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thinpossible 03-07-2009 10:28 AM

what is wrong with me that I can't keep my commitment?
 
I have not been doing well for the past few weeks. Some days I start out with the best of intentions, and my OP eating starts to wain as the day goes on. Some days I'm off plan all day. Some days I manage to make it on plan the whole day.

I believe changing your eating habits is a matter of commitment. Motivation ebbs and flows, so I can't really rely on it. I know I have to eat well whether I want to or not, but I really suck at doing things I don't want to. Not just eating, but everything. The only way I really do things I don't want to do is if there's some sort of immediate punishment or if it's connected to something else I want. (For example, I pay my bills because I don't want a mar on my credit score, or my electricity shut off.)

I have a hard time making long term goals where the prize is far off. For me looking good and avoiding health problems are the prize for losing weight. Looking good isn't really that important to me. Health is really important to me, but bad health seems so far away it's not something I can really use to keep myself on track. I'm sure I'm in denial about that one, because in my head I know I certainly don't want to put off weight loss until I'm in bad health, and reap all the consequences of that.

Mostly I eat to sooth or relieve anxiety or boredom, and it works. Yes I feel bad later, but in the moment it works. I don't really get that much benefit from eating well. I feel a bit better, but apparently not enough to keep on track.

I feel like such a dunce posting this. I feel like being committed to losing weight should be a no brainer, what is wrong with me that I can't keep my commitment?

fiberlover 03-07-2009 10:47 AM

There isn't anything wrong with you per se, but just the attitude towards a healthy life.
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I know I have to eat well whether I want to or not, but I really suck at doing things I don't want to. Not just eating, but everything. The only way I really do things I don't want to do is if there's some sort of immediate punishment or if it's connected to something else I want.
Being healthy and eating foods that are good for you are a joy and a priviledge! Don't ever think of treating your body with respect as a punishment. The punishment is staying fat. What kind of plan are you following? If you hate what you are doing, there is no way you will stick with it. There is no harm in trying different things until you get the perfect fit. Since you are trying to do something you can maintain for life, it has to be something you want to do.


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I have a hard time making long term goals where the prize is far off.
A lot of people get stuck here, too. What you need to do is have goal stages. Yes, the long-term goal needs to be there, but also set smaller goals. Even something like "Today I am going to eat 5 servings of fruits and veggies". or "Instead of a getting snack from the vending machine, I am going to eat an apple and take a 10 minute walk".
Small goals that you can attain easily will keep your attitude more positive. Plus you can look back and see all that you have accomplished.

Reworking the mind takes just as much care and time as reworking the body. It all goes hand in hand :)

grabec 03-07-2009 10:53 AM

Bless your heart. I so relate to your post. I have exactly the same issues. I have much less problems in the mornings than I do the evenings. I always have a ton of coffee and tea and that caffeine problly helps me in the mornings. Then I try to eat a big salad between 11:30am and noon then I try to eat another salad between 3:30 and 4 in the afternoon. If I eat any later than that no matter what it is I just won't loose any weight. Honestly I just haven't figured out exactly how to get this to work on any regular basis for me. And I really understand your motivation coming and going and everything else you said. A guy who is dealing with a drug problem told me that every day he has to make decision after decision off and on to not use. I guess that is the way eating is too but doing it sometimes is just out of the question. I totally relate to your post and you can email me privately and we can keep in touch if you want.
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Jennelle 03-07-2009 11:28 AM

I think there are a lot of people in your situation. I know I have been there so many times! This is the first time since I was about 20 years old (I'm 41 now) that I've stuck to my New Year's resolution for more than three days! :lol:

I'm definitely in this for the health benefits. My mom was diagnosed with stage IV breast cancer in November, and obesity is a huge risk factor for breast cancer. I don't want my daughter to go through what my sister and I did right after Mom's diagnosis.

Here are some things that have worked for me. Your mileage may vary.

1. Track everything you eat, no matter how small, down to the creamer in your coffee. Note what time of day it was. At the end of the day, look at your list for patterns. I always eat an apple at 3:15-ish to keep me from raiding the fridge when I get home. When I ran out of apples once and had to resort to plums for a few days, my journal gave me the insight that plums really weren't giving me the satiation I needed.

