Help. I'm out of Ketosis AGAIN! - 3 Fat Chicks on a Diet Weight Loss Community

Changed 1 · 12-12-2014, 11:15 PM

How quickly does the Ketosis stick show you have been kicked out of ketosis? Do I look at today's or yesterday's food when I go from large to trace in 24 hours?

I keep bouncing back and forth and I'm not sure what is causing the fluctuations. I've narrowed it down to two foods and it depends on how long it takes to be kicked out to know which food is the culprit.

Mossy · 12-13-2014, 08:50 AM

It doesn't take long at all and definitely within 24 hours or less. It can take 7-10 days before you go back into keto. So if you bounce in and out with a couple of foods frequently, you'll take longer to get back to keto. Immediate to be kicked out and days of compliance to get back in. It doesn't happen overnight.

Changed 1 · 12-13-2014, 10:20 AM

So how do I find out what is the cause of me coming out?

I'm in for 3 or 4 days then suddenly out then it takes 3 to 4 days to get back in and then I'm in for 3 or 4 days then out. I have eaten pretty consistently the same things every day as I am staying in the Induction phase until I get on track for a full 2 weeks. I started November 1. My carb counting says I am staying between 0 and 13 carbs a day.

JerseyGyrl · 12-13-2014, 11:54 AM

Are you relying on those keto sticks? Speaking from my own experience, those are not accurate. I lost 100 lbs. on Atkins and they never changed color for me at all. Fat intake affects the keto strips. Water affects the keto strips. All I'm saying is, they are not 100% accurate.

Changed 1 · 12-13-2014, 06:33 PM

Thanks JerseyGirl, that's good to know. I'm loosing slowly. I've lost 18 pounds since November 1st. I'm still eating less than 15 carbs a day. I've never been back at zero ketones but I go from trace to large and back again every 3 to 4 days. Between the stick fluctuations and talking to others that have done Atkins (that say they lose like a pound a day for the first couple of months) I'm thinking I'm messing up somewhere.

JerseyGyrl · 12-13-2014, 06:57 PM

What does a typical day's menu look like?

Changed 1 · 12-13-2014, 07:13 PM

Breakfast: 2 scrambled eggs with powdered garlic, oregano, and 1/4 cup full fat mozzarella cheese.
Lunch: various pieces of meat (chicken breast, turkey, hamburger patty etc) maybe include one stick of string cheese
Dinner: Boar's Head (zero fillers) Deli sliced meat with Boar's Head deli sliced cheese
Snack: Most days Pork Rinds with either sour cream or guacamole some times I'll have SF Jello with homemade whipped cream (Whipped cream recipe is Heavy Whipping Cream with bit of vanilla and Stevia)
I only drink water or decaf tea made with Stevia

JerseyGyrl · 12-13-2014, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Changed 1

Breakfast: 2 scrambled eggs with powdered garlic, oregano, and 1/4 cup full fat mozzarella cheese.
Lunch: various pieces of meat (chicken breast, turkey, hamburger patty etc) maybe include one stick of string cheese
Dinner: Boar's Head (zero fillers) Deli sliced meat with Boar's Head deli sliced cheese
Snack: Most days Pork Rinds with either sour cream or guacamole some times I'll have SF Jello with homemade whipped cream (Whipped cream recipe is Heavy Whipping Cream with bit of vanilla and Stevia)
I only drink water or decaf tea made with Stevia

Are you doing Atkins Induction??

Changed 1 · 12-13-2014, 09:49 PM

Yes. I've been doing Induction until I can stay in Ketosis for 2 weeks straight. I started November 1.

The reason I asked how long it took to come out of Ketosis is that I cheated last Tuesday but I didn't come out of Ketosis until Thursday. Thursday I had the SF Jello with whipped cream. I wouldn't think it was the whipped cream that kicked me out but the whipped cream has been a weekly treat and I'm out so often plus it's rare for me to cheat. November 2nd I had frozen yogurt, I had some dressing, cranberries, and alcohol on Thanksgiving, and last Tuesday I had a glass of wine with 2 tacos in the shell.

