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04-17-2004, 07:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New Jersey, USA
Posts: 101
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Good for you Linda. Any change no matter how small is a step in the right direction. If we can make 1 change daily for a week we could make 2 changes the next week and so on. Before you know it we will be where we want to be.
Glad you and your sister had a day together. That is important.
By the way, I just looked at all the threads for the WW General and this thread of ours has the most posts. Interesting.
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04-17-2004, 07:54 PM
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senior member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 3,438
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To Chachee about leaving a point at the end of the day
Hi!
Just a thought on the point.....
I am a "high needs" eater and even when I made lifetime with WW (wish I was at that weight NOW, though, I am so far away, sadly) I used up every single point every day, and then some. I don't know if I can truly shave a point off what I eat, but I will fulfill the other aspects of ths challenge, I hope! I get hungry horrors and frantic with hunger, sometimes!
What I have done that has worked, though, is that I didn't count my exercise points that I earned as extra and have just eaten my point allowance for the day. I still go over, but I think if you are good for at least 5 out of every 7 days and stay totally on program, and maybe only have a few tiny indescetions (sp?) on the other days, you'll be ok?????
Just a thought. Don't drop this challenge and get discouraged if you "miss" and go over on the points, we are all human.
My husband's birthday is on Wednesday and every year I make a VERY sinfull carrot cake for his birthday, it's his ONLY birthday gift request each year as he loves it so much. I know I will have a piece and it's probably about 12+ points for one small slice. I shall forgive myself for that, I shall try to exercise a little longer and try very hard to eat low point items for the rest of the day and the next day. But, I will have that piece of cake, I know this. I could try to say I would be the matre (sp?) and not have a piece, but then I would feel punished, and deprived, and end up blowing this whole thing.
I learned, a long time ago, that it's the overall long term committment to weight loss that brings success, not the once in awhile "treats" that we allow once in awhile.
I've been at goal. I was a lifetime member of WW, I have the special pin to prove it. I literally, in totally disgust with myself, tossed all my "10 pound" ribbons with stars all over them in the trash, that I earned on that long path to that goal weight right in the trash a long time ago, as I knew I didn't "deserve" them any longer. I hope to earn NEW ribbons and stay at the goal weight this time.
You don't get to goal without some effort, and if you really feel you need that extra point each day to survive and stay with this challenge, you should eat what your body needs. (well, within reason, of course) No one in a group like this would find fault, I hope, certainly not I. I'd just say "been there, done that"!
By the way, why am I not at goal, when I did achieve it once already? I got "cocky" and felt that I didn't "need' WW anymore. I had lost all the weight and was "free" to move on. Well, that is NOT what works for me. I should have stayed on maintenance and I should have kept going to meetings. I did this to myself.
Just remember, to quote Richard Simmons on a motivational tape I have from long ago, "YOU hold the fork". It's not one point each day that will make you succeed, it's an overall approach to eating well, using your brainpower and resistance. No one can acheive perfection, we must forgive ourselves and move on. Hope I don't offend anyone by saying that.
But, I need the structure of the program and the points, because on my own I lose control and fail. So, I shall try to be counting the points and trying hard to return each day to post here and let you all know how I am doing.
By the way, I wrote this for myself, as much as for YOU!
Linda in NH, with the windows open for the first time this year in the evening and loving it! Yeah! 75 degrees in NH today!!!!!
OH YES, forgive my terrible spelling. There appears to be no spell check option with these posts!
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04-17-2004, 09:42 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Littleton, CO, USA
Posts: 31
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Hi - I'm back from my week of being out of town and boy, am I glad to be able to read these posts!! I was so frustrated last night - every time I clicked on our thread the screen would go to the 3fc picture and advertising and nothing else. It was doing it tonight too - after refreshing about 10 times and going in and out of the website it FINALLY opened. I'm already hooked on coming to the boards now!
Welcome to the new folks, Heather and Linda (hope I didn't miss anyone) - we are all in this together and I really believe that having those goals that we report to each other helps.
I weighed in at WW today - I was very nervous getting on the scale having been in New Orleans all week (and eating at some great restaurants.) And I was down 3 pounds! The leader said I should plan on going out of town more often!