2. Before you eat, ask yourself how hungry you are on a scale of 1-5 (absolutely starving - stuffed like a turkey). Try to never wait so long you're at a 1. The best time to eat is when you're at a 2 or 3. If you want to eat and you're at a 4 or 5, stop and think about why you want to eat. If you still feel like you absolutely have to, then journal it.

3. Remember that you are not perfect. Falling off track does not make you bad, stupid, ugly, fat, a loser, useless, unworthy, unlovable, etc. etc. You are going to stumble from time to time. The point is to learn from it. For the first two weeks or so, I posted an "after action report" after my weekly weigh in. I looked at what I did well, what I didn't do so well, and what changes I planned to make for the next week. It is IMPERATIVE that you do this with an uncritical, matter-of-fact eye. "I noticed that I ate sweets five out of seven days" is acceptable. "I can't believe I am such a loser and have no willpower" is not.

4. Keep your goals small. My doctor cracks me up; he says, "I just want my pound of flesh....a week." :lol: So my first goal is 52 pounds in 52 weeks. That is plenty doable and leaves room for a gain here and there. When you're setting a goal, try not to tie it to something else that's rife with emotional attachment/issues, like a birthday, anniversary, wedding, or high school reunion. (All the guys will be bald and all the cheerleaders will be fat, anyway! ;) )

5. Don't feel like you have to be a twice-a-day gym rat to exercise. Walking is one of the best forms of exercise, and anyone can do it.

You can do this. There's a fine line between being realistically accountable to yourself and beating yourself up. Don't cross it.

{{{{{hugs}}}}}

gymlee 03-07-2009 11:34 AM

[QUOTE=thinpossible;2644216]Mostly I eat to sooth or relieve anxiety or boredom, and it works.[QUOTE]

It's totally understandable you feel that way. Most people do and for most people, food is their drug of choice. But if you look at it as a drug, you also have to look at your need to overeat as an addiction. And just like with any addiction there is a reason behind why you do what you do, a trigger if you will, such as an experience from your childhood you never dealt that is deep seated in your conscious that drives you to deal with your current emotional ups and downs with food. The most important thing to deal with something like that is to go seek out some help and talk to a psychologist about it. A lot of people think the word therapy is a dirty but it's really one of the best ways to get at what drives a person like us with an overeating addiction (and I use the word addiction because it really is just like any other addiction ie alcoholism, drugs, etc) to find out what the root cause is so that we can deal with the issue and make strides so that we can consciously move forward in our lives and not necessarily use food or any other kind of external source of enjoyment to soothe what may be bothering us deep inside.

The other thing you can do to deal with emotionally overeating is to practice a form of Behavioral Cognitive Therapy which is basically a series of actions to prevent against and deal with the overeating:
1. You need to get all the junk and trigger foods out of the house. You can't eat it if it's not there, right?
2. Next you need to put up reminders of what you're doing this for around your house whether it's a motivational quote or just simply writing on a post-it some of your longer term goals so that you have something tangible to identify with.
3. When you find yourself reaching for something in the fridge or the cupboard, ask yourself if you are hungry and check to see how long it's been since you've eaten. If it's been more than 3 hours and your stomach is growling, you're more than likely hungry. However on the flip side if it's only been 20 minutes since you've eaten, you're more than likely trying to deal with an emotion.
4. Next you should start journaling how you're feeling to see if you can identify what it is you're feeling stressed, anxious, angry, etc about. And if you can figure out what's causing it, then you can put the wheels into motion to do something about it. For example, if you're stressed about a deadline at work, plot a timeline for completing the project. That way you'll know what you need to do when and you'll also alleviate some of the stress of worrying how you'll get it done when it's all written out on paper.
5. Develop incompatible behaviors with overeating. For example, when you get stressed, instead of pigging out on a half-gallon of ice cream, go to the gym, take a kickboxing class, take a bubble bath, have a massage, etc. Just choose something that in no way related to food.

