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momof8 07-15-2009 08:23 PM

How do you do it with kids, and the snack cakes?
 
We have 7 kids in the house and they all love snack cakes! forget the fruit none of them will eat healthy snacks,what do you do about snacks in the house, I have NO wilpower to start with so this does not help, not to mention Im a night owl and eating at night all thoses sweets are killing me.. Help I really need advice here.....momof8

Cebsme 07-15-2009 08:27 PM

My husband still has snacks I wont spend my calories on. I have a shelf in the pantry all mine, right at my eye level. Filled to the brim with healthy snacks that I LOVE! Its great because if I get the urge to snack I have an area all mine and I don't even notice the other stuff. Because its right there and filled with what I love.

I keep a basket in the fridge filled with my healthy refrigerated snacks too, its so bright and colorful and just says this is all yours, its all the things you like to eat and it looks like a big rainbow of yumminess.

Keep a special area just for you, with healthy snacks that you love. Make it known that its mommies special bin. For me it really helps that its at my eye level, if its possible its a great help.

Beck 07-15-2009 08:37 PM

Hi momof8- I'm a mom of 6, and my kids love snacks just as much others, but I'm just not going to buy them now. I'll be stocking up on fresh fruit, oatmeal bars, baby carrots and hummus, and edamame.

Just lay down the facts- you need to lose the weight, you need to eat healthy, you want the same for them, so you won't be having those treats in the house anymore.

dietcokehead98 07-15-2009 09:14 PM

what about making healthy oatmeal "cookies" or bars? Or granola?

mortonpixie 07-15-2009 09:22 PM

Hi, Momof8!

I have the same problem with that stuff. :hug:

We have 4 children, and while I didn't stop buying the snacks all together, there are a lot less of them. I decided that if I didn't LOVE it I wasn't going to eat it (as far as junk food goes). Because I can eat that junk, but very little of it do I absolutely love or think tastes real good.

And like others said - I don't want to spend my calories on stuff I don't really like!

Leeesa 07-15-2009 09:49 PM

You know what, next time you grab one to eat, sit down with it, and savour it, really chew it and taste it... I mean really take a long time with it. Here's the thing, if you do that you will actually taste what they really are and that is chemicals, not even any real ingredients of any sort, but purely preservatives, sugar, dyes and fat. You really can actually taste the chemically fake-ness in them if you take the time. There is not one single redeeming quality about them if you stop to consider that they don't even taste good. Don't buy them, the kids will complain bitterly but will eventually give up and turn to whatever else is available to them, which will hopefully be healthier options and is thankfully up to you!

TJFitnessDiva 07-15-2009 09:52 PM

I had to stop buying them all together. Snack cakes are the devil! :lol:.......the thing with kids is that if they are really really wanting something they will eat what you have. Sure they might complain at first but if you hold your ground and not waiver they will change ;)

prinny 07-15-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Beck (Post 2828583)
Hi momof8- I'm a mom of 6, and my kids love snacks just as much others, but I'm just not going to buy them now. I'll be stocking up on fresh fruit, oatmeal bars, baby carrots and hummus, and edamame.

Just lay down the facts- you need to lose the weight, you need to eat healthy, you want the same for them, so you won't be having those treats in the house anymore.

I don't have kids yet, but when we DO we just aren't going to keep crap in the house. I know it's hard but if you can get them off the junk now, just think how much easier it'll be for them not to go through what you have gone through with weight issues.

There are healthier snacks you can give the kids.

If you have a Whole Foods look for crispy green fruit snacks, I especially love the apricot. Crunchy and sweet and only 38 calories for a whole pack.

Mini rice cakes, you can find them without too much salt. Also if you just must there are baked chips, Cheetos, Doritos and such which might be good for weening them off the hard stuff. That's how we weened ourselves off of it!

If you have a Safeway look for Eating Right stuff. They have a version of Spaghetti'o's and canned Ravolis that taste just like the name brand stuff if you sprinkle a little garlic salt on 'em but have a fraction of the fat and are made with whole wheat pasta. I also like their frozen pockets, mac & cheese, and frozen mini pizzas better than the other brands... plus they have less sodium than Lean Cuisine or Weight Watchers on average.

Seriously I thought my DH was going to cry for joy when I brought home the ravoli!

Not sure if similar things can be found at other stores but it's worth looking into.

ANewCreation 07-16-2009 01:55 AM

So many good suggestions!

I wonder what the age ranges of your children are? If they are young then you CAN just not buy snack cakes, set out a small variety of fruits and see what happens. When desperate they might decide they like pears or tangerines after all. Buy small amounts--like one kiwi. Peel and start to eat it in front of them. Really talk it up. Trust me, if your kids are young they will be insisting that you share with them. That's how I got my kids to try spinach. 2 out of 3 didn't like it but one of them did!

