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Old 08-06-2004, 04:30 AM   #1  
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I'm using phase 2 starch neutralizer. Anyone use it? I've lost weight, but i'm not sure if it's due to the pills.

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Old 08-06-2004, 09:47 AM   #2  
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It is not due to the pills. It's due to watching what you eat. You might as well flush your money down the toilet.
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Old 08-11-2004, 08:10 PM   #3  
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Yep, what Susan says is right.... check out the Buyer Beware thread for more info....
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Old 08-11-2004, 08:25 PM   #4  
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Tried them. Didn't work. You don't need any gimmicks, you have all you need to get to goal. Good Luck and God Bless.
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Thanks for the responses. I find that taking them makes me less prone to overeating carbs. I'd usually crave more carbs after carb-rich meals. But with these pills, once I'm done my meal, I'm done my meal.
I'm going to continue taking them because I feel less guilty

I'll tell you how it goes.
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Placebo?

The pills are probably a safety net, perhaps after awhile you'll wean yourself off them and realise you were not craving more carbs because when you take the pills you EXPECT to not crave them. You are possibly really just becoming more "in tune" with your bodies "full" signals
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Old 10-05-2004, 07:44 PM   #7  
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i agree wh you missy. i use them too.
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Old 10-05-2004, 08:52 PM   #8  
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I'm copying this from another post

Someone else had questioned this at an earlier date, and I found the following information from a physician:

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This is complete nonsense. If you managed to completely block all
digestion of starch you ate, the bacteria in your intestine would get the sugars and you'd blow up like a balloon from gas, and then have diarrhea. Exactly like having lactose intolerance, and for the same reason. In fact, the well-known gas from beans is also a result of incompletely digested sugars in beans. Stuff that isn't digested higher up, will always get digested by bacteria further down, and with disasterous results. There is actually a prescription starch digestion blocker on the market for diabetics (called "Precose" or acarbose), but its effect is only to slow digestion of starch down, not stop it. Nearly the same calories are absorbed, and even here, the major side effects are (you guessed it) gas and diarrhea.

Several studies of the actually effect of weight-loss "starch
blockers" are in the literature. In one famous one, the entire gut was washed out with a "colonoscopy prep solution" several hours after a test meal, or a test meal with starch blocker. This was done for a number of subjects. The caloric content of both kinds of washout mixtures was measured (yeah, gross work, but it's science). The result? No difference.* These things are scams. They don't even block starch digestion as well as Precose, and Precose is no good for weight loss.

Steve Harris, M.D.

*Citations of Basic Science

Bo-Linn GW, et al: Starch-blockers-- their effects on calorie
absorption from a high-starch meal. N Engl J Med 307:1413, 1982.

Garrow JS, et al: Starch blockers are ineffective in man. Lancet
1:60, 1983.

Carlson GL, et al: A bean alpha-amylase inhibitor formulation (is
ineffective in man). Science 219:393, 1983.


Commentary:

Starch blockers-- still no calorie free lunch. N Engl J Med
307:1444, 1982
MrsJim had also responded to a similar post with this great reply:

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Starch blockers have been around for awhile now.

Save your money - they're worthless.

Check out this article from Quackwatch:

http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery.../blockers.html

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Be Wary of "Calorie-Blockers"

Many people wish that a pill or potion could counteract the effect of eating more than one needs to maintain weight. Many thieves cater to this wish by selling "miracle" products claimed to block the absorption of food components.

In the early 1980s, "starch blockers" were claimed to contain an enzyme extracted from beans that could block the digestion of significant amounts of starch. The enzyme works in the test tube, but the human body produces more starch-digesting enzymes than these products could possibly block. In addition, undigested carbohydrates that reach the large intestine can ferment and cause trouble. In 1982, the FDA received more than 100 reports of abdominal pain, diarrhea, vomiting and other adverse reactions among users of "starch-blockers." As the reports poured in, the agency took regulatory action and drove most of these products from the marketplace.

During the early 1990s, Cal-Ban 3000 was said to cause "automatic" weight loss by decreasing appetite and blocking the absorption of fat. Its ingredient was guar gum, a soluble fiber used in small amounts as a thickener in sauces, desserts, syrups, and various other foods. Guar gum has some medically recognized value as a bulk laxative, a cholesterol-lowering agent, and an adjunct to controlling blood sugar levels in certain diabetics. But it has not been proven effective for weight control.

When taken by mouth, guar gum forms a gel within the stomach that may contribute to a feeling of fullness and block absorption of a few nutrients. However, neither of these characteristics is enough to produce weight loss. Many overweight people keep eating even when their stomach signals that it is full. Moreover, if food absorption is decreased, the individual may eat more to compensate.

But Cal-Ban tablets were not merely ineffective. When placed in water, they would swell to 4 or 5 times their original size and assume the consistency of putty. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration collected reports of at least 17 cases of esophageal obstruction among Cal-Ban users. Hospital stays were required by ten of these people, one of whom died. Other reports of harm involved stomach obstruction, upper and lower intestinal obstruction, nausea, and vomiting.

Extracts of Gymnema sylvestre, a plant grown in India, are alleged to cause weight loss by preventing sugar from being absorbed into the body. Chewing the plant's leaves can prevent the taste sensation of sweetness. But there is no reliable evidence that the chemicals they contain can block sugar absorption or produce weight loss.

In recent years, chitosan capsules have been claimed to cause weight loss and lower blood cholesterol by binding fats in the stomach and preventing them from being digested and absorbed. Some sellers refer to chitosan as a "fat magnet." It has even been marketed as a weight-control product for dogs. Chitosan is derived from chitin, a polysaccharide found in the outer skeleton of shellfish such as shrimp, lobster, and or crabs. Although chitosan may decrease fat absorption, the amount contained in the capsules is too small to have much of an effect. Scientific studies have found no significant differences in weight or serum cholesterol levels between subjects who took chitosan and those who received a placebo.
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I am not one who agrees that all supplements don't work or are bad for u. That's plain foolishness. As for starch blockers I have tried some a long time ago once, and through research done over the years they just don't work. No one can deny the ephedra was a thermogenic, and it seems now it is dangerous according to a small number of the population that has gotten sick. If u do take anything, follow the dosage amounts on the label, and watch out for things that u may be taking on hte side that could counter the supplements. The point is some stuff works and it is not all bad. If u can do it without them, it is better. If u end up using them be as safe as u possibly can. Sometimes I read these threads and feel like I'm reading stuff a politican might write. Most of the time, I know they mean well, but stay on the logic people. People who have tried it are gonna have more on it's effectivenss, period. Beyond that. At least we don't have to listen to the supplement companies in here. That's like listening to the devil tell u he's the good guy. -Why does he have to be the bad guy, ask the devil. Okay, he'll be the bad guy. Jk. In my opinion 2/3 to half the time they are the plain obvious bad guys, now that makes me sick and pissed off. Later all. Love u too!
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