I'm going to reiterate the fact that it is a really hard go with things like this and I don't think your commitment is waning in the least. You just may need some help dealing with the issues that are driving you to overeat and if you don't deal with they are going to continually come up and sabotage you over and over again. It's very important to deal with them and learn ways of conteracting it by prevention and putting recovery behaviors in place when you do have a freak out and binge. We're all human and we all go through rough patches. It's a matter of looking at what has gone wrong and learn how to do things better from those mishaps. It's rough but I'm positive you're resilient enough to do it. :) :hug:

midwife 03-07-2009 11:37 AM

grabec, you probably want to edit out your email addy to avoid spambots.

Thin,

Sometimes it's just harder than others.

Yesterday I had a stressful experience and had missed my snack. It was lunch time and I was starving. I was thinking about where to stop for lunch and thought about a bunch of fast food options cause I "deserved" it after my stressful experience....

I began talking to myself:

What do I want? I can have whatever I want.

You want to go home and make a turkey sandwich

No I wanna eat fast food.

How will you feel after you eat it? How will you feel after you eat a turkey sandwich? What are your goals? How will this choice fit into them?

But I want it!

You sound like a 3 year old.

So I went home and had a turkey sandwich. And some Doritos. Which was still way better than a choice I would have made at a fast food restaurant.

So I guess my point is that sometimes it is just HARD. And sometimes we have to make ourselves do things we don't want to do. But as an adult, I am in charge of what I put in my mouth and the consequences of those actions. Sometimes I'll even say out loud "I am in charge of this choice. I am choosing to eat XYZ" and then my rule is that I can't whine and complain and feel victimized. It was my decision. I am not a victim of my bad decisions. I am a partner of them. I am a partner of my good decisions too.

I never regret eating on plan. I am not sitting here wishing I would have had a cheeseburger yesterday. I am pleased with the choice I made. I never regret exercising either. Sometimes I put my shoes on and say, just five minutes and then I can stop. I never want to stop, but if I did that would be okay. That would be my decision.

Sometimes I use delaying tactics. I might think "Oh I really want XYZ." And then I'll tell myself I can have it on Saturday if I still want it. It is a good compromise in the moment and then if I still want it on Saturday, I will have it, but it radically reduces the amount of potential junk food during the week.

I agree heartily with Lori that you have to find a plan that you love. I really love protein pancakes, fruit, roasted veggies, shrimp, fish, etc., and the food I eat is both healthy and delicious. I am still a foodie at heart.

shatteredfallendove 03-07-2009 11:45 AM

Hey darling, I know what you mean. I have had a binge eating problem for a year. Its hard to let it go. I mean sometimes the motivation to be healthy is there in your mind and then sometimes food becomes that security blanket from all your problems. The best thing to do, is realise that food is not the answer and change it. Its hard to do, I myself are struggling to change. But it is worth it.

Nothing is wrong you hun, dont think that. Its all in your mind. Your mindset is set so that you eat when your bored, or when something goes wrong so, all you have to do is change that.

For example, where do you normally eat in your house. If its in front of the t.v or by the computer than theres the problem because when your distracted your mind wont recieve the messages from your body telling you your full. The best thing I can tell you is to eat at the kitchen table every time you eat. that way you monitor what you eat, when you eat it, and why your eating. It helps. Trust me.

commimetment is a hard thing to follow through. sometimes motivation comes through encouraging words. So heres some. YOU CAN DO IT. IT will be hard, but its worth it. Try to keep youyour self positive, when your negative toward yourself it might trigger a binge.

Maybe its best to create a short term goal. Say losing 5 pounds in two weeks. Its a short term goal that is reachable.

I hope this helps. And remember stay positive and believe in yourself. Once you give up, you eat. I know!! So say to yourself. I will eat when Im hungry and keep yourself occupied so you dont eat out of boredum. :-)

take care hunnie
YOU CAN DO IT!!!

BELIVE IT

susiemartin 03-07-2009 11:58 AM

I've had the same thing going on all week :mad:

The day starts out good & ends up OP

cfmama 03-07-2009 12:16 PM

I think it's always important too to eat FOODS THAT YOU LIKE!!!! So if you hate oranges but you love apples... it's OKAY to eat apples and forgo the oranges... as long as it's still a healthy choice right?

You can't change your eating habits for life if you don't like what you are eating so finding ways to make healthy foods taste yummy is big for me. I don't like steamed frozen green beans but if I toss them in a little evoo and some pepper and then roast them I can eat a whole bag!

