Make sure you say it with a snooty tone... :snooty:

:lol:

Hey there sugar butt - That is such a cute name... I might steal that handle :-)

I am sorry you are depressed. I hate when I am depressed. It so depressing. That said, exercise is a natural mood enhancer because it releases seratonin and endorphins. I know it isn't a cure all, but it can help depression in other ways as well. Just by taking the steps to take care of yourself and make yourself a priority you a putting a message out into the universe that you are ready for positive change.

I know this wasn't really your question, which I am gonna answer in just a sec... but, depression, painful and hard times etc. these times in our lives catalyze change. They can bring about growth and understanding in ways you never imagined... if you are open to it. I am not sure what your current situation is, but take a good look at your current circumstance and ask yourself if there is anything positive you can take out of it. What can you learn from where you are at right now and what steps do you need to change things. Is there something even better out there on the horizon - I promise you, there is.

Ok, sorry for the little pop psycology rant... no, being depressed won't slow down your metabolism. It can lower your appetite, which can actually make people lose weight, but not always. On the other hand, if you are emotionally eating out of stress / depression then you wouldn't be able to lose weight because you could be over eating.

Sugar Butt - I don't know your current situation, but hang in there. You have the power to change things whenver YOU choose. Even if a certain situation is out of your hands you can change the way you react to it and you can change the way it affects your life. You have the ability to lose weight as well.

Hope this answers your question at least a little. Stay strong SB - I am sending positive powerful vibes your way.

Hey Carmen,

Phatbutt is right! THAT IS WHY THE BOOK HAS THREE S's. That is also why diets NEVER work long term. You can't starve the weight off... you have to exercise it off for all the reasons you mentioned. It isn't possible to create enough of a calorie defecit to see significant weight loss without exercising. Now, you could starve yourself and drop your calories below 1200, but this would be the worst thing you could do to your body long term. If you took your calories too low your metabolism would slow because your body would think it was starving. Also, you lose a significant amount of muscle when you starve yourself and this would also hurt your metabolism and body composition in the long run.

So back to exercise... Carmen, if your AMR is around 2,000 I would try to take 2 lbs a week off. 1 lb from calorie reduction and 1 lb from exercise. So if you hit the gym 5 days a week and push yourself to 85% of your Max Heart rate you should burn about 3,500 cals from the training and from the afterburn affects of the training. Then if you take your daily average calorie intake to 1500 you should hit the two a week you are shooting for. Make sense? The way you are seeing the peeps on the show get those big numbers is through exercise NOT starvation. So I guess we'll be seeing you at the gym ;-)

Hey Jillian ...
Is it normal that on the first week of your program I didn't lose anything? I don't know if I'm screwing something up or what but I was super mad to say the least but everyone around me keeps telling me it's muscle and it weighs more and blah blah but I am going nuts over here! Like why didn't I lose even just one baby little pound? :(

Just another quick observation...Why is everyone sweating their buns off and wearing a sweatshirt?
I noticed this at the gym also. I sweat plenty just from hot flashes...should I too be wearing a sweatshirt?

I've got it!
 

I noticed the sweatshirt thing on the TV show also. Thought it was a bit strange to see people working out so hard in jumpers.

Jillian FYI sweatshirt = jumper.

I also just got back from the shops and am now the proud owner of Jillian Michaels' Winning By Losing book. :dancer: Yippee for me. Now I have to read it, yuck, I hate reading. You know they charge us 45 bucks down here for this book of knowlegde. Alot compared to US prices but not so much compared to the tens of thousands I've spent on exercise and diet things in my life time.


Hey MorticiaAdams I just took a look at your before and during photos and WOW you're looking awesome. Way to go!

Hey Jillian! (or anyone who could answer this question) - What brand of heart rate monitor do you recommend? I don't want to spend a ton but I want it to be accurate. Are the ones you wear just on your wrist accurate? Thanks!! ;)

The worlds smallest fat photo...
 

okay now it's so small you can't see anything... I am 150 in this photo... but it's really hard to tell. I am going to keep working on getting a better image up here

a little better
 

is this a little better??? NO MAKING FUN OF THE NOSE JOB PEOPLE

Wow, you really look different. No making fun here...If I could get a nose job, I would. That and subject myself to braces to rid myself of buck teeth.

I think you were pretty then and your are now, too. You're not only fit now, but look younger, too. It's cool how people look so much younger after losing...It's like all that weight was dragging their life and vitality down to the ground.

WTG (way to go) Jillian!!
I would also like to confess that I laughed when you got dunked last night. :D
And thanks so much for the book, the show and your insightful posts. It really is a great motivation. :dancer: :workout:
Hey - when they print the next edition of your book, can you put the page numbers of the exercise explanations on the workout plan? I wrote all over my book anyway - but I was doing a lot of flipping before I wrote the page numbers in.

