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flbeaches 08-08-2008 07:29 PM

sushi
 
Hi everyone:
I am new to the core program and had a question about sushi

If a sushi restaurant does brown rice...and say you order tuna and avacado..would that all be core?


thanks and crossing my fingers it would be!!!

sookiegirl 08-08-2008 07:59 PM

I really don't know the answer to your question although I have frequently heard and read that eating sushi is a dangerous health risk. I am a sushi lover and regularly take my chances.

TJFitnessDiva 08-08-2008 08:43 PM

lol that would be all Core :) So enjoy!

Iconised Ghost 08-09-2008 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sookiegirl (Post 2308110)
I really don't know the answer to your question although I have frequently heard and read that eating sushi is a dangerous health risk. I am a sushi lover and regularly take my chances.

why is it dangerous? I heard it is very good for you

Apple Cheeks 08-09-2008 06:43 AM

Maybe she is hinting about the dangers of mercury poisoning. :?:

But I don't think it's really that big of a risk unless you eat sushi all the time.

I, for one, can't afford to do that so it's only a weekly treat for me. :)

Iconised Ghost 08-09-2008 06:49 AM

wouldnt there only be a risk of mercury poisoning if you had fish in your sushi too?

GradPhase 08-09-2008 07:09 AM

I thought there was mercury threat in seafood like shrimp too?

And I also read something about how women who are pregnant aren't supposed to eat sushi because you can get a parasite from it.

As far as I'm concerned it's all old wives tales. I'm not a sushi eater - but I am interested in seeing what people have to say about those issues, now!

chickennugget126 08-09-2008 10:43 AM

I'm from Japan and we had sushi all the time... never once have I heard that eating sushi can be "dangerous" until I moved to the U.S. There are lots of other cultures that eat raw fish, as well, and have been doing so for many, many years.
If you're pregnant, yes, stay away from anything that might have mercury in it, just like you'd stay away from alcohol and certain other foods.

CandyKisses0204 08-09-2008 10:49 AM

I believe there are also higher mercury contents in the fish in the US then over in Japan. When i visited my brother (he was station there in the marines) we ate sushi almost every day. Fish is very healthy for you, but the same for everything goes too much of a good thing can be bad. Personally i htink unless you are eating raw fish (not sushi) every day of your life for every meal then it has the potentiol to be harmful. There is a wonderful japanese place that makes whole raw fish plates that many of my friends enjoy a few times a week.

BlondeAmbition08 08-09-2008 02:28 PM

What's the core program?

I love sushi and regularly used to eat it for lunch. But now eating low carb I don't eat rice, so no sushi for me. Sashimi would work, but that's a bit expensive to eat for lunch. :)

Iconised Ghost 08-09-2008 04:57 PM

i prefer chicken sushi over seafood anyway, so i guess im safe :D unless its in the seaweed too?

i am still trying 08-09-2008 09:28 PM

yes, can someone explain the core program, never heard of it.
Also, sushi is dangerous for pregnant women, but what about the carb content. I always feel good about my choice if I eat sushi but I think sometimes that I am kidding myself b/c I often get tempura sushi, or spicy salmon (with lots of mayo in the roll) etc.
hmmmm, is sushi a good choice?

kaplods 08-09-2008 10:35 PM

It's generally the risk of food born illness (bacteria and parasites, primarily) that is discussed in regard to sushi. However, while fresh water fish shouldn't be eaten raw, because of the risk of parasites; the parasite risk in saltwater fish is minimal, especially with modern handling laws.

The US food sanitation laws are much stricter (more based in paranoia than fact) than in most countries, and we warn and protect people against even the slightest risk. Like the risk of eating undercooked eggs and meat. It's a real risk, but minimal, and unless your immune system is severely compromised; bacteria and food born illnesses such as e.coli and salmonella are rarely serious (though you can get an unpleasant evening of diarrhea).
This is true of the sushi "risk" as well. If you're in decent health, your risk is minimal.

If you've ever had a "24 hour flu," you can bet that it wasn't the flu or any other virus, but rather a bacterial infection, usually food poisoning.

And for those who are paranoid about such matters, select sushi with no raw fish ingredients (california rolls, cucumber rolls, etc).

One thing to remember about sushi, is that sushi refers to the seasoned rice, not the presence of raw fish. Sushi does not have to contain raw fish, or any fish at all; and of course if it contains no raw ingredients, it would be safe for pregnant women and people with compromised immune systems (who might want to avoid raw ingredients as an extra precaution).

lifechange 08-09-2008 11:20 PM

I love sashimi!