And sometimes... you just fake it till you make it. I don't always want to stay on plan. I don't always want to eat my "turkey sandwich" instead of (insert junk here...) but I do. Because I want the end result. Because every time I eat that (insert junk here) it puts me farther from my goals.

You CAN do this. I know you can :)

WarMaiden 03-07-2009 12:47 PM

I take a lot of daily pleasure in the small changes that are happening over time. Basically, those little NSVs. Perhaps focusing more each day on how your body is changing in positive ways will help you see that you're not just benefitting long-term, you are also benefitting short-term.

kelly315 03-07-2009 12:55 PM

For most of us, it takes a lot of tries and failures to get to a point where you can start to have permanent loss. I think that the only reason any of us are able to succeed is because we've failed so many times, and gotten to know what we can do and what we need. All I can say is, never stop trying, no matter how many times you feel like you've failed. It will eventually push you to the right mindset and place in your life that you need to succeed.

Just keep going!

Windchime 03-07-2009 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by thinpossible (Post 2644216)
I have a hard time making long term goals where the prize is far off. For me looking good and avoiding health problems are the prize for losing weight.

Maybe you need a new prize system! I agree with other posters' suggestions on how to deal with the emotional aspect of eating, but sometimes a girl needs a treat to look forward to. How about the idea of making a list of fun things to use as prizes every time you lose 5 pounds (or whatever number you choose)? They don't have to be big, just something fun that you would like to have. It can be anything from a bottle of pretty nail polish to a new mp3 player (that was my prize for losing 10 pounds). In the past, I promised myself an expensive (to me!) handbag when I reached a major milestone. I really looked forward to that, and I bought it when I got to my goal.

So absolutely think about the things that the other posters have suggested, but also consider the idea that you're a person who responds better to the carrot than the stick (heh) and give yourself a non-food treat when you reach a tiny mini-goal.

wendyland 03-07-2009 01:12 PM

Thanks for posting this thread. I'm having a really hard time sticking to my plan. It helps to read all of these posts for inspiration. There are so many factors that go into our overeating that it's no wonder that it's a struggle. There's such an abundance of food in our society. Bad foods make you want more bad foods. Going out with friends for social events.

When I lose sight of my goals, I come here and read. I also keep my mom in mind. She died last summer of a heart attack at age 45. She was about the same size as I am right now. I know that I eat better & exercise, but I don't know if it's still good enough. I don't want to leave my girls without a mom. I don't want to leave this planet when I'm not ready to.

SnowboundChick 03-07-2009 04:53 PM

I too am in the same boat. My eating is up and down. I'm working really hard at it, it's much more difficult than getting exercise in. Right now I exercise everyday but I'll have good days and good hours and then out of nowhere I want something and I don't know how to talk myself out of it. I've been working on healthy snack options, as this is a big thing for me. In another thread someone said they ate carrots I tried that for four days this week and it worked. I will continue this with other cut up fruits and veggies. Good luck, you can do it!

kaplods 03-07-2009 06:36 PM

Nothing is wrong with you, it's all part of being entirely human, short term rewards are generally more effective than long term ones. Learning to work towards long term rewards is difficult (and learning one, say saving money - doesn't make learning a second, like dieting much if any less difficult).

Short term rewards are much more effective for me, so I build a lot of them into my plan. I have sticker charts for weight loss, exercise, and (unrelated to weight loss) writing my novel. I have three charts and for weight loss I get a sticker for each lb, and choose a small reward (that I write in advance) for losing 5 lbs (and an occasional bigger reward for milestones - once I write the reward down, the "rule" for myself is that I can't buy that particular thing until I earn it). For exercise, it's the same only 20 minutes of exercise earns me 1 sticker, and for the novel 30 minutes of writing time.

The sticker itself is a reward, even though it's worthless. I get a little boost putting that sticker in the box. I recently got lazy and stopped using my sticker charts (or maybe I stopped using the sticker charts and then got lazy). So, I'm back on my sticker routine.

