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mariamherrera 08-25-2009 06:35 PM

servings of fruit a day?
 
I've heard different amounts from different sources and I think the food pyramid is all off. so how many servings of fruit have you eaten a day and successfully lost or losing?

I love fruit. and lets face it none of us got obese by eating to much fruit. But i keep hearing that you shouldn't eat that many a day because of the sugars or that you should only eat them in the morning?

whats your opinion?

kaplods 08-25-2009 07:11 PM

I've never been a junk-food junkie, so I very much have gotten fat on too much fruit and other healthy foods. Some fruits are very easy to overindulge in, because they can pack a lot of calories into small packages. Also, being carb-sensitive (I don't like the word carb-addicted, but sometimes it comes close) I do find that foods high in sugars and starches (even naturally occuring ones) are more likely to trigger cravings and hunger spikes.

Lunch for me today, was a good example. I ate about 500 calories of watermelon. I did plan for it, and it was my entire lunch. I'm paying for it now, though as I'm now REALLY hungry as it approaches dinner time. That tends to happen to me when I have a meal too high in carbs - a few hours later and I'm ravenously hungry. If I'd had some protein and/or a bit of fat with lunch (even an ounce or two of cheese, or a carton of yogurt for example), I probably wouldn't feel absolutely starving right now. I should have cut back on the fruit, and included some protein/healthy fat.

I think a lot depends on the kind of fruit you choose also. Dried fruit and fruit juices are obviously more concentrated in calories than fresh, but a cup and a half of strawberries has about 70 to 80 calories, while one large banana can have 150 or more calories.

kiramira 08-25-2009 07:17 PM

There was an episode of a weight loss show up here called X-weighted that featured a girl who commuted 2 hrs each way to and from work. On the way to work, she ate an entire BAG of apples. As in, at least 12 apples. 12 apples at 90-ish calories = 1080 calories. As a snack. On the way to work. She weighed in at 280lbs. Thats a whole lot of calories for a snack...

Calories count! Doesn't matter what form they are in -- if you eat more calories than you consume, you'll store the excess as body fat. Your body doesn't say "OH here come an extra 90 calories over what I need BUT it is a cup of cherries so I won't store it!". It says "90 calories too many -- gotta store the excess". So calories do add up and you can gain weight if you overeat ANY type of food. SO, if you are calorie-counting and have no issue with the sugars/starches in some types of fruit (grapes/bananas for example), then eat what you like and count the calories...

IMHO I think that worrying overly about diet composition when you don't have any food-type issues might be not as productive as simply counting the calories and focussing your energies elsewheres!

:hug:

Kira

CountingDown 08-25-2009 07:35 PM

I eat more fruit now than I ever did at my high weight. I chose my fruits wisely, and plan for their calories. Portion size is something to consider when you eat fruit. Many, many fruits have very small portion sizes.

And, unlike some others, I DO need to balance my carbs/protein/fat to keep my cravings and mindless eating at bay.
I aim for two fruits per day (again - think small servings), and at least 4 vegetables. That gives me six fruits and veggies for the day.

mariamherrera 08-25-2009 07:48 PM

I never go over my calorie budget by eating fruit, i always stay with in. but my question is how many servings is recommended per day? I tend to have 4-5 all with in calorie limit of course. and a few people have told me i need to cut back to only 2 and only eat fruit in the morning. for me I find that when i crave something sweet i can eat a few chunks of pineapple or a few grapes or slices of apple and my craving to eat something sweet is satisfied and in my opinion It would be more healthy to eat the fruit then some cookies.

CountingDown 08-25-2009 07:56 PM

I often eat my fruit as a snack - usually something like half a banana and a piece of low-fat string cheese. I always try to eat protein with my fruits. And, I eat them any time of day - sometimes as my evening snack.

I usually eat no more than 250 calories of fruit per day, often less. And, like Colleen, I'm more likely to plan number of calories, than number of fruits because they do vary so widely in calorie and nutritional content.

JulieJ08 08-25-2009 08:17 PM

I usually have 3-4 servings, sometimes more if I feel like it. I seem to lose better when I'm eating plenty of fruit. And the more fruit I eat, the less junk or dessert I feel like eating.

