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How can I stop torturing myself?
I'm new to this forum and I joined because I thought that maybe someone here either is experiencing the same thing or has been been experiencing the same thing that I have. I've tried everything--a psychiatrist, talking to my boyfriend, talking to my parents, and nothing has worked. I just need some advice.
I'm 19 and I've been horrifically overweight since I was young. I need to lose about 90 pounds to be a decent weight and I can't help but feel that it's impossible. I've tried many times in the past with some success, but I've mostly experienced failure. I suffer from depression, anxiety, and low self-esteem. I have medication for the first two, but it's the self-esteem that always gets me down. I've always felt that I'm "below" other human beings because I'm not pretty or thin. Even though my boyfriend of 2 years reassures me that I'm fine the way I am, I only believe him for a short while. When I'm feeling down on myself, I have a tendency to make things worse: I'll read the unkind comments about overweight people on Yahoo articles related to obesity in any way, I starve myself, and sometimes I consider self-mutilation. Other days I'm okay and I find that a nap settles all of my emotional issues. My biggest problem is believing that I can lose weight. I want it to be a quick process, but I know it's not. I want to stop being teased and laughed at. I want the little voice in my head to stop criticizing my every move simply because I'm fat. Since I have anxiety, I also want to stop worrying about my health. I try to lose weight, but my lifestyle plans always backfire on me. I get confused with what to eat, when to eat, and so on. The only thing I've managed to do is wean myself off of pop/soda. When I'm depressed or bored, I binge eat. In short, I'm looking for methods to get myself motivated and stop being so hard on myself. I would appreciate it if someone could share their stories and or advice. |
Well, first is putting the problems in the right buckets.
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Like wake up your inner cheerleader some more so she can go "Hey! WTG! You SO called that one right!" :carrot: Quote:
You can decide to excuse them for being dingdong heads. And let it go that way for the interest of your own mental health. (I recc this. You can decide YOUR mental health and well being are more important than ding dong head opinons.) You can decide other people are in charge of your self esteem and give your power away. And internalize ALL things people send your way willy nilly. (Do not recc this decision!) Really you have to recognize in your thinking that it is up to YOU how you REACT to your feelings. To feel things sometimes? Not controllable. We just feel it when we feel it. To decide how to react to the feeling? IS CONTROLLABLE. We can decide things all the time. Any time. Even deciding NOT to decide anything is a choice. Quote:
We ALL have some kind of monkey on our back. And he needs to be dealt with firmly. Even being at goal weight? You would not be happy because of the monkey still going on with his monkey noises and your inner cheerleader is not being feed to make her strong enough to battle him! Remember to keep things in the right health buckets. Remember you are in charge of yourself. Learn to catch yourself when it is getting to be too much monkey talk and inner cheerleader needs to step it up. That is the first step. Next is recognizing the trigger situation 2 How you feel about it. Hot? Angry? Nervous? 3) How did you decide to react to the feelings? Did you even decide TO REACT IN CONTROLLED WAY or just decided to let the bad feeling monkey drive you wherever? (Monkey's a bad driver!) 4) Did you try a new thing? What did you learn from trying it that way? What could you try next time if it did not work? Did you feed the inner cheerleader some for at least TRYING a new approach? Get your inner cheerleader stronger by exercising her more. It's ok if she's a little weak right now. Work with her instead and stop feeding the monkey! You do sound like you can spot when monkey thoughts are happening. Just don't know how to fight them off. My parents are learning this system to help with dad's anxiety and other issues. So he can learn how to get rid of his bad monkey thoughts and work on his inner cheerleader more. http://www.lowselfhelpsystems.org/sy...l-language.asp But however it is you learn to do it with that recovery support group or something else .... get the monkey off the back. Makes weight loss process so much easier without comments from the monkey. So in your shoes, I'd work on shooing monkey thoughts first. Then work on weight loss monkey free. Some people can manage to work on both at the same time, but it is ok if you cannot and have to take it in smaller steps. Take a time out to give yourself the props for trying! OFTEN! Start feeding your inner cheerleader more and feeding the inner monkey less. GL! :hug: A. |
It's good that you recognize what your problems are and that you're getting treatment for your depression and anxiety. If you're not seeing a counselor to work on your self-esteem and binge eating issues (or if your counselor isn't very helpful), I'd suggest that you find somebody who can help you with that. If that's not a possibility (or even if it is, actually), I think you might want to look into doing some work on your own with self-help books (if you're not already). A book that my shrink "prescribed" for me, and that I have found very, very useful, is Feeling Good by David Burns. It's aimed at people who are dealing with depression, has a whole section on building self-esteem, and you can work on the stuff by yourself.
