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RockerGirl 11-04-2005 09:40 AM

Since my last post I have lost 1lb. My weigh-in day is on Monday. I got on the scale today out of curiousity and showed another 1lb loss, but I won't count it offically until Monday. I am a little behind on my Fitday journal so you will need to go back prior to Oct 28th, but as you will see I eat basically the same thing everyday. I also did the Niacin test mentioned in the book and didn't have a flushing effect at all. I took the quiz and came up as a balanced oxidizer, but per the niacin test I am a slow oxidizer so now I am a little confused as to which diet I should be following.

Thanks for your help.

ledom 11-04-2005 10:39 AM

Jillian - thanks so much for your thoughtful answers to our questions. I am learning so much from you and your words of encouragment are making all the difference. You have a special talent for motivation - that combined with your knowledge of what works - and your generosity is a "Winning" combination. I feel so lucky to have such a direct connection with you through 3fc. Your answer to Lizette so hit home with me. Thanks, thanks, thanks.

Jen415 11-04-2005 10:47 AM

Jillian wrote me:

Jen - you are so cute. Don't be scared or discouraged :-) I won't hurt ya... well, maybe just a little. Seriously, the key is to push yourself to YOUR limit. Not my limit or anyone elses for that matter. Remember the part about doing cardio? In the book I ask you to work at 85% of your MHR. What it will take to get you to 85% is totally different then what it will take to get me to 85% and so on. Listen, I won't be the one to tell you "oh just do what you can or just 8 minutes in the morning" blah blah blah. Listen, that stuff is placating and condesending. You are better off being told that it takes work because it does. But, that doesn't mean you have to hurt yourself or work at a level you are not ready for. The whole point of pushing you is to empower you not to disempower you. How about this, you put in 4 hours a week at and push yourself as much as you can. If you can't do what's in the book right away SO WHAT! You WILL get there... just keep pushing. Don't be scared... start out with 30 min of resistance training and 30 minutes of cardio. Does this make sense? Listen to your body - you will know when you can do more and when you need to lighten up. Also, eleanor Roosevelt said you should do something every day that scares you... when you conquer your fears it can only make you stronger. I promise you Jen - you CAN TOTALLY DO THIS. I think you have no idea what you are capable of... take the leap. It's the only way to move towards change momma. I am right here to help in case you get scared again.

Jillian, my sistah:

Thanks for writing me back! There is SO MUCH TRUTH in what you wrote. And you are right--I don't think I know what I am capable of....but....I'm dang sure gonna find out. I am ready to TAKE THE LEAP and push myself as hard as possible.

Thanks for being there for me--and all of us!

Jillian Michaels 11-04-2005 06:22 PM

Hey there ladies... I can't figure out how to post my fat photo... Yes, I am in fact an idiot... help... anyone...

MrsJim 11-04-2005 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Jillian Michaels
Hey there ladies... I can't figure out how to post my fat photo... Yes, I am in fact an idiot... help... anyone...

Here I am :)

Hey Jillian...check this thread out...

Posting a photo

If all else fails, just give me a shout via PM. ;)

