetic could eat a certain food didn't mean that I could and vice versa. This is a learning experience for all of us and we have to find works for us individually. Before I was ever married, a diabetic or even overweight, I ate the way people eat on IF. It is a "natural" way for me to eat. I eat this way when we travel and I always lose weight on vacation rather than gain which should have been a clue to me. We just haven't been taught to look for what works for us. My doc told me that any "diet" would work and that the key is to find the one that you can live with. I figure why not go with the one that works for me and that I can live with. Good luck on your journey and finding what works for you.

You know, reading posts from people who are doing IF or spreading meals out, I realise that I am still suffering from the hypoglycemia I had before I was pre-diabetic, although it doesn't always show up of the meter. I think I said I once did a meter test during a blood draw, and the lab blood sugar was 3.1 and the meter was 4.6 and I have to wonder about my real sugars when I feel low.
I get nauseous and shaky when hungry at times. And ravenous, and I have gotten used to my regular meals, I almost panic when I can't eat when I want or need it. I was thinking it was a psychological thing, but now I think it may have to do with hypoglycemia, and my meter doesn't pick up the lows very well.

Mad, I don't really get hungry when I am low but I get the shaky, dizzy, weak feeling sometimes if I don't eat regularly. Even though technically not low, below about 74 doesn't feel good to me. I am typically at 80 - 85 pre-meal so that isn't much of a range. The diabetes people don't really believe me that it makes me feel that way.... I wonder if I am actually lower and the meter is off? Interesting question. I really feel the best when I eat timely and appropriate meals with an evening snack. (how boring!)

Rie

When my blood sugar drops I get very clumsy. But sometimes that happens now and I take a reading and I'm in the 120s or 130s. There have been times recently that I've tested in the 80s and felt just fine. I'm still all over the place with my numbers.

I'm in L.A. for the weekend. Needed time away from home. There's a spa at the hotel...plan to test my bg after a massage!

Bless me sisters for I have sinned! I don't know what came over me but I ate a Tim Horton's donut at the Fair Board meeting last night. I think it was because I had a cruddy supper. Must fire the cook! I expected a high FBGL this morning but it was 4.2 so I lucked out. (Yes, it was delicious!)

Back on track this morning with strawberries and Fibre1 with yogurt and then a session at the gym. I also go to the Clinic for foot care. My feet are in pretty good shape but my doctor likes them checked by the footcare nurse anyhow. I consider it a sort of free pedicure. I still can't convince her to put on nail polish though! Does anyone else get their feet checked?

Happy TGIF!

Good morning chickies.

Ruthie - Love the avatar. You are so cute and funny. Thanks for the chuckle. Remember one splurge isn't a problem unless it becomes a habit.:hug: As for foot care? Doc did a foot check when DH had his physical so I assume he will do the same when I have mine next time I go as I am scheduled for a physical. I also have a pedicure once a month to take care of my feet as well. Never had the pedicures until after I became diabetic.

I started taking my Metformin in the evening around 7ish and take the B vitamin, an OTC product for leg cramps, calcium and the CoQ 10. I'm taking a B vitamin 3x a day since the doctor says the body throws off the access. So far so good keeping the leg cramps under control and it continues to work for me.

Dryer yelling at me so I got to hang the clothes.

Hope everyone has a great day today.

BBL

Wait...we can come here for diabetes confessional? Cool! Yesterday I drove for seven hours to L.A. and I ate a turkey and Swiss sandwich from Starbuck's for lunch and a McDonalds double cheessburger and small fries for dinner after I arrived...and didn't test bg afterwards!

Oh! I feel...still regretful. Humph!

Fbg 143 this morning. I actually got up at 6 to test it, then came down for breakfast in the hotel club lounge, all they have is sugary carby stuff and cold cuts and cheese. And an espresso machine! I brought some cooked chard and kale and I'm about to go back to my room and have a bit of it.

I think I'll take a long slow walk this morning, along the marina. I like to look at the sailboats. Hope you have a lovely day!

Just have to share this. My FBG was 95 mg today. I am so excited as I think this is the firsI time I've been under 100 mg.

Trish! That is so awesome!
(I'm so jealous!)

awe Georgia don't be. It's taken me a good 2 years to find my way to this poing. You will find yours too. Have a nice weekend.

Originally Posted by geoblewis:
Wait...we can come here for diabetes confessional? Cool! Yesterday I drove for seven hours to L.A. and I ate a turkey and Swiss sandwich from Starbuck's for lunch and a McDonalds double cheessburger and small fries for dinner after I arrived...and didn't test bg afterwards!

Oh! I feel...still regretful. Humph!

Fbg 143 this morning. I actually got up at 6 to test it, then came down for breakfast in the hotel club lounge, all they have is sugary carby stuff and cold cuts and cheese. And an espresso machine! I brought some cooked chard and kale and I'm about to go back to my room and have a bit of it.

I think I'll take a long slow walk this morning, along the marina. I like to look at the sailboats. Hope you have a lovely day!