Heather 08-25-2009 08:18 PM

I generally eat 2-4 servings of fruit a day. Sometimes as part of meals, sometimes as snacks. I eat fruit any time of day.

souvenirdarling 08-25-2009 08:23 PM

Some fruit are better than others, right? The sweeter, the higher in sugar. Therefore, fewer calories in green apples than red ones? Grapes and pineapple are high, most melons are lower. I cup of watermelon is only around 50 calories!!! 1/2 cantaloupe around a hundred. Add a bit of cottage cheese and yum!

I eat as much fruit as I can, often 3 a day, and it's never been a cause for trouble in my plans.

kaplods 08-25-2009 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mariamherrera (Post 2894188)
I never go over my calorie budget by eating fruit, i always stay with in. but my question is how many servings is recommended per day? I tend to have 4-5 all with in calorie limit of course. and a few people have told me i need to cut back to only 2 and only eat fruit in the morning. for me I find that when i crave something sweet i can eat a few chunks of pineapple or a few grapes or slices of apple and my craving to eat something sweet is satisfied and in my opinion It would be more healthy to eat the fruit then some cookies.

If your weight is going in the direction you want it to, you're feeling good, and in general, overall eating a wide variety of foods, and aren't experiencing hunger and/or fatigue spikes in reaction to some foods - you're good to go. Even the food pyramid is meant to be a guideline for healthy eating, not a set of food commandments set in stone.

I follow an exchange plan (where each exchange contains about the same number of calories). For example mine is 2 dairy (90 cal), 2 fruit (70 cal), 2 starch (80 cal) 3 fat (45 cal) 6 protein (60 cal), and 4 veggie (25 cal), and then 8 servings of "flex" exchanges that I can "spend" on any food as long as the contain about 60 - 80 calories each.

I LIKE exchange plans, and also I tend toward vitamin absorption issues, so I think exchange plans make more sense for me (for me, not for everyone), because it reminds me to get in foods I sometimes would otherwise forget.

But those 8 "flex" exchanges mean that some days I might have a very fruit-heavy diet (I could, in theory use them all on fruit, having 10 fruit servings a day - and I've done that before - though usually there are some potty issues to contend with).

There are no hard and fast rules here. If you're feeling good, losing weight, and not having hunger issues - don't worry about what other people tell you that you need to be doing.

There's a book The 80/10/10 Diet by Dr. Douglas N. Graham that argues (somewhat persuasively) that humans may have evolved as primarily (and almost exclusively) eating fruit, and just a bit of greens.

I personally, think that humans can thrive on many different diets. Native Eskimo (eating a traditional diet, and living a traditional lifestyle) did very well on a mostly meat and fat diet (with only small amounts of fruits, vegetables and herbs available only a small portion of the year).

Listening to diet advice is a bit like the Aesop's fable about the man, his son and the donkey http://www.bartleby.com/17/1/62.html

In essence, the moral being that there are a lot of opinions out there, and you can't please everyone.

kiramira 08-25-2009 09:06 PM

Ya, but the average lifespan of an Inuit was around 50 years on that diet, so whether or not they did very well is somewhat debatable.

I know the general recommendation is 5 servings fruits/veg per day. Some days I have 3 fruit/2 veg, other days 4 fruit/1 veg, and on others 1 fruit/4 veg. I just make sure I account for the caloric intake, that's all...

Kira

splendidsparrow 08-25-2009 09:17 PM

In a day I consume about...5 or more servings of fruit (yes, I eat a lot of fruit as a fruit salad with yogurt tends to be lunch, and a smoothie is breakfast), but I also take a multi vitamin to help with what I'm missing and have tons of veggies with supper.

Overall I think that you need to do what's good for you, if you can do well on 2 servings then great, 5 then thats good too. I personally go with what I want, figure out how much of that I can have (calorie wise), and then I have a meal plan to go with.

amynbebes 08-25-2009 09:53 PM

Around 2, sometimes more, sometimes less.

mygritsconfessions 08-25-2009 10:03 PM

I have 2 to 3 servings a day. Usually in my breakfast and early evening. I love my berries ;-)

prinny 08-25-2009 11:25 PM

I have 3-4 most days, sometimes more. I'm not really big on veggies since I can't digest them well but fruit is easier to digest so I have some with every meal and often as snacks. My Daily Plate lists 'Peach' currently as my most eaten food item, been on a pech kick for a like 2 months now. My 4th is mixed fruit from what I have almost everyday at my fave breakfast place.

Symmetry 08-25-2009 11:29 PM

2 servings. Usually one Apple and the other a serving of squishier fruit; Pitaya, Pawpaw, Pineapple etc.