tobethinner 11-04-2005 08:16 PM


Thanks so much for your help and encouraging words to everyone. I will do your suggestion for my night shift.
I love what I do for a living but I wish I could spend more time working on myself. I would like to be at the biggest loser camp not to win but just have the opportunity to eat healthy and workout and spend time fixing myself! I have been struggling to lose this extra 45lbs for about 5 yrs. I was 119lbs 5'5" 14%BF, when I got pregnant. I had just finished competing in my first bodybuilding show placing 5th in my weight class. My husband (a police officer) worked night shift and I had a day job so in the early morning I would meet a friend at the gym for a few hrs, go to work, and when I'd get home he'd have dinner ready, then he left for work and I went back to the gym.
I gained 80lbs with my pregnancy. When my son turned 1yr I had gotten down to 150lbs. I started nursing school so less time to workout so weight eventually came back on. This weight gain has been a thorn in my marriage to say the least. It's very hard at work to make good choices. I am a classic emotional eater and the MDs and other nurses always bring in very yummy treats. So if I'm having a hard day, hard pt, etc. I eat and eat and eat. I cannot stop and call my support system and I haven't established one at work yet. So I will stop my rambling and get to the question. How do you suggest I handle these situations?
I did awesome last week with my food and exercise and lost 5lbs. This week my husband has been home from work so I feel work was my outlet but I made pretty poor choices with the holloween candy so I've gained back 1.5lbs. I have a cruise in Dec. that I want to be in the 150's for, that way weight won't be as much of a thorn with my husband. We went to Hawaii March 2004 when I weighed 195-200lbs and I didn't enjoy myself at all and neither did my husband. I don't want to paint a bad picutre of my husband. He is a great person, awesome father, and my biggest fan. He will support any diet I try, will eat any food I cook, but he likes how I looked before (don't blame him:) ) and I liked how I looked and felt at that time also. Okay I will stop there.
Thanks again for your help. I love the workouts. I never did circuits before now and love how my body feels when I'm done. Thanks for your inspiration and motivation.

OzLoserToBe 11-05-2005 07:12 AM

I have a question.
Hi Jillian.

I don't have your book YET (hangs head in shame) so if it's covered there, sorry. Anyway I was reading your sample workout routine on TBL website and noticed that on most days you suggest doing cardio first thing on an empty stomach. I've heard that this is to get your metabolism started, though I've also heard that breakfast does that and I've heard that a warm glass of water with a twist of lemon does it too. It's gets confusing. So, firstly I was wondering exactly the reason why you do it on an empty stomach?

Secondly as a professional dieter/exercise routine tester I have on numerous occassions tried to exercise on an empty stomach and everytime I've either felt nauseous or dizzy or have blacked out. So I'm assuming I shouldn't be doing this. A piece of fruit, a piece of toast, all I need is one small thing and then I'm fine, just not on an empty stomach. Is this normal and if so should I eat something small to enable a good workout or should I eat a complete breakfast and then workout?

By the way the weather down here in Australia is fining up nicely so make sure you bring your togs. And just so you're prepared we usually refer to a sofa as a lounge. That's right you find the lounge in the lounge room, we try to keep things simple. I trust you'll pass this important info onto Bob.

You see Jillian, don't feel like we're using you. It's a two way street. I give you some useful tips and in turn you'll give me some. :lol:

Thanks heaps.

brattypatti 11-06-2005 02:30 PM

Powerful Post

Originally Posted by Jillian Michaels
YOu need to ask yourself WHY you want to change. THAT IS YOUR MOTIVATION. Look inside yourself... do you want to fall in love? Do you want to be more confident at work? Do you want to live longer? Do you want to feel strong and powerful and help others to feel the same way? Think of it like this... if you buy a beautiful home - I am willing to bet (unless you are paris hilton) that you had to work for the money to buy that home... but it sure is worth it once you are living there. It's the same thing with a healthy body. It takes work to build a healthy body, but it sure is worth it once your are living in it :-)

Hi Jillian,
I have been lurking and reading all the posts here and I just had to let you know that this post made me stop. . almost made me cry. I am going to print it out and put it by my computer and I am on my way to buy your book as soon as it is printed.
Thank you for your time and caring about others.

:( I just got back from Walmart and no book. Sold out. They had it yesterday ! grrrrrrrrrrrr :mad: We dont have a book store here, so I will have to have my daughter search for it for me in her home town!

AMYC 11-06-2005 03:23 PM

Jillian, You Kick Butt, Woman!!!
I think you are so awesome. I love the show. I didnt realize you actually visit this site. I can not wait to see your pic. You are in such good shape now. I will have to check out your book as well.
I am getting started back on my weight loss program tomorrow, sorta did a "biggest loser" thingy at my gym. (6 week program)
I did so well (lost 17 lbs), then hubby returns from IRAQ, and he had missed all of our favs so we both have gained some weight.
I am so pissed at my self for getting back to square 1 again. I can do it again. It will be alot of hard work, but I will do it........


ps- What do you think about all the " skinny" singer/actress chicks????
They look so bad, but what sad is young girls think they have to starve themselves to look this way!!

