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Rochester 06-24-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bunti (Post 3355820)
Rochester thanks for the direction to the site with the calorie and nutrient calculator, and the hint about Spark People.

It makes a big difference! figured out calories and nutrients, and changed the nutrition goals on my nutrition tracker. Wahoo!!!!

Glad to help! :)

walking2lose 06-24-2010 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bright Angel (Post 3356209)
I've read "Good Calories Bad Calories" 3 times in the past 3 years,
and recently purchased another copy to read on my Kindle.
I find the book worthwhile, but challenging,
even though I have a doctorate in Law.

This December - 2010, I hear that Gary Taubes is publishing a similiar,
but far less technical book, "What makes you Fat".
He said that he wrote "Good Calories Bad Calories" for the medical community,
and that he wrote his new book to get the same concepts to the general public.

Oh my. I think I should've waited for his new book :dizzy: I haven't received it, but I'm hearing from lots of people that it's daunting.

My question is if science backs up his ideas about nutrition, WHEN is the medical community going to come on board? I am getting lots of "concern" when I tell people I'm avoiding grains, sugars, etc. "Oh, Atkins doesn't work -- you gain it all back," "But you NEED lots of whole grains in your diet," etc. I'm following Primal Blueprint, and frankly, I'm not planning to lose weight and then start chowing on sugary carb laden foods (or breads or other grains). I'm getting carbs from vegetables and fruits, thank you! I feel so much better physically, and I've now lost 10 lbs. For years, I thought this was an unhealthy way to eat too, but truly, isn't the way your body feels a huge marker of success?

I do have a couple concerns and trepidations -- am I eating too much sat fat, are my kidneys working too hard (I am peeing a LOT), etc.

Hopefully I'll get the book today and can take a look myself.

Thanks all!

katerina11 06-25-2010 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by walking2lose (Post 3356457)
Oh my. I think I should've waited for his new book :dizzy: I haven't received it, but I'm hearing from lots of people that it's daunting.

My question is if science backs up his ideas about nutrition, WHEN is the medical community going to come on board? I am getting lots of "concern" when I tell people I'm avoiding grains, sugars, etc. "Oh, Atkins doesn't work -- you gain it all back," "But you NEED lots of whole grains in your diet," etc. I'm following Primal Blueprint, and frankly, I'm not planning to lose weight and then start chowing on sugary carb laden foods (or breads or other grains). I'm getting carbs from vegetables and fruits, thank you! I feel so much better physically, and I've now lost 10 lbs. For years, I thought this was an unhealthy way to eat too, but truly, isn't the way your body feels a huge marker of success?

I do have a couple concerns and trepidations -- am I eating too much sat fat, are my kidneys working too hard (I am peeing a LOT), etc.

Hopefully I'll get the book today and can take a look myself.

Thanks all!

The medical community is notoriously slow, but the recent meta analysis on saturated fat is helping. New ADA recommendations changed within the last year to support low carb dieting for diabetes. USDA is coming out with a new recommendation which is supposedly less carb focused.

So change is happening, but trickling down to PCP's will be tough and getting cardiologists to accept anything other than Ornish will be really tough! I work in an ICU and cringe daily when I hear stuff.

walking2lose 06-25-2010 11:13 AM

Interesting. At least it's happening, albeit slowly. I am really trying to convince my husband (type 1 diabetic) to go primal with me. I'm still waiting for me book - will let you know how I do with it and may come to you with questions. :)

Bunti 06-25-2010 01:13 PM

Grrrr.....
 
I happened to be at the same church picnic with a diabetes educator (nurse practitioner/dietitian) from our local hospital. I had helped myself to salad with homemade Italian dressing, 1/4 of a BBQ chicken (no sauce, a rub) a big serving of roasted peppers, onions, zucchini drizzled with olive oil and basil. Unsweeted iced tea with a slice of lemon too. When offered corn bread, garlic bread etc, I said "No thanks, I am limiting wheat." I was tickled with my low carb tasty choices.

No one else blinked an eye, but the diabetes guy felt the need to criticize my plate and the amount of fat on it. Told me it would better if I ate the beans and bread and watermelon than the skin off the chicken.

Beans were baked, loaded with sugar and from a can, bread: white, smothered with butter and cheese, watermelon-- well a little further down the road I may have some watermelon.

He proceeded to tell me how I should have the "recommended low fat diet". With the same breath, he talked about how weight loss surgery "cured" diabetes, and allowed all foods. And I needed 5 servings of grains.

I think I may start a new thread with this. I felt confronted in a fairly negative way, as he went on and on I finally found my voice.

I just said, my doctor is monitoring this diet (she is) and he backed off. But he is the primary diabetes education resource in our small city.

koceank29 06-28-2010 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by elisaannh (Post 3351512)
I went Paleo low carb back in the late 1990's. I was completely off all grains. When I stopped and ate bread, I became so sick. The doctor was kind, he said we could go through all kinds of testing, or I could simply stop eating grains! lol. I don't question my body's wisdom. Sometimes when we are saturated with a high carb diet we don't pay attention to all of the discomforts and reactions, we think just being "fat" is the answer to it. But I am currently 241 pounds and feel better than I have in many years, including the years I was thin and on 100 carbs a day. I will stay right here in my under 40 range for the rest of my life. It just feels too good to make grains a desire to pine over.

So true...I thought my aches and pains were because I was fat and getting older. Now that I have cut out grains, I have no aches and pains and have tons of energy, if I'd only known the truth earlier!

Bunti 06-29-2010 11:04 PM

I feel so much better off grains as well-although I do have the occasional 2tablespoons of oat bran, and use flax meal--they make my low carb versions of things do-able.

mascara blue 07-05-2010 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bunti (Post 3350314)
Not sure what is going on with me but ate wheat toast and BOOM. Ankle swelled, got REALLY hungry and ache all over.

I have been tested for a wheat allergy and celiac but came out negative... I love baked goods, but it may be that I have a sensitivity that is not easy to identify??? I am 7 pounds up since yesterday.

Anyone else have something like this??? I have been on low carb diet, feeling great, but missing some of my faves..... don't want to feel like this though, phew! (Staying below 20 grams net carbs per meal-- even with the toast)

I feel your pain!! I have gluten intolerance. WHen I eat anything with gluten in it, my stomach bloats up, my weight shoots up, my eyes become puffy and my ankles and feet swell up and my shoes become tight. I also do great on low carb but crave bread and particularly pizza so much sometimes it hurts. Maybe try gluten free bread next time.

Bunti 07-06-2010 01:49 PM

I have been reading other threads, and certain foods must be forbidden to me-- can't have them ever. Some of those in my immediate circle seem to think that I should be able to moderate my consumption of some foods, rather than eliminate them. But for me processed carbs, especially wheat and most hi GI foods are just plain wrong and negative.

Every time I have them, I either feel awful, or they trigger more eating or remorseful thinking. None of these 3 things make me feel good about myself, so I am choosing not to do them. Gee, those results kinda sound like addiction, don't they????:dust:


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