Which Atkins book do you use?
 

I've got the original 1972 book. It's food stained and pages falling out. I also have a bunch of the newer books. The newer ones are quite a bit different.
Which book do you guys follow?
The oldie but goodie?
The new fangled ones with the new "convenience" foods?
Don't fix what ain't broken?
Or...current is cool?

Another one following DANDR.

I too have an older version (somewhere on my bookshelf).. but next to me on my counter top is the 2002 version... :)

Wondering the same thing about which book~
 

After reading this post I realized I wasn't sure if anything basic had changed. I had sold my first copy/or donated it,thinking I had memorized everything.(wrong) so today went to the library and picked out three all pre-2003..As I was flipping through I noticed No beans..even black beans..somehow I had not memorized that so I'm glad I got all the bks. I did today.I think I got it mixed up w/southbeach which I use to follow and did well on it. However in the past few yrs. I've developed hypothyroidism which slows down the metabolism and makes it even more difficult to lose weight,and the SB wasn't working for me any more. If anyone knows that this way of eating helps that issue I'd be so happy to hear from them.
Nice to meet you all!;)

Thanks for the great tip
 

As per your info. I was able to find a few bk.s on amazon that were printed b4 2002..and was able to buy one. Thanks for that info. It makes sense.:D

Since the science behind weight loss has changed, I used the new books. How does anyone know what Dr. Atkins would have done if he were still with us. Do we still drive Model T's because that is what Ford invented?

Here's a picture of the cover: I'm actually re reading it now for inspiration. It's the one with his picture on the cover.

HI FOLKS
I have done well on Atkins in the past
Now it doesn't seem to work any more
Any ideas would be gratefully received
x

I looked at my book - just to see what year it was and it is a 1997 edition. I think I have several editions though. This is the one I keep at work.

1972
I was doing Grain Brain which in my opinion is Atkins gone organic and in the maintenance stage. If I remember correctly Dr. Perlmutter wrote Grain Brain after he was so impressed with the health of his patients following Atkins. I am a little daft so I had to read both books to figure out what works for me and my family.

I think Grain Brain is very good - Dr Perlmutter knows his stuff, although his plan isn't as weight loss focused as Atkins I do think it incorporates newer science.

Basically the problem with the newer Atkins books is that they allow Atkins products (shakes, bars, etc). That's really where you can go wrong. If you ignore those, the plan hasn't changed much. That said, I do think people who struggle should probably give the 72 (original) version a try - it's more restrictive and more foolproof - he loosened it up to make it more applicable to "everyone" since not every person needs all the restriction to succeed. But some of us do, and if you don't have results on regular Atkins (without Atkins products) I think it's a good plan to try.

Could anyone post the '72 version of induction? I am in China right now so I don't have access to just pop on out to a bookstore to purchase it or to order it online. I would like to start soon. Thanks for anyone that could help. Or you can pm me.

I just thought about that I had an ebook. My ebook version is 2002.

Copied from another forum (I hope they won't mind!) and a disclaimer that I've never done A72...

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*NOTE* This is from the book, Bantam edition / September 1972 paperback...

Not sixty grams of carbohydrate on this diet but zero grams
Here’s how this diet is significantly different. During the first week on this diet, you cut your intake of carbohydrates down to what is biologically zero.
This creates a unique chemical situation in the body, the one favorable to the fastest possible burning of your body’s stored fat. Ketones are excreted, and hunger disappears.
You see, the first fuel your body burns for energy comes from the carbohydrates you eat and drink. If any carbohydrate is available, your body burns this rather than stored fat-and maintains its old metabolic pathways. But carbohydrates, as such, are not stored in the body beyond forty-eight hours.
So when no carbohydrate is taken in, your body must draw upon the major reserve source of fuel-the stored fat.
It is forced to take a different metabolic pathway. In this process your body converts from being a carbohydrate-burning engine.
This is The Diet Revolution: the new chemical situation in which ketones are being thrown off-and so are those unwanted pounds, all without hunger.
A gradual addition of carbohydrate to keep your body burning it’s fat as fuel. We must maintain this chemical situation if you’re to continue to lose without hunger. And if we add carbohydrate very gradually in tiny amounts-we can do just this… keep your body converted into a fat-burning engine.
So that is just what we do. The second week you might add a few grams of carbohydrate to your diet. Every week thereafter a little more carbohydrate (around five grams) may be returned to the diet.

The Rules of Original Atkins

The Diet Revolution Rules (Level One)
1. Don’t count calories
2. Eat as much of the allowed foods as you need to avoid hunger.
3. Don’t eat when you are not hungry.
4. Don’t feel you must finish everything on your plate just because it is there.
5. Drink as much water or calorie free beverages as thirst requires. Don’t restrict fluids… but it is not necessary to force them either.
6. Frequent small meals are preferable.
7. If weakness results from rapid weight loss, you may need salt.
8. Everyday take a high-strength multivitamin pill.
9. Read the labels on “low-calorie” drinks, syrups, desserts,. Only those with no carbohydrate content are allowed.