Is there a delay between eating a cheat food and coming out of Ketosis? If so, how long does it take to show up that you ate something wrong? If it's 3 or 4 days then I can look for that pattern, if it's instantly or just a couple of hours then I can look for that pattern.

JerseyGyrl · 12-14-2014, 08:04 AM

The reason I asked is because I see no veggies or salads. You should be getting 12-15 of your 20 carbs per day from veggies & salad on the Acceptable Foods list. You are also limited to 3 - 4 ozs. cheese. Although cheese is permitted on Induction, it is a common "staller" for most (myself included). Even though I have been doing Atkins for 10 and a half years, I still limit my cheese to 1 or 2 ozs. every few days. "SF" jello is something else I would stay away from. I would also be very mindful of artificial sweeteners including Stevia. Heavy whipping cream is also limited to 3 ozs. Sour Cream is limited to 1 oz.

Alcohol is definitely something that should be avoided on Induction.

As for Ketosis, if you eat "cheat" foods, typically you will see the results in the next day or 2.

With all due respect, and I do not mean this to sound snarky or rude but, it sounds like you are having a struggle committing to this. Diets don't work. Lifestyle change is what is needed if you want long term success.

Changed 1 · 12-14-2014, 08:54 AM

I will increase my veggies. Will this tell me how long it takes to be kicked out of ketosis after I eat it?

One fourth a coup of cheese is 2 ounces and one stick of string cheese is one ounce so that is only 3 ounces....on the days that I eat it.

Alcohol is out....no longer one half glass every 3 weeks.

Out of Ketosis in a day or 2. Good to know. That is the answer to what I originally asked.

Commitment issues? Maybe you're right. Maybe I should quit struggling to figure this out. In the end, I am who I am no matter what my weight is. I think you just gave me my excuse to quit. Thank you. You just made my life a lot easier.

JerseyGyrl · 12-14-2014, 09:21 AM

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I think you just gave me my excuse to quit. Thank you. You just made my life a lot easier.

I certainly wasn't suggesting you quit.

TheSatinPumpkin · 12-14-2014, 03:28 PM

"Losing weight is hard, maintaining weight is hard, staying fat is hard; choose your hard."

Changed 1 · 12-14-2014, 05:15 PM

I'm pretty upset about this whole thing but I'm not going to quit. It would be easier but I'm going to stick with it. I feel better. I'm sleeping better. I'm never hungry. And I have a lot more energy.

I did go back to the book and reread quite a bit. Just knowing that it takes a day or 2 for it to show up that I've been kicked out of Ketosis makes me look at what I'm eating differently.

The whipping cream is Atkins recipe and he says it alright on Level 1 but I now know for sure it's not the cream. It was the tacos. Levels 2, 3, 4, and 5 are where I keep messing up. I am adding a bit but not just the way he says to add them. The book says to stop the salad if you aren't in Ketosis so I will add those salads back and stop trying to move the next level.

At least for awhile.

mom2threebratz · 12-29-2014, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Changed 1

I'm pretty upset about this whole thing but I'm not going to quit. It would be easier but I'm going to stick with it. I feel better. I'm sleeping better. I'm never hungry. And I have a lot more energy.

I did go back to the book and reread quite a bit. Just knowing that it takes a day or 2 for it to show up that I've been kicked out of Ketosis makes me look at what I'm eating differently.

The whipping cream is Atkins recipe and he says it alright on Level 1 but I now know for sure it's not the cream. It was the tacos. Levels 2, 3, 4, and 5 are where I keep messing up. I am adding a bit but not just the way he says to add them. The book says to stop the salad if you aren't in Ketosis so I will add those salads back and stop trying to move the next level.

At least for awhile.

just wondering how your doing with ketosis since making changes. i'm new myself and didn't realize some of the things were limited