I might get some Jicama later this weekend, can't wait since it's watery, rich of fiber, and less carbs/ sugar. :lol:

prinny 08-25-2009 11:35 PM

Jicama is like eating wet styrofoam to me.

Symmetry 08-26-2009 12:59 AM

Hahaha yeah it's pretty much that, but I used to eat it when little (my mother is diabetic and she had Jicama around for snacks), so I kinda like/am used to the taste. :yay:

Onederchic 08-30-2009 08:36 AM

It seems I average 2-3 servings a day.

cassieroll 08-30-2009 12:57 PM

Interesting thread! I generally have maybe 2 or 3 servings a day of fruit.. my veggie intake is much higher.

Windchime 08-30-2009 02:51 PM

I'm not big on veggies so I eat a lot of fruit. I have banana and watermelon every day (love this time of year for the watermelon!). During the winter, I swap over and have a banana and an orange every day. I also eat those little snack cups that have peaches, pineapple, pear, etc. Also, right now my Mom's raspberry bushes are producing like crazy so I'm eating a 1/2 cup or so of those a day when I've got them. Mmmmmm. Fresh pears and apples will be harvested soon, so that will bring a whole new set of yummy things to eat!

Amma 08-30-2009 04:25 PM

I *did* get fat (in part) by eating fruit, because I lurve it and can eat tons of the stuff. When I was a vegetarian I put on a lot of weight because I was rationalizing that I could eat all the grains, fruit and veggies I wanted since they were "healthy." Big mistake.
What I do now is have 3 servings of mixed fruit (no more than 200 calories) first thing in the morning before I exercise. I see it as ready sugar energy that I can burn up, because I burn enough calories exercising to "work off" the fruit. Then I focus on non-starchy veg for the rest of the day - I shoot for roughly 7 servings.
I've tried eating a variety of ways, and I have to say that I feel better when I limit my fruit to first thing in the morning.

Shannon in ATL 08-30-2009 05:14 PM

I eat a lot of fruit most days as well - a fruit smoothie every morning for breakfast, fruit in yogurt most days, berries, apple or banana most days as a snack. I eat a large salad most days for lunch. I track the calories of the fruit, eat it anytime during the day. I actually asked this same question a few weeks ago and got the answer Colleen gave. If you are doing well on the diet and have no illeffects from the fruit late in the day (binges, upset stomach, etc) then I wouldn't worry about chaning anything. If you have the calories a piece of fruit is definitely better than the cookie or junk food you mentioned. :)

jefferzzzz 08-30-2009 06:16 PM

I wish I could get into the habit of eating more fruits... I eat mostly vegetables, the calorie count for fruits just seemed to high for the ones that I actually liked (pineapple and bananas mostly). I do have a Pomegranate & Acai Smoothie sometimes, but that's about it as far as fruits.

giselley 08-30-2009 09:59 PM

If given the choice between a vegetable and fruit (the sweet kind) I will take the veg. As far as a fruit. It is the ovary of a plant, and can be high or low sugar. Tomatoes are fruits and so are squash. A Pumpkin is a fruit.

I prefer the non-sweet type of fruit-- those fruits called vegetables.

It's a laugh because it is just semantics.

loquaciousjogger 09-21-2009 07:08 PM

I'd say for me, probably around 3 servings. I looove fruit and it's one of the major things in my diet that keeps me on track. Plus, it's so filling.

EarthyWitch13 09-21-2009 07:25 PM

I probably have 2-3 servings of fruit most days. (1 for/with breakfast. 1 in between lunch and dinner. 1 as an evening snack.) I find it has helped me a ton with cravings and appetite!

Don't forget the natural sugars in fruit is NOT bad for you like the sugar in, say, a doughnut. Fruit has "good" sugar (natural fructose*) which your body can make use of, unlike refined sugar. All sugar is not created equal. Fructose (the sugar in fruit) = good. Refined sugar (sugar added to food) = very bad.

Fruit is most surely a great choice, don't be afraid to choose the ones you like and stock up! I personally love apples, mandarin oranges, strawberries, raspberries, bananas, and cherries the most! :D


* "Fructose is a monosaccharide, or single sugar, that has the same chemical formula as glucose but a different molecular structure. Sometimes called fruit sugar, fructose is found in fruit, some vegetables, honey, and other plants. Fructose and other sugars are carbohydrates, an important source of energy for the body."


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