[lisa32989]

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[KareVT]

I just want to say HAVE A GOOD DAY! I missed chatting with you guys yesterday (the work day was nuts) and hope to circle back tonight. This week is a very big social activity week with work. Yesterday was a Golf Tournament that I volunteered at for a few hours (skipped their lunch and ate mine on the side). And, I'm planning a Farewell soiree for one of my bosses employees of 18 years - lots of beer and snack foods; Costco, here I come. However, I'll be sure to order a side veggie platter to have on hand and come armed with my snack, as well.. Serve Beer, Wine and sparkling water. It's ALL about the social aspect, right?

Take care everyone and have a nice IP friendly day!

[trishthayer]

I have decided to lower my goal weight, and I did it 145. This is still a little high when you go by those ideal weight charts but I want to be in the "normal" BMI. The problem is as an adult, or even a teenager, I have never weighed so little. How have you guys come up with your goal weights?
As a side note I did use that dukan calculator also and that had me at 152. Interesting the Dukan calculator

[shrinkingsusie]

Originally Posted by trishthayer

I have decided to lower my goal weight, and I did it 145. This is still a little high when you go by those ideal weight charts but I want to be in the "normal" BMI. The problem is as an adult, or even a teenager, I have never weighed so little. How have you guys come up with your goal weights?
As a side note I did use that dukan calculator also and that had me at 152. Interesting the Dukan calculator

When I did IP previously, my goal weight was 160 because that was the lowest I ever remember weighing, and having been bigger all my life, it is stuck in my head that I could never be skinny, or never be that light. But this time I decided that yes I can! My goal right now is 150 and then re-evaluate when I get there. I know when I was 160 lbs, I wasn't happy with my legs, and my little pouch on my stomach, so I figured 150 was a good place to start. But I have also read on here that with IP people will weigh a weight they had previously, but have been smaller at that weight than they were before. I think it is more about how you feel than the number on the scales. I am hoping that I will "know" when I get there.

[slownsteady]

Originally Posted by trishthayer

I have decided to lower my goal weight, and I did it 145. This is still a little high when you go by those ideal weight charts but I want to be in the "normal" BMI. The problem is as an adult, or even a teenager, I have never weighed so little. How have you guys come up with your goal weights?
As a side note I did use that dukan calculator also and that had me at 152. Interesting the Dukan calculator

We are the same height, not sure about age, but I also have 145 as my goal, which is midway on the "ideal weight for height" scale, so that is how I came up with that number. But I also agree that more than what the scale says will be how I look and feel, as the body shape changes with IP (really lose those fat stores). It also depends on if you build muscle through exercise along the way - as muscle is going to be heavier than fat so if you are a 'muscular' person, you will naturally weigh more than another who looks to be the same size as you.

And what is the Dukan calculator?

[SweetScrumptious]

Going for WI #4 today! Has almost been a full month since I started

[Maxxy]

Can anyone on alternatives tell me if the Quest coconut cashew bars are restricted or unrestricted?

[caressme]

Originally Posted by Maxxy

Can anyone on alternatives tell me if the Quest coconut cashew bars are restricted or unrestricted?

happened to have this open on my desktop

unrestricted (better if 80-120)
- under 160 calories
- less than 30% calories from fat (multiply “calories from fat” by 3; if lower than the total calories product is fine)
- 8g or less NET carbs (NET =total carbs minus fiber)
- above 17g net carbs is too high to be good for Phase 1
- at least 12-15g protein

Restricted – only once a day!
- under 200 calories
- 9g-16g net carbs - restricted
- at least 12-15g protein

Super restricted (only twice per week)
- under 200 calories
- 17g net carbs
- at least 12-15g protein

[CrystalWolf]

Originally Posted by trishthayer

I have decided to lower my goal weight, and I did it 145. This is still a little high when you go by those ideal weight charts but I want to be in the "normal" BMI. The problem is as an adult, or even a teenager, I have never weighed so little. How have you guys come up with your goal weights?
As a side note I did use that dukan calculator also and that had me at 152. Interesting the Dukan calculator

I picked a range of 150- 160 with my coach and put 155 on here as my goal. Dukan says 159 which I hit this morning!!!!!!!!! (Ok 159.6 but the first two numbers are right lol.) I have a specific timeframe I am working with and have to start phasing off on Sept 22. I am hoping to make 155 but if not I have been happy with how I look in clothes for about 10 pounds now.