Trazey34 03-07-2009 08:23 PM

I can so relate. I also have the added bonus that when I eat bad stuff I still love it AND i never feel bad about it afterwards. Maybe a "d'oh I should have this instead" but I've never ever been one to beat myself up over food - maybe i should be!!! And I'm the same with unpleasant things -- i hate scrubbing toilets but it has to be done every few days like it or not. For me it was all about telling the whiny spoiled 8 year old who lives inside my mind that NO you just can't have whatever you want you brat, I'd like to actually LIVE to 70 or so, and not drop dead of a heart attack at 50, thank you very much!! LOL sometimes you just have to do unpleasant things, and hopefully they get more mechanical and routine and you dont' have to think about them any longer

TraceyElaine 03-07-2009 09:11 PM

You + me = same boat lol

I realy do know how you feel. I get so motivated and think for sure I am doing it this time and then somewhere along the way I fall. I see all these amazing people on 3fc who share their success stories and how they are doing it this time. I get all pumped up and do so well. And when fall off plan I think "How did I let it get me?" or "Why aren't I doing it this time?"

I guess there is just going to be a point where we make it happen. We will make the right choices untill we are there. We will not give in and take the easy way out. I think the important part to remember when we do fall behind, is that we must get back on and keep going...and going and going untill we get it right.

So don't give up, and I won't give up. And eventually we will get there even if it is through the scenic route.

*HUG!

thinpossible 03-08-2009 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiberlover (Post 2644229)
Being healthy and eating foods that are good for you are a joy and a priviledge! Don't ever think of treating your body with respect as a punishment. The punishment is staying fat.

I'll work on this perspective

Quote:

Originally Posted by grabec (Post 2644234)
And I really understand your motivation coming and going and everything else you said. A guy who is dealing with a drug problem told me that every day he has to make decision after decision off and on to not use. I guess that is the way eating is too but doing it sometimes is just out of the question. I totally relate to your post and you can email me privately and we can keep in touch if you want. [email protected]
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Yeah, I can difinitely relate. Sometimes the craving is so strong it seems impossible to resist for an hour.

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Originally Posted by Jennelle (Post 2644277)
4. Keep your goals small. My doctor cracks me up; he says, "I just want my pound of flesh....a week." :lol: So my first goal is 52 pounds in 52 weeks. That is plenty doable and leaves room for a gain here and there.

I thought I was keeping my goals small, but maybe I still have the "how fast can I get this off" mindset that usually trips me up. I'll have to think about this more. Thanks for the tips

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Originally Posted by gymlee (Post 2644286)
I'm going to reiterate the fact that it is a really hard go with things like this and I don't think your commitment is waning in the least. You just may need some help dealing with the issues that are driving you to overeat and if you don't deal with they are going to continually come up and sabotage you over and over again. It's very important to deal with them and learn ways of conteracting it by prevention and putting recovery behaviors in place when you do have a freak out and binge. We're all human and we all go through rough patches. It's a matter of looking at what has gone wrong and learn how to do things better from those mishaps. It's rough but I'm positive you're resilient enough to do it. :) :hug:

Thanks. I have thought a lot about the emotional issues that are related to my compulsive eating (hello, two alcoholic parents) but I'll dig around a bit more. Thanks for the vote of confidence in my commitment.

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Originally Posted by midwife (Post 2644289)
So I guess my point is that sometimes it is just HARD. And sometimes we have to make ourselves do things we don't want to do. But as an adult, I am in charge of what I put in my mouth and the consequences of those actions. Sometimes I'll even say out loud "I am in charge of this choice.

I never regret eating on plan. I am not sitting here wishing I would have had a cheeseburger yesterday. I am pleased with the choice I made.

Yeah, you're right. And thanks for all the awesome support you given me since day one here at 3FC. You have been a real encouragement to me.

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Originally Posted by shatteredfallendove (Post 2644299)
commimetment is a hard thing to follow through. sometimes motivation comes through encouraging words. So heres some. YOU CAN DO IT. IT will be hard, but its worth it. Try to keep youyour self positive, when your negative toward yourself it might trigger a binge.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by susiemartin (Post 2644316)
I've had the same thing going on all week :mad:

The day starts out good & ends up OP

Well, hang in there!