sugarbutt 11-06-2005 09:00 PM

Hi jillian this is my first post..... i have a kinda stupid question... but here it goes.... i dont really i exercise with dumbbells and do some floor exercises... i have noone to really push me...so i should be doing alot better i know but the questions is can depression make you now loss weight..... i am kinda just at one spot and it wont change

monkee 11-07-2005 10:52 AM


It has been said over and over but you truly do Rock! I am a lifetime lurker on forums and this is the first time I have been compelled to register and join in. I have read all your posts and find them all inspirational, however the quote below really compelled me to write, because that is exactly how I feel. As a woman with a full time job, three kids,a husband and a dog, I spend my life taking care of others, as do many of the women on this board, I bet. I know in my heart that I should be giving myself time to care for me, the problem is, I have struggled all my life believing that I am worth it.

However, I do feel like I am starting to "get it" and when you said in your post below that when you don't feel good about your body, other areas of your life suffer, I got it even more. The few times I have been at a weight I am comfortable at, my confidence soars and I am better at everything I do, my job, a better mom, a better friend, wife, sister, daughter blah blah blah. You know what I am talking about.

I am really looking forward to seeing your "fat" picture posted, sounds strange, I know, but that will be a huge motivation for me. I have carried around the same 25-40 pounds of extra weight for many, many years, I lose some and then get nervous, or don't believe I can (or am worthy of) losing any more. I have had it, I am fed up with this and want to have the body I know I can (and deserve - see I am getting it!!) I have your book, have ordered your tapes and can't wait to bite this bullet.

I guess I don't really have a question, I just wanted to thank you so very much for taking the time to answer all of our questions on this board and for being such an inspiration and motivation. Your no-nonsense, honest and caring approach is much appreciated.



I think about how I want to feel about my body. Honestly, when I don't feel good about myself physically I am less comfortable in every aspect of my life. My love life suffers. I get insecure professionaly etc. I tell myself everytime I head out the door to the gym - you are gonna feel so good when this is over. Then I start to think about all the things that will come from me going. I visualize my body strong and fit. I think about how if I look healthy it will motivate others etc.

Chklithunder 11-08-2005 12:31 PM

Question re: caloric intake
Hi Jillian,

Just got your book and read it from cover to cover. Awesome. My question is one that someone else asked you but I didn't see the answer to it. If you've answered it already please forgive my oversight.

In your book you provide a formula for figuring out my AMR, and then it says to subtract 3500 cals from that if you want to lose a lb per wk, and to subtract 7000 cals if you want to lose 2 lbs, but never to eat below 1200 cals per day. After subtracting the 3500 cals for 1 lb per wk I am already well below the 1200 cals eaten per day. Am I doing something wrong?

SmartButt 11-08-2005 12:41 PM

AMR question
Carmen - what did you figure out your AMR to be? Make sure you are subtracting 3500 calories for the entire week, so that's your AMR x 7, less 3500 or 7000. If that's what you figured, perhaps there was a miscalculation somewhere when doing the AMR?

Chklithunder 11-08-2005 01:40 PM

PB - I just recalcutated it. I did make a mistake before, but it looks like my AMR is still too low to shoot for a 2 lb per wk loss. My AMR is 2078. Times 7 is 14546. Subtract 7000 (2 lbs/ wk) = 7546. Divided by 7 = 1078. Should I only be concentrating on losing 1 lb per wk?

SmartButt 11-08-2005 02:40 PM

re: AMR, etc
Hi Carmen,

Hopefully Jillian can clarify this... since this is just my interpretation of the book. I think when she says don't go under 1200, she means as far as eating and lack of eating. I *think* if you want to go under 1200 calories a day, that means, eat 1200 at least, but then exercise the rest of those calories off to make up for your deficit.

Does that sound right, anyone else?


Jillian Michaels 11-09-2005 12:57 AM

Hey there hotties... was up? Checkin in on ya!

Ok - I have been trying to post my freakin fat photo and it's too big so I am having a friend who knows computers size it down for me - hang in there, it's comin.

And now to business...