I paid $65!!! Mind you - I was so impatient I had to get it the minute I heard about it and thank god for amazon! Of course, I had to get it express post too :dizzy:

Be glad for another aussie to be on board - pop over to the journal threads when you get started :)

Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oy Oy Oy
 

Hey Daisy,

Thanks for the invite to the journal page, I will certainly join you. Too bad we're on opposite sides of the country or we could workout together, although that's not really my issue because unlike our master I LOVE to exercise but you wouldn't know it to look at me. I've currently read to page 37 (woohoo for me) so I won't be too long. And thanks for mentioning you paid $65 now I feel like I scored a bargain!! :D


Jillian,

Crap that doesn't even look like you. My post weight loss surgery would probably be a tummy tuck. :smug: That wasn't the photo they posted in TBL season one, was it? Going back into the memory banks I see you in a lounge room I think, could be wrong. Anyway if so it's nice to see you have a collection of fat photos. I have a tremendous collection. ;)

Oh and I'm reading through the emotions section of the book and the part where you say to learn to love your supposed flaws, well Miss Jillian you will have to be a miracle worker to ever get me to love my stretch marks. :^:

Hi Jillian,

I want to say that you were beautiful then and are beautiful now. I think its totally awesome that you take time out of your schedule to write here. Thank you!

To jillian...... Sugarbutt is what my hubby calls me as my "petname" hehe i love it... u can steal it i dont mind... :) i am emotional eating.... i have been lately trying to instead of running for food getting a glass of ice water instead.. its helping i have already dropped 1.5 pounds.... its hard to and sometimes i just need to eat.... i also been trying to eat a banana or an apple.... the reason behind me being so depressed and stressed out will be fixed soon... thanks goodness... we are moving from where we are now to michigan this month hopefully things will start getting better thanks ms jillian

Jillian, I don't have your book yet (will have to wait until payday the last day of the month) but I've been following these threads. I'm sorry if this question is answered in your book but I'm wondering if you think medication can hinder weightloss? I'll lose six pounds and then gain them doing nothing different although since my hysterectomy in December - I'm stuck and the scale is not moving at all. I've been trying to lose weight for almost three years but in that time I was taking Prozac two weeks out of the month for PMS. About the time I stopped taking the Prozac, I have had two injections in my neck in the last year and half. I'm wondering if these things have messed up my metablism and what a person should do? When I stopped taking the birth control pill years and years ago, I gained weight. When I stopped taking Zoloft for depression for 9 months after having my daughter, I gained 30 pounds in 3 months. I took Allegra D for 9 months for unexplainable hives and gained weight after stopping that medication. I've been debating on whether or not I should have my Resting Metabalism tested (it's a lot of money and so I haven't had it done at this point).

Your book is on my list so if it's in there, I can wait until I get it.

Thank you so much for your wisdom, your teaching and taking the time to reach out to so many people through your book and your posts here. There are many, many diet books out there as every one knows, but you don't see too many of them reaching out even more like you are. Bless you.

Rachelle

Question about drinkies
 

Dear Jillian, you are SO my heroine. *hands you a trophy*

This morning I really didn't feel like going to the gym.. I mean, more than usual. Honestly I could have sworn that you were the other voice in my head and we were arguing all the way to the gym, as I dragged my feet up the stairs, and between sets for half the workout. Then I started thinking how gooood it was going to feel to be finished :) Sometimes it's just not easy. Luckily, getting results does not depend on feeling like doing it. It just depends on actually doing it, moody or not. Other days it just rocks from start to finish.

Anyway... the Australians here seem to have your book in the shops but I havn't seen it here. It's not like we are at the bottom of the world or anything! :p ok, we are, but so is Aus.

What is your take on alcohol? Is it ok, as long as it fits into the calorie limit? OR is it a no-no due to the metabolism stunting effect that it supposedly has?

One more question. When you got started on taking yourself from 'before' to 'now', how did it go? Did you just decide one day, do your research and then go like a rocket and get there in a few months?, or was it a bit stop-start, backward, forward, start, blow-it, restart, bomb-out, restart etc... as seems to be the case for so many of us.

Thankyou. I hope you realise how much we appreciate your time here and your bravery in posting your before pic. Mmm, that dress would not do anyone any favours. Whomever made you wear it was just mean!

Listen sister, we all have pictures in unfortunate dresses like that - I have been a bridesmaid for my four siblings numerous times (some multiple marriages). I agree with a previous poster, you were beautiful then, you are beautiful now. What makes you even more beautiful is the time and genuine caring and support you have shown to all of us. I wish I lived in LA and could hire you as my trainer!

