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BillBlueEyes 05-01-2010 05:32 AM

Beck Diet For Life/Solution – May 2010 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach
 
Welcome to the discussion group, support group, diet coach group, diet buddy group relating to the two books by Dr. Judith S. Beck:and the first bookThe Beck Diet Solution is a psychological program, not a food plan. It provides a step-by-step program to learn specific techniques to stay on our diet, lose weight, and maintain our weight loss for life. The program is based on Dr. Beck's clinical research in Cognitive Therapy (CT).

The Complete Beck Diet for Life expands the earlier work and includes a food plan with suggested menus. From the cover:
With The Complete Beck Diet for Life you'll discover the 5 stages of successful dieting and maintenance. You'll learn how to motivate yourself, give yourself credit for every change you make, create time and energy for dieting, and handle hunger and cravings. Dr. Beck eases you into changing one step at a time. You'll master one task before moving on to the next. And you'll learn techniques to deal with challenging situations, such as sticking with ou plan at celebrations and dealing with "food pushers." With Dr. Beck's skills, you'll achieve a lifetime of healthful eating and lifelong motivation.
This is a place to discuss the Beck strategies and our daily efforts, to receive and provide support, and, for some of us, is where we serve as on-line diet buddy (coach) to each other.

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Previous Beck threads on 3fatchicks.com:

Beck Diet For Life/Solution – April 2010 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach
Beck Diet For Life/Solution – March 2010 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach
Beck Diet For Life/Solution – February 2010 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach
Beck Diet For Life/Solution – January 2010 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach

Beck Diet For Life/Solution – December 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach
Beck Diet For Life/Solution – November 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach
Beck Diet For Life/Solution – October 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach
Beck Diet For Life/Solution – September 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach
Beck Diet For Life/Solution – August 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach
Beck Diet For Life/Solution – July 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach
Beck Diet For Life/Solution – June 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach
Beck Diet For Life/Solution – May 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach
Beck Diet For Life/Solution – April 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach
Beck Diet For Life/Solution – March 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach
Beck Diet For Life/Solution – February 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach
Beck Diet For Life/Solution – January 2009 – Support, Discussion, Buddy/Coach

The Beck Diet Solution – December 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach
The Beck Diet Solution – November 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach
The Beck Diet Solution – October 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach
The Beck Diet Solution – September 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach
The Beck Diet Solution – August 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach
The Beck Diet Solution – July 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach
The Beck Diet Solution – June 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach
The Beck Diet Solution – May 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach
The Beck Diet Solution – April 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach
The Beck Diet Solution – March 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach
The Beck Diet Solution – February 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach
The Beck Diet Solution – January 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach

The Beck Diet Solution – December 2007 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach
The Beck Diet Solution - November 2007
The Beck Diet Solution - October 2007
The Beck Diet Solution - September 2007
The Beck Diet Solution - August 2007
The Beck Diet Solution - July 2007
The Beck Diet Solution - May/June 2007

BillBlueEyes 05-01-2010 05:34 AM

Saturday
 
Diet Coaches/Buddies - The warblers aren't here yet. Supposedly they're all perched in Delaware waiting for a favorable South-West wind to sail up here. But it matters because the trees are leafing and it's much easier to spot small warbles if they arrive before the leaves come out.

Did gym; CREDIT moi. Looked forward to my sardines for lunch - the 99 cent can. Well, there are 3 sardines in the can total, LOL. Big guys for sardines. Packed in water isn't as tasty as packed in oil - think I'll stick to the oil. I must have purchased these to save a few calories, but taste matters also. So, again, I'm full of Omega-3's; CREDIT moi.


onebyone - Yay for seeing the 20 pounds gone from the scale instead of the minor fluctuation. Kudos for remembering "persist in victory."

Beverlyjoy - Great use of your 90 minutes of waiting time to get your arms around the hard chapters in Beck. Usually when I'm in a doctor's waiting room I veg out on whatever awful magazines are sitting there. (Talk about a good source of cooties, LOL.) Kudos for taking care of your mother despite your own foot/ankle pain.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Neat that you're aware of "comforting associations between dirt, tired, and splitting a sandwich in the sunroom with my husband" since that's a unique combo. Surprised that bamboo might worm its way into your garden; my DW serves me sauteed Garlic Mustard about once a year but it'll never grow in her yard, LOL. I do think a stand of bamboo makes one good looking natural barrier.

Shepherdess - Neat choice to use "tried and true" while you recover from your week of midwifery. Kudos for running when "wind had died down to a breezy 20 mph" which seems a bit breezy from here.

Cheryl (Seadwaters) - Yay for soup as nature's way of cleaning out the fridge. Ouch for exhausted and still having the energy to work your resistance muscle on that cake. LOL at your dogs eating whatever is put before them - I'd bet they'd have a heyday with your 6 punnets of strawberries, LOL. If I remember correctly, maryblu has a dog that eats her raspberries right off the bushes.

Debbie (Lexxiss) - An OP pumpkin pie without the crust sounds really yummy. Kudos for avoiding "xrated" foods, LOL.

MerinoGirl - Now that's a long history of weighing yourself, LOL. Count me as one, also, who's developed the habit of seeing the trend in the scale readings without much concern for the jitter.

Readers -
Quote:

day 26
Common Thinking Errors

There are nine common thinking mistakes people make when dieting:

. . .
Thinking Mistake #2: Negative Fortune Telling
You predict the future negatively without considering other possible outcomes.
Examples:
  • Since I didn't lose weight this week, I'll never be able to lose weight.
  • Since I gave into that craving, I'll never be able to tolerate cravings.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 195.

Beverlyjoy 05-01-2010 06:50 AM

Hi beck folks..coaches...buddies..

First of May! Yesterday was a healthy day - I am always grateful for that and the willingness to keep trying.

Our weekly peanut party with the neighborhood children had to changed to tortilla chips (out of peanuts!). I didn't eat any - even though I was holding the bowl...credit! After the snack they all wanted a story. Three year old Adam jumped on my foot in glee after the story - ouch on my already hurting foot/ankle. I came inside after that!

Yesterday was a real 'warm weather' food day. I made a cold Thai noodle salad for lunch and tuna salad for dinner. Sometimes it's good to switch it up. I kept a couple portions of ww spaghetti noodles out in measured portions to use later this week - credit for planning.

Our next door neighbor's had a baby boy. A new one to add to the fun. In a few years, Adam will have a boy to play with - rather than the seven little girls on our street. He's all boy, though - he sleeps with his play lawn mower. (cracks me up!)


wrote down my plan, wrote down everything I ate
stayed in my calorie range
tasted food - alot of the time
eated seated, no seconds - all of the time
slow mindful eating - some of the time
gave myself credit during the day
leave a bite - all of the time
read arc/rc
made some new rc
used resistance techniques
measured food

no exercise/spon. ex.

billbe - I hope the birdies arrive before the camoflauging leaves. We have 6 of our seven bird houses 'in business'. Two more families in the spruces. It's just starting to get 'noisey' - I think we have some hatchlsing in one of the houses all ready. I am trying to get excited for ya - sardines and all. Don't like em...you can have my share. Yes...the omegas are so good. Enjoy. BTW - thanks for hosting this wonderful forum. Sure do appreciate all your time and efforts.

Lexxiss - glad you can get back to your food 'comfort zone' now that company is gone. Sounds like you did well. An op pumpkin pie sounds good.

merina - oh my goodness - on the subject of how often to weigh - it's like politics.... people have their strong opinons!! I think folks have to figure out what works for themselves...whatever is helpful to their program and journey. There should be no judgement. It's like food plans...'one size doesn't fit all' - pardon the pun. Look at all the different approaches/forums there are here at 3fc..many ways to lose weight and live healthfully.
I agree....coaches are an important component of this program.

Have a good day. Remember to treat yourself as you would a good friend.

GosfordGirl 05-01-2010 07:45 AM

Saturday Evening
 
Hi Coaches
A good food day - achieved my eating goals and organised a shopping list and shopped for it. I know for most people this is an everyday achievement but for me it is a challenge to plan and only buy what I have on my list - so credit me! I bought nothing extra - except for some dog food I had actually forgotten to put on the list so they were very happy

I haven't read the pink book for a while and I haven't looked at my A & R cards for a bit so tomorrow I need to give that some time. I am also going to do some slow cooker food for the freezer. I haven't been drinking enough again. I weighed myself, gave credit, stayed on plan, walked around the supermarket for exercise (more than enough!)