If your kids are older, try explaining to them that you need to keep temptations out of the house. Tell them to snack on the junk food outside of the house--like when they are at a friends house. You might be surprised at how supportive they are. My kids are all college age and like their dad they are very physically fit--they can eat anything! But, they all see my struggle and are very agreeable to removing temptations if that helps me.

Last resort--do the kids like a snack cake that you just dont like? Only buy that kind for them. For example, my kids love Dorito's and I can't stand them. So, I'm never tempted. Or for every treat you buy for them, can you buy an alternative for yourself? Sometimes I just really want a sweet so I buy the low cal snack cake packs or some blue bunny low fat no sugar icecream. There are many alternatives out there that you might like.

I hope you work something out--best of luck! I surely sympathize with you and would love to hear what you end up doing.

PinkyPie 07-16-2009 02:13 AM

I must be a real harda$$ but there is NO junk in my house. Kids' snacks are fruit, mini yoghurts, carrots, cherry tomatoes, etc. And if they don't like the choice, too bad! I am not running a hotel or a café, they get what is available! And guess what? No one complains that there are no junky snacks anymore.

The same goes for my husband; if he wants junk he has to buy it himself and keep it out of the house. Consequently, he's lost a couple of kilos and is interested in becoming healthier now as well.

My point is, you are the parent, you are in charge. You can give in to what the kids want and use it as an excuse, or you can tell them that they have new choices which don't include junk.

TamiL 07-16-2009 06:00 AM

My kids love fruit and peanut butter crackers. We only occasionally deal with snack cakes and such.

momof8 07-16-2009 06:33 AM

Velveteen, I love the way you put that, you sounded just like my dad when i was young,the kids ages are ,13,18,27 yeah 27!!,,the grand kids that live with me are,2,4,8,
Im going to do the fruit thing and just pass up the snack cakes all together when in the store, Im not going to tell them anything and just wait to see who says something first.
can some of you give me some examples of what you snack on,and maybe share your oatmeal cookie and bar recipes ....momof8

rockinrobin 07-16-2009 06:40 AM

The kids don't need the garbage either. What would you be taking away from them? Sugar? Fat? Nutrient sparse foods? Nothing. How I wish I would have been brought up eating healthy fare. They call it junk food for a reason - because it's "junk". Worthless.

My kids snack on baked apples. I make a huge tray of them and they're good all week long. They snack on baby carrots and grape tomatoes. Berries, melon, grapes - try them frozen. Banana slices - I freeze these as well - they're a great yummy snack. Paper thinly sliced apples sprinkled with cinnamon. Peaches, grapefruits, plums and all other kinds of fruit. Yogurt.

Be firm. It may take some time, but they will get used to it and come to LOVE this way of eating. Each and every time one of my kids goes away to a friends house, they get stomach aches (& not from OVEReating)from eating at other people's home. They're not used to all the fat and sugar and - junk.

Showing your children the "proper" way to eat and to care for and respect their bodies is one of the best gifts you can possibly give them. Bar none.

KforKitty 07-16-2009 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by momof8 (Post 2829051)
Velveteen, I love the way you put that, you sounded just like my dad when i was young,the kids ages are ,13,18,27 yeah 27!!,,the grand kids that live with me are,2,4,8,
Im going to do the fruit thing and just pass up the snack cakes all together when in the store, Im not going to tell them anything and just wait to see who says something first.
can some of you give me some examples of what you snack on,and maybe share your oatmeal cookie and bar recipes ....momof8

That's exactly what I did this Easter, I just stopped buying cakes and cookies and didn't even say anything. I bought a good variety of fruit, yoghurt, breadsticks and healthy dips, granola bars etc and you know it took a full two weeks before my son (15 year old) realised and said where's the biscuits gone. I told him I wasn't buying those things anymore as they were no good for any of us and he shrugged and helped himself to a banana.

Kids are just like any of us, they only eat it cos its there.

Kitty

seagirl 07-16-2009 07:38 AM

There were 5 kids in my family and there was no junk food allowed in the house. Snack cakes have no nutritional value, and are expensive (and gross if you really taste them.)

Snacks could be : cheese cut into cubes, carrot sticks with PB, grapes, crackers, anything.

if there are no snack cakes and only healthy options they will eat the healthy things if they are hungry.

time2lose 07-16-2009 08:55 AM

I am the mother of 4 grown children. When they were growing up I thought that I could not "deprive" my children just because I should not have snack cakes, cookies, chips, and fried foods. Now as adults, 2 of my 4 children have obesity problems.

