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KriWes 03-31-2006 05:32 AM

Just a small interjection...vegetarians *do not* have a tendency to be more anemic than carnivores as many people believe without researching it further.

"Although vegetarian diets do tend to be lower in iron than meat-based diets, vegetarians do not have a higher rate of iron deficiency anemia than meat eaters. This may be explained by the fact that the iron found in vegetarian diets (in vegetables and unrefined grains) is often accompanied, in the food or in the meal, by large amounts of vitamin C, which increases the absorption of the mineral. "

Source: http://whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=diet&dbid=6

I don't eat meat but I do eat fish, I know Jillian is not a fan of vegetarian diets but I eat better than most meat eaters I know and focus on getting all of my nutrients.

If you are a vegetarian and also happen to be anemic than focus on replacing meat with vegetarian meat alternatives...there are many and I would be happy to share my personal favourites if anyone has any more questions. Another possibility is that you may be hypoglocemic with the mood swings/fatigue that seem to be connected to your consumption or lack of consumption of sugar. You may want to aim for more fruit and less refined sugar? Just a thought, for more info you may want to get a referral from your doctor to a dietician. Just some thoughts.

cool90 03-31-2006 08:07 PM

What are your vegetarian meat alternatives ? I eat fish, eggs, milk and chicken for protein and flax seeds as for non-vegetarian things. And I eat pistachios, broccoli, I don't like tofu or soy products like soy milk ( plus it makes it more difficult to build muscles because of the oestrogens it realeases). Green vegetables are a great source of iron I think, nuts also. If you have other alternatives, please tell me. There is a lot of iron in pistachios but it's more difficult for your body to absorb it, it's easier when it's taken from animal products.

KriWes 04-01-2006 03:05 AM

Protein/Iron
 
First of all, as I said...I do eat fish so I am not strictly a vegetarian, I am what is sometimes referred to as a "pescatarian" If you think that eggs, cheese etc. are "non-vegetarian" you obviously are not that familiar with vegetarianism. Dairy products and eggs are not considered "non-vegetarian" They are "non-vegan". Vegans are people who choose not to eat any animal products. Although I do not myself advocate being a vegan, it is possible, with some work, to be a healthy vegan. There are many soy products that are not anything like tofu. I eat veggie burgers, veggie dogs, veggie sandwich meat etc. They are all very low in fat/calories and often higher in protein than their comparable meat product.

You can check out some comparisons on this web site of a brand I really love.
http://www.yvesveggie.com/products.php?page=1

Try going to a vegetarian restaurant sometime and ordering a dish, you might be pleasantly surprised with a new healthy food you like, preperation is often everything.

AmyMOhio777 04-02-2006 06:57 PM

Thanks
 
I know it was a silly question.

:^:

Bev 04-11-2006 10:47 PM

what type of rotation would I follow if I was just using the dvds ( all of them)?

thanks

chick_in_the_hat 04-13-2006 12:19 AM

I only have a couple of the CD's - but generally if you work the front one day you should work the back the next day. You mostly want to give the muscles worked one day the next day off. Go get 'em Bev! :cb:

Bev 04-13-2006 01:47 AM

should the workout be something like:

front, back,cardio,front,back

lately i have been doing 30-45 minutes of cardio after each workout so do I still add that cardio in the middle of the week or do something like front,back,front,back, etc.

thanks
bev

lisa-n 04-16-2006 01:03 PM

does Jillian still answer questions here? I just found this forum and thread. I've been looking for a place to talk to other people who are working with Jillians book. I'm just starting out. I think it is so awesome for Jillian to take time out of her busy schedule to come here and answer questions. That is so awesome of her!

I am watching the Australia biggest loser now, wow all I can say is, the aussies are really into the game playing! They are much more competitive and back stabbing than the americans! They definatley have had some major twists in this version, some I'm not too happy about!

I have a question for her, if it has already been answered, sorry, I'm still looking through all her posts, but I wanted to make sure I posted this question before I forgot.

Ok, so there is so much talk about not losing more than 2 pounds a week, because that is all the body can lose of pure fat a week. However, Jillian says if you do it properly there is no reason why someone can't lose more than 2 pounds a week. My question is, if you are losing more than 2 pounds a week, let's say 4-5 pounds a week, is it ok to lose that much? How does someone know if they are losing all fat, or if they are losing lean muscle mass? Alot of experts say that if you are losing more than 2 pounds a week, then you are losing lean mass, which is not good. So, I just wanted to see what Jillian has to say about this.

