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ubergirl 01-21-2012 11:39 AM

Regainers Relosing. Get it off AGAIN!
 
Ok chickies, you know who you are.

If you are regainer struggling to relose, let this thread be for us. I'm discovering already that somehow the mindset of a reloser is not the same as the first time around.

Big regain, little tune-up... whatever it is... let's band together to find a way to stick with it AGAIN, and maybe learn some new lessons that will help us keep it off for good.

duckyyellowfeet 01-21-2012 12:05 PM

Goodness, I'm absolutely in.

I feel like being a "regainer, reloser" is just more frustrating and less joyful. I hit new lower numbers and just think "Well, this is still 40 lbs. higher than where I was...whats to be excited about?" While I know I have to switch this mindset, I'm not ready to stop being mad at myself yet.

Still, excellent thread idea. I'm excited :)

Vladadog 01-21-2012 12:59 PM

I'm here, another regretful regainer. Or another recommitted reloser!

I only (only!) regained 35 pound but i could just kick myself. I really thought i'd never see 200 again and now I'm right where i was 13 months ago...

So far my recommitment seems to be going pretty good for me. I haven't really worked exercise back in to my routine yet but I've cut out the junk food and reacquainted myself with my scale. I'm in a bit of a funk that has nothing to do with my weight gain but i'm hopeful that the healthy food and exercise will help with the emotional doldrums.

Thanks for starting this Ubergirl!!!

ubergirl 01-21-2012 01:04 PM

Hi Ducky and Vlada...

I think the mindset must be the most difficult part of it....

I still remember the part of my journey where I was so excited to be slim, not the part when I was struggling to get started. I think I just can't believe that I restarted almost two weeks ago and am still bouncing around 260.

I really thought I would just sort of blink and go right back to around 220 or so. HA!

Justwant2Bhealthy 01-21-2012 01:16 PM

GOOD IDEA to start a thread about this very common experience; and, you are so right about it being a totally different mindset the second, or third, or gosh knows how many times around. Ya, and it can feel like a battle; a war even, at times. There were some great ideas from the posters in your last thread about this topic too ...

You know, that is exactly how I found this site in the first place. I had lost a goodly amount of weight; and after one particularly off Christmas, I was having trouble getting back on track. I had appeared to regain 12 lbs even though I was still working towards my goal (of course, some of that was actually water weight), but I was very discouraged by that just the same.

Btw, I had regained lost weight (with some friends) many times before this. I recall vividly how I felt each time I regained the weight before; especially the embarrassment & having to buy larger size clothes. :cry: I was so disappointed in myself becuz I wanted to make this a permanent thing this time, but I found that it was so easy to slip up. I now call this one of my BLIPS along the way.

Yes, I knew about the mistakes; and that I had to keep going, but the unexpected regain surprised me -- it threw me for a loop. The stalls and plateaus were bothing me too. It was harder to lose weight at this point in my life becuz of some physical challenges that I didn't have when I was younger. So, I had to find answers to all of these issues too; plus for the emotional-response eating which was a biggie for me as well.

So what have I learned through all of this so far? I may have been discouraged & disappointed, but I was not defeated ...

1 -- Don't give up, no matter what: Quitting is not an option
2 -- decide to re-commit (each day, if needs be)
3 -- keep diggin'; keep tryin'; keep fightin'; keep going
4 -- take small steps back: one-day-at-a-time
5 -- make adjustments: tweak, tweak, tweak
6 -- plan to stay on plan: no excuses
7 -- focus on the positive: all the successes
8 -- find new strategies & solutions
9 -- understand the process: the ups & downs & flats
10 -- determination + persistence + perseverance wins the prize!

Oh btw, I lost that 12 lbs and continued on down to where I am now. I still have a ways to go to reach where I want to be ... and, I now realize that this must be a continuous process; it's not a band-aide solution, but a life-long journey for permanent good health.

patchworkpenguin 01-21-2012 01:28 PM

I'm in.

Uber, thanks for starting this thread.

Beverlyjoy 01-21-2012 01:53 PM

I've been a loser and regainer most of my life. I got from a low of 195 -back up to 235 & then I started relosing again a while back. (going up and down a few times) I can identify with all that we/you are saying. I am at my ticker weight!

So what will be different this time? How can we make it THE time to lose it. I think for me, it has to do with accepting that it will be a daily endeavor for the rest of my life. It's a daunting thought. I am on my way down again. Taking it one day at a time.

I can tell you one thing (you all know it, probably) any number on the scale looks a lot better on the way down, rather than on the way up!