I wish that I had "deprived" them as children. :(

knitsforfive 07-16-2009 08:56 AM

Read what Robin said again and again and again. Kids just don't need the junk.

We are really trying to teach our kids the same lesson and I am trying to learn myself in my 40's! Hopefully, they will not be struggling with it when they are my age. The lesson is that sweets and such are an occasional treat, not for regular consumption, and that fresh fruits and veggies are sweet and wonderful. About once a week, we buy a very simple dessert in a small quantity. Last night, for example, it was 2 small cookies and a small scoop of frozen yogurt that they made into sandwiches and rolled in coconut. They eat this occasional treat while I am out exercising (DH serves them). Every week I hear the same thing: "That was delicious. It was kind of too sweet, though." In fact, I think next week I will get or make something fruit sweetened and see how they like it instead.

See, when there are sugary foods in the house, I AM A MANIAC! Sugar is my addictive substance. If I were an alcoholic, I am guessing my kids would be perfectly fine with never ever drinking around me or keeping alcohol in the house. So it is with sugar.

There are also plenty of ways to make "treats" beyond fruit without sugar. I now make cookies WITH NO SWEETENERS except for chopped dates and applesauce. All sweet breads start with a base of bananas and include raisins or chopped apricots. They LOVE them. They frequently spit out or choke down a bite of a regular muffin (out and about) before declaring it too sweet and throwing it away.

I am hoping keeping the junk away except for the occasional treat will help them learn that sugar is just that -- an occasional treat.

One more thing to end this much-longer-than-I-expected-tome: I am so frustrated by all the people who say that it is not fair to deprive kids of junk. Seriously? I hear it so often. One person even likened it to child abuse. The other day, I saw the fattest little boy I had ever seen. He was 21 months old (his mother told us) and could barely hobble along (because he was so fat). This was clearly not baby fat/breast milk fat either. He waddled over to his mother and reached up to get her to pick him up. Not able to carry him, I am guessing, she (a very thin woman), patted him on the head and handed him a Sprite. Hmmm. And someone said keeping junk out of my house is like child abuse?????

Pas de Chaton 07-16-2009 10:28 AM

Knitsforfive: That is so sad about that little boy. :( I realize I am way overweight, but it's because of my decisions that I made as an adult. Little kids can't make those choices, so the parents need to be more responsible for their children's welfare.

I am concerned about my kids' nutrition and really want them to grow up not being addicted to junk food. But having said that, I do have a few things in the house for my son that I won't eat myself, because he does like them and it's easy. One is the Kashi snack-bar, pumpkin pie flavored. They're pretty gross, in my opinion, but he'll eat about 2 or 3 a week. The other is yogurt. Yogurt itself is okay, but he likes the kinds marketed towards kids that are probably not fat-free or low-fat.

I like fruit and so does my son. So I spare no expense when shopping the produce section and get a huge variety of fruits each week. As soon as I get home from the grocery store, I wash the fruits that need to be washed and put everything in it's own clear bowl and put it at eye-level in the fridge. Everytime you open the fridge, you see a tempting array of fruits in all colors. Same with veggies, though my son likes the fruit better. :)

QuilterInVA 07-16-2009 10:37 AM

Why do you want your children to face obesity by letting them eat junk. If you don't buy snack cakes, they can't eat them. May let them have 1 once or twice a month for a real treat. The time for children to eat healthy is from the time they are born. If they grow up eating well, they won't have the problems we are facing.

Thinfor5Minutes 07-16-2009 10:42 AM

Applauding all the responses here...I wouldn't go so far as to say it's child abuse to give your kids snack foods, but at the same time, it's for their best welfare to keep the junk out of the house. My older stepdaughter was obese since she was about six years old. My husband was in despair over her and spoke to his ex-wife, who was the custodial parent, about getting all the junk out of the house...her response was that it wasn't fair to the other daughter not to be able to eat ice cream sandwiches and peanut butter cups after school. The obese stepdaughter ended up with lap band surgery in her early 20s, and now the other daughter is gaining a lot of weight. In my opinion, what wasn't fair was to place temptation in the path of the obese girl, and to provide the other child with the junk foods that have now caused her to become overweight where previously she was pretty fit.

sweetandspicy 07-16-2009 10:45 AM

As a mother of 6 ages 13-1, you can not realistically eliminate snacks instantly. Maybe next time try more granola/oatmeal cakes/low fat cheese crackers. and each time buy less and less, they will whine and complain but you want your children to be healthy too. They will still get plenty of junk at parties,friends houses and some school events so they should not feel completely deprived. It is all about moteration and you as the parent have to make the decisions. It has been about a 6 month process for my family but it has worked. WE still have treats but they are making healthier options.

wendyland 07-16-2009 10:51 AM

I don't buy much junk for my kids. They may eat it at grandparents or at a birthday party, but that's it. What they eat now is how their tastes will be forever. My stepmoms grandkids live with them and she has a whole drawer filled with the snack cakes and other junk. They live on koolaid and hot dogs. Everytime I talk to them, one of the kids is sick. One girls hair was falling out in clumps. I try to talk to them about diet, but that's just the way they eat in small town America.