BeverlyJoy - Glad you had a healthy day yesterday (and day before) and hope that the medication is helping without side effects. Ouch for jumping for joy right on your foot, You have inspired me to get back into the pink book to stay focussed and on the program - a food plan is not enough

GardenerJoy - Yay for exercise for the first time in a while - that must feel good. Not sure what a Quizno is but probably best avoided methinks - but ritual is a big draw card

Onebyone - Congrats on keeping it down to 20 lbs - that is terrific

Shepherdess - credit for running in windy conditions - but you sound like an old hand at it. Yay for moving on from snacking. I am trying to do a little gentle exercise and hopefully it will increase with time. Not going to leap in and expect miracles

MerinoGirl - your merino sheep is very fetching. Very dear to Australian hearts as it seems we grew up with them even in the city - wchool did that I think. Well done for checking in and reading the postings - I always find it helps

Ruth (Lexxiss) - Glad you have your routine back and it sounds like you get credit for staying in charge of food while they were there. Credit for salad over basketball food - has to be a better choice. Sending supportive thoughts for staying focused and reaching goal

BillBlueEyes - hope those leaves delay a bit and don't hide those tiny birds. I never know what to do with canned sardines if I haven't got toast to put them on - what do you do with them?

That's it folks

Cheryl

Lexxiss 05-01-2010 09:04 AM

Good Morning

I was reading from the green book this AM, and thought I'd share.

From the green book;

Weekend Response Card
Because I want to keep off excess weight, my weekend eating has to be the same as my weekday eating. My body doesn't know or care that it's the weekend, and if I eat too many calories, I'll gain weight. It's worth it to me to control my eating-even on weekends.

Also from the green book,

" There are about 104 weekend days a year, not to mention the numerous holidays, anniversaries, birthdays, showers, weddings, parties, restaurant meals, fairs, conferences, meetings, special occasions, and vacation days."

This put it into perspective for me. Having this knowledge is a good reason to continue to find ways to eat OP during these times. I suppose if all these days were tallied, they would approach something close to 1/2 a year.

I'm headed to our library book sale this AM. I'm hoping to find a pink Beck book and maybe some good nutrition books.

Have a great day everyone!

maryblu 05-01-2010 09:41 AM

May Day
 
Happy May Day, all!

It's Kentucky Derby day as well. I always enjoy the lead up stories and the excitement.

BillBE, your memory is correct, at least half-way. In fact, *both my two dawgs eat my raspberries right off the bushes. They wade right in, never mind the thorns. @##%$@^ I don't have egg-suckin' dawgs, I have raspberry stealin' dawgs.

I agree with you on sardines in water v. oil; taste *does matter.

Our incredible string of warm weather has cooled to a more seasonal norm. This is the earliest ever that the trees are so leafed out. All my plum trees are blooming; it is wonderful, but I keep pinching myself. It could easily be May 25 or later for this to be occurring normally. A seasonally normal frost would now be a *late frost, and could wipe out my apple harvest...*waiting, holding my breath. We got the rain we so desperately needed yesterday. Waiting for it to dry up enough to do some serious planting.

One day at a time staying on track with my journey back to where I want to be. It is easier now than it used to be, and it's more than just that I know how to do it and have confidence in the Beck method. It's more than that.

What makes it easier for me now is that the *pay-off is so*much* bigger relative to the time/effort it takes. It is the difference between feeling *fat and being exactly where I want to be, exactly where I look and feel best. It is a big, big pay-off and worth the effort. That said, I remember when I was losing ...I remember at 190 down from 200, feeling thin. It's all relative, and it's all a big pay off and so very worth the effort. At this point, I don't even need to read advantage cards..I just have to *hold that feeling of *being exactly where I want to be, having my cloths fit perfectly..I just need to *hold that.

Now do as I say, not as I do, Beckies! READ those advantage cards..*laffin'. Will keep posting ..I gotta gitterdun.

I can't help but wonder if I will *ever get to the point that I remain vigilant and live Beck everyday so that I don't have to do this yo-yo thang. *sigh.

gardenerjoy 05-01-2010 10:22 AM

Happy May Day! I've lost 8.5 pounds since the first day of spring! Seven of them in the month of April! My new plan fell into place better yesterday and I'm feeling more confident. Like Beverlyjoy, I am grateful.

WI: -0.1kg (new low), Exercise: +30 1240/1800 minutes for April, Food: 95%op, Read my Advantages and Responses: yes

onebyone: so glad that you are feeling better and persisting in victory!

Shepherdess: good job getting a run in when the conditions weren't ideal and on finding a way to stick with the program using tried and true meals.

Beverlyjoy: oh, you and Lexxiss are inspiring me to get back to the book! I got to the "start your diet" day and have lost all my consistency since then. It sounds like there's good stuff later on that I want to get to!

MerinoGirl: yay for checking in! And for knowing your own history with the scale -- you'll make that work for you!

Lexxiss: yay for getting right on track with your company gone!

BillBlueEyes: good job for getting to the gym and for working out the best sardines for you -- a little oil that brings a lot of Omega-3s and good flavor sounds like a good trade-off.

Beverlyjoy: yay for all your credits and no tortilla chips!

seadwaters: yay for good shopping and for the only impulse buy to be dog food that you needed!

maryblu: good job on a thoughtful post as part of your efforts to get back where you want to be!

Shepherdess 05-01-2010 12:19 PM

Well, yesterday was hit and miss as far as food was concerned. That seems to be the trend right now. I did avoid mindless snacking in the afternoon, but I was baking brownies for the branding today and did not avoid mindless nibbling of brownie bits. I’m trying to stay on track right now, but am not beating myself up too much for the mistakes I’m making. Brandings are always a tough time. It’s tradition to make a big party out of it. We have a coffee break half way through, which is coffee and soda, and several desserts. Then afterwards, we have a big potluck lunch and more desserts. I’m skipping the one today, because I have too much to do. But I have to admit that I’m relieved to not face that food situation two days in a row. I’m just doing my best right now and plan to re-impose some serious discipline when this is all over.

Exercise didn’t happen yesterday. I am desperately trying to get my house clean so on Sunday I can have a crew of 30 cowboys track whatever they pick up on their boots across my floors. But it was snowing all AM anyways, which turned into freezing rain by later afternoon. That didn’t stop my genius Spaniel from swimming in the pond while I was feeding the sheep. I guess that little spot of pond where the outflow water keeps ice from forming was just a little too tempting. Then she sat on the kitchen floor giving me sad brown eyes while her teeth were chattering.

MerinoGirl, I weigh in daily as well. Beck recommends it in the green book (Complete Beck Diet for Life). There are different schools of thought on this and we all just need to do what works for us. I think the important thing is getting to the point where that number is just information and not a judgment on what kind of person we are.

Lexxiss, I agree with your sentiment “I loved the visiting, but will very much enjoy the return to my routine.” Great job using that resistance muscle and having pumpkin pie without the crust. It’s a healthy treat. I’m crossing my fingers that this is the last snow of the year too!

BillBE, yay for being full of omega 3s! It’s always a fine line between saving a few calories and turning a favorite food into a “why bother?” Good job trying to balance it all.

Beverlyjoy, kudos for another healthy day, even with the switch to tortilla chips. Ouch for a three-year-old jumping on your already-tender foot. All of your warm weather food sounds wonderful. It’s making me long for summer!

Seadwaters, great job getting organized and doing all your shopping. I love my slow cooker. It is so great when busy. I turn it on in the AM, have a hot healthy dinner waiting for me in the evening and there’s always plenty of leftovers.

Maryblu, I’m laughing at your raspberry stealing dog! I love those unseasonable warm snaps, but they do come with a price, when the other shoe drops on the weather. We have the same problem here. Crossing my fingers that you stay frost free and have a wonderful fruit harvest. Glad you’re back on track and finding it easier. I remember reading in Beck that the wagon doesn’t leave when you fall off; it stops until you get back on (I’m paraphrasing). I find that comforting.

Gardenerjoy, congrats on 8.5 lbs down this spring and a 7lb loss for April. You broke through that plateau with a vengeance! Here’s to a successful new month.

AnneWonders 05-01-2010 09:38 PM

Coaches/Buddies I was on business travel for about a week. I must say I did outstanding on food. Stopped at full every time, and made reasonable if not puritanical choices. Got in two workouts, but was shooting for three. But more drinking than normal.

A good trip. Getting back into normal today with major kid tantrums, and starting off with a run tomorrow.

Anne

onebyone 05-01-2010 10:53 PM

saturday night
 
Hi Coaches

In my avoidance of all aspects of making things (ie.procrastination) I got a lot of other needed things done today. The annual art in the park event that my friend and I run is now well underway. We juried the applicants, I sent welcome accpetance letters to applicants, I contacted two people to do with the show that I needed to do for a while now. I did bank deposits, made dinner from scratch (credit) and then let Kitty X out and saw she wanted to escape to the neighbour's yard. I blocked the area under the fence she was using ad that made her perturbed. I figured since I hadn't cleaned my backyard, esp. the patio stone area that that was what made next door so appealing, so I cleaned the backyard. Credit spontaneous exercise. I alos cleaned off the coffee table and found my Volumetrics book. I'm taking that to bed for some reading. I recall considering that as a foodplan and I am going to take another look at it. In the end I did get some work done towards my art shows a week from today. I have been experimenting with new surface treatments of my plastic material and it's very intriguing what I am coming up with. But gee, am I working slow. I think the way I work has changed. I was a real binge worker, doing very little then working like a maniac until exhausted. Seems I am not too interested in that anymore. I think I need to adjust myself to my new desires. The binge working just isn't gonna cut for me anymore. Hopefully this is connected to the food and eating issues I have had as well. I think it is true though. even when I am off plan it is rare for me to really binge eat. I may choose food that is less than great or off plan but I don't really pig out all that often. Credit for this.

