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Old 12-07-2010, 08:33 PM   #1  
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I read this book once ("Tales from the Scale," edited by Erin J. Shea) in which someone brilliantly described weight loss as comparable to moving to a new city or country. You settle in the new land (Skinnyville) and are thrilled to become a part of the culture there, but every so often you find yourself in the throes of culture shock/fatigue and wax nostalgic about life before weight loss.

I think I'm at that stage now, and I'm sure everyone finds themselves here at some point, where I am just angry and bitter that I can never eat what I want to eat ever again. I'm mad that I screwed my body over by being overweight and sedentary for years, I'm mad that I'm heavy by Asian standards yet all these thin coworkers who don't exercise are eating rice and processed bread and weigh 20-40 lbs less than me, and most of all I'm disheartened knowing this is a lifestyle change that I may struggle with forever. I'm willing to do it for vanity and health, but sometimes it's tough.
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:38 PM   #2  
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Krampus, I completely agree. I love that I can wear smaller clothes, look nicer in (some) pictures, and generally feel healthier, but I am sad that I will never make a batch of funfetti cupcakes or pig out on a papa john's pizza. I also have thin girl envy of my friends who are naturally super cute and small and who talk about cupcake stores opening in our hometown or the huge pot of pasta they're making... RAR!!
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:39 PM   #3  
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Yes, indeed. Sometimes it is tough!!!
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Old 12-07-2010, 10:35 PM   #4  
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I really want to check that book out now haha. It really is tough! I'm proud of myself for making all these changes and I'm loving all the progress I've made, but sometimes I miss just sitting down and eating however much pizza and ice cream and pasta I want. Yeah, that's why I got to be so heavy, but it kind of sucks having to monitor everything all the time when friends and family members can just stuff their faces with whatever and not gain any weight.
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Old 12-07-2010, 10:37 PM   #5  
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Yes, regularly. I think what stopped me from losing the weight sooner than now is because I felt it was soooo unfair that I couldn't eat what I wanted and be thin....

I do have days and weeks (like now!) when I'm on a plateau and I know I can NEVER go back to the way I ate before because I will gain the weight in 3.2 seconds.

I hate that I have PCOS and it makes weight loss so much harder. I've been tracking my exercise minutes on the PCOS board and I am realizing how hard I work to lose weight and anyone else doing what I'm doing would have lose the weight 10 times over... and here i am, having lost approximately 5 lbs in ONE YEAR.

ARGH.

I get so frustrated sometimes about it.
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Old 12-07-2010, 10:55 PM   #6  
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That is a good book! I think there are like 4 stories if I remember right.
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Old 12-08-2010, 12:46 AM   #7  
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Yeah, there are 6 different authors and it's broken up into topical chapters on sex, weigh-in day, the horrors of clothes shopping, etc. Very conversational and casual - most of the authors are bloggers. I really enjoyed it, but I made the mistake of rereading the chapter about binging on ice cream during lunch and I haven't stopped thinking about ice cream since. Sigh.

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Old 12-08-2010, 01:44 AM   #8  
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I can't do "never." If I tell myself I can never again eat something, it depresses me, makes me feel defective, and causes me to pine for that lost, beloved food until I give in and eat it.

"Never" is a wretched, cruel, unsexy, parsimonious little word. "Never" is why you cry when your pet dies and you realize all the tomorrows you'll miss with her. "Never" is why a break-up hurts. "Never" is why people gain ten pounds before their New Year's resolutions because they believe that they'll miss out on the experience of a mouthful of ice cream for the remainder of their lives. Even thinking about "never" to write this made me all morose and hungry.

So instead of saying "never," I just say "not yet." Chances are, "not yet" means the same as "never" for me, as I don't know that there'll ever be a future in which I can eat a little bag of Cheetos without it leading to bigger bags and regaining weight. But I can live with "not yet" in a way that I just can't abide "never."

