Just a quick note that this is the Atkins support forum, so criticism of the diet is not permitted within these walls. The same is to be said of any of our support forums. If a diet is discussed outside of those walls, then the topic is fair game. When you are within their walls, you should respect the members for their personal choices.

I mention this because we had to delete a post that went in the wrong direction.

Thanks :)

Oh, I am so sorry if you think I was being snarky. My point in posting that was to only reiterate that my comments were not directed to Atkins, low-carb or whatever. I am not sure why this discussion went to something other than the discussion of the article. My comments were posted directly regarding the article. Since the OP ONLY posted an article, what else would I be commenting on? Nope, no snark here and certainly I never, ever intentionally am "condesending" on the board or in real life for that matter. Please consider my apology. :)

Just a clarification that it certainly wasn't anything I POSTED that needed deletion. Carry on weightloss sistahs! :carrot:

So why do that posting directed at me! And yes it was condescending to me to tell me to read the thread and to reread another member's posting? Again you should reread who I was posting to or are you now policing what is said to other members regarding their experience? Yep, snarky is here! :(

Ha! The author of the "article" in question got his J.D. from an online school! And did the "MBA" as a two-for-one degree deal with his osteopathic degree! And I found this about osteopaths online:
"Leaders of conventional medicine may no longer use the word quack, but many still look askance at the osteopathic system of medical thought, which they feel lacks the intellectual rigor and the scientific underpinnings of their own practice."
Ha! Ha!
I always like looking up the credentials of controversial authors before I take what they say for granted...
As for all you Atkiners out there -- more power to you, and if this plan is working for you and you have no health issues, then no one else has the right to tell you what to do.
Kira

Excuse me, but there are plenty of very good and capable D.O.s (Doctors of Osteopathy) out there. Their training is just as rigorous as M.D.s, plus they also have training in osteopathy. They serve in hospitals and clinics all over the country.

You may now resume your normal activities. ;)

Jay

Cie, yes I understand what you are saying. Again, I am sorry. It was not my intent to hurt your feelings.

I appreciate what you are saying about D.O.'s but the certification is not recognized in a number of other countries with respect to equivalency to M.D. degrees and with respect to validity. Many countries limit D.O's scope of practice or do not recognize it at all.
I mentioned specifically the concerns that traditional MDs have with respect to DOs because of DO training history with respect to reliance on what they consider to be a non-scientific basis of training. Certain skeletal manipulations (which osteopaths are trained to do) are also controversial in the medical world.
I still think the qualifications of an individual who uses their degrees to validate their point of view (else why list them other than to denote some sort of special knowledge) should be open to investigation...

Kira
Caveat Emptor

Thank you :) My SIL is currently just finishing her first year in Osteo school :) It's rigorous and intense, to say the least. I hope one day she will be recognized just as legitimately as an MD. After all, an ounce of prevention...

I have never noticed a difference in hospital privileges for MD vs DO.

According to Wikipedia,

Today, the training of osteopathic physicians is virtually identical to that of their MD counterparts.[5] Osteopathic physicians use all conventional methods of diagnosis and treatment but are trained to place additional emphasis on the achievement of normal body mechanics as central to maintaining good health.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopa..._United_States

I post on a board that has a thumbs up smiley and I really miss it over hear sometimes. Thanks for the link :)

As someone who isn't going through the coursework, only witnessing the rigor at which my SIL approaches her education with, I can attest to that (somewhat). I do think a certain attitude about their legitimacy is still out there, as demonstrated in a post before mine. That's really all I was referring to.

DOs and MDs are also side by side in the same residencies.