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Ubee 12-26-2013 03:53 PM

Hi everyone!
It seems when I put off reporting on here I put off my healthy eating until later. I started the day so well too...
I am getting excited for 2014. I plan on joining Nightkatt's next challenge. Our family IS going to all eat healthy with me. (At least when I am around!) I am going to set some financial goals and housekeeping goals. I usually do not make any resolutions but this year count me in.
How is everyone doing?

Fiona W 12-26-2013 04:47 PM

I'm doin' pretty good. I just went for a walk! The trail where I walk—when I'm doing it, which I haven't been—was pretty muddy, so it wasn't as enjoyable as it might have been. But I got in a good half an hour of cardio, so that's an achievement. I'm hoping that exercising will lift my mood, which has been hovering rather more below baseline than I like.

It sounds like all of us are both reflecting on what's happened this past year and getting ready for a good start for 2014... I'm into it!

Ubee— Which challenge is Nightkatt's? Where did you find it?

activeadventurer 12-26-2013 11:42 PM

Ubee

I am up for the next challenge!!!

Dee

Ubee 12-27-2013 09:08 AM

Good morning!
Fi, glad to hear you got out for a walk. The challenge is in the 300+ Club. The current one is the Christmas challenge. Nightkatt said she will divide 2014 into 3 equal challenges to get us through the year. The next one will start on New Years.
Arctic, I look forward to being a big loser with you and all the others!
I am busy finding a new diet. The medical community has come out with new findings regarding autism, and gut bacteria. Anyone interested can google "Mice autism" and they can find the latest. So I have been looking into leaky gut and healing our gut lining, along with supplements/vitamins, fermented foods, probiotics, and of course getting rid of evil carbs and sugars. I hope this starts making it all come together for the medical community also. I will go on it with our daughter since I have massive gut problems. The rest of the family will be on it when they are around us and in the house. Our daughters health and well being is too important to give a half hearted attempt.
How is everyone doing?

betsy2013 12-27-2013 12:19 PM

Good morning, ladies. Nice to see us beginning to get back to posting and renewed commitment to a healthier lifestyle.

Ubee -- I'm with you on making resolutions, and found your research on gut bacteria interesting. Now that obesity has been declared a disease, I'm sure we will finally be getting a lot more research for what causes it and more effective dieting approaches.

Fi -- Good for you on the walk especially with the mud as an impediment. One of my goals is to get to the point where walking further than a quarter mile is possible. Actually, I want to get to the point where I can easily walk about 5 miles.....may take a while.

My BIL's side of the family is having the annual Christmas get together on New Year's Day. I'm seriously thinking about not going just because there's always so much bad food there, and it feels as though I'm starting off the year in a bad way. Of course, I could just take a healthy salad and limit myself to that. Hhhmmm -- maybe that should be one of my resolutions -- stop using "bad food" as an excuse!

silentarctic 12-27-2013 03:40 PM

Hey gals, so time to get back on the healthy horse today. So far, I've had greek yogurt, and whole grain toast with jam, no butter. Not bad, I'm meeting a friend at a restaurant for supper so that is temptation city. I might compromise, a salad but it has chicken finger type things that come with it. I haven't weighed myself recently, I know I need to 'get real' and do that. Maybe tomorrow morning or sunday... refocus.

I think it is okay to be reflective, if we are learning from the past and moving forward. It's a time of year a lot of people are in that headspace. Yet another year over and wondering where it went... or at least I am. I need to come up with some goals, not necessarily new years resolutions but going with the flow hasn't really worked for me so far. If I make goals and fail at least I... know I tried rather than being completely passive about my life.

Ubee 12-27-2013 04:49 PM

Betsy, you are our poster girl for the holidays! I really hope you go to your BIL's New Years Christmas. It's just food. Tell it to bugger off you have nephews that need you healthy!
Silent, I am nervous about goals because of the whole failure thing BUT for 2014 I've got a good feeling! Have fun tonight!

Just found out Nightkatts next challenge won't start until the 5th.