It's so SAD.

I bake cookies with whole grain flour occasionally. We eat granola bars, yogurt, cheese sticks, baked corn curls, blue corn chips, fruit & veggies. I make frozen pops out of fresh fruit and juice. If trhey eat a non fruit or veggie snack and want something else, I tell them that they can only have a fruit or veggie.

If you start from babies & toddlers, it's so much better.

ddc 07-16-2009 10:57 AM

I was just discussing this last night with my hubby.
We didn't have ice cream in the freezer all the time when I was growing up.
Now it's like a staple in our freezer. If we run out, we've gotta get more right away. Same with chips and chocolate. This insanity has got to stop!
This stuff is not good for them or us--yucko!!!
I need to tell myself that it's poison-not for consumption-lol!!

MindiV 07-16-2009 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by wendyland (Post 2829313)
I try to talk to them about diet, but that's just the way they eat in small town America.


Not ALL small town people feed their kids that way...I know plenty who feed their kids healthy foods, fruits and veggies....it's an epidemic everywhere, not just in small places...

rileyozzy 07-16-2009 11:41 AM

It's easy to say just don't buy it, but I also know what it's like to be on the run with kids and you want to bring along snacks which is hard to do with yogurt, fresh fruit, cheese...BUT there are many other options. We have our staple snacks that the kids like and I don't crave so much. Pirate's Booty, rice cakes, crackers, fruit snacks...I have also switched to frozen yogurt instead of ice cream. I let the kids put chocolate syrup on theirs for their treat. I guess the bottom line is that I am the one ultimately making the food choices and it is my responsibilty to teach my children good food choices. That is not to say that my kids don't ever eat junk, but at least they know it's junk food, not healthy and shouldn't be eaten all of the time.

Lori Bell 07-16-2009 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by QuilterInVA (Post 2829286)
The time for children to eat healthy is from the time they are born. If they grow up eating well, they won't have the problems we are facing.

Sadly this was not the case in my family. I have 2 siblings, the three of us grew up in a household that rarely had junk food, desserts and pies were reserved for Holidays and Birthdays. We ate from a huge annual garden, never had pop. We ate peaches, apples, melon and strawberries for treats. (From the orchard/garden). Occasionally Mom would make a pitcher of sweet tea, and we could only have one glass. Ice cream was a once a month treat (at Dairy Queen, not in the freezer) and the big splurge of the week was a piece of toast with a little peanut butter and home made strawberry jam. We all became morbidly obese as adults.

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Originally Posted by ddc (Post 2829320)
I was just discussing this last night with my hubby.
We didn't have ice cream in the freezer all the time when I was growing up.
Now it's like a staple in our freezer.
If we run out, we've gotta get more right away. Same with chips and chocolate. This insanity has got to stop!
This stuff is not good for them or us--yucko!!!
I need to tell myself that it's poison-not for consumption-lol!!

I totally agree. We didn't keep that stuff in the house when I was growing up either. Incidentally, the recipes Mom and Grandma used for holiday fare were very different than today's recipes. In most pie recipes the sugar is 1/2 of what today's recipes call for.

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Originally Posted by MindiV (Post 2829357)
Not ALL small town people feed their kids that way...I know plenty who feed their kids healthy foods, fruits and veggies....it's an epidemic everywhere, not just in small places...

I agree that not all small town people eat crap, but 90% of the adults and kids in my area are overweight. Sad, but true. My own kids are a few pounds each from being normal weights. According to the BMI charts my oldest is about 5 pounds overweight and my youngest is about 8 pounds overweight. UGH...We are trying, but still have a little work to do.

megwini 07-16-2009 11:55 AM

Sometimes it's hard, even if you just stop giving your kids the stuff freely. I was a VERY stubborn child, and I really liked junk food. I would throw tantrums when I was little until my mom would buy it, throw it in the shopping cart when she took me to the grocery store and wouldn't stop pestering her until she finally let me have it. I have memories of sneaking junk food into my room to eat it so she wouldn't know about it and wouldn't yell at me. I don't really blame my mom, though. Yes, she *should* have been firm with me, but I was SOOOOOO obnoxious that I made it almost impossible to be firm with. Sometimes if the kids REALLY like the stuff, and they happen to be VERY strong-willed, it's hard. It took me until I was an adult to realize that that stuff is just crap food. As a child, I just really really liked junk food.