Rankle - You sound like a balanced oxidizer to me. Your written test came out balanced. Then you show all the signs of someone who doesn't function well on zero carb diets, but additionally you have a significant reaction to the niacin. I would definately go with a 40 30 30 ratio of carbs, fat, protein and let's see how you feel and how the weight comes off. If the results aren't good we can tweak and make changes then.

Jillian Michaels 11-09-2005 01:04 AM

Skinny J - I actually don't recalculate my peoples calories until I put them on a maintenance diet. I establish a calorie floor of 1200 for all my ladies NO MATTER WHAT (1500 for men) and then a calorie cieling, which I base on their BMR (typically). Your BMR really won't change all that much unless you have lost a HUGE amount of weight like 50 plus pounds. The one thing I do with my peeps is to vary their calorie intake daily. I go from their calorie floor and their BMR throughout the entire time we are trying to lose weight. I do this so their body can't adjust to the constant reduction of calories and cause their metabolism to slow down. Once you hit your goal weight, take your calories up to your AMR and this will allow you to maintain your weight. Does this make sense?

Jillian Michaels 11-09-2005 01:08 AM

Rocker - it seems like you are finally getting a little movement on the scale. I know this is gonna sound drastic, but I want you to cut carbs for 5 days. Drink tons of water and cut sodium as well. I actually want you to "diet" for 5 days - as much as I hate that word. Go with leaner proteins and veggies - only for 5 days. I think this should shock your system a little and mix things up. If you feel terrible or lethargic let me know, but if not let's give it a whirl and see if it works. Also - I want you to take your cals down to 1300. Once again - don't panic it's only for 5 days. Then let's see how your body reacts and go from there.

Jillian Michaels 11-09-2005 01:10 AM

Ledom - Thanks for taking the time to read my answers! I am so happy they are motivating you in some small way :-)

Jen - how's it going mommy? You burnin it up at the gym or what??? Still scared or taking no prisoners?

Jillian Michaels 11-09-2005 01:18 AM

Dearest Alisa...

What's a tog? Thanks so much for the lounge tip. I will make sure to fill Bob in on the appropriate lingo asap... NOT ;-)

As for the BL site... I DID NOT WRITE MOST OFF THE STUFF ON THAT SITE i.e. diet / exercise regimen you find on their site. In some cases, they would take random diets that I would design weekly for contestants and post it on their site. For example, the diet they have up there now as "Jillian's Red Team Diet" was something I created specifically for Lizzeth from Season 1. First I don't believe in a one size fits all approach to nutrition. In other words, I would not have people eating the same foods nor would I have them on the same calorie allowances. As for the working out - DO NOT DO IT ON AN EMPTY STOMACH. That is something that the Blue Team did on season 1. Not the red team. In my book I specifically say not to do this for a multitude of reasons, one of which is the one you mentioned (low blood sugar). I tell my peeps to eat about 45 minutes before we train. This will also give you more energy to burn more calories during your workout and it will make you less likely to metabolize lean muscle tissue.

Hope that helps clarify a bit...:-)
Keep those Aussie tips comin'!

OzLoserToBe 11-09-2005 01:21 AM


Haven't finished reading your post yet but while you're here I thought I'd quickly reply to your tog question. :)

Always referred to in the plural form togs are your swimmers.

Sincerely, your Aussie guide extraordinare.

Jillian Michaels 11-09-2005 01:23 AM

Dear Patty - They sold out of my book at Walmart??? YAY YAY YAY... ok - so sorry I need to have a wildly obnoxious moment.

If it isn't there in the next day or so let me know I will send ya a copy myself! I am so glad that motivation post spoke to you. It's all true, babe. YOU are the reason to get up every day and make it happen. YOU are worth it. YOU deserve every wonderful thing life has to offer and all you have to do is believe in your ability to have it.

Anyway, if you can't find the book let me know! I'll hook it up for you. Big kisses and hugs your way.


mavrneen 11-09-2005 01:25 AM

Thanks for the answer bout eating before you work out. I've always been confused about that since everywhere you turn someone's saying something different about it. Just wanted to say hi since i see your a night owl like me and i hope you got the private message :)

Jillian Michaels 11-09-2005 01:29 AM

Amy - can I call ya Ames for short? That's not shorter at all is it... it's actually longer I guess. Ok, back to Amy.