Fiona W 12-27-2013 08:20 PM

I actually did what they call an "intermittent fast" today: didn't eat anything for breakfast & lunch, not even cream in my coffee, and then for dinner I had a smoked rainbow trout I've been saving for just such an occasion...no carbs, of course. That is, it's an intermittent fast if you do it once or twice a week—the idea being to knock your caloric intake down without making your metabolism slow. I'm hopin' it will jumpstart my weight loss for the new year. And then if the weather holds—it's been really nice, cool with clear skies—I'll take another walk tomorrow.

silentarctic— Good for you to be choosing the right foods now! I heard about something that's a nice way to have a simple goal for the new year, which is to pick just one word you're going to focus on for the whole of 2014. People pick words, for example, like "mindful" or "discipline." I've decided that since I want to be moving more, I'm going to go with a verb: my word is going to be choose. Whatever I eat, whatever I do in the way of exercise, whatever I work on, I'm going to choose it. I know it's a little blah, but it's a way of being less passive, as you say. What do y'all think of that idea, of having your goal be one word?

Betsy— I'm with Ubee: you could go to that New Year's day party, and view it as an opportunity to eat healthy. Tell the rest of the food that it doesn't order you around. If taking a salad and sticking to eating only your salad is the way to do that, then go for it!

Ubee— That's great about your doing research to get the right diet for you and your daughter both! Thanks for the info about Nightkatt's challenge.

Dee— 'Love your positive energy!

Ubee 12-28-2013 08:10 AM

Good morning!
Fi, what did you think of your fast?
My word for 2014 is Serenity.
I feel ill. I am so back in the saddle. I have gotten some input from my medical team. (Smart family/friends) and they say the GAPS diet is too extreme so we will be doing the diet in the book Grain Brain. It is similar to Atkins I think? It is low carb, and gluten free.
How is everyone doing?

betsy2013 12-28-2013 12:52 PM

Good morning, ladies. I'm sure the sun has come up, but what a cloudy, dreary day. Just part of the weather here, but definitely not a mood lifter.

SilentArctic -- Good for you for getting into the swing of things NOW. I'm with you. I think that waiting until New Year's to "refresh" is just me making an excuse to avoid staying on plan. Hope you enjoy your dinner with your friend tonight. And once you set your goals, we're all here to help you celebrate reaching them.

Ubee -- OK, off to the party. The Grain Brain sounds interesting although going low carb and gluten free would be a challenge for many. Don't think of those goals as potential failures -- think of them as challenges like the one you're getting ready to join. And I love serenity as your word for 2014 -- evokes such wonderful images.

Fi -- I love intermittent fasting -- have pretty much given up having breakfast and find that it helps me with sticking within my calorie and carb range. Now if I can just get more disciplined with the stop eating at a set time!

Does anyone roast pork tenderloins? They come two to a package, and the meat is so tender. Plus, I found that doing one in one marinade and the second one in a separate marinade means I've got ready cooked meals available. It's even good cold. The kids sent me home with the ham bone from their Christmas Eve celebration with my niece's side of the family. Eventually I'll make ham salad for my BIL and some bean soup. Not exactly low calorie, but beans are a good protein source and without the corn bread, it's a healthy meal even if high carb. Plus it freezes so well. Time to get it in gear. Have a great day.

silentarctic 12-28-2013 02:41 PM

Fi : Much like the clutter in my life, I don't know if I can declutter my thoughts to distill things down to a simple word. that's probably the laziness talking and to all of you that can do that, it assuredly is more elegant than a long checklist of things but I need more... concrete spelled out goals for myself.

Ubee - well I don't know about "big" loser. I'll be happy not to gain and small losses.

betsy well I intend to. I do keep getting side tracked... and giving into cravings I am always a work in progress. I had creamer in my coffee this AM hopefully I can use the caffiene to get going on some stuff I have been making excuses not to deal with. I've neglected the house for the past week while I had the dog to babysit walk. So now that that excuse is gone time to chip away at some of that I guess.

Fiona W 12-28-2013 06:02 PM

This day for me has been a lesson in how I push exercise so far to the back burner of my activities, it falls right off the back of the stove.

