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L.J. 08-25-2006 07:42 AM

Calorie Deficiet Meaning???
 
If your target calories for one day is, say 1300, and you only eat say 800, then the deficiet is 500??
Am I understanding that correctly??
And also if you burned a lot of calories exercising would that add to your deficiet. if you know how many Cal. you burned??


Thanks

Heather 08-25-2006 08:18 AM

LJ -- A calorie deficit is the difference between the calories you consume and the calories you burn.

Calories consumed is in the food you eat, and is relatively straightforward (provided you have a relatively accurate assessment)

Calories burned is all the calories you burned doing everything that day. This has several components, all of which are affected by your current weight (heavier people use more calories to do everything) and how quickly you burn calories (your metabolism).

Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) -- is the calories you consume just to stay alive. Using myself as an example, my online calorie program estimates that I use approx 1600 calories just staying alive.

Daily Activities -- Everything you do -- from brushing your teeth, to typing burns calories. Some of us are more active than others, have jobs where we move around, all of which affects how many calories we burn. Again, using me as an example, it is estimated that I burn about 650 calories in these daily activities, in a "lightly active" lifestyle (meaning I don't get a lot of activity in my job).

Exercise -- This may be the least of all the calories burned in a day... I may burn 200-300 in my daily exercise.

Keep in mind that it is difficult to know how many calories any individual actually burns -- these numbers are guesses.

So, add up all the activity numbers and subtract what you eat -- if activity > eating calories -- there is a deficit.

Get n healthy 08-25-2006 08:28 AM

Wow, great reply Wyllenn.

L.J. 08-25-2006 09:06 AM

Wyllen...thank you SO much for such a quick and thorough response!! What I have done is to count the calories burned on my treadmill (it counts calories, distance and time) and keep an excel sheet adding up what I have eaten and it automatically does the math. Am I on the correct track of keeping track???

By the way, I like what you all have to say....I have enjoyed reading here and thought you all wouldn't mind if I jumped in and ask a question.

Thank you so much again...

srmb60 08-25-2006 09:55 AM

You are more than welcome to pop in and join any time. The more the merrier!
Just don't forget what Wyllen said about all calories used, all the time.


Heather? can we cut and paste that if the subject comes up again?

Glory87 08-25-2006 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by L.J. (Post 1383548)
If your target calories for one day is, say 1300, and you only eat say 800,

Do not do this. 800 calories is dangerously low. Any daily caloric intake under 1000 should probably be done under a doctor's supervision. In my opinion (based on times in the past where I have done this) you are setting yourself up for failure. When I starved myself, I binged and the nasty restriction/binge cycle that always followed made me feel just terrible about myself. AND I was never able to lose weight and keep it off via the starvation diet. I managed to gain 60 lbs over 20 years "dieting".

Eating 1300 calories IS a caloric deficit under what you need to eat to MAINTAIN. You are already operating under a deficit.

Here is a good calculator to get an estimate for the calories you need to maintain your weight based on your height/weight/age/gender/activity level.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cal...ulator/NU00598

Here is an example how to get a 500 calorie deficit and still eat enough to stay satisfied and get all the vital nutrition your body needs to function.

If you need 2000 calories a day to maintain your weight loss and you want to create a 500 calorie deficit a day to try to get a 1 lb weekly loss (and even when you do everything perfectly, this doesn't always happen), you can:
  • Reduce calories to 1500 creating a 500 calorie deficit
  • Reduce calories to 1750 and burn 250 calories by exercise to create a 500 calorie deficit

Please do not try to lose weight on 800 calories a day. It is really unhealthy for you. Plus, as you lose weight, it will take fewer calories to move your body's mass around every day. Most people have to reduce calories to continue losing weight (they plateau). What are you going to do if you start plateauing at 800 calories...eat 500? Don't eat? It's a very scary place to be.

Also, keep in mind that eventually you are going to want to maintain your weight loss forever, what tools are you putting in place to ensure you can stick with it?

L.J. 08-25-2006 10:29 AM

Glory87-thank you for you insite...I guess in looking back at my spread sheet I did have some days of this low amount..so that being said.....if the example target is 1300 and 250 calores are burned leaving 1050 calories, than 250 more calories should be eaten?
Yikes, I hope I am not being a pain on my first day out here.

I am going to check your fitday and learn..... AND by the way your pictures are awesome...how many calories do you do a day.....oh maybe I will see that at fitday....and I am going back to your B and A pictures again...
Thank you so much for all of you insite

SusanB your STATS are fantastic...Very inspirational....how long did it take you....ALL by counting calories??
Keeping track of all calories used up through out the day may be tough. I was just keeping track of my treadmill burned calories...
I will get this right because I want to :) and I want very much to understand.
Thank you both.
Any insite is welcomed so as to learn from all of you.