I haven't been really losing anything, I keep going back and forth every week, one week I'll lose a couple pounds, the next week I'll gain a pound or 2, it is very frustrating. I have about 120 pounds to lose. I just got her exercise videos, so I'm going to start with them this week. I'm also a balanced oxidizer.

Lisa

chick_in_the_hat 04-16-2006 11:35 PM

If you aren't starving yourself by going below 1200 calories a day and are eating lean proteins and veggies and exercising - there shouldn't be a problem with losing more than 2 pounds a week. I do think that whatever plan you pick to lose the weight, you need to find something you are comfortable with keeping for the rest of your life. That's what I like about calorie counting...nothing fad about it as a eating plan. :cb: I think the 40-30-30 split helps me stay on track as to what kind of calories, too. I can't just fill up on carbs any more. :o

I hope Jillian comes back to post - but if she doesn't....we've got your back, girl. :D

One little thought to add to losing weight faster - you might want to keep your calorie levels a little higher to start with (like at least 1500-1600 maybe?)- give yourself some room to cut back later when you hit a plateau.

TwinkleGirl 04-19-2006 03:07 AM

:wave: Hi all,
I'm kind of new here but have been lurking for a while, and now i have a question for Jillian or anyone else who can help me.
I've been reading Jillians book and i think it's great, and i've lost a few kilos because of it. However, for i've been on a plateau for the last 2 weeks and i don't know why.
My workouts have increased, and my claories have stayed the same, but i'm not losing anything. The only thing i can think it might be is that my calories are to low. I know i shouldn't go below 1200 claories, but i struggle to get to 1000 in a day. I'm trying to up them, but them i find my fat levels go over 30 grams a day (Jillian hasn't mentioned daily fat levels in her book yet... maybe i'm not there yet) I'm the fussyest eater in the world and i'm stuck with what to do. Should i try to get my calories up and vary the intake day to day (Like Jillian suggests in her book) and go over 30 grams of fat? Or should i try to wait this plateau out and keep my calories where they are? :?:
Thank you so much for any help you can provide!

Ilene 04-19-2006 08:34 AM

:welcome: SD :wave: Congrats on your weight loss so far :cp:... I don't follow Jillian's book at all, but what I do know about plateaus is that you just have to ride them through. They are tough and discouraging sometimes, and I have stayed on plateaus for months sometimes!! But they will pass.... You could zig-zag your calories, change your workout intensities, up your grams of fat for good fats, that won't hurt you a bit I'm sure... Plateaus are, I think, just your body getting used to your new weight and lifestyle... Hope this helps and keep us posted... Good Luck :crossed:

lisa-n 04-19-2006 04:52 PM

HI SAd girl, did you do Jillians oxidizer test? It will tell you what you should be eating as terms of how much fat, carbs and protein. With any diet, I would not go over 30% of your total calories from fat. use fitday.com to track everything you are eating to make sure you are getting enough calories, which at least should be 1200, more if you are exercising very vigourously. Fitday also tells you how much of those calories are from fat, carbs and protein.

Lisa

TwinkleGirl 04-21-2006 11:35 PM

Hey all, :wave:
Thanks for the tips! I'm giving myself 1 more week before i begin changing things. I guess i'm just hoping that the plateau will end and i'll be back to happily losing weight. :crossed: I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks again for the help!
:dance: (I had to use this, just because it's so damn cute!)

Kiarii 04-27-2006 10:47 AM

Hi everyone

I have come to this forum looking for support. I told a couple of my friends I was starting an eating plan and exercise program, and all I have heard from them are negative comments. One of them is even angry at me... (she is bulemic though and has issues.) I have a lot of personal stuff I need to work through, and this just adds to everything. I have a hard enough time trying to look after myself and do positive things...but anyway

My question for anyone here is....I don't really understand the calorie deficit thing. I have figured out my AMR, and I know how many calories I need to eat in order to create a deficit..but does that mean I HAVE to eat that many calories per day? What if I eat less than that? I am 157cm tall and I weigh 64 kgs so I don't even know how much weight I want to lose..I just know I want to lose some post baby flab and tone up....
Can anyone help please?

Kiarii

Truitt24 04-27-2006 04:14 PM

Hi ladies! First time here....My name is Jen. I most definitely enjoy reading everyone's posts. It's nice to read and listen to other people's views and ideas on the whole get in shape struggle.