PS - one thing that has helped me is that I have anchored myself to the gratitude thread. Even if I am gaining, I have committed to still come and post there daily. That way I still have a reason to come here every day.

Michi702 01-21-2012 02:36 PM

I never lost a ton to begin with, but for my last 2 serious forays into dieting, I lost 10 - 15 pounds and then it all came back with a vengeance... I'm trying to take it slow and actually exercise this time around.

For me, I have trouble finding balance - either I don't think at all about what I eat, or I obsess and drive myself nuts and then end up stress eating after a month or two :( This time I've decided to visit 3FC sparsely and to not jump right back with full gusto. I'm going slow so hopefully this time will work out better...

Eliana 01-21-2012 02:36 PM

I kind of thought the first 10 would come off easily, but no. My mindset is a little different in that I care a little less.

I'm in!

Arctic Mama 01-21-2012 02:38 PM

I'm not sure if I fit here or not! I did have a slow ten pound regain over about six months from last summer to winter, but I've gotten it off and am well into virgin fat territory. Am I still allowed to hang out with you guys even though I've been back on track longer?

On the upside, I can offer encouragement - a regain does NOT mean you cannot lose the additional weight and MORE without much struggle, it just means you took a little detour ;)

WildThings 01-21-2012 03:26 PM

I'm in too! Losing and gaining has been the story of my life. This week has been a little slow moving (I've had a cold which has thrown a wrench in my master plan), but it's at least moving in the right direction.

thistoo 01-21-2012 04:39 PM

I regained 68 pounds over the course of a year or so. I guess I'm grateful that I didn't regain *every* pound, but man, am I disappointed in myself. Mostly I'm disappointed that I stayed in denial long enough to make it back over 200.

Like Eliana, I'd hoped I could get a woosh of 5-10 pounds at the beginning, but alas, it was not to be. I'm one pound down after about two weeks back on plan, and I've really kicked my workouts back into high gear, so things are starting to shift already. I need to really clean up my diet in order to see the weight move, though, and that's proving to be the tricky part for me. I'm considering doing Whole 30 just to jump-start things.


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Originally Posted by Beverlyjoy (Post 4182404)
So what will be different this time? How can we make it THE time to lose it. I think for me, it has to do with accepting that it will be a daily endeavor for the rest of my life. It's a daunting thought. I am on my way down again. Taking it one day at a time..

Beverly, I remember that we were both racing toward onederland at the same time last time around. While I'm not happy to see any of us struggling, it's nice to see familiar faces on the relosing journey.

You make a good point about shifting our mindset from 'diet' to 'lifelong commitment'. When I got down to 150 I started *looking* normal to myself in the mirror for the first time, and thinking of myself as 'normal' gave me permission to get more and more lax about my diet until finally I had to face up to a major regain.

shadowclaw 01-21-2012 05:02 PM

This thread is for me! All of my past dieting/exercising attemps have resulting in a regain with a good amount of extra pounds on top.

The first time I ever really lost weight was in high school. I exercised more and ate better, and while I only lost maybe 20 pounds, I went from a size 22 to a 16/14 (depends on the brand and style).

I ended up gaining a lot of weight after going to college and got up to 260ish before commiting to dieting. I dieted for a month or two and lost maybe 15 pounds, then lost steam and went up to 270.

The next time I tries a diet was less than a year later, and I committed to excercising daily at the school gym and eating better, and I got back down to about 245. Once the semester was over, I didn't have access to the gym and didn't go back to the gym once the spring semester started and eventually I found myself up to 302.

This time, I'm losing it and keeping it off! No excuses!

K9Owner 01-21-2012 05:07 PM

3rd Times A Charm--which is where my blog got its name!

Yep! 3rd time--same 20 lbs in 19 yrs. This time it is DEFO harder to lose & this dang plateau--UGH! it's for the friggin birds!!!

Beverlyjoy 01-21-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by thistoo (Post 4182589)

Beverly, I remember that we were both raising toward onederland at the same time last time around. While I'm not happy to see any of us struggling, it's nice to see familiar faces on the relosing journey.

You make a good point about shifting our mindset from 'diet' to 'lifelong commitment'. When I got down to 150 I started *looking* normal to myself in the mirror for the first time, and thinking of myself as 'normal' gave me permission to get more and more lax about my diet until finally I had to face up to a major regain.

Hi Thistoo... I remember when we were holding hands and jumping into Onederland, yes. I got down to 195 and then back to 232 (or so) - so I am losing again. You know... we did this once - we CAN do it again.

I think we MUST make life long changes in how we 'live' with food. Food sanity is what I am striving for.