Yes, we can confess, blow off steam whatever. You have no idea how many times I have done that. This is a great support group to share how we are feeling.

morning.....
well, doctor released me and my shoulder. i can't swing arm above head. can stretch above head. start lifting weights at 5 to 10#s. that surprised me. can't do pull downs. unless elbow is at shoulder height. zumba is much better now that i can use it most of the time.
i also installed a new app on my phone for my running/walking. it's runkeeper. this was yesterdays stats.

completed a 2.93 mi run with RunKeeper
Duration 0:46:43 | Calories Burned 301

next i want to try it with my chest strap and see if the HRM will work with it.

granddaughters have their first soccer game today.

hope you all have a great day. tummy grumbling. going to get some breakfast and coffee

reading the recent posts sure made me smile today, from Rie complaining about being "boring" for having regular meals, to Ruth's and Georgia's confessions, Trishes under 100 and chippers shoulder improvement.
Way to go everyone.
I too get to share happy news, am under 171 today! I am still a bit nervous to change the ticker, but have been under 172 since Wednesday, so just say I am superstitious. I went out in the night yesterday, it was supposed to be a day off, but the oncall midwives were slammed and a beloved repeat client went into labour, so I agreed to attend her, and we had a lovely baby boy after a nice normal labour. But being up most of the night, I was tired, and had lots of plans for the day. Took the car in, and bravely had the snow tires taken off (I rarely do this before mid June, hope it wasn't too soon!), then a massage and then to the spa for waxing and mani and pedicures. I don't see anyone special for my feet yet, but I think as we get older and if we are also diabetic, its really important. Seeing my administrator's husband having small amputations sure makes me know that I don't want to get to THAT point.
And Georgia, yes bs will be higher after a massage, just like exercise, that muscle work will release glucose into your blood stream, but its normal so not to worry. ENjoy the massage, mine was great. I am fortunate in that my allied health covers some massage. Turns out with our health care plan, midwives use the medical coverage about half as much as the average, but use the "allied health" like chiropractors, massage, orthotics, naturopaths etc about twice as much as others. Guess it balances out then. (we just had a meeting about our benefits, so its in my mind.)
Went to bed very early last night, about 8 pm, and that helps with not eating, but also was pleased that despite the tired day, I didn't over eat. I tend to do that when tired.
I did overeat on Thursday night tho. WHy I felt I needed an appetizer and a main course I don't know, could have done with the app and salad just fine.
Counted up the points, and ate 40 that night. (daily is 26 and I have 49 per week to use as I wish). Glad it didn't stall my losses though.
Well, I missed a day of posting and am long winded as a result, hope we all have a nice weekend. I am off to start shopping for my "mother of the bride" dress. May not buy today though, but a day out with a girlfriend is always nice.

Hi everyone! I haven't posted except once or twice so still quite the newbie but very interested in how everyone is doing.

As a recount, I was dx with T2 Feb 2. My gastroparesis which had been controlled since gastric bypass reared its ugly head also and I am now back on reglan for that. I currently take 2000mg of Metformin (1000K 2x daily) and then added glyburide as my sugars were still in the 200's every morning.


I ran out of test strips on Thursday so haven't tested the past couple days but it STILL has been hovering anywhere from 215 to 170 every morning (closer to the higher end of the spectrum). I feel like crap all the time. Constantly thirsty, hungry, tired, nauseated (take 50mg Phenergan as needed for this), and have had some bouts which included very shaky and feeling disoriented or knowing I needed to do something then standing around helplessly woolgathering trying to figure out if I should eat, what, how much etc. I tested once during one of these episodes and bs was at 75 (doesn't sound too low but my body was NOT amused!)

I have extreme swelling in my left leg and moderate in my right. Despite doubling up on my lasix to 80mg daily the swelling in the left leg is never gone and the right leg swells right back up daily too. Currently I am pretty frustrated. I haven't adopted an official diet yet but have been trying to eat better and not eat junk food. Guess that isn't going to be good enough.

Anyways, I wanted to rejoin the chat and see if anyone has any words of advice. I am not insured so my doctor is doing what he can for me that I can afford (med-wise). He checked my liver and kidney functions in Feb when I was dx with T2 and they were normal as was my iron panel - I stay anemic due to gastric bypass in 2000).

Other meds I take include 1800 gabapentin for peripheral neuropathy, blood pressure meds, blood thinner (after mini-stroke in 2008), voltaren for very bad OA and possibly RA, pain meds and muscle relaxers due to widespread pain and mobility issues in both shoulders and both knees and ankles. My mobility is very limited in terms of moving about daily and excercise (currently not aware of anything I can do successfully). Finally, I have frequent debilitating migraines and take meds for them as well. I have other issues that pop up as well but those are the main ones.

I am 46 years old and feel like I am 90 both in how I feel physically plus having to take the little brown bag with all my meds in it.

So, that is where I am at. I hope it gets better soon.....

Hugs,
Kellye

Hey girls! Posting from not-so-sunny Southern California again today. Yesterday I ended up walking three miles and it was beautiful. Saw seagulls, sailboats and the Paramount Studios trucks setting up for location shoots for the show Bent. No stars... Went to see "Salmon Fishing in the Yemen" last night. Such a sweet movie! Funny and charming.

Fbs was 150 this morning. I had planned to wake up at 4 to eat a hard-cooked egg so I might see if I could change that dawn phenomena thing, but I went to bed so late last night, plus I had a beer at dinner AND I just realised that I forgot to take my Met ER! Should I just take it now or wait till tonight? I'm on 500mg.

Time to do some Googling on that...see ya later!

Wow Kellye, having all those issues and no insurance is a real challenge. I can understand why you feel old, you are on more meds than my 81 year old father. Many of these problems seem interconnected too.
I think Rie's advice is good, just move something from time to time. You could also go to the library and check on books on Isometrics too. THese are exercises you do without "moving". I'd recommend a holistic practitioner, but that isn't cheap either. HOpe you and your doc find a way to help improve things for you.
Georgia, if you have missed a dose of metformin by more than a few hours, it is best just to take the next dose early and not double up, according to the manufacturer's recommendations.
Got to yoga today, and really enjoyed it. I shopped for about 3 hours with my friend, and found a couple of possibilities. Glad I could snap pics on my cell, and will use these to refer to as I keep shopping, and decide if I go back to that store for those or find other things. I can't shop for longer than that, as I don't "love" shopping. Did enjoy the time with my friend.
GOnna watch a movie on pay-per-view tonight with DH, just a nice quiet nite.
happy weekend friends.