Getting off of soda is a great accomplishment! Congrats for that! Pop is bad in so many ways; it's great that you've kicked the habit. :carrot: Because your weight is so high, unless you have some specific health problems that affect your body's ability to process food and respond appropriately to it, I'm not sure that you need to get wrapped up in a super strict plan at this point. There are pretty few hard and fast rules for healthy eating, and if you look around the boards you'll see people who are doing all sorts of different plans and losing weight at a safe pace. For me, the easiest and most effective method for managing my eating has been to make simple changes that I think I can stick with. If you're not even sure what changes to make, you may want to consider scheduling some sessions with a dietitian or joining Weight Watchers or a similar program that can provide some basic guidelines and help you build good habits. Although I'm not a member of WW now, the information provided in their materials and meetings gave me knowledge (and recipes) that I continue to use. If that's not possible or desirable, continue to see what people on here are doing and continue educating yourself about healthy eating - but don't get hung up on finding the perfect plan. Everybody's "perfect" is different, and it will probably take you some time and experimentation to find out what types of foods and what eating schedule work best for you. In the meantime, it might be more useful for you to just work on making little changes and improvements in your eating habits. Good luck! |
Here is the story I was looking for. Stop feeding your inner bad dog and teach it to heel!
HTH! A ---------- An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. "A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy. "It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego." He continued, "The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person, too." The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?" The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed." |
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xSarabean: Things will get better. You are 19. You are on the verge of being a grown-up. You are about to go to college, or get a job. You will find yourself. You will find something that makes you proud to be you. I don't care if it's your dream job or crocheting. You'll find it. People who tease you now are doing so because they have their own miseries. Everyone has misery to work through. Understand that people hurt each other because they're trying unsuccessfully to unload their misery on someone else. It won't work, of course, but that's human nature. You are not less of a person because someone else is miserable and takes it out on you. You are just another person, with your own share of misery. You're no different from anyone else. |
You say you don't know much about healthy eating, but I'll bet you have SOME idea. Just start with portion control, cutting out processed foods, and getting a balance between different types of food. That's all. Do this for a couple of weeks, then start fine-tuning by learning about calories and macronutrients (carbs, protein and fat). You can Google all this stuff to get more ideas.
As people often say on this board, a year from now you'll be glad you started today. Freelance |
Sarabean, I have thirty+ years on you, but am quite familiar with your dilemmas. From someone with a little more life experience under her belt, but by no means an expert, try giving yourself smaller goals to start when it comes to weight loss; take it 5-10lbs at a time - it's a much more manageable number and easier to remain motivated. With each success, you have the knowledge that you can succeed. I can empathize with your frustration, but taking charge starts with the small beginning steps and sticking to your resolve while also remaining kind to yourself when you might occasionally fail. Weight loss is a process that involves far more than simply eating less. You have computer access, so begin researching the fundamentals of healthy eating and strive to incorporate the principles into your everyday life - there are many, many wonderful recipe blogs and websites that promote meals to aid in weight loss. And never underestimate the power of exercise - even something as simple as taking a walk around the block once or twice a day can do wonders to your general sense of well being. By learning to take charge in smaller chunks, you may feel less overwhelmed. Remember - a small victory is still worth celebrating.