I, myself, am looking to make a change in my life. Growing up athletic, I never had to worry about what I ate or how much. Since hitting my 30's years ago, my metabolism slowed down and lost a lot of muscle mass. Which has also made me tired and lazy. Joined a gym not so long ago and did real well, but had some things happen in the last few months that kept me away from the gym. Now, I lost the "bug" that I had gained of needing to go the gym because it made me feel great when I was done. So, I am jumping back in with two feet in hopes to find that feeling again!

Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself. I will be enjoying this thread now that I found it. Plus I am reading Jillian's book as we speak.

Last weekend, I had the opportunity to meet Jillian. All I can say is "WOW!!!"
Not only does she look amazing on the television, but in person, she blew me away! Got my book signed and a picture signed to put on the wall in my bar! What a great addition to the decor!!! lol!

She is awesome!

chick_in_the_hat 04-28-2006 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiarii
I know how many calories I need to eat in order to create a deficit..but does that mean I HAVE to eat that many calories per day? What if I eat less than that? I am 157cm tall and I weigh 64 kgs so I don't even know how much weight I want to lose..I just know I want to lose some post baby flab and tone up....

You are only a couple inches shorter than me - and you weigh 10 pounds less than my goal...I don't know what kind of build you are - but I bet toning up would help bunches.
As far as how many calories a day to eat - one rule of thumb is not to go below 1200 a day without being under the watchful eye of a doctor.
Jillian's book Winning by Losing has a great workout plan. I also recommend Stumptuous.com and the Ladies who lift forum right here at 3FC has some great info...start here!

chick_in_the_hat 04-28-2006 01:38 AM

:welcome3: JEN!!!

That is so :cool: you got to meet Jillian!! I'm so jealous!!

Please come join us in the Jillian's Girls exercise thread when you start the workouts...:carrot:

Kiarii 04-28-2006 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chick_in_the_hat
You are only a couple inches shorter than me - and you weigh 10 pounds less than my goal...I don't know what kind of build you are - but I bet toning up would help bunches.
As far as how many calories a day to eat - one rule of thumb is not to go below 1200 a day without being under the watchful eye of a doctor.
Jillian's book Winning by Losing has a great workout plan. I also recommend Stumptuous.com and the Ladies who lift forum right here at 3FC has some great info...start here!

I have Jillian's book (and all of her dvds) and I've read it a couple of times when I have needed a lift, that's how I figured everything out!! I just didn't quite understand the deficit thing. I just would love to get rid of my big bum, my thighs and my belly...I used to have abs you know!! LOL before I got pregnant the second time, I had a personal trainer who I paid $105 a week for 90 minutes (an hour of which was kickboxing) but she refused to train me when I got pregnant...so I gave everything up. She would also get angry at me when asking me what I had eaten, saying I wasn't eating enough, or that what I was eating wasn't good, but never mentioned an eating plan or food diary or anything. There were never any suggestions like that made. Hence why I don't understand anything about calories or anything.

Kiarii 04-28-2006 05:59 AM

Jillian's recipies
 
Hi again

I am in desperate need of low cal recipies...
Does anyone have Aussie versions of the ones Jillian has in her books or can anyone tell me what the following things are??

half and half

Asiago cheese

bouillion

spaghetti squash

tapioca

liquid smoke

And how on earth do you broil something???

They may not be specifically American, we may have them here, but I am not very experimental in my cooking and have no idea what they are!!
If anyone has any other recipies or recipie sites I could really use them!!!!!

kathyhegg 04-29-2006 05:22 AM

Hi Kiarii,

I have a couple of answers for you but not all of them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiarii
Hi again

I am in desperate need of low cal recipies...
Does anyone have Aussie versions of the ones Jillian has in her books or can anyone tell me what the following things are??

half and half

Asiago cheese

bouillion This is stock, chicken, beef or vege, either as a liquid or as cubes

spaghetti squash I dont know how readily available these are in Australia, but I remember my mother growing them when I was young. From memory they weren't the yummiest thing in the vege patch.

tapioca This is available at the health food store. I beleive it can be used as a thickner in its powder form. I think its some sort of root.

liquid smoke

And how on earth do you broil something??? Broiling is simply grilling here in Aus, you know under the old griller. You could probably also bbq or use a non stick pan.

They may not be specifically American, we may have them here, but I am not very experimental in my cooking and have no idea what they are!!
If anyone has any other recipies or recipie sites I could really use them!!!!!

Us Aussie girls also have a thread in Support Groups, come along and introduce yourself. Some of the others might have a few answers for you.