The First Life-Changing Week, eat nothing that is not on the list.
Meat: Steaks, Corned beef, Lamb chops, tongue, Hamburgers, Bacon, Any kind of meat in any quantity—except meat with fillers such as sausage, hot dogs, meatballs, most packaged “cold cuts”
Fowl: Duckling, Turkey, Chicken, Anything with wings, No stuffing
Desserts: Gelatin with artificial sweeteners (e.g., D-Zerta [is that still around?])
Condiments: Salt, pepper, mustard, horseradish, vinegar, vanilla, and other extracts; artificial sweeteners; any dry powdered spice that contains no sugar
Drinks: Water, Mineral water, Vichy, Club soda; Beef or Chicken broth, bouillon; Sugar free diet soda; coffee*, tea, decaffeinated coffee
---------*Special note on caffeine and Diet Cola. Because most heavy people have some hypoglycemia, coffee, tea and diet colas, which contain caffeine, should be limited to six servings a day (cups). If you know you have low blood sugar, better limit it to three.
Fish: All fish, including canned salmon, tuna; any kind of seafood, including oil-packed and smoked, except oysters, clams, muscles, scallops, and pickled fish
Eggs: Boiled, fried, scrambled, poached, omelet – any style and without limitations
Salads: Two small green salads a day (each less than one cupful, loosely packed) made only of leafy greens, celery, or cucumbers and radishes. Dressings with vinegar, oil, salt, dry spices, herbs, grated cheese, or anchovies. Or else a sour pickle in place of a salad. Plus… green olives.
Butter & Mayonnaise Fats: Butter, margarine (head New Diet Revolution & eat no margarine with trans fatty acids), oils, shortening (not such a great idea), lard & mayonnaise (fats have no carbohydrates).
Juice: Juice of one lemon or lime
Cheese: Four ounces a day of any hard aged cheese. No cream cheese or cheese spreads.
Heavy Cream: Four teaspoons a day. (Cream has less carbohydrate than milk – so don’t use milk)
Diet Revolution Salad Material: Celery, Chicory, Chinese Cabbage, Chives, Cucumber, Endive, Escarole, Fennel, lettuce, Olives (Green or Black), Onions, Pickles (Sour or Dill), Parsley, Peppers, Radishes, Scallions, watercress.
What Happens After The First Week’s Diet. Most diets are fixed formulas and are therefore short-termed and self-limiting. This diet is fixed only for a week. After that – because it must be a lifetime diet, it is, as variable as are individual tastes.
I’ve labeled the additions of carbohydrate that follow’ second level’, ‘third level’, ‘fourth level’, ‘fifth level’, but in fact the additions are interchangeable and flexible. You can make any of these additions any week that you choose. I am so committed to making this a livable lifetime diet that I am letting you select your own variations, within the rules set up by your biological rulebook.
Put back what you’ve missed the most: The idea is simply to gradually return to your diet first what you missed most. Custom-tailor the diet to suit your carbohydrate additions to suit your lifestyle. All that matters is that you add back to your diet a little carbohydrate at a time, and that you stop adding carbohydrate when you reach your CCL.
How to know when to put back a little carbohydrate: Ask yourself: Are the keto-stix still turning purple? Am I still un-hungry? Have I stopped eating at night? Do I have more energy? Am I still losing weight or inches nicely? Remember, your tape measure is a lot better friend than your scale, not only more accurate, but better able to report on the actual fat (not just temporary water) losses this diet achieves.
The Second Level: Cheesecake for dessert? At each level, remember you add approximately five to eight grams of carbohydrate daily for a week and analyze the results. Most people agree the best way to handle the second level is to add cottage cheese…
The Diet Revolution Vegetables (not for level one): All of the above plus; Asparagus, Avocado, Bamboo Shoots, Bean Sprouts, Beet Greens, Broccoli, Brussels Sprouts, Cabbage, Cauliflower, Chard, Chinese Cabbage, eggplant, Kale, Kohlrabi, Mushrooms, Okra, Onions, Peppers, Pumpkins, Rhubarb, Sauerkraut, Snow Pea Pods, Spinach, String Beans, Summer Squash, Tomatoes, Turnips, Water Chestnuts, Wax Beans, Zucchini Squash

Sample menu, level one:
Breakfast: Scrambled eggs with spicy ham, Diet revolution roll and butter, Bouillon, coffee, or tea
Lunch: Cold cuts sandwich on Diet revolution Roll w/ mayo or mustard, 1 cup of salad (loosely packed), oil & vinegar, or a dressing from the recipe list, Raspberry gelatin, Diet soda, coffee, or tea
Dinner: Chicken soup with Matzoh Balls, Your favorite cut of steak, Caesar salad with Caesar Salad dressing, Gelatin, diet soda, coffee or tea
Snack: baken-ets, stuffed celery, diet soda.

Sample menu, level two:
Breakfast: Lox and stuffed onion omelet, caraway Diet revolution Roll with cream cheese, Bouillon, coffee, or tea
Lunch: Avocado stuffed with crabmeat, Tossed green salad with dressing from recipe list, diet soda, coffee, or tea
Dinner: Mixed grill with garlic Butter Sauce or Béarnaise Sauce, Tossed salad with French Dressing, Gelatin Parfait with whipped cream, diet soda, coffee, or tea
Snack: Assorted smoked fish, Hard cheese, Diet soda

Ok, there it is 'By The Book', but I am wondering if there was an earlier version? Interesting the differance between this one and the new one. I will post some recipes later in this thread

Does anyone have an opinion on the veggies allowed in phase one when doing an extended induction? Should I only stick to the greens, cucumber, radish or go with the extended list??

I mean the list posted online via the Atkins website which lists things like onions, mushrooms, bell peppers, tomatoes, etc as being on their induction list.

I think what you mean refers to the list of 2 cups of salad vegetables and then 1 cup of "other" vegetables and yes you can follow that ratio on induction 2/1 I do believe.....

Thank you. Any input from anyone who is already thru induction is very much appreciated. I just finished all my blood work and got results today and the all clear from my doctor so very ready to start this plan on Monday.

Thank you so much!