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I'm new here too and have had some mental/verbal abuse before I started to lose weight. (luckly that male isn't in my picture anymore) I'll tell you what I did and all in all, I think it helped me lose 40pounds. 1) make a plan and stick with it! 2) every week build on that plan by adding two-three things to it.They can be big or small ideas and practices to add. Example, start drinking unsweet tea instead of soda. 3) exercise: just start somewhere, anywhere, it could be walking for starters. and you would be surprised at how much of a difference that will make on you physically and mentally. Personally, it gave me time to myself to just zone out and meditate in away. 4) do things that make you happy. Start with the small things. 6) find a song, lyric, quote, ect that inspires you or motivates you. Something so simple can do sooooo much. Example: every time I felt much like what you're describing I would say to myself a part of a song that made so much since to me. "Now the world can be an unfair place at times But your lows will have their compliment of highs. And if anyone should cheat you. Take advantage of or beat you raise your head. And wear your wounds with pride" this was my motivator and still is. 7) above all, make sure you are doing this for all the right reasons. Make this about you and not what someone else thinks. That would just be feeding that bad dog dessert on a silver platter.
I hope this will at least give you an idea on how/where to start. Its going to be arduous but well worth the work. But in the end, you can look back at all that hard work and say to your self "I did that. That is my work right there and I am proud of it. No one else did that but me." :p It sounds like you have the want, now just implement that desire to change the things you want. You just need to find your courage!:dance: |
It takes a lot of effort to change your thinking patterns, but it's not going to be an overnight thing. Nothing comes easily, and quick fixes are like cheating yourself out of the best results. So take the time to do some research and learn how to start eating healthy and start loving to exercise! I know it's not easy, but as time goes by you will get stronger physically and mentally! So don't give up on yourself, because you're the only one who can make a change. Everyone in this forum is just a great source of information, inspiration and motivation, but it's up to you to use all of it and put it to good use. I starved myself in high school and lost about 30lbs, and believe me I regret it. My boobs and arms sagged a bit from doing that. You really don't want to cause your body damage by doing anything drastic, so don't stress out and take your time with losing weight. You should only be losing about 2-3lbs a week. Believe me, I've fallen off the diet wagon sooo many times, but what matters is that you keep trying and never give up on yourself.
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everybody can give you all the advice in the world. if you ask 100 ppl, you'll get 100 answers ranging from "do nothing - you're perfect just as you are" to "just forget it - there's no point even trying" depending on how positive or negative your relationship is with that person and what their own personal hangups are. it's YOUR decision who you're going to put your faith in. Quote:
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you have a boyfriend - think of all the ppl who are single no matter what they try. your appearance is the first thing and the last thing in a relationship - it's the first thing that gets someone's attention at the start, and when it's matured, it's the last thing that matters. heck, my boyfriend's a hindu from trinidad who - if i were to be bluntly honest - quite resembles those carvings on Aztec temples or even a bullfrog when he packs the weight on (i hate the fact that he can look down at his gut, frown, and two weeks later it's gone). Quote:
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as for what to eat, when, etc, that's education and knowledge. me, i eat every 3hrs - that means if i have to stop working and make a quick trip to the bathroom to knock back a protein shake, then that's what i do. for the bingeing, binge away - as long as it's the right stuff. me, i'm on a very-low-calorie diet, medically supervised through my family doctor (it was literally a matter of life, life in a wheelchair, a living death in a coma from stroke, or death before i'm 50 and i'm only 45!). my "binge" food is veggies - i can eat all the (plain, undressed, tossed) salad i want. the amount you'd have to eat to actually damage a diet is probably physically impossible. summary: - line yourself up with a mental health professional you respect and trust who can help you reprogram your unhealthy mental habits - take the time to educate yourself on healthy eating habits - consult a reputable website or a dietitian in order to determine a healthy weight and develop an eating plan that works for YOU - find YOUR activity - maybe you only walk the dog now, so look into agility training; maybe you prefer water classes such as aquarobics; barefoot running is really popular these days or you could ride a bike. whatever it is. - do not weigh yourself daily - weigh yourself weekly at the very most, less would be better (biweekly or monthly). - reward yourself (gold stars work nicely) every day you keep on track. - every time you slip off, pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and carry on where you left off. |