Have to get to bed.

It's May already. Can you believe it? Wow.

Have a good restful evening coaches.

CeeJay 05-01-2010 11:18 PM

Hello everyone!!!

Beverlyjoy- thanks for the reminder that it is not the time line, it is the living healthy with food. My frustratingly slow weight loss was bugging me today. Good for you for devoting 90 minutes to work on Beck stuff. I really need to do that too. I need to put some time into rereading the books and doing some quiet thinking.

Shepherdess-good for you for trying to distract yourself from pre- dinner nibbling. Hope the branding went well for you. Seems like a huge job. I am amazed you have been able to continue to think about your eating and continue to exercise and post here.

gardenerjoy-interested to see your new food plan if you want to share it. I also have tiny pink one pound dumbbells. I started doing my weight workouts with these. Thought it was best as I have had tendinitis in both arms before and have very sore shoulders a lot of the time. I am now using the purple 3 pounders and one day plan to be up to the blue 5 pounders. Glad you were able to get back to your strength training. Yay for 7 pounds gone in April!

MerinoGirl-I weigh every day and the scale fluctuates all over the place. I can be up 3 pounds or down 3 pounds for nothing. It could be fluctuation or it could be the scale is wonky. I am only concerning myself with the trend.

BillBlueEyes-big credit for the use of resistance muscle. And especially for eating the insides and not the crust.

seadwaters-waving hello! Yay for resisting cake when you were out for coffee. And for making a list and sticking with it.

onebyone-like the sound of moving forward.

Lexxiss-boo for snowstorms at the end of April. Yay for eating well when you had company.

maryblu-we are getting cooler weather and like you, it is the earliest we have ever had leaves out on the trees. It finally rained here also so am much less worried about fires. Glad you are feeling that you are back on track.

wndranne-congratulations of doing outstandingly well on food on your week travelling. Really hard to do. Good for you.

For me, glad it is a brand new month. Overall last month I gained 3 pounds (or stayed the same, depending if it is scale fluctuation). Kind of a downer. I know why-- it is because I ate on plan only about half the days. On the other days, I was not being careful. I have not been binging so that is good. Mostly I am eating very healthy. Exercise is very regular. So all in all, I am going to tell myself it is all OK. I am learning things. I have not quit. I post here pretty faithfully. I continue to weigh myself daily. I continue to read the cards pretty much daily. I mostly try to use my Beck skills.

Credit today for:

weighing in
eating on plan
resisting food at many points during the day
reading advantage and response cards
checking in with my coaches

Take care
:grouphug:

BillBlueEyes 05-02-2010 06:21 AM

Sunday - The Warblers are here!
 
Diet Coaches/Buddies - A glorious day! Started early chasing the newly arrived Warblers. Saw a good bunch, including a Black-throated Blue Warbler. It doesn't take much to make a birder happy, LOL. Birding is a terrific way to be outdoors enjoying the sunshine and environment while getting, unfortunately, almost no exercise. The best views come from standing quietly. But, after lunch I took a walk to Trader Joe's, CREDIT moi, to get some California Golden Raisins. When I need a walk, I can always conjure up some need to justify a walk to Trader Joe's.

And finished some household chores, including changing a passage way door knob set that had broken; CREDIT moi. Now that's not a big job, but it's easy to put off. It also reminds me that I can't replace just the small broken piece - it only comes in the full dual door-knobs set - grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.


maryblu - LOL at your two "raspberry stealin' dawgs" - perhaps someday you'll make a youtube video of those rascals. My own guess is that "this yo-yo thang" always remains, the cycle just gets shorter, until we yo-yo within a few days and just look like we're constant. But,that's just my guess - check with me in about 20 years and I'll let you know.

onebyone - Yay for procrastination driven productivity - whatever works. Interesting observation about binge working - it'd be great to think that getting to eating on a regular even level would leak into all other aspects of our lives. Good luck re-delving into Volumetrics; I do like the notions in that book and think it's part of what drove me toward the monster raw salad that I do with my lunches at work.

Anne (wndranne) - Kudos for 'outstanding on food" for a whole week of business travel - I'm really impressed since I can quickly make up several reasons that I deserve food because of the deprivations of travel. Ouch for kids who need a little acting out to punish mom for abandoning them - in that regard, they're just like cats, LOL.

Beverlyjoy - hmmmmm... seems like your 3 year old friend Adam was "stotting" in the terminology of Shepherdess, LOL. Congrats for one more "healthy day." Yay for having so much business in your seven bird houses. And thanks for the acknowledgment.

CeeJay - Such clear perspective on your previous month without using the various "Thinking Errors" of the all-or-nothing type that Beck discusses in day 26. So useful to give yourself credit for leveling out your eating even if it's not yet at the 100% that you'd like. Kudos for clarity.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Congrats on the Spring loss down to your new low. And Yay for confidence and gratitude.

Shepherdess - Have a joyful Sunday with 30 cowboy guests with their boots on your floors. Good luck avoiding the platters of desserts and goodies while watching hungry men devour them all. By the by, does Wyoming have cowgirls?

Cheryl (Seadwaters) - Yep, Kudos for pulling off your organized assault on the supermarket. Even Generals have to learn to plan an attack, LOL. Re sardines: I eat them on Romaine Lettuce leaves, sparing myself the need to pack crackers - the carrier of choice. As kids, we'd mix them up with mayonnaise, mustard, and relish - just like canned tuna - and spread that on bread. I recall using about as much mayonnaise as sardines ... <shudder>.

Debbie (Lexxiss) - Yay for the noble task of supporting your library book sale (while serving your own insatiable desire for more books, I'd guess, LOL). Neat calculation that you easily reach half the days of the year with a reason to eat off-plan.

Readers -
Quote:

day 26
Common Thinking Errors

There are nine common thinking mistakes people make when dieting:

. . .
Thinking Mistake #3: Overly Positive Fortune Telling
You predict the future too positively, without considering other possible problems.
Examples:
  • I'll be able to eat just a little bit of this food I crave, feel satisfied, and stop.
  • It's okay if I just estimate the amount of food I'm supposed to have instead of measuring it. I'll still lose weight.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 195.

Beverlyjoy 05-02-2010 07:02 AM

Hi becksters....buddies....coaches.....

Yesterday was a healthy day - I am always grateful for that and the willingness to keep trying. I think, for me, willingness is key.

Every day for the last 12 years I've gotten up and written down five things for which I am grateful. Yesterday, I was kind of having a 'pity party'. I was feeling frustrated with my pieces and parts, limited mobilty, medication, blah blah blah. I didn't think I could think of any gratitudes. But, of course, I could. So once again I am reminded that, no matter what, there are always things for which I be grateful. It's a good daily task. It always puts things in perspective. I recommend it.

While in the kitchen - I just opened the fridge - thinking 'what can I eat' - Then I realized - I don't 'graze' any more. (or am working on that) I used a resistance technique, closed the fridge door, walked away, smiled and gave myself credit.

Today DH and I are going to the grocery...I will use the electric scooter. It's kind of humbling. But - of course, better than not getting out doing what needs to be done. Mom is coming over for a cookout tonight.

yesteray:
made a plan, wrote down what I eat, kept track of calories, stayed in healthy range, measured food
eated seated, no seconds - all of the time
fork down - some times (I really need to work on this)
read rc/arc
looked at beck book
used resistance techniques
gave myself credit
tasted food - some of the time
slow mindful eating - some of the time

no exercise/spontaneous exercise

billbe = so glad you saw the birdies! A good walk to Trader Joe's, too. I wish ours wasn't quite so far away. Love that store. Credit - working on those 'chores'.

cee-jay - no binging is a huge credit. Seems like you've taken many of the beck tasks to heart. Keep 'practicing' all the stuff you know works and aim to do what you add to it. That's all any of us can do.

onebyone - 'not pigging out' is a HUGE credit!

wndranne - so, so glad to hear your trip went well. You said - I must say I did outstanding on food. Stopped at full every time, and made reasonable if not puritanical choices. Got in two workouts, but was shooting for three Major credit!

shepardess - glad you were able to avoid one of your eating gatherings. I can see how branding would be a major happening. I don't suppose the cowboys would want coffee and veggies and healthy dip half way through. LOL Hope all goes well today.

maryblu - we watched the Derby too - always fun. So much hype!!!! You said - What makes it easier for me now is that the *pay-off is so*much* bigger relative to the time/effort it takes. It is the difference between feeling *fat and being exactly where I want to be, exactly where I look and feel best. It is a big, big pay-off and worth the effort. That says SO much - it's a real way of living with food and realizing why.

gardenerjoy - I am jumping for joy over learning of your wonderful weightloss!! I am so glad your efforts are being rewarded at the scale as well as in your day to day living.

lexxiss - thanks so much for sharing your weekend response card - it's so basic, but - such a necessary concept to tatoo to our brains. I don't have the green book...just the pink book.