Quite honestly, your picture hit home for me, because in your book you mention that your parents were going through an ugly divorce and you used food to comfort yourself (I am paraphrasing, forgive me if I am wrong). At 16 I experienced something similar, also the period in my life when my struggles with food began, so I see the sadness and hurt in that girl (ok, and the ugly dress) as I do in pictures of myself from that time in my life.

I also want to know, as sajadela asked, how did you go from before to after? Was it gradual or a sudden awakening one day? The reason I am asking is because I feel like I have taken it in stages (very LONG stages) and go two steps forward and one step back. You have been so honest all along, which is what I absolutely love about you, so I also would appreciate an answer to this question. Your honestly, from an LA living, ***-kicking diva has been such an amazing breath of fresh air, I look forward to more of it!

Patricia

Hi Jillian!
 

I've been anxiously awaiting your book in the mail, and I finally received it and finished reading it yesterday!!! I really enjoyed reading it, and I am so excited to see you posting here in this forum--we greatly appreciate it!!!

I plan on rereading the science section of your book; however, I feel like I'm still at a loss for ideas for meals. I saw your sample menus you posted here, and I really liked having an example to look at; however, I'm unsure of substitutions. I think I'm a slow oxidizer, based on the tests in your book. What would you suggest as a substituition for a carb instead of oatmeal for breakfast? I'm sure oatmeal is probably the best for me to eat--maybe I can learn to like it; however, I have only been able to eat the kind of instant oatmeal that has the maple brown sugar flavoring already in it, and somehow I'm thinking that's not the type of oatmeal you were referring to! :lol:

I love watching you on BL, especially this second season! I'm looking forward to getting started on your program and getting this weight off; however, I'm a little nervous on planning my meals for my being a slow oxidizer. Would I be ok just using the recipies you have in your book, or are they geared to a specific type of oxidizer?

Thanks for all of your help!

Christy

Rachelle-I'm not Jillian but I am a doctor so I will try to answer your questions if you don't mind. Jillian can certainly add anything else she thinks is relevant. As for the antidepressants you took, Prozac typically does not make people gain weight and in fact when it first came out, family doctors were prescribing it as a weight loss agent. Zoloft tends to be what we call "weight neutral" meaning people neither gain nor lose on this medication. However, I have had a few people and I mean FEW swear to me that these medications made them gain weight. There are some psychiatric medications that really make people pack on pounds but these are not among them. As for the Allegra D-the "D" is Pseudofed which is what they make illegal crank out of. You've probably noticed that they've moved all the Sudafed behind the counter at your local drugstores and department stores. Most people feel hyper when they take Sudafed containing compounds and probably have some appetite suppression from it as well. I avoid the stuff because I can't sleep when I take it. It would not be surprising for you to gain weight when you stopped taking this medication.

As for the injections in your neck-I assume they were for pain. Most of those injections are a combination of a steroid (related to prednisone) and a local anesthetic (related to novocaine). Anyone who has ever taken prednisone can tell you (including my dog) that it makes you eat like a horse. There is more to it than that but I don't think you want all the details. Getting an injection is not as bad as taking it as a pill but most people do find they eat more and put on a few pounds and the more injections you get, the worse the weight gain problem. However, if you need the injections, you need to be aware that it is something you have to watch out for. I hope that is helpful.

okay heres a question not necessaryly(umm cant spell) towards jillian but anyone can answer... i have been trying to find this book.. cant find it awhere.... okay wheres a good place to get it? I do not buy stuff online... its a promise i made myself (at least i am sticking to something)... please help?

I've seen it everywhere!! Walmart, Target, Barnes and Noble, Borders bookstores. I'm surprized I haven't seen it at Costco though..... Good luck!!

I haven't seen it at Walmart - but I got mine at Barnes & Noble.

checking in
 

hi there my lovely ladies...

I am so sorry I have been errant... A little crazy these days. Just checking in to let you know that you are all on my mind and I will get to next round of questions very soon.

xo
J

Question for Jillian re:Cardio
 

Hi Jillian!

In my previous post, I asked a nutrition question, and this time I have an exercise question for you. I have read your book and the sections on cardio, but I was wondering what your thoughts were on steady state cardio vs. HIIT.

Thanks!

Christy

Hi Jillian, we've missed you! We know how busy you are.....we thank you for stopping by to let us know you are thinking of us! We look forward to reading your answers!!