xSarabean,
I feel your pain. I have suffered from low self-esteem my whole life and it has gotten better as I've recognized it, but also gotten worse as I've gotten older for other reasons. Great advice from these ladies. A psychologist will help you. The challenge with some of the most debilitating mental health problems is that the most effective treatment is Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT). Because I am a private person, or, rather, feel too low about myself to admit my deepest thoughts and fears, therapists have never really heard my deepest issues. But that doesn't mean they haven't helped. It's the work at home that is most effective. I recommend two books: The Feeling Good Handbook by David Burns. He wrote the manual that most psychologists use for CBT and this is a step by step workbook to get you through it. It's super long but it was a lifesaver for me. If you can't commit to all those pages, Ten Days to Self Esteem by the same author is a good starter. A therapist is a good facilitator while you use the books for homework, because he or she will help break down your thinking when you aren't able to. BUT, the workbooks are good because you can use them every day and are a good help for those of us who are private or still too afraid to say some things out loud to other people. You might find this helps your weight loss, too. Good luck...keep posting! I think you have kindred spirits in this group. Peace, jerzygal |
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OP, are you me?
Seriously, we sound very similar. Except for the boyfriend. I don't think I'm ready to start going down that road, lol. Pretty much everything you said I have been through/am going through. I've been overweight most of my life and have steadily gained since I was around 13/14 (before then I was a relatively normal weight, though still very paranoid about my body and convinced I was huge). I too suffer from depression and anxiety, and extremely low self-esteem. I have also internalized the ridiculous belief that people who are smaller than me are somehow 'better' or 'smarter' than I am. I know that's not true, but it is very difficult to dislodge an idea or belief which has taken root inside your brain. I really empathize with you on that one. "My biggest problem is believing that I can lose weight. I want it to be a quick process, but I know it's not. I want to stop being teased and laughed at. I want the little voice in my head to stop criticizing my every move simply because I'm fat. Since I have anxiety, I also want to stop worrying about my health. I try to lose weight, but my lifestyle plans always backfire on me. I get confused with what to eat, when to eat, and so on. The only thing I've managed to do is wean myself off of pop/soda. When I'm depressed or bored, I binge eat." All of this -- and I mean all of it -- is me too. I get very disheartened when I think about how much weight I have to lose (about the same amount as you, incidentally) and I desperately want a quick fix. It sucks to be putting in the hard work I am putting in now and have very little to show for it. People can't notice yet; I'm still very big, and it feels like forever will pass before I'll get anywhere with my weight. But let me tell you -- it is worth it. I've lost inches off my stomach in just three weeks. I can now fit into things I couldn't fit into before. Today, I fitted into a cinema seat that just a short while ago was strangling me. Once you stop eating crap and exercising a little, everything starts to fall into place. You stop thinking about the road ahead and start focusing more on the mini-goals you will achieve along the way. You will feel more energetic and less depressed. You'll feel like a new life is just around the corner. You'll realize that you don't have to be trapped inside your body forever. And believe me, I know what that's like and it's a horrible feeling, not being able to do things smaller people can do: Being able to walk around in public and not be stared and sniggered at -- to just blend into the crowd, for example. All of this is possible for us. You've already made a wonderful change in cutting back on your soda. That is one less thing you have to worry about. Before I started this diet I did the same and gradually reduced my sugar intake. The longing for food is much less painful when you're not hankering for sweets. You CAN do this. I'm 23 years old and I regret not doing this when I was 18-19. I have wasted so much time. I can't waste any more. And you are still so young -- do this now before five years passes and you're still struggling with your weight. Start small with the exercise. I started with daily half-hour walks, around three weeks ago, and I have lost almost seventeen pounds. Cut back drastically on your salt-intake, up the amount of water you drink, make sensible low-sugar, low-GI choices for breakfast and lunch, with fruit for snacks, and eat lean protein (like chicken breast) with vegetables (preferably greens) for dinner, and I can guarantee you'll be feeling very differently three weeks from now. Good luck, and PM me any time you need support. We seem to have a lot in common. :hug: |