So Amy - You are not back to square on at all momma because now you know that you can lose weight - you did it before you'll do it again. Losing 17 lbs in 6 weeks is amazingly fast! You can do it again and you will... when you are ready and you sound ready. Don't be pissed at yourself - there is no reason for that. Beating yourself up is not productive in ANY way. We all go up and down in our weight. Me included! I am always putting on and taking off about 10 lbs. Seriously, no worries baby. Hit the gym tomorrow and jump back in - the waters fine... promise.

OzLoserToBe 11-09-2005 01:33 AM

Definitely clarified. Makes me happy too because my body is much happier that way. You know I've even been to health retreats (fat farms) where they wanted me to get up and workout before breakfast and then they'd claim I was faking it when I told them I was feeling dizzy etc. and felt I should eat first. They said unless I had diabetes I didn't need to. Sheesh.

Thankyou thankyou thankyou.

I was excited to hear about the Aussie BL. I thought I'd love to be on Jillian's team cause she seems really tough and I like to be pushed hard. Then I read the diet plan under your name on the website and thought oh no what would she say if I didn't want to work out first thing, I was worried. Still with all this worry I applied anyway. :)

Now I'm rambling. Thanks again, have a good one.

Jillian Michaels 11-09-2005 01:35 AM

PM means private message... AHA! Ugghh I am such a dork. I really have to brush up on my computer skills if I am gonna try to hang with you savy chicks. Ok - tomorrow I will figure out how to shrink the KB of my fat photo (right now it keeps saying the file is too big to post), I am gonna answer the rest of the questions on this thread, and I am going to read all my PM's.

xoxoxoxoxoxoxo to all of you!


OzLoserToBe 11-09-2005 01:36 AM

You're a crackup! :lol:

Maureen L 11-09-2005 04:43 AM

Hi Jillian,
I can't believe that the BL has only a couple of more episodes to go. I get inspired watching it every week just knowing that if they can do it so can I.

But one thing I can't seem to do is figure out my AMR. I am sorta mathmatically challenged.. :shrug:

Here are my numbers and maybe hopefully you or someone can give me the right answer.
My weight is 165..I am 64" and I am 52 yrs. young.


mavrneen 11-09-2005 07:46 AM


First :welcome3:

Two things i need to figure your AMR: 1) your daily activity level (from p55 of Jillian's book), and 2) your daily exercise expenditure (p57)
Not knowing those two things here are the numbers i came up with for your BMR x your daily activity level:
Sedentary-1563 cals
Light-1705 cals
Moderate-1847 cals
High-1989 cals

Simply pick which of these matches your daily activity level and add your daily exercise calories burned to them-either from the chart or from your own heart rate monitor. If you have any more trouble with it let me know and i'll get your info and give you the exact number :)

MorticiaAddams 11-09-2005 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by Jillian Michaels
PM means private message... AHA! Ugghh I am such a dork. I really have to brush up on my computer skills if I am gonna try to hang with you savy chicks.

I was the same way until I married a Computer Tech :D

Just wanted to say :bravo: Thank You for visiting the site and that im on the same road as everyone is to a more healthy life style.
Actually both the husband and I are changing the way we live.
Cant wait to see your before pic ;) .
Our before and during pic is in my signature below.
Thanks again and congrats on a great show with a trully great bunch of people who really show that it can be done.
P.S We have the book and are in process of taking it in!

momma233 11-09-2005 08:39 AM

Jillian, your photo

You can go to photobucket.com and upload your photo then you can edit it and make it smaller. Then you right click and copy the img, then paste here in your message. Make sense? If not, let me know k.

momma233 11-09-2005 08:44 AM

HELP, confession time!

OK, I have your wonderful book and I have figured my AMR and I am a Balanced Oxidizer. I had this all figured out last week! I am back to my same ole same stuff. I get stuck with the info and do not put it into action. What the heck is wrong with me?