I hope I got to everyone. Shout out to anyone stopping by.

Shepherdess 05-02-2010 09:09 AM

Just a quick check-in before my busy day begins. Had a pretty good food-day yesterday. There was a decadent dessert that probably didn’t need to happen, but it was only one. It would have been more than that in the past, so I still consider it a success. I didn’t do any formal exercise, but it was an active day So I feel good about that. I’m looking at a tough day today and I have a general plan in place. There will likely be a number of challenges that come up that I never even thought of, so wish me luck. I am looking forward to this afternoon when everyone leaves and I will hopefully get a nap.

Thanks for all your supportive thoughts. I will catch up later.

hikergirl 05-02-2010 09:33 AM

Hi. Just back from vacation. I spent 6 days hiking and cycling (and eating) and the scale shows that I am the highest that I have been in a year or two. You would think that I would be dehydrated(?).

Anyways. I am here. I have to catch up on stuff (including Beck, and this message board). I will do so in a few days.

Weight 160.8

gardenerjoy 05-02-2010 10:37 AM

Since I'm losing weight, I've decided my exercise goal of 1800 minutes in April (which I didn't meet) was more than I needed, anyway. So, I'm scaling back to see if 1400 minutes a month will get the job done. I'm going to go for more intensity, fewer minutes.

WI: -0.35kg (new low), Exercise: +40 40/1400 minutes for May, Food: 90%op, Read my Advantages and Responses: yes

Shepherdess: hope your busy weekend is going well!

onebyone: cool insights about how your work and how that's changing

CeeJay: I'll post my food plan in the recipes thread later today -- thanks for asking!

BillBlueEyes: yay for warblers!

Beverlyjoy: big credit for "I don't 'graze' any more"

hikergirl: welcome home!

Hello to wndranne, maryblu, seadwaters, ChinaMaine, bennyhannahmama, Lexxiss, and everyone else!

Lexxiss 05-02-2010 11:04 AM

Hi Everyone!

I've been catching up at home this AM.
-read from the book
-read my response cards
-read my reasons to lose weight
-planning my meals for the week
-had spontaneous exercise
-will eat slowly, mindfully, while sitting
*credit for all*

Weekends are harder for me. I WILL use my response cards BEFORE engaging in unplanned eating today.

hikergirl, wndranne :wave: Glad you are both back home safe!
:wave: everyone else! I will catch up later.

bennyhannahmama 05-02-2010 09:23 PM

Sunday May 2nd
 
Buddies/Coaches:
Hello there-- I miss you guys! Not sure when it all went to #$%*, but it has :( I'm pretty sure it's absolutely no coincidence that I stopped checking in here. Thanks Joy (gardnerjoy) for checking on me and I'm sorry I haven't responded.
I had a garage sale on Friday and Saturday and preparing for that was stressful. It went very well, but of course I still have more work to do now that it's over.
I kind of feel like I've lost all my Beck skills over the past couple of week, which quite frankly sucks! Oh and on top of that, I've been smoking over the weekend :(
Right after typing that, I had my last cigarette and then threw the rest of the pack out. That helped me feel more in control. The next couple of days will be hard, but I do NOT want to smoke anymore. The only reason I even started this weekend was because Jim (my boyfriend) started again. Hopefully he'll quit soon, but I'm not going to wait for him.

I'm tired and feeling pretty overwhelmed. So, I'm going to set some goals for myself for tomorrow.

#1 NO smoking!
#2 Check in here

I think that's a good place to start. I'd like to accomplish more than the above (thinking about waking up early to do a workout on the elliptical in the basement), but if that's all I do, then I will be satisfied.

onebyone 05-02-2010 09:36 PM

Sunday & where does the time go?
 
Argh! Just lost my post...

okay had 3 meals, no snacks. credit.
Did have seconds of plain rice at dinner.
Worked hard all day on art stuff-managed to make some progress. credit.
Kitty X continues to linger but now she's having a tough time drinking water. This is really not good. She is still enjoying "the blue room" aka outside so ...

bennyhannamama I see we cross-posted so hello. I just went through the garage sale stress too and yep, my junk room is really torn apart but I can still see the space I made so that makes me feel better about it. Sorry about the smoking. I was a 2pack a day smoker and quit at age 18 (I loved everything about smoking but one day woke up feeling like crap so I stopped cold turkey. I do believe you get one chance at this cold turkey being easy business and if you pick it back up again it is never so easy again. Just my pet theory... I digress...) and then, every 7 years or so, I get wicked urges to smoke. I went through that a few months ago actually, who knows what triggers it? For me though my DH would surely move out if I started. Big credit for throwing them away tonight. Smoking and following a program to bring you to good health just really don't jive. Very glad you posted tonight. :hug:

Lexxiss Kudos for your credits. I agree, weekends are harder. I especially have a tough time with Friday night. More Beck needed for me too.

gardenerjoy I'm curious about your exercise minutes target. Do you workout at regular times for x minutes to get your goal number? Or is it more some weeks, less others? How do you view exercise for yourself and your weightloss plan/life? Did you always exercise? You seem so very consistent! Kudos for this!

hikergirl If you were eating out while away that weight is probably sodium. It's in everything. AND if you are dehydrated, your body is hanging onto your water and probably pushing your weight up. Could be a double whammy. Nice to have you back.

Shepherdess Is lambing season officially over then? Do you have twice as many sheep now with the newborns? How long do sheep stay with you?

Beverlyjoy I like this little bit. Reads like a poem to me:
Quote:

eated seated,
no seconds -
all of the time
See?
Good job on your loads of credits.

BillBlueEyes How big is a warbler? Bagel size? Muffin sized? 6" sub sized? I thought comparing it to a food thing would make it easy to picture but then the sizes of every food thing have metastasized in the past decade so... are they bigger or smaller than the common robin? Kudos for your walk. Oh and do they actually warble?

CeeJay Sorry for the slow weightloss. I keep doing myself in when I get on a roll. I am yo-yoing between 272-262. Have been doing that for quite some time now. Makes me doubt my resolve. Oh well :devil: thought be off with you! Ceejay you only stop making progress when you stop what you are doing. Hang in there. It's happening. Believe it.

wndranne Nice to see you around here! Hope you got your run in. It was like summer here, with the humidity too, (weird weird weird) and there were so many runners everywhere in my fair town. Everyone looked pleased but a bit shell-shocked by the onset of the dog days of summer on May 2nd.
Kudos for having a great trip food-wise. Awesome.

:wave: seadwaters, ChinaMaine, maryblu, MerinoGirl, and everyone one else lurking and reading.

BillBlueEyes 05-03-2010 05:08 AM

Monday
 
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Another glorious weather day. Took a nice walk, CREDIT moi, through a park where the kids were running about like summer. Sadly, DW announced that there would be no more roasted Butternut Squash for the season because it was too hot to keep the oven on for that long. Braced up a section of fence that's in a back corner of the yard and should be replaced, but it works to drive a long metal stake in the ground and screw the fence post to it. CREDIT moi for working so hard driving the stakes that I worked up a sweat.

While eating dinner on the patio, we saw the Chimney Swifts darting above; welcome back little guys!


onebyone - Continuing to send supportive thoughts to you and Kitty X; know it's a difficult time.

A typical warbler is about 5 inches beak to tip of tail, as compared to a House Sparrow which is about 6 inches. We also call the House Sparrow the English Sparrow around here due to our tendency to name our invasive species after some place else to shift the blame, LOL.


Susan (hikergirl) - Welcome back from six days of exercise. Kinda hard to believe that you can gain weight cycling and hiking; hope a bunch of it is water and some of it is new muscle.

Kim (bennyhannamama) - Yay for a garage sale for clearing out one's clutter. That's a good emotional achievement to stand on to get back on track with your eating plan. Sending you good vibes for that as well as good vibes to stick with your plan to drop the smokes.

Beverlyjoy - Kudos for "willingness to keep trying" - that's such a good reminder to me to avoid the winning/losing kind of thinking. Your five things to be grateful for is one beautiful CBT strategy for life; hats off to you.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - New low. New low. New low. New low. - I've noticed a trend, LOL. Good move rethinking your monthly exercise goal.

Shepherdess - Hope you (and your floors) survived your day.

Debbie (Lexxiss) - Yep, weekends can be difficult when the mind relaxes and the undisciplined thoughts of eating just appear like weeds.