High Purine foods
 

First of all, like everyone else here, I thank you for all your effort to help us in our goals to become healthier people. :hug:

I am a fast oxidizer and had guessed it even before the test told me I was right. I'm a carb addict so I know that this will be difficult but I have so many health related goals that I will do what it takes.

My question is this: What OTHER options are there for high purine foods other than what is listed in the book? I have a blood clotting disorder and can not consume large amounts of vitamin K and pretty much just looking at the list nauseated me! I wouldn't be able to get any of those foods down. Suggestions?

Kristin

I've made it to the short list of 200 for the Oz BL, that's kinda scary..

sidewalk = footpath
cantelope = rock melon
bangs = fringe
jello = jelly
jelly = jam
soda/pop = soft drink

You will be tested!!

OZ that is great!! I read about this on the TBL Board.....keeping my fingers crossed for you!!

I can't believe that I didn't know that Jillian, THE JILLIAN has been posting on 3FC!!!!!!!!!!

JILLIAN! I just want to tell you what a source of inspiration you are! I became a certified personal trainer to try and overcome my "weight problem" (then I didn't really have one, at least not like I thought I did). I got discouraged and quit, quit smoking at the same time and with in a year I gained 40 pounds! Watching you gives me a lot of motivation. I have lost quite a bit so far and switched my major to Nutrition, which is what I always wanted to do but have felt too self conscious. I want to start 2006 not overweight (technically at 155 my BMI will be "normal") and spend the year getting in the shape to begin training for a fitness show. Your physique is one that I strive for! Just wanted to tell you that you're making such a difference just being you! I'm a huge fan!!!

no way! i thought about it, but guess i am a little scared about going on tv.

great job! :D

got to add a couple too :)

cilantro = coriander
duvet/comforter = doona

You're sneaky Jen, keeping an eye on me on the other board :) thankyou. :)

Hey Daisy.. at first I was so excited, now I'm freaking out. Still a long way to go though. :spin: Nice additions to the list of translations BTW.

oh, got another one

cell phone = mobile!

its funny looking at these differences ;)

commercials = ads
thong = g-string
rubber = condom
eraser = rubber

Have we gone too far off topic?? :)

LOL :lol: - can you imagine the predicament?

at least jillian will be up with the lingo :D

I know all too well about the predicament. I was an exchange student and did a year of high school in the states. One day I very vocally asked for a rubber in class, when EVERYONE stopped and looked at me, I'm like What!!??

Thanks for the translations girls!

Oz, good luck with Oz BL, how cool would that be? :banana:

New and confused!
 

Quick introduction :)

I'm Cath, 22 years old and live in Sydney, Australia *waves*

I bought the book last week (Yes, $65 Amazon International Courier lol) and and quite confused regarding what to eat.

I'm a balanced oxidiser and worked out my calorie intake to be approx 1,350.

I've already made a weekly plan, which varies my calorie intake each day - so that's under control!

However, after looking at it with the "40% Carbs, 30% Protein & %30 Fat" theory; it's just not working :(

Even on my 2000 calorie day, the percentage is 22% Protein, 62% Carbs and 10% Fat - which obviously isn't right.

I'm a partial vegeterian, which means I only eat chicken and seafood. I guess I can throw in a couple of egg whites to up my protein, but that's still not lowering the carbs.

I'm eating Soy&Linseed bread and I don't eat rice, white bread or any other bad carbs.

Most of the carbs are actually from vegetables; apparently carrots are 86% Carbs, so that's why my averages are looking so high. Or maybe I'm calculating them wrong? I should try it using FitDay.com ...

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EDIT:

Okay, Fitday.com says it worked out to be

Total: 1082
Fat: 19 173 17%
Sat: 4 33 3%
Poly: 5 44 4%
Mono: 8 74 7%
Carbs: 167 575 56%
Fiber: 23 0 0%
Protein: 71 285 28%

gahhhhh
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As for my dietary needs, I thought I should be eating 1 serve Protein, 2 serves Dairy, 3 serves Fruit, 4 serves Vegetables and around 4 serves of Carbs. Is that right?

I'm just confused to whether I should concentrate on making sure I eat the right number of CALORIES per day; or make sure I maintain the right PERCENTAGES?

Hope everyone's doing well & a HUGE thank you to Jillian for being the incredible person that she is! :hug:

<3 Cath

Maybe someone could condense the questions for Jillian and put them all in one post. I looked through the last few pages and I didn't even have time to read it. I can't imagine what it would be like for her. Just trying to help by stating the obvious!

More Oz/UK lingo:

pudding = dessert
sweet = dessert
car par = parking lot
washing up liquid = dish soap/dishwashing liquid
telly = television

My boyfriend is English, so I'm sure I'll think of more! :)