Kiarii 04-29-2006 09:03 AM

Ok, so far the biggest problem I am having with this eating plan is eating enough calories. I am not typically a big eater....well...lets be honest, I usually only have one meal a day so I have been trying to make myself eat enough calories. I started having diet yogurt for breakfast, but it is only 32 calories. What I am finding is that come 6 o'clock at night, I have only had 234 calories....but then I am hesitant to eat anything that is 900 calories in one sitting. That is probably my hardest personal challenge of this whole thing.

chick_in_the_hat 04-29-2006 12:14 PM

What size serving is 32 calories? The nonfat sugar free yogurt I get is 227 grams (8oz)....it has 120 calories....maybe you should eat more servings at a time....either that or there is something funky with how you are figuring out the calories?

Sorry...this not making myself eat enough is a problem I have never had...:o
Quite the contrary....but you've got to eat - especially if you are exercising...your body needs fuel to build muscle.

If you need to add some calories - easy ones are peanut butter....avocados...good fat - you don't have to eat a lot to bulk up your day. Natural peanut butter (just ground peanuts - not Skippy, too many weird things in there) is like 100 cals a tablespoon (15 g).

:goodluck:

Kiarii 05-02-2006 07:33 AM

Hi everyone...

I was wondering if there is anything wrong with doing a body combat class tomorrow even though Jillian has designated it as a rest day?

sammydc 05-02-2006 09:59 PM

jillian's website updated
 
Hey everyone

just letting you know that Jillian's website has been updated. there is a small amount of new info and they are starting the online workouts soon. i haven't been able to find out pricing as yet as I keep getting an error message.

does anyone think they will be signing up?

sammy



Kiarii

I'm certainly no expert but I think the idea of the rest day is to ensure you don't burn out and that you also give your body a break.

I don't know what would happen if you don't take rest days, but if its something you look forward to, then go for it. Just take care of your body too.

Kiarii 05-03-2006 03:12 AM

I have been trying to sign up for a while...but the link isn't working..I can get to page three, and then when it comes time for me to register the link doesn't work! Anyone else having the same problem?

Kiarii 05-03-2006 08:58 AM

I checked with the instructor of my bodycombat class, and explained to her that I am following an exercise program and that today was ment to be a rest day, but would it be ok if I still did the class. She told me that as long as I have Sunday off completely then it should be ok, and as long as I didn't do any resistance training before or after my class. I hate to be going against what Jillian says, but I really enjoy my gym time.
I must say though...2 years of previous kickboxing experience did nothing to prepare me for today. For a start my kickboxing sessions were only 30 minutes long, including cool down, and I was stationary whilst being taught moves etc...or while watching demos...NOT TODAY MY GOOD FRIEND. I was bouncing the whole time...I felt like my feet were going to fall off...and my heart was going to fall our of my throat...but I felt so good!! It was amazing, tiring, exhausting and exhilarating all at once. There was a lot of punching and kicking, but I guess because we weren't connecting with anything it was just cardio! *shrugs shoulders* I don't know! Anyways, all I know is I am starting to love it...not sure how well I am going on the food thing though, I have kept my diary up to date, but it always seems to end up 400 calories short of what I need to be eating. The problem is I am just not hungry enough to eat any more during the day.

Kiarii 05-08-2006 08:24 AM

This may be a stupid question but is it normal for women to put on weight when they have their periods?

chiarij 05-08-2006 08:56 AM

I saw two of Jillian's new dvd's at Target this weekend. Has anyone tried her workout? Is it difficult? I am 232 lbs and I want to know if I would be able to do it or it would be too difficult at my weight...From watching her on the show she seems like a drill sargeant bill, I love her to death?

Also, is it true when the show returns she will not be on it? Why????

chiarij

Ilene 05-08-2006 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiarii
This may be a stupid question but is it normal for women to put on weight when they have their periods?

There is no such thing as a stupid question... YES, some or most women gain from 3-7 pounds before and during their periods every month...

angel-eyes 05-08-2006 12:40 PM

Jillians DVD's are great!!!...I have all three of them. She does her 'drill sargeant' routine on the dvd's but she does have some one do a modified version of the excercise. The main thing that she stresses is to do them in proper form and to get your heart rate up. I would highly reccommend them. I bought a 2 dvd pack called shapeup, (front and back) and inside was a coupon for the kickboxing dvd FREE!!! not bad eh? good luck!!