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"When I'm feeling down on myself, I have a tendency to make things worse: I'll read the unkind comments about overweight people on Yahoo articles related to obesity in any way..." I do this too. So nice to know I'm not alone. |
I deal with negative self-talk too, and one thing that helps me is positive affirmations. It feels REALLY weird when you first start, but it gets easier eventually, and after awhile it becomes a habit. Plus, it's easy. Here's what I do:
I wrote the following phrase on a Post-It and taped it to my bathroom mirror: I accept myself unconditionally RIGHT NOW. Every morning and every night, I look at myself in the mirror and say it out loud. It sounds stupid, right? But it really does change the way you think about yourself over time. Plus, it's free and easy, so there's nothing to lose by having a little chat with yourself in the mirror a couple times a day. I wish you luck. A negative self-image is a very difficult thing to overcome, especially when we don't feel like we deserve to overcome it. But it can be done, I promise. Losing weight helps a lot with that as well, as long as you can learn not to beat yourself up about set-backs and slip-ups along the way. |
Everyone is different, especially the way our complicated minds and personalities work. I happen to have OCD, so diets or eating plans start out ok, then I get to where I am obsessed about every bite, then get feeling so crappy, then depressed........
I am trying a "ten pounds at a time" frame of mind rather than looking at how far I have to go. It might work for me, I know in the past looking at the culmination of any long project (school, saving for retirement, even having a baby) would freak me out, like I couldn't fathom the timeframe, and it would fill me with anxiety. So, one day at a time eating healthy, concentrate on ten pounds then worry about the rest after that. Oh, and in the past month I lost ten pounds, the stretchy "bigger" jeans are getting thrown out, and I have been wearing ones I couldn't get into two months ago and congratulating the **** out of myself all day long rather than counting up how far I have to go:) Hope it helps with the weight thing, but already know it's helping with my attitude and overall wellbeing. |
Wow, I'm nearly twice your age and I feel the same way. The funny thing is while I was reading your post, I kept thinking that this young woman should do everything she can to love herself. She should congratulate herself for giving up soda (no small feat). She should enjoy being 19 because time flys andlife is very, very short.
And then I asked myself why can't I do these things for myself? At 36, shouldn't I know better? Truth is, this is hard stuff to deal with. It's hard to love the lady in the mirror. But somehow, we must. I'm struggling terribly with this, but this afternoon I told myself something positive about my body. Now, I never do that. Not ever. But today, I decided to show a little love for myself. I just said "thank God for my body because it allowed me to carry and give birth to my daughter." I'm going to try to do this every day. Maybe you should try it too. Maybe we should try focusing on the good things our bodies can do rather than how our bodies look (right now). Believe me, it's hard and I don't have all the answers either. But, we've got to try something. We are born loveable. That I know. |
About unkind comments others make regarding weight: I have known many people who made a big deal about weight and I swear that for many of them, the only thing they could be "proud" of is the fact they were skinny. I have known alcoholics, welfare cheats, one crazy woman who have blow by blow stories of pinning down her kids and slapping them over and over and about driving drunk with them in the car, one woman who constantly cheated on her husband and abused prescription drugs until it ruin her life and was a contributing factor in her daughter's death, I could go on and on.
For many, "skinny value" is a self serving bias, they have no problem being skinny so they blow it up as being so important to feed their ego. I have gottne to the point of almost paranoia when I learn someone places great value on skinny, or money, or expensive items, wondering what horrible, potentially dangerous trait or habit they are covering for. Then there is the subset of skinny worshipers who abuse laxatives (can you believe in the past five years I have known two women over 65 who complained about pooping themselves in public quite regularly because of the laxative abuse). In short, it's their problem, really, and for all you young people I wish I could save you some of the years of anguish regarding weight, because when I look back at my life, I can't believe how much pain putting value on other's stupid opinions cost me. I can also say that I have been thin (a little unhealthy about it) and even then when others would make horrid remarks regarding someone a little larger, it hurt and I didn't like at all. |
I know this is a little late, but
I'd like to thank everyone who responded. I've been watching what I eat (with a few minor setbacks) but I haven't been able to weigh myself due to the fact that I don't have a scale in my dorm. But I'll be at a university closer to home next semester, so I'll have one available.