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfmama (Post 2644338)
I think it's always important too to eat FOODS THAT YOU LIKE!!!! So if you hate oranges but you love apples... it's OKAY to eat apples and forgo the oranges... as long as it's still a healthy choice right?

You can't change your eating habits for life if you don't like what you are

You know the weird thing is, sometimes I DON'T like binge foods, and if I'm in a binge frame of mind I eat them anyway, even though I don't want them. I was in the Drive Thru at Sonic yesterday, and what I really wanted was some cottage cheese and pineapple. I ate the burger anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarMaiden (Post 2644379)
I take a lot of daily pleasure in the small changes that are happening over time. Basically, those little NSVs. Perhaps focusing more each day on how your body is changing in positive ways will help you see that you're not just benefitting long-term, you are also benefitting short-term.

I did this a lot in the beginning, I need to get back to it

Quote:

Originally Posted by kelly315 (Post 2644383)
For most of us, it takes a lot of tries and failures to get to a point where you can start to have permanent loss. I think that the only reason any of us are able to succeed is because we've failed so many times, and gotten to know what we can do and what we need. All I can say is, never stop trying, no matter how many times you feel like you've failed. It will eventually push you to the right mindset and place in your life that you need to succeed.

Just keep going!

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windchime (Post 2644395)
Maybe you need a new prize system!

I'll think about this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wendyland (Post 2644401)
Thanks for posting this thread. I'm having a really hard time sticking to my plan. It helps to read all of these posts for inspiration. There are so many factors that go into our overeating that it's no wonder that it's a struggle. There's such an abundance of food in our society. Bad foods make you want more bad foods. Going out with friends for social events.

When I lose sight of my goals, I come here and read. I also keep my mom in mind. She died last summer of a heart attack at age 45. She was about the same size as I am right now. I know that I eat better & exercise, but I don't know if it's still good enough. I don't want to leave my girls without a mom. I don't want to leave this planet when I'm not ready to.

I'm so sorry to hear about your mom. I can really relate to what you said

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConfessorSiuan (Post 2644599)
I too am in the same boat. My eating is up and down. I'm working really hard at it, it's much more difficult than getting exercise in. Right now I exercise everyday but I'll have good days and good hours and then out of nowhere I want something and I don't know how to talk myself out of it. I've been working on healthy snack options, as this is a big thing for me. In another thread someone said they ate carrots I tried that for four days this week and it worked. I will continue this with other cut up fruits and veggies. Good luck, you can do it!

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaplods (Post 2644723)
I have sticker charts for weight loss, exercise, and (unrelated to weight loss) writing my novel.

Maybe I'll try stickers

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trazey34 (Post 2644816)
For me it was all about telling the whiny spoiled 8 year old who lives inside my mind that NO you just can't have whatever you want you brat, I'd like to actually LIVE to 70 or so, and not drop dead of a heart attack at 50, thank you very much!! LOL sometimes you just have to do unpleasant things, and hopefully they get more mechanical and routine and you dont' have to think about them any longer

Yeah, I have that same 8 year old.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TraceyElaine (Post 2644872)
I guess there is just going to be a point where we make it happen. We will make the right choices untill we are there. We will not give in and take the easy way out. I think the important part to remember when we do fall behind, is that we must get back on and keep going...and going and going untill we get it right.

So don't give up, and I won't give up. And eventually we will get there even if it is through the scenic route.

*HUG!

I sure hope you're right

risab 03-08-2009 10:32 AM

I just re-started Weight Watchers, so I am eager to succeed. But, I, too, have a hard time staying loyal to my plans. Usually after 5-6 weeks. I have vowed that this is not a journey to failure. I will never, ever join WW again after this journey....soooo I am counting on it to work 'with' me this time. This journey that we are ALL on with similar reasons is simply a journey! You are going from point A to point B AND how you get there, how long it takes you to get there, etc, is so small compared to the invaluable lessons you learn along the way. You will get there because you have already decided to get there. There are no failures unless you quit.
Best of luck to you.....Look for me in about 4 weeks to give me some support. That's about the time I decide to give up. But not this time, I tell you!

risab 03-08-2009 10:33 AM

What does OP mean?

JayEll 03-08-2009 11:25 AM

In this thread, it seems to mean "on plan," but OP also sometimes means "original poster."