PS - at the Mayo Clinic site it give calories for maintaining....what about being in the process of losing?? Oh never mind....I just RE read your post Glory87 :D

Glory87 08-25-2006 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.J. (Post 1383831)
Glory87-thank you for you insite...I guess in looking back at my spread sheet I did have some days of this low amount..so that being said.....if the example target is 1300 and 250 calores are burned leaving 1050 calories, than 250 more calories should be eaten?
Yikes, I hope I am not being a pain on my first day out here.

Keeping track of all calories used up through out the day may be tough. I was just keeping track of my treadmill burned calories...
I will get this right because I want to :) and I want very much to understand.

1300 is a little low to begin weight loss, it doesn't allow much room for plateaus. Eating 1500 a day and then burning additional calories on top of that sounds more reasonable. Eating enough calories a day ensures you will get all the nutrition you need to be healthy.

Honestly, I never got hung up on the exact deficit. I know everyone says that if you consume (burn) 3500 calories fewer a week you will lose 1 lb. There were weeks when I did everything absolutely perfectly and didn't lose weight. The week of my birthday I had an enormous fancy birthday dinner and several slices of cake and didn't work out, I lost 2 lbs. The math never worked for me, so I tried to eat a certain number of calories a day (1400-1600) and tried to work out everyday. That was sufficient for me to be successful.

I don't think there is any way to track the exact number of calories burned a day. It's also difficult to track the exact number of calories consumed a day (there are some people that put a tape measure around apples, I'm not willing to devote that much of my life to calorie counting).

If you starve your body, you set into motion metabolic effects that can take awhile to repair (muscle mass is consumed since it is metabolically active and takes more calories a day to maintain, metabolism slows down to need fewer calories a day, fat is retained to protect the body).

After 20 years of yoyo restrictive dieting, I was finally successful when I started eating. Here's the link to my very long post about how I lost weight (if you want):

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84601

I'm a definite believer in counting calories as long as the calories consumed are mostly healthy, whole foods. 1500 calories a day of poptarts and tostitos arent the same as 1500 calories a day of whole grains, vegetables, fruits, lean protein, low fat dairy and healthy fat!

L.J. 08-25-2006 12:34 PM

Glory...Thank You!! Such a powerful thread...thank you for sharing it with me.
I am going to give this the best shot I can without getting crazy.

ktandthesmurfs 08-25-2006 12:43 PM

Ok. I know a lot of people here are saying you need 2,000 cals a day to maintain but I have seen lots of calculaters and articles that say you need only 1,300. What'd the deal?

kaplods 08-25-2006 01:20 PM

You have to take all of the calculators and articles with a grain of salt (more like a bag), because they are all guesses and averages. 1300 is probably the absolute minimum (if you were bedridden and comatose) and 2000 is probably close to the average, but everyone is unique. What you eat, how active you are, and your unique metabolism are the greatest factors, only two of which you have any direct control over. Don't worry about the details, start with a calorie level and activity level you are comfortable with and watch the scale (not over one week, but over a couple months). If you're losing less than 1/2 lbs a week, then try eating 200 calories less and/or including more exercise. If you're losing more than 2 lbs a week, then eat more (I wouldn't recommend exercising less unless you've been overdoing it).

You can drive yourself crazy worrying about exactly how many calories you are burning - it's not something you can determine accurately enoubh to worry about.

L.J. 08-25-2006 02:54 PM

Since I am "SO" new at this I am going to go slow and be sensible....I just feel 2000 Calories seems like so much just starting out. I am being real careful in my intake and making really good choices.
..I really enjoy the conversation here.

Found this on line

Why Calorie Count?

Nutritionists, dieticians and other health professionals involved in helping people to lose weight, tend to agree that healthy eating and a low fat diet are essential for long term healthy weight loss. Losing weight by calorie counting helps to build your knowledge and awareness of what's in what you eat, and what your body really needs. Calorie counting is flexible enough to fit into most lifestyles and can accommodate personal taste, likes and dislikes. There are no forbidden foods when you calorie count - everything is allowed - as long as you eat less calories than you burn up each day you will lose weight, that's a scientific fact.



How to Lose Weight by Calorie Counting
First you need to work out how many calories you need each day to maintain your weight. For women, this averages around 2000, for men around 2500 (more if you are very over weight, very muscular - or very tall!). To lose weight you need to create a calorie deficit by consuming fewer calories than you burn. If you eat 500 calories less than you need each day you'll lose weight at the rate of one pound a week. If you eat 1,000 calories less than you need each day you'll lose two pounds each week. Your body will have to turn to its fat stores to make up your calorie deficit. It's recommended that you combine exercise (burning more calories) with healthy eating to create a calorie deficit.