Readers -
Quote:

day 26
Common Thinking Errors

There are nine common thinking mistakes people make when dieting:

. . .
Thinking Mistake #4: Emotional Reasoning
You think your ideas must be true even though objective evidence says not.
Examples:
  • Since I feel like a failure for having strayed, I really must be a failure.
  • I feel like I just have to have something sweet right now.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 196.

Beverlyjoy 05-03-2010 07:00 AM

Hi Becksters.....

Happy Monday! My Sunday was good/healthy - I am always grateful for a sane healthy day with food.

Dh and I went to the grocery and I got lots of fruit and veggies - so I am set for the week. Last night DH wanted pizza for dinner - he got his pizza and I ate my planned dinner (used reistance tech.) - credit.

I was able to take only arthritis strength tylenol for my foot/ankle pain - I am really grateful for that. I am going to be very careful and rest my foot/ankle this week so I can do my programs next week. At least that's the plan. Little by little am making progress.

I took lexxiss's lead and made a seperate response card for weekend planning and eating. Thanks so much for the idea.

planned food, wrote down food eaten, measure food - all the time
stayed in calorie range
eat seated, no seconds - all the time
taste the food - some of the time
feel fullness in my tummy - not much
slow mindful eating - sometimes
remember why - yes
give myself credit when I do healthy things - yes
leave a small bite of food - yes
lots of water - yes

gentle stretching, upper body weights - no
read arc/rc - just a few
beck book - no

hikergirl - glad you are home safe - credit for getting on the scale - carry on.

shepardess - credit for taking time to check in - good to have a plan for a busy, busy day. Ya know...sometimes as little extra something is better than alot of extra something.

gardenerjoy - sounds like a good idea - switching up your exercise. You said "since I am losing weight..."- that sure is a nice thing to read!

billbe - walking and working (causing a sweat!) - yes, credit. Sorry about bye bye to the squash. When DH and I went to Krogers (grocery) yesterday a cedar waxwing flew out of the tree in front. It's only the second time I've ever seen one. Go figure...at the grocery store in the suburbs.

lexxiss - thanks for the 'weekend response card' idea - I made one. You had many credits of late - carry on!

onebyone - I hate when I lose a post!! That happened to me often - so I've gotten to save, copy and post as I go along - so I don't lose it. Kudo's for having 3 meals and a snack. I am sending a few under the chin scratches to Kittyx - hope things improve. I love how you made some of my credits into a poem!

kim - glad you checked in- glad the garage sale is over (they are so much work) You hold on tight the best you can to things that will help get you through no cigs...we are here for you.


Have a GREAT day, folks. Shout out to anyone stopping by. Be KIND to yourself.

GosfordGirl 05-03-2010 07:17 AM

Monday Night
 
Hi Coaches
A quick check in - I really should do this in the morning as way too tired at night. I am disgruntled because my weight did not drop any further than currently in my profile and ticker - in fact it is about + 0.4lb! I have been within plan except for one or two mishaps.

I am slipping with logging food immediately after I eat so I need to try to do that. With the cooking I have been doing (stews and such) it is really hard to estimate their value and short of putting in all the ingredients and then doing it on a per serve basis etc etc. Anyway I will work it out I guess

Cheers to all and have a good Monday

Cheryl

Shepherdess 05-03-2010 08:11 AM

I made a plan pre-branding and stuck to it. I had a muffin at coffee break, skipping the coffee cake, snicker doodles and cinnamon rolls. At lunch, I stuck to the salads and had only a small portion of the devilish potatoes au gratin. The problems came when everyone was left. I just started munching on the dessert trays that were left here. I tried giving as much away as I could, but there’s still quite a bit left. I remember Beck saying something about being prepared for after the event, which I wasn’t. I think I had been so vigilant and then thought I could just relax and let once it was over. Oh well, better luck next year. I have a ton of leftovers that I don’t need. I will have dh go through everything and throw away what he’s not going to eat, since I have an aversion to throwing away food.

Wndranne, kudos for making outstanding food choices on a business trip! It’s tough to get any workouts in at all while traveling, so great job on 2 out of 3. Good luck with the kid tantrums. I guess it’s their way of saying they missed mom.

Onebyone, your thoughts on the connections between binge working and eating are interesting. I think one of the key aspects of Beck is consistency and I hope that spills over into other areas of my life as well. Sorry about Kitty X, but it’s good that you are appreciating this time with her.

CeeJay, yay for a new month! A scale that isn’t moving is a downer, but you have a great attitude about it. You are learning so much and that is going to help you in the long run.

BillBE, yay for the glorious days of spring to make you want to get out doors and enjoy the fresh air. Sorry about the Butternut squash, but at least it gives you a reason to look forward to the cold months.

And yes, Wyoming has cowgirls. They’re the U of WY women’s sports teams, LOL. I always call our work crew “cowboys” because there is often such a macho attitude, but there are always women working the corrals doing all the jobs the men do. A foreman of another ranch always brings his daughter out, who is now 12 or 13 and she ropes and rides. And we get plenty of cowboys out there who wear the hat but don’t know what they’re doing.

Beverlyjoy, I love your practice of finding things you are grateful for. I can so often get bogged down in the negative and take for-granted all of those things that are gifts in my life.

Hikegirl, don’t get too hung up on the number on the scale post-vacation. There are so many factors that could be affecting it. Give it a few days and if it still is high, then it’s just telling you something needs to change. Sounds like you had a great and active trip!

Gardenerjoy, your exercise plan is a good one. If you are upping the intensity, than scaling back the total time will prevent injury. Great job making an informed decision.

Lexxiss, kudos for your determination to break old patterns! Hope you are all caught up from your week of house guests, but it looks like you are doing great on plan.

Bennyhannamamma, kudos for deciding to quit smoking and not waiting for Jim. Best of luck. Looks like you have set some good goals and are doing a great job taking reasonable steps. If you get in your elliptical, it will just be a bonus.

Seadwaters, sorry for the disappointing weigh-in, but my scale can certainly be fickle at times. If you stick with it, it will drop again. I’m sure there are lots of web sites that track calories from recipes. I use: http://caloriecount.about.com/cc/recipe_analysis.php. You plug in your recipe and the number of servings and it gives you all the nutrition info.

CeeJay 05-03-2010 08:13 AM

Good morning!!

Just a quick check in. Had a good food day yesterday but did not exercise due to sore foot. I am headed to the city for an overnight. I am pretty focused after last month's lack of overall progress so have a plan and am going to stick to it.

Last week I agreed to assume my manager's job for the next year or so while he is on sick leave. Not exactly sure when it will start as it begins when he has surgery and he does not have a date yet. I am telling my staff today which will be hard for all of us. The good news is I am not really going anywhere so I can help out. And I will have my job, which I love, back when this is over. One of my staff will fill in for me. I have the highest functioning, most cohesive team in our organization and we worked very hard to get there, so am a little worried about this change.

I am keenly aware that in the past changes (and yes, stress) like this has been enough for me to completly derail from any healthy things I am doing. I am going to have to be really, really careful that this does not happen. I am determined to keep on track and especially not to slip into a big round of working too many hours. I know that if I work hours like a "normal" person I can fit in all my wellness activities, if I work too many hours things start to crumble.

Thanks for listening and for your daily support.

Hope everyone has a great day.
:grouphug:

hikergirl 05-03-2010 10:23 AM

Hi there. Still in catch up mode. Great to be back to this thread.

159.1
I did get moving, I did read advantage cards, I did have a food plan and I did not overeat compulsively. I did visit this site.

Everyone, you are an inspiration.
Susan

gardenerjoy 05-03-2010 11:04 AM

My brother took us out for Japanese food last night. I think I did okay, but I skipped my weigh-in rather than see a sodium-induced uptic.

WI: NAkg, Exercise: +35 75/1400 minutes for May, Food: 70%op, Read my Advantages and Responses: yes

CeeJay: As I was writing out my current food plan (in our recipes thread), I remembered the book The Incredible Shrinking Critic by Jami Bernard. At one point in the book, she gives up sweets entirely, and reflects that at the beginning of the journey, she would have never imagined that she would do that. But by the time she did, it wasn't that big of a deal. I love bread and my current food plan has less of it than I thought I could tolerate. But having made lots of other changes, that one has come pretty easily after all. So, I recommend making gradual changes that you can right now and keeping an open mind to further ones later on.

Lexxiss: sounds like a great list of goals and a good plan -- hope it went well!

bennyhannahmama: good to see you! Great goals to get things going!

onebyone: one of the things I like about a goal of minutes per month is that I can be pretty inconsistent about things and still pull it off. I keep in mind how many minutes a day (45 this month), so I know roughly what I need to do, and I mean to exercise every afternoon. But if things don't happen that way, there's time to make it all work out before the end of the month. I've always walked, even at my highest weight. These days, I'm doing more videos because the intensity of the cardio is higher and it gets me to do more stretching and strength training. Every time that I've tried strength training in the past, I injured myself. So, I'm doing it now with tiny weights and calisthenics and I'm amazed at the difference I can see and feel. For me, the biggest motivators for exercise, though, are stress relief and as an effective treatment for insomnia (that's why I exercise in the late afternoon).