I get overwhelmed when I think about what to eat everyday. I have got to lose this weight! I cannot keep up with my two boys. The other day my 4 yr. old ran from me and I couldn't catch up! I was so mad at myself. He could have gotten really far away from me ya know.

I don't mean to sound like I'm whining, I'm really frustrated with myself right now.

Thanks for being here! It means a lot!

Jen415 11-09-2005 08:49 AM

Hey Jillian!

As you can see by my signature, your post to me has inspired me. I am studying the book (figuring out what my metabolic type is), writing down everything I eat, and doing 30 minutes of cardio and 30 minutes of strength training. I am hoping in a month or so I will be able to do the workouts in the book. I have to build up some strength first. My most annoying thing to deal with at the moment is my monthly cycle (a/k/a TOM the [email protected]!) and all the water weight gain that comes with it.

Speaking of that, how did those monthly cycles affect the ladies' weigh-ins on the show? I can almost bet that the weeks where they lost 2 lbs or less was one of those weeks.

Anyway, will keep in touch with ya! Thanks for your help so far!

brattypatti 11-09-2005 01:11 PM

Thanks Jillian,
My daughter lives in a college town (they have tons of book stores) and is suppose to be picking it up for me this week. That was so sweet of you to offer.
After losing this much , I feel I need to step it up on the exercise so I can continue to lose and firm up while I am at it! I just need to learn more how to go about it, that's where your book will help me.
Thank you Again ! I cant wait to read your book ..... and it was more than pretty awesome that it was sold out at Wal-mart :)
Take Care,
Patti :)

SmartButt 11-09-2005 01:46 PM

My own dilemma...
Hi Jillian,

I've read your book and my friend and I are going to do your program together. I haven't started the "Sweat" portion yet. I'm still tackling the first two S's! (And why does Barnes & Noble put your book under Diets instead of Fitness? bah!)

So here is our situation... she and I tried South Beach before, and we wound up becoming over obsessive about what we ate, to the point where looking back, I think we've been eating less than 1200 calories a day for weeks at a time. I'm sad to think we could possibly have put our bodies into starvation mode. We never counted calories before and had no idea about not going under or over (SB sorta tells you not to count calories or worry about it) so now we're worried.

We had stopped seeing any weight loss results long ago, even though we felt we were eating the right foods. So now that we are forcing ourselves to eat ENOUGH calories, we wonder if there is anything you suggest for people in our position?

For instance, now that we are eating 1200 calories (but not doing 1 hour a day of exercise yet) we are actually seeing a gain on the scale. Is the only way to get our metabolism up to do the workouts? Or is there something extra you'd suggest for us?

Thank you so much for taking the time to answer all of our questions. You're really becoming my hero! Here's a dancing carrot in your honor.

monkee 11-09-2005 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by Jillian Michaels
Ok - tomorrow I will figure out how to shrink the KB of my fat photo (right now it keeps saying the file is too big to post), J

BWAH! This is too funny. I am sure you weren't THAT big Jillian ;)


Looking4TheWayOut 11-09-2005 03:36 PM

I'm surprised you gals didn't see the picture already. Jillian showed it on last year's Biggest Loser. I still think she was beautiful, but she really has transformed her body!

RockerGirl 11-09-2005 05:00 PM


Okay I'll try it! 5 days is no big thing. I mean come on I get to say Jillian put me on a "diet". :cool: I will start on Monday that will hopefully give me time to get an answer to one question.

You said to eat lean protein and veggies. I know that I should eliminate breads, pasta, rice, cereal and things like that, but I wanted to check to see if I should eliminate milk/dairy and fruit as well for the 5 days.

Also, do you think the niacin test is more accurate than the quiz? Just curious!


OzLoserToBe 11-09-2005 05:13 PM

I saw the "fat" photo in season one. Yeah she wasn't THAT big but definitely big enough that you can appreciate the transformation and feel that she GETS IT.

Looking4TheWayOut 11-09-2005 05:28 PM

Yes, that's what I thought about Jillian's photo. She wasn't huge, but she definitely had to work to get that body! :lol:

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