I started out this morning with the thought, "I want to walk again today, because I walked for the first time (in a long time) two days ago, then allowed a day of rest for my body to recover from the shock. It's a nice clear day, so let's do it!" So far so good, I thought. Actually, though, my plan was too vague: I didn't set a definite time to take my walk, not even a time of day. Nor did I have walking at the top of my priority list.

And it's ironic, because I started out the day by re-reading the section on exercise in Brooke Castillo's If I Am So Smart, Why Can't I Lose Weight? Castillo is a "weight loss coach," and she was talking about all her clients, the women that is, who are in the mode of give-give-give to everyone in their family, but can't find the time to give to themselves the exercise their bodies need. She describes a woman who, thanks to Castillo's coaching, actually made her husband and children delay their departure on a planned family outing by half an hour, while she got in her exercise for the day. The woman said to Castillo, "I felt so selfish—it was terrible!" Castillo has a good reply to that: "Empty pitchers can't pour out any love."

So I thought to myself, "Well I don't have that excuse, because I don't have a family to take care of. If I don't walk today, it will be because I resisted it for some other reason." Sure enough, though, I've been busy-busy-busy all day long with things I'm doing for other people online. So while I think of myself as not having anyone depending on me—except a husband with treatment-resistant depression, of course (!)—in fact I often get into situations in my work life online, where I'm giving to others. And sure enough, by the time I got my head above water from all the writing I did today, the sun had set, and I'd missed my chance to walk.

With my daily leg exercises, by contrast, I have a definite time slot in which I do them. I eat dinner, then some time around 7 PM, turn on the satellite radio to my favorite rock-n-roll station. I lie on the couch listening for a while, then kick off the quilt and do my leg lifts. They started out because I was rehabbing an injured knee, then continued because I like how much easier it is to climb the stairs, compared to before I started the exercises. I don't even have to consciously think, "I need to do my leg exercises," because the time of day and the music just cue me.

So how can I get my walks in? Do I set up a definite time, either the night before or that morning? Castillo says you should write it out as an appointment in your daily planner, and keep that appointment with the same "I must do this" attitude as for an appointment with someone you absolutely will not let down. I don't know....being retired, I'm leery of making appointments. I'm in a creative mode—go with the flow, see what happens. But that, as silentarctic pointed out, can so easily turn into passivity.

Do any of y'all have similar issues with making yourself exercise? What do you notice about your thought process? Do you have any tips for how to make it happen?

silentarctic 12-28-2013 07:13 PM

Fi I need a schedule or I don't do it. For me I work out of the home so I DO get a walk TO work and a walk home minimum everyday. However above and beyond that I need to stick to a routine and if I deviate from that or I let myself off the hook i fall out of the routine. I did best with M-W-F aerobics classes, this year the instructors needed them moved to a T-Th-F and that really messed me up because for 3 years its been M-W-F and I've built my life around that. Honestly I would just pick a time of day that you can do all the time, and short of extraordinary circumstances, like a hurricane, or a flu... you do it every day... vary the intensity perhaps but always show up. Showing up is half the battle when it comes to making excercise routine.

For me this is key, exercise isn't about lbs lost. It is a health goal independent of the scale. While losing weight makes some activities easier (hills, stairs, anything that involves jumping) i don't let being obese stop me. No one is too fat to live an active lifestyle. :-D I feel very strongly about this topic.

alaskanlaughter 12-29-2013 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fiona W (Post 4902788)
Had a crappy day for physical reasons: thanks to my flu shot, I presume, I didn't get the full-blown flu by any means, but I woke up kind of under the weather and with a truly annoying myalgia (muscle pain) in my right thigh. It was almost as if my right quadriceps muscle got the flu, but none of the rest of me did. It lasted about 8 hours and was the cause of much foul language & irritability, but is all gone now, and I feel back to normal. =grin=