I can't exercise much without stalling my weight loss so I will increase my exercise and work on toning up when I start P2. In January I plan to do a 2 week reboot as Dr. Trahn suggests and plan to do that annually, if I think I need to lose another 5-10 pounds I might stay P1 long enough to get those off too. I will have to go alternative in Jan because I can't afford IP foods when my hubby is not deployed!

I took 50lbs off pictures on Sunday but can't remember my passwords to photobucket or flikr! I will post them in the before and after thread as soon as I do.

[shannonhs]

Originally Posted by SweetScrumptious

Going for WI #4 today! Has almost been a full month since I started

Good luck. It has been almost a month for me too. Very happy with my progress so far.

[lisa32989]

Originally Posted by Maxxy

Can anyone on alternatives tell me if the Quest coconut cashew bars are restricted or unrestricted?

Neither.
The Quest Coconut Cashew bars don't fit the IP profile (or maybe you could call them Super-restricted and limit to once/week). They have too much fat. Take fat calories (60) multiply by 3 (no more than 1/3 calories from fat) and you can see that there are too many calories from fat in this bar. You'd want no more than 56 calories from fat to be less than 1/3
The other Quest Bars that don't work (based on fat content) or would be Super Restricted:
Vanilla Almond Crunch,
Mixed Berry Bliss,
Peanut Butter Supreme,
Peanut Butter & Jelly,
White Chocolate Raspberry,
Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough

All of the other Quest bars would be restricted. There are two that fall right on the edge (Choc Peanut butter & Strawberry Cheesecake). Fat cals are under 1/3 (but not way under) and they both have 8 g carbs. I'd still call them restricted.

Originally Posted by trishthayer

I have decided to lower my goal weight, and I did it 145. This is still a little high when you go by those ideal weight charts but I want to be in the "normal" BMI. The problem is as an adult, or even a teenager, I have never weighed so little. How have you guys come up with your goal weights?
As a side note I did use that dukan calculator also and that had me at 152. Interesting the Dukan calculator

I've played with my goal weight up/down 5 lbs & decided to leave it alone for now. I picked "barely in normal BMI" for my first goal.
I'd suggest leaving it be until you are "there" and then deciding based on how you look & feel. I bet the Dukan calculator is more accurate. We definitely want to get to a weight that is maintainable!

[shannonhs]

I just tried the Dukan Calculator and it says my goal weight should be 145, so slightly higher than my actual goal weight. Interesting - something to keep in mind. I think I'll keep my goal weight for now and perhaps adjust as I get closer.

[trishthayer]

Thanks everyone for your input. Maybe my goal weight needs to be a little higher but I think I will take Lisa's advice for now and wait till I get there to decide. It is so hard to know what is "healthy" when you have been LARGE your whole life. I am so excited because I can wear a 14, years ago I would have stopped at this point. It is a entire new way to think and see myself.

[trishthayer]

Originally Posted by slownsteady

We are the same height, not sure about age, but I also have 145 as my goal, which is midway on the "ideal weight for height" scale, so that is how I came up with that number. But I also agree that more than what the scale says will be how I look and feel, as the body shape changes with IP (really lose those fat stores). It also depends on if you build muscle through exercise along the way - as muscle is going to be heavier than fat so if you are a 'muscular' person, you will naturally weigh more than another who looks to be the same size as you.

And what is the Dukan calculator?

I am 41, pains me to write that, lol!!!
The dukan calculator is a way for people on his diet to find their goal weight. Google it, it's worth looking at. It takes in lots of factors to decide your goal weight.

[lisa32989]

Originally Posted by trishthayer

Thanks everyone for your input. Maybe my goal weight needs to be a little higher but I think I will take Lisa's advice for now and wait till I get there to decide. It is so hard to know what is "healthy" when you have been LARGE your whole life. I am so excited because I can wear a 14, years ago I would have stopped at this point. It is a entire new way to think and see myself.

Girl, I am THERE with you!
(except, add about 9 more years...)