I really like the idea of the food notebook and giving myself a gold star sticker on each day I've done okay. I use an app on my iPhone to record what foods I eat, but I'm thinking about writing it down instead. I try to walk around campus every day, but some days it's really too hot out (I live in Florida, the heat is unbearable) so I skip out. However, I will be joining a 24/7 gym when I go back home, so I'll get most of my exercise there in the air-conditioning. As for my low self-esteem, I can't say it has improved, but I've been trying. I've found my best trick to all of this is just telling myself that I'm not on a diet, I just eat within my limits and get on with my life. It's been helping me to see it more as a change rather than getting disappointed that I'm not losing weight. |
I COMPLETELY understand. You are already on the right track. If you can't walk around your campus, find other ways to get a good cardio session in while in your dorm. If you have a roommate ask them if they would like to join. There is a DVD called "Walk away the pounds" or something like that lol. They go from 1 mile to like 10 miles. and all you have to do is pop it in the dvd player and go. You just walk in place with your arms pumping and you get your heart rate up and are sweating in no time. You can get it at target or walmart for pretty cheap.
like I said, you are already on the right path! You just need to tell yourself that you are beautiful and you can do anything. If you have been picked on your motivation can be to prove those ***holes wrong! and when you lose the weight they will just look stupid. You can do it. I/we believe in you. This forum is great for tips, tricks, motivation, and support. You do your thing and we will be behind you every step of the way! ♥ |
hi Sarabean,
I think everyone who has ever been overweight gets into a funk at one point or another. I have never been thin. I've always been "chubby", at my heviest i was 298 lbs. I lost the weight very slowly, but steadily, and it hasn't come back. Even when i get off the wagon. My physician once told me: The faster you lose weight, the faster you gain it after the diet is gone. He's right I think. Even if it takes you 2 months to loose 10 lbs, it's still 10lbs that you lost. It's still doing something, that not a lot of people can do. My suggestion is as follows: Go see your pcp, have them do some basic blood work for you and make sure they check your TSH, Glucose, and Insulin levels. Because of your weight, you may have insulin resistance, pre-diabetes, or your thyroid may have blown out. I had insulin resistance and my thyroid stopped working which is why i gained so much weight. Even if you've always been heavy, when your around that age, your body dynamics still change. You're now starting to level out, so check yourself out first just to make sure you should stay away from a certain diet, if your at a certain point. There is also the blood type diet that a lot of people seem to do really well on. You eat certain foods according to your blood type, because that's what your body needs most of. Check it out! (Some people are cursed with no pastas, and others -me- are blessed with pasta!) Also, I strongly recommend making an appointment with a therapist. NOT a psychiatrist. A psychiatrist you see when you are in some need of medication. First go to either a psychologist, or a counselor. They will help you to learn how to turn your negative thoughts about your self. Cognitive therapy is really effective. Just keep in mind, it generally takes 30 days for the adult mind to adjust to the new thought process. Also try affirmations every day before bed, and everyday when you wake up. something like "I am a wonderful person who is a great friend and deserves the best things in life. I will loose 2 lbs this week because I can do anything I set my mind to." Word it for what will work for you. Never use but, however, can't, or maybe. It defeats the purpose. Support from family and friends is very important. Maybe your roomie or someone from your dorm is willing to go to the gym with you every day to cheer you on. You can do anything you put your mind to. Everyone is here to help. |
There is so much wisdom in this thread! I think I'll be referring to it, myself, quite often.
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If you don't want to record pounds lost, put a penny in the jar for every positive day you have, or every day you exercise. I think you'll enjoy seeing how it all adds up. Best of luck to you. |
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