Donna and Ubee asked about pagans and Yule traditions, so I will endeavor to explain a bit. Paganism and pagans are very broad terms for people who worship in a revival of the ways (such as we know them) of any of the pre-Christian religions of the world. There are as many types of pagans as there were/are different cultures with religious practices, but most contemporary pagans practice nature-centered religions, and are both animistic and polytheistic. In the US and the UK, pagans are most commonly wiccans or druids, or other folk with nature-centered religions of Western Europe, of which the the Celtic tradition is the strongest. ("Wiccan" is an outsider-friendly term for "witch": wiccans/witches can be both female and male.) The ancient Celts were a highly developed civilization spread across the British Isles and western Europe, especially France. They were encountered and battled by the Romans, who built their famous Roman roads right on top of the Celtic roads that were already there. Then the invadng Christians tried to convert the Celts, or if not, to wipe them out. This led to much animosity and bargaining between Church leaders and the druids, the priest class of the Celts, and ultimately to the infamous witchcraft persecutions over many hundreds of years, which contemporary pagans call The Burning Times. It's our Holocaust and pogroms, if you will.

The Christian church attempted to attract people to Christianity by building Christian holidays right on top of the eight Celtic High Holidays, the most successful of which has been Christmas, built on top of Yule. The Celtic Yule traditions, which date back a very long time before the birth of Christ, included decorating trees, inside and outside, large Yule logs in home fireplaces, feasting, drinking of hot cider and mulled wine, exchange of wrapped gifts, rituals to honor the return of the sun (the beginning of lengthening days after the Winter Solstice), and going from door to door in groups, singing and doing amateur dramatic performances. Contemporary France still has a Yule tradition of serving large rolled cakes in the shape of Yule logs, decorated with brown icing like bark, marzipan mushrooms, etc. But Yule is not the most important High Holiday from a spiritual point of view: that is Samhain (Hallowe'en), with the second most important being Beltaine (May Day).

Bob and I are druids, a religion derived from what we know about the ancient druids. Druidism has many points of similarity with Wicca, although their rituals (ceremonies on High Holidays & other important occasions) are different. We have a few personal Yule traditions which originated in the druid grove (witches gather in covens, druids gather in groves) we were in from 1991 to 2009. (Bob was the senior druid, the leader of the grove, for nine of those years.) We call our Yule tradition "the longest night's vigil." It starts with a ritual & a party, of course, starting at sundown on the Winter Solstice, with food & drink & presents. Actual druid groves gather in circles in wooded areas for formal high holiday rituals to honor the gods & goddesses of the season. I already mentioned the Yule log cakes, and there are other traditional Yule foods, Ubee, one of which is oatcakes, but I'm not a cook or a foodie, so I'm not up on that aspect of the holiday. As it gets later in the evening, we gather around the roaring fire, socialize, tell stories, and basically hold a vigil, by staying up all night (as much as humanly possible). When it's just starting to get light, we bundle up and go outside, and watch the sunrise, cheering and waving and doing whatever else comes to mind to greet the return of the sun and the beginning of lengthening days.

Since our senior druid (after Bob) died of metastatic breast cancer in 2009, our grove has scattered to the winds, so for the time being, it's just Bob & me at our Yule celebration. We sometimes attend rituals and "revels" (the feast/party after a ritual) with a grove in Baltimore, but mostly for Samhain (Hallowe'en), not for a lesser holiday like Yule.

I know my attempt at a summary of these very large topics probably raises more questions than it answers, but there's tons of info on the Web, if you google things like Yule, wicca, druidism, and ancient Celts.

thank you for sharing! I was skimming through groups (although I don't belong in this group) and I loved all that info! I'm so fascinated by all forms of nature-based(?) worship....is that the right word? i'm not even sure...

mountain walker 12-29-2013 07:41 AM

Hi everybody......have you missed me?
Well Christmas has passed with the usual overeating and under moving and the obligatory dose of something involving a good deal of coughing and nasal secretions and here we are the other side!
My wonderful daughter bought me some fabulous presents...all centred on making me make an effort with my apearance and stop feeling ( and thereby looking) like a bag lady! Hubby had bought me a hairdryer so now I have no excuse and yes......have even painted my toenails and fingernails.
It may sound odd but I am almost glad Christmas season is nearly over and back to normal. I am taking nightkatt's challenge and have an exercise allowance in my weekly budget!
Thank you all so much for the words of encouragement about middle age. I am having trouble coming to terms with it! I have a few ieas to improve my overall positivity but would appreciate any ideas from my lovely cyber friends!


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