There are many misconceptions re food poisoning vs "stomach flu". True food poisoning is rare. The "stomach flu" is common caused by bacteria, or viruses or even parasites getting into your stomach via hands etc, it is rare that it is due to food gone bad. Food poisoning is a very sudden onset and very intense- if you have had it or seen someone who has had it you would immediately know the difference. It feels and looks like your body is being turned inside out.

Re Sushi Rice- white rice approx 30 cal, 8 carbs, .5 g protein no fat per piece. No question brown rice would be a better choice.
Fish is great high protein, low fat no carbs ie salmon 3 pieces less than 100 cal 17 g protein, 4 g fat. You do have to be careful with quantities and as far as the rolls go they can add up and the spicy rolls tend to have more mayo in it than you would think.

kaplods 08-10-2008 12:05 AM

Hmm, it was my doctor who told me that many people have had salmonella and e.coli and other foodborn illnesses without knowing it, assuming it was the "24 hour flu." He said that healthy people often have very mild symptoms to such bacteria, saying that no true influenza or even most viruses would exhibit symptoms of such short duration.

He said foodborn bacteria was very common, though unlikely to be a serious health concern for anyone with a healthy immune system. Unpleasant, but an inconvenience more than a serious health hazzard.

Perhaps he was oversimplifying for me,

Annita 08-10-2008 01:08 AM

i personally think that, unless you eat sushi made with raw food (raw veggie, raw meat etc), then the chance of getting poisoning is slightly low.

kaplods 08-10-2008 01:34 AM

I think my posts may have been misinterpreted, as I was really trying to say that not only is the risk minimal to eating raw sushi (and virtually no risk, if you avoid the raw) that even if a person has a problem, it's most likely to be a very mild one, unless they have a compromised immune system (in which case their doctor probably would have warned them of what they needed to avoid).

I tend to be quite bold, when it comes to food, and I've never had a problem that caused anything more than a mild annoyance. While I'm not as adventurous as Anthony Bourdain on his show "No Reservations," or Andrew Zimmern on his "Bizarre Foods," but I have a bit of the same philosophy. A little exercise for the immune system is probably a good thing.

Not that I tempt fate. If I'm in a restaurant that doesn't have the sushi prepared out in the open - I tend to avoid it. On buffets I also avoid the raw sushis, because I don't know how long they've been sitting out. I also learned (after one bad experience) to never have sushi on the "sushi special" night - this is usually the night before the fresh fish comes in the next day.

I regularly eat eggs over-easy and soft boiled, and meat medium rare (hubby made me a convert, as I was raised in home where "well-done" was the norm). I eat raw sushi quite often, and I even recently tried a raw beef thai dish, laab (which can also be made with cooked beef). They cannot serve it in the restaurant raw because of food sanitation laws, but they are able to sell it raw to take home. It's a beef salad, and I have to say it was pretty good. Though it was hard to overcome my "well-done" upbringing. Raw tuna is a lot more palatable to me than raw beef. Still, I was surprised that I liked it.

When I first tried the raw tuna sushis, I was sure that I wouldn't like it, but they really blew my expectations out of the water. I expected it to feel slimy or clammy and expected a fishy taste. Instead, it almost "melts" in your mouth. It's hard to explain, but it's almost creamy, and very mild. I was astonished. My absolute favorite sushi though is eel in a sweet soy sauce. The eel is cooked and glazed with a sweet soy marinade, sometimes it's called "barbecued eel," in the discription. I had a handroll a few weeks ago that was so good. The nori sheet was rolled into a cone, and rice, the hot grilled barbecued eel and cucumber sticks were rolled inside. Eel has a very flaky texture and mild, slightly sweet taste (even if there is no sauce).





The owner showed us the beef it is made from, and it is prime beef from the back that has absolutely no fat on it. It is quite an expensive cut of meat, and comes deep frozen - much like they freeze tuna to prepare it for sushi.

Apple Cheeks 08-10-2008 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lifechange (Post 2309463)
Food poisoning is a very sudden onset and very intense- if you have had it or seen someone who has had it you would immediately know the difference. It feels and looks like your body is being turned inside out.

Been there, done that. Have the emergency room bills to prove it. :barf:

Even the thought of eating at the place where I know I got food poisoning....(shudder). Well, it still turns my stomach and that happened last year! I will never, ever eat there again. I can't even drive by the restaurant without my tummy giving a lurch.


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