Thighs Be Gone 07-16-2009 12:01 PM

Ceb and Beck both have good ideas. Either just don't buy them or make a special cabinet or shelf just yours--stocked up on the things you love and are on plan FOR YOU.

I do all the shopping here so I can easily decide what it coming in. I do let my kids have treats from time to time but as a general rule we do not keep whole packages or cookies or cakes in the house whatsoever--none of us need it--although I am the only one in the house that has to watch weight on a daily basis.

edzard 07-16-2009 12:10 PM

Yeah I agree with most of the posters here, I have kids and at first I provided lots of the junk food and now I don't.

The standard snacks in our house are string cheese, fresh fruits, veggies w/ dip (ranch/hummus/peanut butter) or sometimes crackers and hummus. Yes sometimes they whine, I look them straight in the eye and let them know those are the healthy choices and if they are TRULY hungry they can choice one. If they are not TRULY hungry then they don't need to eat, I have a lot of bad eating habits from eating junk food growing up that I don't want to pass down!

I also would like to say that the occasional instance of exposure so that they can learn restraint is best too, for instance I had lots of crappy food growing up but pop was not one of them (couldn't afford it). When I got married my husband and I became pop junkies, having 6 or 7 cans of it a day!!

So what we do is give 'junk' on special occasions, camping or road trips and make sure they acknowledge its not a healthy food, its a special occasion and to consume in moderation. Unfortunately no on seems to have found the perfect formula for everyone in the world yet or we would all be thin and healthy so I think we are all just trying our best!!

Shannon in ATL 07-16-2009 12:15 PM

I was just thinking about what snacks we have for my 4 year old stepson, and while they aren't the healthiest available they are better than what I remember growing up. Pretzels, fruit, granola bars, string cheese, yogurt, we do give in to the little packs of 'fruit' treats but that is the worst we have at our house. He does get the occasional piece of candy, but we have cut that way back.

Now, his mom's house is different - last time we had him for the weekend she passed on the 'funny' story that he had two cups of mini oreos instead of just one because he opened the bag and got more when he told her he was putting them away. She was in the living room and didn't see. We don't have anything like that in the house where he has access, for just that reason. He is tall and slim at this point, size 4 pants are actually too big for him, and we want to keep him slim.

TJFitnessDiva 07-16-2009 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by megwini (Post 2829426)
Sometimes it's hard, even if you just stop giving your kids the stuff freely. I was a VERY stubborn child, and I really liked junk food. I would throw tantrums when I was little until my mom would buy it, throw it in the shopping cart when she took me to the grocery store and wouldn't stop pestering her until she finally let me have it. I have memories of sneaking junk food into my room to eat it so she wouldn't know about it and wouldn't yell at me. I don't really blame my mom, though. Yes, she *should* have been firm with me, but I was SOOOOOO obnoxious that I made it almost impossible to be firm with. Sometimes if the kids REALLY like the stuff, and they happen to be VERY strong-willed, it's hard. It took me until I was an adult to realize that that stuff is just crap food. As a child, I just really really liked junk food.


lol you sound like you used to be like my 8 year old

Luckily I'm stubborn as all get out and can wait out my children longer than they can wait out me. ;) If I gave in I would so have a hard time saying no to Little Debbie and her friends!

wendyland 07-16-2009 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MindiV (Post 2829357)
Not ALL small town people feed their kids that way...I know plenty who feed their kids healthy foods, fruits and veggies....it's an epidemic everywhere, not just in small places...

I know, but in my dad's small town in IL, it is very much the norm. Of course not ALL small town people feed their kids that way. I live in a city and a lot of people eat bad. It's all over.

MindiV 07-16-2009 01:44 PM

Sorry...I just got a little offended by that remark, about the small towns. I live in a town of 3,400 people, and others from bigger cities tend to look at us like we're all inbred, backwoods hicks with no education or anything...Besides, I know as many if not MORE people (friends of mine) who are overweight and feed their kids horribly and live in BIG places than here in my town...

amynbebes 07-16-2009 07:26 PM

I try not to have them in the house. I do have fruit snacks, granola bars, cheese, yogurt and such for them. My mom and dad on the other hand have a counter full of crap and the kids go whacky there. It makes me crazy.


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