And yeah, I do feel a little ripped off sometimes that I drew the "short and fat" number in the genetic lottery. Then I realize there are far worse things in life to be than short and fat; I can always wear heels and lose weight, but things like "dumb and ugly" can't be fixed.
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Old 12-08-2010, 01:56 AM   #9  
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Very very very rarely, I miss those kinds of foods. Normally, I feel blessedly free. All my life I struggled with binging and food craving and now I'm free. No matter how good french fries or fudge or peanut butter pretzels taste, there's no way I'd trade the tastes of those foods for my healthy, slim new body.
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:58 AM   #10  
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I can empathize. I am only just beginning my journey though and I am SCARED of being hyper conscious to the point of being obsessed, with caloric intake in the future. That doesn't seem like a happy life to me.

I never plan to go back to my old ways of excess eating, especially of junk, but I do plan on being able to have whatever food I want once in a while. I hope that naturally I lose the taste for certain foods, for example, this past weekend I went out to a restaurant I love and got calamari, which was fried and had marinara and creamy aioli sauce on top. I looved this dish in the past. It was good the first couple bites but after a few bites it began to taste way too rich and fatty and I started to feel a bit gross eating it. So needless to say, thinking of it now, I don't crave it or plan on eating it again anytime soon. If I naturally lose the taste, I won't be "missing out". Practice becomes perfect, even drinking water, which was hard I have gotten used to and drinking most juices taste waaay too sweet to me now. I can have juice if I want but I find that where I used to want it all the time, now I can only drink it occasionally; I hope that happens with ALL "bad foods". For the things I still like, I plan to ENJOY them! Not everyday or excess amounts like in the past, but I will have them.

I realize we can tend to be super worried about what we eat especially if we're very over weight and worked hard to lose; however, one meal or perhaps even one whole day of eating badly will not cause you to gain tens/hundreds of pound back. It is the prolonged process of doing this ALL the time that leads to that. Hopefully, when you make good habits the norm and also incorporate activity into your life, then you can have whatever you want in moderation. I personally like the idea of making that cake, eating that pie or whatever it is then working out for 2 hours than feeling like I can NEVER have it.

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Old 12-08-2010, 03:42 AM   #11  
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I was reading this great journal article about how celebs are portrayed stuffing their faces with food, eating french fries and pizza and what message this sends out to the public. Remember in the Simple Life with Paris Hilton, she was ALWAYS eating fast food, yet had a perfect figure and complexion? It was like she was making fun of the rest of the world.... she can have her cake and eat it too and still look amazing. Her fattening food became sexy.

Anyway, when you wrote about your coworkers being thin, never exercising, and eating tons of rice - I pictured Paris Hilton eating a huge hamburger. I would love to REALLY know why some people gain weight and others don't. Like, a REAL, long-term study that also focuses on genetics and other factors.

I feel like I would get homesick for food if I were on a diet plan, like Atkins, or if I were diabetic or had a gluten allergy. But, not so much with calorie counting.

But, I think I am reading your post wrongly. I think what really irks you is that you will always have to put in so much time and energy to be a size that is effortless for others. I feel your pain there.

You know those studies that predict how much time the normal human spends sleeping or on the toilet in a lifetime? If I calculated the time that I spent devoted to my weight and body thus far in life, SHEESH - I couldn't even estimate. I'm reading so much, planning so much, worrying so much - I'd say that actually, even though I hate to admit it, I have spent more time in thought about my weight loss than any other activity.

I love the other activities in my life - my boyfriend, my work in Germany, my own studies here - regardless, I'm still devoting SO much attention to my body. I hate that. In that way, I wish I could be like the others who just eat and then they are finished.
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Old 12-08-2010, 08:26 AM   #12  
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I have those thoughts, but then I think of it this way: if calories were like money, there is no way I could spend all the money I want all the time and not go into big debt (get fat). It just isn't realistic to live like I used to. What I do now is what responsible people do.

And my theory is that slim people pay a lot more attention to their weight than we give them credit for. Very few are thin without trying. They may indulge in public - heck, I'm more likely to indulge in public. But behind the scenes, they worry about their weight, too, and take measures to keep it down.

At least that's how I choose to look at it.
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Old 12-08-2010, 08:32 AM   #13  
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Krampus - I'm going to get that book! Sounds very interesting.
bonnnie - that is a VERY telling statement about the time spend worrying or working on weightloss. There is a lot of truth to the expression "Life doesn't begin 5lbs from now."