Jay

kaplods 03-08-2009 01:35 PM

I'm prone to quitting when I can't be perfect. Frustration and feeling deprived make me feel "what's the use." One of the reasons I think I'm sticking with it this time (haven't had a significant gain in 4 years, so there's definitely unusual progress for me, even if the weight loss is less consistent), is that I changed my thinking to "I don't have to be perfect, I just need to be better).

I wouldn't recommend the "snail's way" to anyone else, and those 4 years were very complicated (and the vast majority of my weight loss occured in the last year), but I do think it's very important to avoid the "what's the use," thinking because it can inspire quitting (big or small). Even deciding "what's the use, I might as well eat whatever the heck I can fit into my gut, and start fresh tomorrow/Monday/first of the month. Either way, it isn't just starting fresh, because it's not like picking up where you left off, because you backtracked. Truly picking yourself up after the first hint of a mistake, can be starting fresh and can happen daily, or ten times daily and still not keep you from making progress.

If you trip on a step, don't throw yourself to the bottom of the staircase. It's such obvious advice, and yet so difficult to follow, because it's a culturally ingrained habit. On some level, we're taught that binges are supposed to follow mistakes. At least we're taught to expect the possibility that frustration can lead to "I'll eat like a madwoman until tomorrow/Monday/first of the month morning."

Changing even one small habit can have miraculous results. We just don't look for small miracles, we tend to look for big ones.

thinpossible 03-08-2009 10:52 PM

I had no water this weekend, and I have a HORRIBLE headache from dehydration. I ate junk which didn't even taste good. I feel so yucky. I'm like a dog who digs in the garbage just because I know I'm not supposed to :lol: I am back on plan tomorrow for reals. DEAR GOD, PLEASE LET ME REMEMBER HOW CRAPPY IT FEELS TO TREAT MY BODY LIKE CRAP. If I had a fairy godmother, I think instead of wishing to be thin, I'd wish to remember how I feel right now.

JazzyPeggy 03-09-2009 07:31 AM

This was a great thread. The title really caught my attention. I am having the same problem. NO committment whatsoever. I can't even decide which diet plan to go with not even for a day. Just last week I told a friend, I am having a problem with committment. So this morning, I decided to come to
3FC and get motivated. And I'm so glad I did, this was a great place to start.

And I know what you mean, Thin. Recently I have eaten more food, when my stomach was already hurting from overeating, and I just felt even worse. With me, it seems at times I am rebelling. "Don't tell me I can't eat anything else, I'll just show you."

So I'm going to start my committment today. Just for today, I'm going to do WW. And then tomorrow I'll make the same promise again.

I like the Losing 5 pounds in 2 weeks goal, I think I'm going to try just to show myself I really can do this.

Thanks, Thin for this thread and everyone that replied. This was an awesome thread.

GirlyGirlSebas 03-09-2009 07:59 AM

I could have written your original post. Isn't it eerie how so many of us fight the exact same battle?

For me, I've made a promise to myself that I will never give up. I'll keep going at this until I get it right. Sometimes, I'm embarrased to have been on this site and posting regularly since November 2006, however, I've only managed to lose 30 pounds. However, I'm still trying and I hold on tightly to that small kernel of success with both hands!

Don't give up on yourself! Keep trying!

yoyoma 03-09-2009 09:10 AM

Rhonda -- managing to lose 30 lbs over 3 years is awesome! First of all, it's over the 10% mark which is very worthwhile. Secondly, any progress is better than success followed by regain which is my usual pattern (working on nipping that in the bud this time round).

To the OP, I have problem with boredom and stress eating too. I find that a nice hot cup of tea with a little non-fat powered milk and 0-cal sweetener really helps in that case. Other folks find crunchy carrots or whatever helpful, but the process of making the tea and then having a nice hot comfort drink really helps me whether I'm bored or stressed. Good luck!

thinpossible 03-09-2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by yoyoma (Post 2646441)
To the OP, I have problem with boredom and stress eating too. I find that a nice hot cup of tea with a little non-fat powered milk and 0-cal sweetener really helps in that case. Good luck!

