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Old 03-01-2001, 04:12 AM   #1  
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I have noticed that the last couple of months since being on a diet, I am soooo very grouchy. I am irritable most of the time and really have to watch my temper with my kids and husband. I snap so easily then, I continue on with the arguement even though I know it is a bunch of bunk...I used to think I was starting to develope PMS, I am 27 and never had it before. But I am irritable every day almost, and I find myself crying and shouting "What's wrong with me!!!"... I am exhausted almost every minute of the day, I can't get enough sleep, 14 hours a day isn't enough I guess!!! what the heck am I doing wrong? I am on Prozac, I exercise and eat pretty nutritious foods...I am losing it big time...I feel like I am getting sucked under with these feelings, and I feel out of control...

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I take vitamins too, so I am not low on iron etc...I had a recent bloodwork , and the doctor was thrilled, my numbers were great...
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Old 03-01-2001, 04:54 AM   #3  
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Renee, here's my experience, for what it's worth.

I've been keeping a journal since I started this journal, and it's been a revelation to me what a B* I really am. I have a negative, angry attitude most of the time. It's the way my brain is programmed, I guess. Anyway, I've realized that I've always been like this, except instead of expressing those feelings before, I submerged them through eating. Now that I'm not stuffing food in my mouth all the time, all that anger is coming out. Before I figured this out what was going on, my house was not a very happy place to be. What has helped, is the journal. It gives me a place to express my negative feelings. It also allows me to figure out the issue so I can direct my anger/energy there, instead of just spewing it out at the first opportunity. I've found that anger is not necessarily a bad thing. Why not try giving a journal a try. It's been my life-saver
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That was such a kind response and I bet it hit home for many Weight Watchers.
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Old 03-01-2001, 11:24 PM   #5  
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Hi,

One other thing you might look at is where you are eating in your point range and how much exercise you're getting. If you always eat at the minimum, especially if you exercise and don't use up your activity points, your body may not be getting enough nutrients, even though you make healthy choices. And that can cause a lot of grouchiness and tiredness. Plus, most people who do this, thinking that eating less will speed up their weight loss, find that eventually their weight loss acutally slows down and even stops. Their bodies go into starvation mode and hang on to every fat cell.

My experience with this phenomenon started many years ago with each time I used the older WW programs. The WW programs before the point system asked everyone, regardless of their starting weight, to eat the same number of calories each day. I used to get so grouchy and tired, especially on the really restricted week 1 plans that were designed to kick start us with a big wieght loss. Well, my starting weight was always high enough that those calorie ranges were in the starvation mode for me.

Now, I'm eating more food and losing much more steadily without that extra grouchiness and without being so tired all the time.

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Renee, all the suggestions here are good ones!! But I didn't see anything about calcium. Are you taking extra while the pms is happening? I know what you are talking about I talked to my doc about what I am going through and she asked me to up my calcium some. I can't drink milk and because of that I eat 2 viactiv calcium supps a day, but when my period looms, she told me to try 3 and see what happens. She's fantastic and doesn't just put you on a pill when you tell her what you're going through. So, I'm (not so anxiously) awaiting my time of the month to see if she's right about the calcium... Let's hope she is because if she's not... then I'm going to have to go out and live in the woods for 4 days! LOL

Take care Renee, and take it one day at a time.
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I don't want to get hissed and booed here but for years I was the queen of all B****es all the time. Then I went on a low carb, high protein plan (Atkins) and finally knew what it felt like to be on an even keel all the time. I couldn't believe the change in my personality (and neither could my hubby). I lost a lot of weight too.
Now, however, I am no longer able to lose weight on a low carb plan and I'm back on WW but, because I learned that I don't do well emotionally or physically with lots of sugary, starchy foods, I try to have a bit more protein and have eliminated any refined or super-starchy foods from my plan. Yes, I eat bread, but stick to the high fiber kinds. The occasional piece of potato and a tiny (really tiny) bit of pasta or rice doesn't do too much harm. But, I've noticed if I go off my personal carb wagon, back comes the irritibility, the puffiness, the weepiness, etc. Just a suggestion but why not try increasing your protein and do without the higher carb refined products made with white flour. It's worth a try to feel human again, believe me.
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LindaBC I don't think anyone will boo and hiss at you..you found a plan that works for YOU--KUDOS for that!!

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Old 03-03-2001, 01:28 AM   #9  
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I will put a lot of thought into your comments. I exploded again today, and just about ripped my daughter's hair out while I brushed it to get her ready for school. My H says that he can't take it much longer, and I better apologize when the kids get home. I cried and cried today.