I have tried to use the analogy of putting gas in my car for feeding my face. If I am mad or happy, do I put super-unleaded in my car? No. If my tank is 1/4 empty, so I stop and re-fill it? No. This has worked for me on both sides of the feeding frenzy - the starve and the binge.

And even though weight loss and maintenance are going to be life-long, uphill battles (I have been battling for 20 years to keep off most of the 50lbs I lost when I was 19), there are probably other things that the "can eat anything" people have to deal with that are just as bad. One of my friends is very thin and hasn't had to diet, but she has body hair that she has to bleach, shave, and get electrolysis for.... She's self-conscious in a bathing suit because of her folicles showing. Not fun. I have another friend who has body acne. She refuses to wear sleeveless shirts even though she has these nice slender arms. Even more not fun.

I want to believe with enough practice, we can all be the kind of people who eat, feel full, and are done.
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Old 12-08-2010, 09:05 AM   #14  
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I think I've just accepted being both defective and discontented.

Defective in that I'm a pear-shaped mesomorph, who spent many years developing really bad eating habits and damaging her metabolism.

Discontented because the ideal that I admire and aspire toward is elegant, slender and athletic.

The effort to reconcile that reality with my ideal is my life's work.

It involves a lot of studying & reading up on nutrition & exercise, keeping abreast of the latest theories, second-guessing my choices, learning how to deal with emotional & psychological baggage, and exercising.

Of course, the other option is to let go of my ideal. But I find that impossible. Over time, though, I've definitely relaxed my standards a bit -- had I not done so, I'd still be suffering from a serious eating disorder, instead of battling with borderline behaviors & always having to watch myself.

But this is my choice. If it feels difficult, it's because I've made it that way. I'm the one who wants to look a certain way, who set a certain standard for herself. I'm also the one who does the eating.

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Old 12-08-2010, 09:13 AM   #15  
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I can also identify with this post... The last time I was at my highest weight was when I was completely comfortable - I was in my senior year of college, I lived with two of my closest friends and was constantly surrounded by familiar faces and places, food did give me comfort and joy, I felt 100% secure.

Fast forward a few years later... I'm now living alone in the city, in a new job (I recently left a job where I shared a workspace with another girl who came to be one of my closest friends and who I could count on daily for support and guidance in all aspects of mylife), other friends who I used to go out with every wknd are now moving on and getting married (meanwhile I recently ended things with a guy who used to be one of my good friends from college before we started dating), and on top of that I have an entirely new body. While it's an exciting time in my life and as I get older I begin to learn more and more of what I want, it's also a bit daunting, and a bit overwhelming. Sometimes I get nostalgic for the days when these close friends (who are now settling down) used to drink on friday and saturday nights, sleep in until noon then order some pizza or pick up Wendys and spend the rest of the day laughing about the night before and watching Real Housewives marathons. Oh the good old days... Now my Saturdays consist of waking up at 8 am, going for a 8-12 mile run, running errands, cleaning my apt, and making a healthy as possible dinner, before going out and obsessing over how many calories are in the vodka soda i'm drinking and making the gut wrenching (or so it feels like at the time) decision not to have that 3 am slice of pizza.

What's interesting though, is that back in the "good old days" I was happy about pretty much everything - except my weight, and I always thought "once I lose this weight, life will be perfect." I envisioned myself being thin, dating all the time, living the "sex and the city" lifestyle in the city... Well, 60 lbs lost later, life isn't "perfect." But even just writing this post has been somewhat enlightening and therapeutic in that I realize that what I've lost in weight, I've "lost" other parts of my life that made me happy, and that I need to work on getting those positives back in my life.

Sorry to go on and on, but trust me - you're not alone. And I also get very, very bitter sometimes that it seems there are some people who can eat whatever and still be thinner than me - i.e. the new girl who i share a workspace with at my new job, probably doesn't weigh more than 120 lbs, goes out all the time and drinks, eats whatever she pleases, does yoga maybe twice a week, and belive me - when i am sitting next to her in a mtg and compare her thighs to mine, and shes helping herself to a second serving of pasta salad, it's brutal....
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