Ciao 01-21-2012 06:40 PM

i'm definitely in. (:

kuchick 01-21-2012 06:46 PM

I'm here, too - back up 15 pounds and never reached goal. Doesn't everyone seem to say that taking a break speeds up weight loss? - nope, hasn't happened. Doesn't help that my restart happened during my typical stall 2 weeks. My mindset sounds the same as many - lost a pound?, so what, I was here one year ago today and should have been done by now. I need to change that and get excited about losing again.

Anyone mind if I post my daily weigh-in here for my records? It helps me stay accountable to at least not regain more.

thistoo 01-21-2012 07:16 PM

This afternoon my sister (also my workout partner) brought me a book she'd made of some old pictures from when I'd gotten down to 150, along with some pictures from this Thanksgiving. Wow, I thought I was still *huge* the first time around, but I actually looked really good. It's certainly good incentive to keep going.

patchworkpenguin 01-21-2012 07:33 PM

Thistoo, I have a college of pictures on my sewing room wall of me at my highest and two of me at my 'goal'.

Michi, I agree that balance is important. I've tried many different plans/styles of weightloss but what works for others my body sneers at:(, I've discovered that for me my mindset is as important as what I'm actually doing. If I'm mentally in a bad place, feeling overwhelmed, deprived, and unhappy it doesn't matter how hard I try or what I do, I'm not going to lose anything, and if I somehow accidently lose something its just going to come right back. which seems to be my main problem I lose 5lbs then it comes right back.

Beverlyjoy, good to see you here



I have an NSV to report. I lost 10lbs over the past 1.5 months so I was able to buy a smaller sized jean today. 20->18w. Strangely enough my favorite jeans are 18m, which now fit also, proving that sizing is weird!

osaunt 01-21-2012 08:16 PM

Another regainer here ready to get back on the losing track. Last year I lost 40 lbs and was approaching onderland when I started to struggle. My weight loss stalled for a couple months, but I knew I had been straying from my plan and was grateful to be at least able to maintain my loss. Then I went on a three month binge that was truly frightening. I started justifying fast food because I was "tired", desserts multiple times a day because I was "stressed", stopped weighing myself, drinking soda etc. It just was just a major, extended pity party and to this day I'm not sure what triggered it. One thing I am grateful for is that I had given away all my larger sized clothing. It was pretty impossible to sustain my denial as my clothes became uncomfortably snug:( I finally braved the scale and I was up 16 pounds. *sigh* In the last couple months I've able stop the out of control binging and have lost three pounds. But I'm still struggling to find my way. Thank you ubergirl for starting this thread - we can do this!

Beverlyjoy 01-21-2012 08:27 PM

Hi Patchwork Penguin! Nice to see you too. Congrats on your weightloss and smaller pants!!!

Sounds like we have some folks here ready to get serious!

shadowclaw 01-21-2012 10:18 PM

Just wanted to drop by and share a bit of excitement...

I was picking out clothes for tomorrow when I noticed a pair of jeans hanging in my closest that I haven't fit into for years. They were my favorite jeans when I fit into them. They were only a little bit too small last time I remembered trying to squeeze into them, so I thought, what the heck? Well, I tried them on... and they fit perfectly! I also found a pair of black pants that I fit into when I started working at Pizza Hut, and considering I'm only 3 pounds above that weight, I decided to try those on, too. And guess what... they fit perfectly, too!

I'm so excited! I haven't been at this weight in over three years.

patchworkpenguin 01-21-2012 10:47 PM

I like to post my meals, exercise and thoughts on the day, so here goes...

Sat Jan 21
B= 2 c milk, vits, 2 slices homemade cinnamon bread french toast, syrup, 1 slice bacon, 1 mug coffee
L= 1/2 Commissary BBQ sand, beans, 1 deviled egg, few sips of Hubby's coffee
S= 5 Dove + 2 TB PB
D= 2 slices leftover homemade meatball pizza, 1 choc truffle
E= none {April didn't get her dog walk, it was raining}

Right= splitting BBQ with Hubby; spreading my meals thoughout the day

Regret= probably would have been just as happy with 1 slice toast; no exercise but I could have done a DVD.

Shadow, great job on fitting into your pants.

Underwater 01-22-2012 03:35 AM

I'm so happy you started this thread! in 2008, I went from 260 to 230. Went on vacation and stuffed my face and I guess just gave up at that point. To be honest, I don't really remember :(

Got on the scale Christmas Day and weighted in at 265. UGH... gained back all my hard work and another 5 lbs on top of it.

Does anyone else feel like they are working especially hard to get back to where they were? The last time I lost this weight it look 10 weeks to lose almost 20 lbs. I think about 18 or so. So far I've lost 11 lbs in 3 weeks and hoping it will be 13 or 14 lbs in 4 weeks since I weigh tomorrow!