Thanks, I'll put powdered milk on my grocery list this week

midwife 03-09-2009 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by thinpossible (Post 2646077)
DEAR GOD, PLEASE LET ME REMEMBER HOW CRAPPY IT FEELS TO TREAT MY BODY LIKE CRAP. If I had a fairy godmother, I think instead of wishing to be thin, I'd wish to remember how I feel right now.

If I had a dime for every time I've had to relearn that lesson!

Today I wanted to binge on a breakfast burrito.
So I broke down my thought processes:
If I eat a ginormous breakfast burrito, I will feel sluggish, become massively dehydrated (I get so thirsty after salty foods these days), have IBS symptoms, and be thoroughly ticked off with myself. I kept visualizing all of those consequences and then I visualized a breakfast that was on plan, but hit those main taste points I wanted---beans, chile, cheese, eggs.

But it's taken me a few years to get to this point, and I can do this about 70% of the time. The other 30% I have to relearn again WHY it is not a good idea to eat a ton of food that is unhealthy for me. This is a very conscious thought-out process for me....I really do take it "Step 1, Step 2, Step 3".

Maybe someday it will become second nature, but for now it is not. It is a million little choices every day, every minute. It's okay that it's hard sometimes--if it were easy, every one would do it.

What matters is that you are still here, still trying, still kicking, thinking about ways to reach your goal.

On the words of the great philosopher Rocky Balboa, it's not how many times you fall, it's how many times you get up. So keep trying, keep trucking, even if there are missteps along the way, it's okay, cause what's the alternative?:hug:

kaplods 03-09-2009 12:39 PM

I think our diet "culture" works against us, and may contribute to the dismal success rate of dieting. We're taught to expect ourselves to be perfect. And that's how many of us start (or continue) to diet. Counting the days before we "fall off the wagon," and calling every mistake or misstep "failure."

I think weight loss is more a very complicated set of skills - like learning to play a musical instrument. We wouldn't expect anyone to be able to play a musical instrument perfectly from the start, but that's what we expect from ourselves when we're dieting. Another major error in thinking, is what normal weight loss looks like. Because we hear that the "safe" rate of weight loss is 1/2 to 1% of our body weight weekly (for most folks 1 or 2 lbs), it's easy to believe that those 1 to 2 lbs are typical or normal, and if we don't at least lose 1 to 2 lbs every week, we're not really succeeding.

I used to be able to lose 6 lbs or more a week consistently when I was younger, and at a similar weight. With my current health issues, I'm lucky to lose 1 lbs a week (I'd be very lucky to lose 1 lb a week). Several months ago, I was whining to my doctor that the weight was coming off so slowly, and he "set me straight." He told me that even at my weight, even 1 lb a month or less, lost consistently was far better than most folks (again, of any weight) do, because most folks give up. It made me realize (if weight loss were compared to a race) that I wasn't trailing at the end, in last place - I was actually in the lead - even with my "pitiful" weekly losses).

I do wonder how many people "at the head of the pack," think they're trailing in everyone else's dust, just because they don't understand or acknowledge how difficult and complicated weight loss can be. It's like if you gave two people a saxaphone and told one that most folks learn to play very well in about two weeks, and you told the other person that it would take years - I don't think it would be a mystery which person would be likely to feel like a failure (and increase odds of giving up).

I really think that acknowledging how terribly difficult weight loss can be, has been one of the most important factors in why I'm still succeeding, where in the past I would have given up (and restarted, and given up) a dozen times or more by now (probably with only weight gain to show for it).

Just the simple act of realizing that this IS difficult, keeps me going. It's no mystery why I find this difficult - it IS difficult. But, I've done difficult things before, and people do difficult things all of the time (and persistence is always half the battle). Most difficult things are difficult because they're not one action or skill, they're many smaller actions and skills that need to be mastered. So part of losing weight successfully and keeping it off, is being aware of, and working on all of the smaller skills that will result in ultimate success. Analyzing what doesn't work, and trying to find out what will.

It can be frustrating (but doesn't have to be, attitude is also a large part of the battle), but we've got to be lab rat and scientist to discover our own pathway to success. Analyzing why mistakes were made is one thing, but blaming ourselves generally is pointless and counterproductive, because if we think we're failing, the next step is seeing ourselves as failures, and failures give up - it's what they do.


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