BillBlueEyes: we like squash roasted on the grill -- especially the Delicata that we get in September from our CSA box. I slice it into arches, marinate it in oil and maple syrup and DH grills it. Yum!

Beverlyjoy: Huge credit for staying on plan while DH had pizza! That's a terrific accomplishment!

seadwaters: I am also frustrated by the difficulty of adding home cooked food into a system that will give me exact calories. What ultimately worked better for me was to cut back a serving or two of bread a day and to really measure instead of guestimate the most calorically dense things I eat like nuts. But I also recommend being patient and not changing stuff in response to a few days' scale readings.

Shepherdess: good self awareness there -- I'm sure you'll do better next year. Great job getting DH to do the throwing way of exccess food.

CeeJay: (again) congrats on the temporary promotion! Sounds like you are valued at work. The last time I took a new job, I was in a mode of "Okay, how can I do this in the healthiest way possible?" And I was able to establish a habit of bringing my lunch and walking around campus that really helped. Maybe you can find a way to make this a really positive change.

hikergirl: great to have you back!

MerinoGirl 05-03-2010 12:53 PM

Hello Beck Friends,

I need to be better at being upfront with my husband about all of my dieting activities. He's a thin guy who works at keeping his figure by basically starving himself most of the day and then eating a big dinner. While I think this is very unhealthy, he can't be convinced otherwise and points to his 30" waist as evidence.

He also thinks that people who need to lose weight essentially have a will power problem. So, you would think that someone who feels this way would be very supportive of support groups, such as this forum, or Weight Watchers, etc. But, no, actually, he doesn't even think this should be necessary. He looks down on weight loss support activities.

So, I didn't check the site this weekend, didn't read or post, all because I wasn't ready to defend myself on this point yet. <sigh> Yes, it was cowardice. So, my goal is to confess all this week and prepare him for the fact that I have some new things that will be part of my weekends going forward. I kind of sorted of started the forward momentum on this when he caught me reading Beck. I just couldn't seal the deal and give him all the news because I had enough of the "it's just a question of willpower" speech that came from the sight of me reading the pink book.

And yet, he says that he's supportive of my efforts to lose weight! I guess that's true if you define support narrowly enough.

:-)

I started reading through the posts here and taking notes, but will have to reply more later. Off now to get my dad to a doctor appointment, with many logistics involved.

Happy May to all.

bennyhannahmama 05-03-2010 01:02 PM

Monday May 3rd
 
Coaches/Buddies:
I can't believe how much better I felt last night after checking in here and throwing out the cigarettes. I also sent Jim a text letting him know that I threw out the cigarettes and I'm done. This way, when I see him tonight, he'll know not to let me have any of his. He apologized for making it harder on me (by starting to smoke again) and I told him I would let it go since he makes my life easier in so many other ways :cloud9:

This morning had potential to be disastrous since I slept through both alarms and woke up an hour late :stress: Somehow, I managed to get myself and the kids out of the house on time :carrot:

So far today I have:

not smoked :broc:
weighed myself :broc:
read my advantages :broc:
gave myself credit :broc:
eaten slowly and mindfully :broc:
checked in here :broc:
left over some food :broc:
tracked my eating :broc:

Today I ate my lunch at my desk while catching up on posts here and made a very calculated effort to eat slowly and mindfully. I realized that just making sure I put my fork down between bites isn't always enough to make myself eat mindfully. I decided that I need to make sure that I'm looking at my fork while I gathering my next bite and be aware of what's on my fork. This helps keep me from shoveling it into my mouth. This caused me to eat my lunch very slowly and I found that I was full before I came to the end of my food! This hardly ever happens (especially since it was a frozen, pre-portioned meal.) When I recognized the fullness, I thought about stopping before eating the full meal. This made me a bit anxious and my saboteur came up with all sorts of excuses as to why this was not a good idea (#1 I skipped morning snack, so surely I need to eat every piece of my lunch. #2 This is my first day back on track with food and I will get very hungry if I don't eat everything. #3 Since I'm going to count the full meal, I might as well allow myself to have all the calories. #4 I might not get an opportunity to eat again for many hours). Well, I decided to stop thinking and just throw the food out-- there were a couple of pieces of pasta a couple of peas left. It was hard, but I did it and it felt great!

Maryblu:
It's good to hear from you. I appreciate your insights and I think BillBlueEyes speculation about yo-yoing is probably about right. I know what you mean about that feeling of being comfortable with yourself, etc. I just wish I could bottle that feeling or remember it in the face of exhaustion, stress, temptation, etc.

gardnerjoy:
I can't begin to express how happy I am for you that your hard work is paying off! You are also very inspiring. Hopefully as I get myself back on track we can encourage each other to keep working in the book. Thanks again for continuing to check on me and I'm sorry that I haven't been able to support you these past couple of weeks.

Lexxis:
How'd it go? Did you remember to read your Response Cards before any unplanned eating? I don't know if I can ever remember a time that I've done that :( Something I definitely need to work on! Oh and thanks for the quotes re: weekends. Definitely another thing I really need to work on.


Onebyone:
Thanks for your supportive and kind words re: quitting smoking. I think one of the problems I have with quitting so many times is that I tend to think, I've done it before, I'll be able to do it again. I need to stop that thought process though!

seadwaters:
I struggle immensely with planning and shopping-- kudos to you!

hikergirl:
I'm getting myself back on track too. I hope you enjoyed your vacation and I look forward to seeing more of your posts.


That's all I have time for right now. :wave: shepherdess, wndranne, beverlyjoy and anyone else I missed

nathy 05-03-2010 04:02 PM

Hi my Buddies,

I have been in harmony with my food for already 5 days. I planned every meal, also a special occasion - party with our neighbours - something like BBQ - evening till night in the garden, a lot of homemade food.Every family prepared cake or pie and another delicious food. I promissed myself to eat only 1 small piece of each meal but I had only 3 small pieces of cake (3x3 cm = 1,2x1,2 inch -funny to measure in inch.) and 1/2 of sausage. And planned it as a dinner.Even when I was back at home in my bed, my stomach was rumbling I was happy that I was on plan.
Everyday I read Beck books, exercise and I feel for the first time that I live in symbiosis with food. Thanks God for every next OP day. The same I wish to ALL of you, my Beck´s friends.

bennyhannahmama 05-03-2010 09:25 PM

Monday May 3rd-- evening
 
Coaches/Buddies:
This afternoon I went to drop a note off on a co-workers desk and she had an open can of almonds on her desk-- I grabbed one :o After I had already put it in my mouth, I realized the error of my ways! I also ate my afternoon snack and dinner a little too quickly. However, I did leave over a piece of pizza crust from dinner :broc: I never leave over any food, so now that's twice in one day and I haven't even gotten to that day in the book :D

I have a feeling that by the time the day is done I will have consumed more calories than I've burned, but I'm okay with that.

I have succeeded in meeting my goals for today-- no smoking and checking in here. Yippee!

BillBlueEyes:
It's got to feel good getting a mini workout in while also doing some fixing up in the yard-- sounds like some good multitasking to me.

Beverlyjoy:
Kudos to you for using your resistance technique against the pizza-- I'm impressed and inspired.

seadwaters:
Sorry the scale didn't reflect your hard work. I'm sending you some patience.

Shepherdess:
Kudos to you for doing well during the actual gathering and I feel your pain for after the gathering-- I've been there. I also have a strong aversion to throwing away food and have found something that helps at times. I try to remember that the food is going to be gone whether I throw it down the drain or into my body-- throwing it into my body is no different except that it makes me feel like $%&^.

CeeJay:
Kudos to you for looking ahead at potential problems. I think making sure to check in here (ahem, unlike myself the past week or so) can really help keep you on track. Good luck with the changes (and stress) at work.

hikergirl:
For all your great work: :broc: :broc: :broc:

MerinoGirl:
I've been in your position with spouse/significant other that doesn't get the whole losing weight thing. I feel like there's so much more I can say about your post, yet right now I feel at a loss. Keep coming here for support and I'm sure you'll get good suggestions for how to explain things to your DH. BTW, not sure where in Northern NJ you are, but I grew up in Rockland County, NY :)

nathy:
Sounds like you've had several great days-- congratulations!

MerinoGirl 05-03-2010 10:33 PM

Dear Beck Friends,

OK, I've not taken the plunge yet and had The Conversation, but I will this week. Promise.

Credit for eating dinner mindfully, which made me feel full and stop eating more than I would have. Also, credit for not eating standing up, one of my major bad habits, despite the temptation to snack when impatient before dinner. Overall, not a bad day.

BillBE: One day my husband and I went to a local gourmet food store and purchased 6 different varieties of canned sardines. They came from everywhere - Turkey, Russia, even Finland, I think. Only one was canned in oil, and that was the only one that wasn't totally disgusting. At the end of the experiment, not only did we conclude that the only one worth while was the one canned in oil, we also decided that the best was the one found at out local ShopRite - canned in oil. It's just a sad fact of sardine life.