I started college in 2002 somewhere between 210 & 220 lbs. Went on a crazy diet and got to about 190 before meeting a great guy and packing on the pounds when I was with him. So really, this is my 3rd attempt to get to a normal weight.

I'm not expecting to ever be a skinny girl, but if I could get to 175, I know I'd look and feel great and can reevaluate my long term goal then :)

thistoo 01-22-2012 09:18 AM

Underwater, I've only lost two pounds in two weeks so far. It's definitely coming off more slowly this time (which, considering how slowly it came off the first time, is just depressing.)

Maybe once I back in the swing of things it'll start to move a little faster, but I'm pretty much resigned to the slow creep of weight loss this time around. Losing is better than regaining more, however slow.

Eliana 01-22-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by thistoo (Post 4182589)

Like Eliana, I'd hoped I could get a woosh of 5-10 pounds at the beginning, but alas, it was not to be. I'm one pound down after about two weeks back on plan, and I've really kicked my workouts back into high gear, so things are starting to shift already. I need to really clean up my diet in order to see the weight move, though, and that's proving to be the tricky part for me. I'm considering doing Whole 30 just to jump-start things.

This is how I feel. I'm back to feeling like I've put in an awful lot of effort for very little return. Going from a Christmas diet of fudge, chocolates, cakes, and worst of all, all the licks and spoonfuls that come with making the above mentioned treats, to a diet of heavy veggies, fruits and protein and eliminating sweets completely seems like it ought to produce a little weight loss. Add to that heavier morning workouts AND an added one hour walk in the evenings, and I'd like to know where my Biggest Loser losses are! :D

What is Whole 30? I'm curious.

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Originally Posted by kuchick (Post 4182709)
I'm here, too - back up 15 pounds and never reached goal. Doesn't everyone seem to say that taking a break speeds up weight loss? - nope, hasn't happened. Doesn't help that my restart happened during my typical stall 2 weeks. My mindset sounds the same as many - lost a pound?, so what, I was here one year ago today and should have been done by now. I need to change that and get excited about losing again.

Anyone mind if I post my daily weigh-in here for my records? It helps me stay accountable to at least not regain more.

I've always told people who came back with a regain that they were lucky because all they had to do was get back on plan and the weight should just fly off. But here's a whole thread of us telling me that nope, that hasn't worked for us. And yes, my weight loss seems to have started with that dreaded two week stall as well.

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Originally Posted by Underwater (Post 4183034)
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Does anyone else feel like they are working especially hard to get back to where they were? The last time I lost this weight it look 10 weeks to lose almost 20 lbs. I think about 18 or so. So far I've lost 11 lbs in 3 weeks and hoping it will be 13 or 14 lbs in 4 weeks since I weigh tomorrow!

Yes, I feel like I work out especially hard to get back to where I was. This time I pray to make 145 stick! I'm going to try not to get stuck on the fact that 145 is the very top of my healthy range. I was a size 4 at that weight! It's not the number, it's the size. In my previous attempt I had joined this 100 pound club, so that meant I had to lose 100 pounds, right? 90 made it so I shouldn't be part of this club. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Eliana 01-22-2012 12:11 PM

Oh, but on a positive note!! :D

My weight is finally starting to move. I dropped two pounds overnight into yesterday morning. My body decided to let go of the water it had been holding onto.

HealthyMeWannabe 01-22-2012 12:37 PM

Oh, count me in. I've never hit my goal weight, or even come close for that matter. But a couple of years ago I lost 40 pounds and was well on my way to getting there. Then, it seemed like overnight I lost all motivation and gained it all back plus some. It was not what I wanted at all. But I'm back in the mindset and ready to get this weight off!

thistoo 01-22-2012 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eliana (Post 4183351)
What is Whole 30? I'm curious.

It's pretty much like Primal Blueprint, I hear. Basically it's 30 days of only whole foods. You're supposed to cut out all grains, dairy, and legumes. They allow green beans even though they're technically legumes, because they're mostly pod, but peanuts and peanut butter are off limits.

Coffee is okay, but it has to be black. Also off limits are sweeteners of any kind, even artificial, and alcohol. So basically you're eating protein and vegetables, minus corn (grain) and white potatoes (since they have no nutritional value.) I'm not sure if I can do it and still get in 1400 calories a day, but you can have other nuts and nut butters, so that's something.

If I try it out I'll let you know how it goes. I can't start until after Wednesday because I have all-day training at work and I won't be able to control everything that day.