I do take extra calcium. I am in to high end of my point range. I do keep a diary, and I can't say there is much else that I am doing to cause this...I am sure it's my fault..One way or another. I can't go without carbs, tried that, got sick...I know I am not very uplifting to you all, I just feel at the end of a very long rope...
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Renee, it's time you went back to your doctor and talked to him!! I wondering if it's the prozac, you may need to consider something else such as welbutrin or another anti-depressant. You didn't say if you took it for just PMS or if you are taking it constantly, but I'm really thinking that it's the prozac. If your doctor pooh-poohs you then you've got to find one that WILL listen and help. I'm sorry you are going through this and you feel as if it's all by yourself, but stick with what you feel, you know that something is not right and you've got to get it straight. You'll do, it because you recognize this as a problem. Just promise you won't do anything rash, the help is there, it's just a matter of you finding it and it finding you. Take care, and you're in my prayers.

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I take the Prozac all the time. I have tried the other anti-depressants, and this one is the only one that didn't give me too many side effects. I will consider talking to my doctor. I am afraid to ask for help, I know it sounds stupid, but I don't want to be labeled. Two of my kids have a father in California that is just waiting for me to screw up so that he can petition to get the kids so he won't have to pay child support. The heat is always on me to be the 'perfect mother'. I am so exhausted. I feel like I am ****ed if I do and ****ed if I don't... I am sorry to bring you all down. It's not like you can fix this for me.

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Renee This is just a though but maybe you are just miserable because you are either tired of being fat or tired of worrying about what you have to put in your mouth all the time. It does get annoying living like this and if we have other stresses in our lives I think we tend to say enough is enough.
I hope all turns out better for you and I have found I started to exercise and feel good about myself and that seems to spill over into my life. Either way, Renee we are here for you.
Ps. I was on Atkins and it is strange but everyone has noticed(myself included that I am a happier person on weight watchers. I think its because I am a bread person and can have my breads, however, I would like to lose a little more and if I have to give up on my breads then I might as well be on Atkins. Confused but happy right now. lolo
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I have been unhappily fat for about 8 years now. I wasn't this moody for most of it...I don't know what it is...I am so tired of being grouchy. I feel like everyone is walking on eggshells. I try to control it, but it's like a trance, and I find that when I am in the middle of a mood swing, it's very hard to about face...What's happening to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Renee, let me start by saying that this probably is not your problem, but I'm concerned about you, so I'll tell you about my experiences, just on the off chance that it might help. First, I wonder, when did you start Prozac? Did your irritability and mood swings start when you started taking Prozac, or perhaps when you were still trying out different anti-depressants?

I had a major depression three years ago. I'd been depressed before', but aside from a little counselling I never sought help. So I went to a psychiatrist (I believe in specialists). He ran me through the SSRI antidepressants, but none of them seemed to help, and all of them had side effects. Now that I think of it, I was a bit agitated on them, but I was so used to being pretty irritable anyway that I hardly noticed that. Then he put me on Wellbutrin, and I went really manic. Very, very scary, very bad; I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

So now I know that I have bipolar disorder, type II, and I'm on a combination of drugs that stabilizes my moods. For the first time in decades, I reliably feel like "me. It's scary to think of being 'labelled', but being well is more important than anything else in the world. I have my life back, and my only regret is that I didn't find out earlier.

The bottom line is, it's true, it may be that Prozac and it's relatives aren't working for you, and something like Wellbutrin would (I now use it in conjunction with my mood stabilizer). But think about the bipolar aspect; and if it seems to fit, work with a psychiatrist (or just a psychopharmacologist) to find out what works.

Best of luck to you!
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I am going to add my 2 cents, for what it is worth. I echo whoever said to go back to the doctor. Something as simple as a medication adjustment might be worth looking into or a medication change altogether. I know you are much younger than me, but my mother couldn't take prozac, got on Buspar, I believe and has done just great.

I think there is a perception in society that we must always be the "jolly fat person". I don't know where that one got started. We all are what we are.

As a teacher, I can tell you that when your anger turns to your kids, it does affect them. One of the mom's of a student in my room has an anger problem and exercises like a mad woman.

No one knows what will work for any other person. Maybe your doctor can help you. I will be thinking of you today in my prayers.

As to the person on Atkins who thought they would be booed, more power to you. We all have to find what works for us. Sometimes it is taking one program and adding another to it, or changing a program to fit US!!! sounds like you are doing great!!

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