Shepherdess - Thanks for the weigh-in advice. I have Beck's green book in the house somewhere. Maybe by the time I finish the pink book I will have found it.

Seadwaters - You've got some great yarn down under, and some good designers. I love Jo Sharp and have several of her books of knitting patterns. I was not tuned into this when I honeymooned in Australia 9 years ago, or there would have been some sheep farms factored in (but was wonderful even without).

Beverlyjoy - Thanks for the encouragement vis-a-vis the scales. In some ways, it is harder for me to cut back on daily weigh-ins than to cut back on food.

Gardnerjoy - Happy May Day, and congratulations on the weight loss.


CeeJay - Thank you, thank you, thank you! Whenever I don't like what I see on the scale, I'll just tell it that it's a wonky scale and threaten to replace it!

Bennyhannahmama - Yes, it's tricky. The individual involved does think he's being supportive, but there's talking the talk and walking the walk. I also occasionally get lectured for "not eating enough". But, while the support could be better, that really isn't my primary problem. My primary problem are all the sabotagin behaviors that Dr. Beck lays out in her book (have only read part of the pink one so far). In fact, I think I need to make a Spouse Response Card! Will start on that one tomorrow, in the solitude of my commute from Essex County, NJ. Montclair NJ is my home for the past 15 years, but I was born in Queens and went to high school on Long Island.

To quote my favorite comic book heroine, Agatha Heterodyne (a.k.a. Girl Genius [free on-line comic w/new pages every Monday, Wednesday & Friday]): "One problem at a time. If we solved everything at once, we'd be out of work."

AnneWonders 05-03-2010 10:44 PM

I ran this morning. Seems like forever since I managed it. I love running. Why do I forget this?

Eating was OK today.

Sorry for the short posts lately. I'm just trying to be present and hopefully it will mature into a real level of participation again.

Anne

BillBlueEyes 05-04-2010 05:50 AM

Tuesday
 
Diet Coaches/Buddies - At a working meeting with shared snacks, I ate more sanely than I have in the past; CREDIT moi. I made sure that there was a demarcation between the eating time and the working time. It's so much easier to stick to my plan at home where food is served, consumed, cleaned up, and left behind in the kitchen while life moves on.

While I was doing my d*rn lunges at the gym (CREDIT moi) another guy was doing some also - with slow, perfect form. So, I let that influence me to go slower and work on my form. It was good to see that I can be influenced even if the person doesn't wear clothes like Julia Roberts like the last time this happened to me. He just happened to be holding a 25# weight in each hand as he lunged - the showoff, LOL.

Boston water no longer must be boiled; Yay for water department crews who fixed the broken water main and got the system back under control.


Anne (wndranne) - Yay for running. Double Yay for loving it. Wish I could think of you running without worrying about all those cactus spines, LOL.

Susan (hikergirl) - Getting all your ducks back in a row - looking good.

Kim (bennyhannamama) - What a great story of wrestling with your thoughts to stop eating just because you were satisfied. All packed together in one paragraph would have made Dostoevsky proud, LOL. Kudos for winning.

CeeJay - Congratulations, Boss, for being recognized. Hope you get mucho recognition for stepping forth when needed.

Beverlyjoy - Yay for lots of fruits and veggies, and Yay again for lighter Tylenol. "Little by little" seems like a good plan. Neat to see an unexpected Cedar Waxwing outside the supermarket. I've seen them in the suburbs before, but always in a large flock and usually on a berry tree stripping it back to naked branches.

Joy (gardenerjoy) - Good to hear that your brother took you out to dinner - hope he's moving on his own healing. Yum for Delicata Squash.

Shepherdess - "devilish potatoes au gratin" should be banned from planet earth, LOL. Those things draw out my worst stuff about diving in and finishing up whatever size bowl they're in. Must be some old happy childhood memories or something. Interesting thought about being prepared for after the event; I hadn't thought of that before.

Cheryl (Seadwaters) - Ouch for the days that the body doesn't meet expectations. Seems to always happen for a spell, and always causes a bit of "disgruntled." Kudos for being "within plan" - that's your part.

nathy - Love the phrase, "in harmony with my food" - That's certainly the goal.

MerinoGirl - Yep, working out Spousal dynamics remains a lifetime task; especially since those of us of the male persuasion can be a bit hard-headed at times, LOL. Thanks for sharing the results of your review of six different styles of canned sardines. Not that's a thorough study.

Readers -
Quote:

day 26
Common Thinking Errors

There are nine common thinking mistakes people make when dieting:

. . .
Thinking Mistake #5: Mind Reading
You're sure of what others are thinking, even in the absence of compelling data.

Examples:
  • People will think I'm strange if I don't drink alcohol at the party.
  • She'll think I'm rude if I don't try the brownies she baked.
. . .

The Beck Diet Solution, pg 196.

GosfordGirl 05-04-2010 07:14 AM

Monday night
 
Hi Coaches
An on plan day generally but I overdid it with potato tonight - not thinking or caring. Got home late and had the basics of the meal planned but overdid it on the potato - a weakness of mine. I entered the new recipes into the database for the food I made over the weekend and which is now in the freezer so I can log each serve as I eat it (or more usefully plan to eat it). A work day today so late home and now off to bed

BeverlyJoy - Yay for a sane and healthy day and resistance techniques. Good luck with keeping off your foot so you can keep up with what you like

Shepherdess - credit for resistance in the face of daunting piles of food. Don't feel too bad about the collapse of resistance when it was over - you will be prepared next time. I use a website called calorieking and yes it does work out the calories etc in a single serve but that requires quite a bit of input - just being lazy!

CeeJay - shame about the foot - the body can get in the way of a good exercise plan. Good luck with the change in position - it will be daunting to leave your cohesive and supportive team but you seem to be laying the groundwork now for the change so it doesn't impact on your rood plan

Susan (Hikergirl) - well done checking in and having a plan. Credit

Gardenerjoy - looks like a good day for you. I agree - entering all the data is a pain. But I only tend to enter as you say the calorie dense ingredients and estimate the rest. I will try to remain calm about the scales

Merinogirl - Hope discussions and negotiations with DH aren't too difficult. We get into patterns of responding and reacting that can be hard to shift. Going in with a different attitude can be challenging. You are clear about your goals and how to get there with the Beck program - that will see you through. I am not into crafts a lot but know that there is a very active cottage industry - maybe you can hit the sheep (and Alpaca and Goat) farms when you come againe

Kim (BennyHannahMama) -Credit for slow and mindful eating and recognising (and acting on) full - fabulous! I need that patience you are sending my way

Nathy - so many credits and such resolve. You have a really well developed resistance muscle - a good role model

Anne (Wndranne) - Yay for running and an OK eating day - hope it continues that way for you

BillBlueEyes - shame we have to taking eating out into the world - so much easier with total control and nothing in the cupboards! Glad you got to "sane" when it came to snacks. LOL the lunging show-off

Beverlyjoy 05-04-2010 08:08 AM

Hi Beck folks, coaches, buddies - Today I am doing my happy dance (in my imagination - not on my foot!) because the scale smiled :) at me this morning. It was down two pounds from last week. Even more exciting...I get to change my mini goal, too - to 204. I am very grateful.

Yesterday I had a day in my calorie range...my plan did have a few twists and turns. I will carry on. I used a couple of nibbles to 'comfort' some frustrations. Did it help...of course not. Sometimes I have a hard head - but, it's a learning process. (that will last forever) Nevertheless.. I am always grateful when I stay in my calorie range.