Vivian27 01-22-2012 01:58 PM

I'm definitely in!! Thanks for this thread I definitely need to check in every so often. I've done well but it is difficult to motivate myself at times. I'm not alone and that makes me feel less crappy.

HealthyMeWannabe 01-22-2012 02:36 PM

I just got back from 3 mile walk. I am definitely on my way to making this happen! :D

duckyyellowfeet 01-22-2012 03:00 PM

I feel like the only thing making this easier is that I'm not starting from scratch. I have a file of recipes, my shopping lists prepared and the knowledge to use both already. I cannot imagine restarting again without everything I already have.

Now to re-figure out an exercise schedule. Anyone else finding exercise harder to fit back in?

thistoo 01-22-2012 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by duckyyellowfeet (Post 4183533)
Now to re-figure out an exercise schedule. Anyone else finding exercise harder to fit back in?

I get up early and exercise before work, then again after, so I don't find it hard to fit in. I *do* find it hard to scrape myself out of bed at 5:00 am. There's a gym near my job so if I don't manage to get up early, I can work out on my lunch hour, but it's best for me to get it out of the way first thing.

patchworkpenguin 01-22-2012 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duckyyellowfeet (Post 4183533)

Now to re-figure out an exercise schedule. Anyone else finding exercise harder to fit back in?

Exercise is the one thing I kept up even as I was regaining. I hated school gym class, sports, and competitions but get me by myself with a DVD and I'm happy. But regaining even while I kept up my exercise routine made me realize that for me, what and how much I was eating had more to do with my weight than I thought, I can't just exercise an eat whatever I want, no matter how hard I try. That was a depressing realization for me. :o

Eliana, I think that's what's making it feel harder, compared to how hard I feel I'm working now, the weight I lost before just fell off effortlessly. Not only am I struggling so hard just to get back where I was...I feel I'm working twice as hard for each pound. If I could go back in time and slap myself when I started to regain, I would. But when I hit goal, I thought I was finished, I didn't understand the concept of 'maintainence' so, of course, gradually went back to my old ways.

Eliana 01-22-2012 03:27 PM

I am another who finds diet much harder than exercise. If I could exercise away the pounds I would be model thin. For example... I've walked and run 9 miles today and plan to go back for more as I watch the football games with my son. Nap first!

thistoo 01-22-2012 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Eliana (Post 4183569)
I am another who finds diet much harder than exercise. If I could exercise away the pounds I would be model thin.

Indeed, if only exercise was enough! I kept weight training and working out all the way through my regain, which mitigated the damage I did, but it wasn't enough. And on that note, I am going to go get on the spin bike.

anmitche 01-22-2012 09:01 PM

I, too, have regained. Three years ago I started a weight loss program, and kept it up for nearly two years. The weight was coming off slowly (45 pounds in eighteen months), but it was coming off. Then, I fell off the wagon last fall, and I have gained half of the weight back. It's depressing to think that if I had kept it up, I'd be at or very near my goal by now, even with the very slow progress I was making. I'm sick of being fat, and I hate the way I feel. It's also embarassing to face people who knew I was losing weight and have regained.

Ciao 01-22-2012 09:04 PM

i've been bouncing around 146 - 148 for the last two weeks, and i have to say i'm getting extremely frustrated. ):

ughh. happy thoughts.

Justwant2Bhealthy 01-22-2012 09:15 PM

CAROLINE ~ I think we'd all like to go back and slap ourselves ... seriously. How about this ... :frypan::frypan::frypan:

Oh, I have some nice pics somewhere of myself at 137 & 128 lbs -- and I thought I was still fat then (cuz some jerk made some negative comments to me). I should try to find them, and put them somewhere as a motivational collage too.

Yes, the weight is coming off slower this time but I think that maybe that is OK; maybe we won't gain it back like before. I have kept off 74 lbs for over 5 years now; with that 12 lb blip which I have lost since coming here, I am back to my 86 lbs ... yahoo, I just realized this today when posting in the maintenance libray about keeping the weight off.

That's my big positive for the day; what I have kept off for so long this time ... but I know that I must be ever mindful and continue on; this must be a life-long process for sure. I haven't reached my main goal yet. I'm not done by a long shot, as you can see from where I was before. :rolleyes:

Another positive: I ate very well today; had baked "fried' chicken plus veggies for dinner. Under my calorie count and have some left for a snack if I want one ... :D

K9Owner 01-22-2012 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ciao (Post 4183915)
i've been bouncing around 146 - 148 for the last two weeks, and i have to say i'm getting extremely frustrated. ):

ughh. happy thoughts.

Welcome to my world, but extend that to 6 MONTHS!!!


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