L.J. 08-25-2006 02:57 PM

Quick question for kaplods/Colleen....Is it safe to use the calories burned when I treadmill....it calculates for me....usually I do 250 burned Calories, takes me a while and registers the distance about 1.7 miles...
Is that a safe assumption? What do you think? I'd appreicate your opinion.
Thank you

Stephanie Osborne 08-28-2006 01:49 PM

I wouldnt use the calories burned on the treadmill...I run 2.5 miles which should burn way more than walking 1.7 and end up about 140 calories burned the way the treadmill calculates it. I usually just use the calculator on fitday it nutridiary.com....Nutridiary has many more options that fitday does for workouts and I like it a lot better. SInce you are just starting out you may want to look over both.

Heather 08-28-2006 08:42 PM

Susan and others -- Glad you liked the response, and YES, feel free to use it again! In fact, I think I saved it on my computer for just such an occasion (since the question comes up frequently).

L.J. 08-29-2006 07:06 AM

stephie...Thank you for your input...it is important to me that I learn as best I can...that being said, I hate to think I perhaps didn't burn those calories I worked so hard at on the treadmill. I'm thinking I burned at least some :D
My W/I on Saturday showed a 3.6 loss

I will keep on keeping on though. I love watching the numbers change and take form.

I do want to ask though, what type workout would you consider counting as burning calories?? Please let me know, I'd appreiciate it.
I don't get too tangled up the the deficiet thing, because I honestly don't understand it....but I am SO enjoying counting and keeping track of calories IN!!

I love that everyone here is so willing to help....thank you all, and have a great day....
We, on the other hand, are in preparations for Ernesto.....i-ya-ya!!

determined2succeed 08-29-2006 03:22 PM

I find that unfortunately I don't lose at all unless my calories are between 1100 - 1300. I guess it all depends on the person! Trial and error is the best way to go vs. using a generic calculator or chart IMO.

L.J. 08-30-2006 04:52 AM

Mornin' All.....
D2S....I am one of those same people, having to keep my Calories low. ...I try staying at 1300 too. When I was counting WW pts at the range I was in...it capped at 1300 worth of calories in pts....so there is where I am (for now)
I had A LOT a calories yesterday...bad day :( "for me"...nearly 1800.
So today, I'll keep on keeping on.....and get a good workout in there too.
I am however, very much enjoying counting calories....
they do matter, and it's all about calories in and calories out FOR ME.
The deficiet thing I have not masterd yet, and guess I just don't quite get it.
I just subtract calories burned from my intake....getting that figure from an online activity burner....I just feel good that I get a good work out in....OH yeah, except for yesterday :mad:

Luv_Losing 09-10-2006 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephiewilliams (Post 1386864)
I wouldnt use the calories burned on the treadmill...I run 2.5 miles which should burn way more than walking 1.7 and end up about 140 calories burned the way the treadmill calculates it. I usually just use the calculator on fitday it nutridiary.com....Nutridiary has many more options that fitday does for workouts and I like it a lot better. SInce you are just starting out you may want to look over both.

Some people burn more calories then others do. For example, since you are only 124 lbs you burn less the I would doing the same exercise. If you walked for 40 minutes at 3 mph you would burn 124 calories (about your weight). I would burn 208 calories (about my weight of 207) and somebody that weighs 250 would burn twice as many calories as you would. Also, If I run 2.5 miles I would burn about the same amount of calories as if I walked 2.5 miles. It is just that it would take about twice as long for me to do it. I am not saying this is the case here as I am not sure how much L.J. weighs.

determined2succeed 09-10-2006 08:17 PM

We can ALL do it!!!
 
:hug: You can do it L.J.!

This is the first method EVER in my life that works (calorie counting) It is slowly but surely coming off... and I actually enjoy doing this because I feel like I am going towards something GOOD!!! Here's to everybody droppin' the pounds by countin' cals!!!! :hat:

L.J. 09-11-2006 06:35 AM

Thank you D2S and Luv Losing...

chick_in_the_hat 09-11-2006 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.J. (Post 1387615)
I do want to ask though, what type workout would you consider counting as burning calories?? Please let me know, I'd appreiciate it.

Hey LJ - I would say to start with a good brisk walk is just the ticket. You should be working up a sweat. Maybe set goals for yourself to either go a little farther or a little faster each week? Luv_losing is right, everyone burns a different amount of calories because of how much energy it takes to move a larger body. When you feel ready, add some weight training so you will be toned when you get to goal. :D

L.J. 09-12-2006 04:43 PM

Gina, thanks...I am adding more walking on my treadmill, and I work up a good healthy sweat...I have added more distance...and that does add to my calories burned.
Walking, even on the treadmill, is the ONE form of exercise I LOVE.
It's way too hot to walk outside here (SFla) for this Native New Yorker :D

Not a good day yesterday but a better one (so far) today!!


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