Today is a quiet day. I will work in my office and go to the drive thru at the bank. I'll do my usual Beck tasks - slacked on that yesterday.

yesterday:
measured and logged food eaten
stayed in calorie range
lots of water
taste food - alot of the time
no seconds - all the time
fork down between bites - sometimes
eat seated - all but once
posted here

arc/rc - no
ex/spon ex - no
fullness - not much
resistance tech - a few times
made a food plan - changed it around a bit
no beck book

seadwaters - sorry those 'taters called to you...that's over. It a big credit to be preplanning and cooking foods to keep in the freezer!

billbe - good for you...managing the food at the meeting. I totally agree - sometimes it's so much easier when we are home in our 'food comfort zone' rather than out there in the world. Yes, take motivation or inspiration at the gym in any shape or form - Julia or the 'show offy' guy. Carry on.

wndramme - credit for running! And - realizing again how much you really like it!

merino - major credit for slow mindful eating and feeling fullness!! Also - not eating while standing make a HUGE difference. YAY I agree...the weighing thing can be so hard to figure out. In the first book Dr. Beck says once a week or everyday if that works best. The latest book she says every day, apparently. (i don't have that book) But, I think sometimes it's hard to figure out what works best for each person. I guess it's trial and error.
Sorry DH doesn't quite understand or has a hard time relating to the journey it takes to live with food in a sane healthful manner. It's so much more than will power. One thing dr. beck said has stuck with me. She says, when it comes to family members, say.."It would be so helpful to me if you would __________" Sometimes I say - keep your candy out of the house etc.

kim - you are doing well...food and cigarettes is a daunting task , but you are facing it well. Carryon!

nathy - you said - I have been in harmony with my food for already 5 days. - what a lovely way to say you and food have done well. You've gotten through many challenging situations - credit!! Wonderful.

shepardess - you said - skipping the coffee cake, snicker doodles and cinnamon rolls. That is a major credit! I used to hate throwing food away - but, I've grown to learn it's better in the trash than me.

ceejay - oh no!! - I am so sorry to hear of your sore foot! Knowing that taking over this other job can be stressful (transitions/ changes always are) will help you face it without turning to food. Hold on tight to what you know works and helps.

gardenjoy - glad your Japanese dinner went well. Good idea skipping seeing a possible salt weight gain.

hikergirl - many credits yay...glad you posted.

hikergirl 05-04-2010 10:49 AM

Hi everyone. Thank you for your welcome back. Yesterday I did really well with food etc until late in the evening when I was doing some homework (pattern making (sewing courses)) at the kitchen counter (peninsula) and I opened the drawer that has bread in it. It was not pretty. I did not go to the gym this morning.

I will remember my main advantage – When my eating is in control I sparkle. I am powerful when I sparkle.

Have a good day every one.


Gardenerjoy – smart move on staying off the scale for one day after soy sauce stuff

Merinogirl – I have been in the situation you are describing with regards to someone close to you who believes that weight control is strictly a matter of desire/will power. It is very challenging (and delicate?). Good Luck.

Bennyhan- Ok, I will follow you getting back into the groove and you follow me. I am challenged, but I am here (message board).

Nathy – Congrats on “harmony”. I like that word and concept with regards to food.

Wndranne – Hello!

BBE – Eating “sanely”. I like that picture. You really seem to have things in the groove.

Seadwaters – glad to read that you have said “oh well” to the potatoes.

Beverlyjoy – you Rock!




Weight:
May 2nd 160.9, 3rd 159, 4th 158.7

Exercise month to date:
110 min.

Month to date -Days with out compulsive overeating 2 of 3.

gardenerjoy 05-04-2010 10:50 AM

The middle of the day yesterday was completely off plan, but apparently I made reasonable substitutes, which is a skill I need to have, so credit for that. Today's challenge is yet another meal out, this time supper, and at a new place that I don't have a plan for. So, I'll plan to focus on veggies and decide on a reasonable portion size as soon as I see my supper, staying completely open to the idea of leaving half of it.

WI: -0.35kg (new low), Exercise: +55 130/1400 minutes for May, Food: 70%op, Read my Advantages and Responses: no

Merino: You might try this: Strategy is stronger than willpower. That sounds very Beckian, but I actually got it from a book called The Thin Comandments by Stephen Gullo. You BF has found a strategy that works for him, you're coming up with a strategy that works for you. Guys like strategy -- it makes them feel like generals :), so maybe that would help.

bennyhannahmama: yay for two posts in one day! And for all the dancing broccoli! Kudos for stopping when you were satisfied instead of when the food ran out.

nathy: yay for harmony with food -- that's a beautiful way to say it.

wndranne: good to see you running, especially since you enjoyed it.

BillBlueEyes: yay for both eating and exercise credits! Life is better without a boil order! Thanks for remembering my brother. This past weekend he went out of town to spend time with his SO's family, continuing to keep a relationship with them AND he went on a date. So, he seems to be healing in all kinds of ways.

seadwaters: I'm so impressed that you put your food in the database -- go you! I used CalorieKing at one time and thought it had the best database of any website.

Beverlyjoy: so happy you saw a lower number on the scale! Glad you coped with your twists and turns yesterday, too.

nathy 05-04-2010 03:00 PM

Hi everyone,

I am glad you liked my "harmony with food":thanks:. As I am not native English speaker (only "studybymyselvepupil"), it ´s difficult for me to find the exact terms. In "harmony case" I wanted write -be on(in) track but I didn´t know the right preposition and was lazy to find it. Sometimes I want to write more personals but it ´s difficult for me to explain or desribe. I take a lot of interest in psychology (have state exam), psychiatry, spirituality and.....but I can´t use this information in English properly. Maybe once.....
I like very much reading English written books so I believe that I will improve my own written and spoken English. (BTW Today I have visited library and borrowed A prayer for Owen Meany from John Irwing)
Finish my language corner, now food corner.

Still OP, without overeating, reading Beck ´s book, 15 min. twist stepper and a bit walking. I noticed that I ´m so gratefull and happy without overeating that I like even doing household chores :dizzy::Dand other unpopular things. Funny, isn´t it?
Nathy

Shepherdess 05-04-2010 04:01 PM

Yesterday was a good, disciplined food day. I wrote out a plan first thing in the AM and stuck to it. I did use my resistance muscle when DH and I were running errands and it was close to lunch. He stopped for some fries, which sounded good, but I stuck with a diet coke and waited until I got home to have my planned lunch. It feels great to be back in control.

We’re having a couple of windy days here. I was too tired to run yesterday anyways, but I did do some yoga, which was great for all my sore muscles. The forecast for today was for a “major wind event,” but DH and I were moving the last of the sheep out of the barn this AM and it wasn’t that bad. I went for a run this AM. When I started out I was scoffing at the forecast. It was windy, but it certainly wasn’t an “event” let alone a “major event.” But it did start to pick up and towards the end I felt like if I stretched my arms out, I might achieve liftoff. Now the winds are at almost 40 mph, with gusts up to 60 mph, so I will concede that this is an event. That’ll teach me to be smug.

CeeJay, I love your determination to face your challenging trip. You’ve done well before and you can do it again. It’s great that you are picking up the slack for your boss while he’s recovering from surgery. Good luck with the added work load.

Hikegirl, waving back. Great job getting right back and into the posting habit after a vacation and kudos for all your Beck credits.

Gardenerjoy, kudos for eating carefully at the Japanese restaurant. It’s nice of your brother to take you out and even nicer that he chose a cuisine where you can make healthy choices. Great job making reasonable substitutes. It is an important skill, though always difficult for me.

MerinoGirl, sorry that your DH just doesn’t understand how hard some of us struggle with food. Those who don’t struggle just don’t understand, but luckily, everyone here understands. I don’t know if it would help if he read Beck. If you think it would help him “get it” you could explain that it is something that is important to you. If not, you may just have to ignore his comments for a while and come here knowing that we’re all in the same boat.

Bennyhannamamma, so glad you’re feeling better and you have a long list of credits to be proud of! Good job surviving your potentially disastrous morning and staying on track through it all.

Nathy, great job for 5 days of “harmony with food.” That’s such a great phrase for it. Kudos for staying on plan with a BBQ with friends. That’s always a tough situation.

Wndranne, yay for running! I love it too. Great job fitting it in with your busy life. I love seeing your posts, even if brief and it’s great that you are doing what you can. A short post is better than none.

BillBE, kudos for eating sanely at a snack/work event and managing to keep the two separate. Great job for slow lunges with perfect form. When I do lunges, it’s quick and dirty. Any way I can get through them.

Seadwaters, if your only food sin was a little too much potato, it sounds like a pretty good day. However, it does go to show that those starches are always potentially dangerous. Yay for a freezer full of food that you can easily fit into your plan.

Beverlyjoy, congrats on another lb down and a chance to set a new mini-goal. And you did it even with the difficulties from your foot. Those nibbles. . . I wish I knew how long it took to re-train my brain that they don’t help frustration.

nathy 05-04-2010 04:36 PM

And now some personals:
First of all Merino girl . I am so glad you posted but feel sorry that your husband isn´t supportive. Come to us, we all are openhearted.

Gardenerjoy - thanks for "Strategy is stronger than willpower. " It´s written so concisely and it´s a big true. I will remember it and repeated several times a day. When I want to have some meal out, my mind organization is like a preparation of Summit NATO.But it ´s worth to it.

Hikegirl -you have written .."When my eating is in control I sparkle."
I feel the same. I have described it in my last post. I wish you a lot of sparkling.

Beverlyjoy - I ´m doing happy dance with and for you. It´s interesting that first I was writting my post and reading our thread after and a lot of us have the same mood. Nice.

BillBE - credit for eating sanely at a working meeting and for gym, too.
May I ask you, Bill, something? I don´t want to be unpolite but why are you here? Do you or did you have problem with food? It seems to me that you are pattern of a healthy eater, you keep your food like Swiss watch...

Anne - credit for remembering of running

Kim - great, so many brokolli, KUDOS for giving up smoking.I am so glad you posted!

Shepherdess - I admire you that you have so many power to run even when you have to be very bussy with your sheep (and 30 cowboys, too)

Nice day to all. nathy


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