Kiarii 05-10-2006 09:24 AM

Ok, everyone keeps telling me that I am going to gain weight before I lose weight, that I will look bigger then look smaller...why are they saying this and is this true?
Thanks!

Ilene 05-10-2006 02:46 PM

Kiarii -- In what way are they telling you this, and where are they founding this information? It's not rocket science if you eat less and move more you WILL lose weight :yes: .... you MAY gain a bit because of water retention in your muscles the first couple of weeks but chances are you are not if you are drinking a lot of water and eating a low calorie low fat heathy diet... I NEVER saw any of the contestants gain weight the first weeks on the Biggest Loser Show... I think you are being misinformed....

cool90 05-12-2006 05:28 PM

Ilene. I'm wondering why you are eating only one meal a day. Do you know that if you don't eat et like every 4 hours or so (depends on the person) you might slow your metabolism and sabotage all your weight loss effort. And you could be gaining weight instead of loosing weight. I would never do that. If you eat only a few number of calories at that meal, it can be dangerous for your health and even if you ate like the right number of calories you need daily at that meal, it would do no good for you. Your body will store all your calories into glycogen and fat for energy to be used later because you don't need that much calories at one particular meal. I strongly suggest you to eat three meals a day with some collations in between. The key to weight loss is not eating one meal a day but balancing your calories(calories in versus calories out).

chick_in_the_hat 05-12-2006 06:22 PM

cool90 - I'm sure Ilene will answer for herself - but I've seen her posts over a rather long time frame. Never have I seen her advocate any unhealthy behaviour like eating only once a day. In fact - her posts usually agree with pretty much everything you state above. That's what I come to this site for - postive support from experts of all kinds. There are a few here who need to read your post, though. 'Cept for the part about Ilene - well said! :D

Ilene 05-12-2006 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cool90
Ilene. I'm wondering why you are eating only one meal a day. Do you know that if you don't eat et like every 4 hours or so (depends on the person) you might slow your metabolism and sabotage all your weight loss effort. And you could be gaining weight instead of loosing weight. I would never do that. If you eat only a few number of calories at that meal, it can be dangerous for your health and even if you ate like the right number of calories you need daily at that meal, it would do no good for you. Your body will store all your calories into glycogen and fat for energy to be used later because you don't need that much calories at one particular meal. I strongly suggest you to eat three meals a day with some collations in between. The key to weight loss is not eating one meal a day but balancing your calories(calories in versus calories out).

Pardon :dizzy:?? Where did you get the idea that *I* only eat ONE meal /day :lol: ... Maybe if you read my fitday where I had forgotten to eat or add the rest of my day, you saw only one meal. Like chick_in_the_hat said I am a very strong advocate of 5-6 mini meals/day ... NEVER only ONE meal, I'd DIE :faint: ....

salvi 05-14-2006 03:35 PM

Hi ladies. Just popping my head in for a quick "hello!" I just finished reading this entire thread (it took me a couple of sessions of course). I think that Jillian posted here is awesome! Of course, as her popularity and stardom has risen, I understand the lack of posts completely, but nevertheless, she rocks!

Anyways, all this hype about the book, and I just may have to order it. 15.72 on Amazon, and I get free shipping, I think I can swing it even on my tight budget. So, no questions here, just wanted say hi!

Truitt24 05-17-2006 09:21 AM

What I like about the book is that it is an easy read! Jillian has kept it simple enough for the people like me to really capture what I need to know for success! She shares stories and examples. Almost feel like she is talking right to you!

Definitely a great purchase!

Ami Lu 06-04-2006 03:05 PM

I just finished re-reading the book and I have newfound motivation.

I having been doing Weight Watchers and that has kept me losing somewhat slowly (about 0.5 - 1.0 lbs per week), but I have been needing a kick in the butt in regards to cleaner eating and steady exercise. I'm going to start the 12 week plan today and not look back.
For those of you doing the plan in the book, would you recommend doing extra cardio after the circuits or at another time during the day?

Happy weekend everyone!

chick_in_the_hat 06-04-2006 09:15 PM

If you can pull off extra cardio after doing the circuits laid out by Jillian...more power to ya. I often cheat on the cardio portion of the circuit and round out the hour with straight cardio. My excuse is that I think I keep better form on the weight training if I'm not so busy trying to keep my heart rate up.

OTOH - if it's easier to split it up...that should be fine, too. The point is to get into the habit of doing it and enjoying it...or at least enjoying how it makes you feel :carrot:

Come join us on this thread and post how your workouts are going if you want.


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