What I learned was - it really makes a difference to pay attention to CHOICES. I drank my water and I got to the health club twice (2 times more on the treadmill than the week before) but the REAL difference was paying attention to things like - I skipped the meeting provided pastries in the a.m. and had a WW breakfast bar instead. I had a salad at lunch - all because I knew I wanted to have beignets one evening (that was my dinner!) and to save my points for dinners. I didn't feel deprived because I knew I was saving for something else. Recognizing that if I wanted one thing, it meant not having something else didn't feel like punishment - just felt like reality! And it was okay. And it obviously worked.
I'm psyched - of course, it's only week three of WW - but now I have the challenge to get me going. I probably won't shave a point, but I am not going to count my exercise points. My weight loss goal between April 18-June 6 will be 8 pounds - now I'll be out of town for work one week and the week of May 22-29 I'll be on vacation - in Mexico! So that 8 pounds may be unrealistic. But if I can be as successful out of town as I was this week - maybe it will be doable!!
I'll report in every day except when I'm out of town (too tough to get online)
Good luck everyone!!
Cris
Starting weight 186 4/3/04
Current weight 179
Goal weight 140ish
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04-18-2004, 02:25 AM
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#94
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Muffin Evergreen Diva
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Alaska
Posts: 717
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Onto the Challenge
Okay, here we go. I had a horrible day today with eating. I couldn't get away from the cravings. Glad it's out of my system!
I know some people have said there were certain aspects of the challenge they couldn't do. Hey, what I say to that is do what you know you can accomplish, but also do a little more than you think you can.
I, for instance, have really had a hard time all my life with exercise. It's just a mind block with me. I get so grumpy when I have to do it. Now I have found exercises I actually enjoy. (Yep, I'm not sick, I actually do enjoy them.) It's just a mental thing because I feel so much better once I am done exercising. I wonder why I didn't do it before.
For me, that is a big challenge! In all honesty, not using that one extra point is not hard for me because I'm about 80% vegetarian and I usually eat a lot of veggies, especially when my hubby is gone. Also, the frozen meals I eat are veggie, therefore very low in points. I don't think that is going to be a big deal for me.
My personal/individual goal of a 15 pound loss is very attainable in my eyes. I might have to drop it back to 10, but I really think I can do it. I have a lot of weight to lose, so it may be easier for me who is about 100 pounds from goal (if you ask WW) than someone only 20 pounds from goal. Those last 20-30 pounds for me are going to be such a struggle. Any loss is going to be great for me and I'll take it!!
I've found myself on a pattern of sabotauging myself on Thursday and Friday. I eat a little more than I should because I know I have several days to get it off. I need to stop that. Today I was saying, "Gosh, I've done so well, what is a little chocolate going to really do??". Bad thought, as I have spent half the night in the bathroom with an upset stomach. Lesson learned, move on!!
Good luck to everyone on and off the challenge. This is a journey of not only weight loss, but self-gain. We will all be reclaiming ourselves and taking control of our lives/losses.
Chach
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04-18-2004, 08:38 AM
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#95
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New Jersey, USA
Posts: 101
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Good Morning everyone!
Cris, how wonderful on the 3 lbs even being in New Orleans. I hope you had a beignet for me. Terrific. That must feel good.
Chach I hear you about the exercise. Its only 8:30 am here right now and it is getting warm so I have to get out now to walk or I don't go. I can't take the heat. Walking is the only form of exercise I like. Not sure what I will do this summer. I am planning on getting up at 6:00 am before it gets hot out and then walk. Otherwise I won't be able too. UGH.
Well I just want to thank everyone on this challenge. I started back on program April 5th when I found this thread. Because of all your support and the comradere (spelling) I have already lost 5 lbs of the 20 I have to loss. I can't believe that. I have been so focused these past 2 weeks.
Everyone have a great 1st week on the Challenge.
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04-18-2004, 11:34 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: New York City Suburbs
Posts: 715
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Hi everybody,
We were really busy yesterday and also had some pc issues. But I'm back.
Dav, 5lbs is great, especially when you only have 20 lbs to lose. I know what you mean about the walking. I usually go at 6am. Problem is, when we change clocks in the fall and it's dark in the morning, I won't go. I had the treadmill (it's got to be a mental thing) so I do nothing for weeks in the fall and that leads to a very sendintary(sp?) winter and I gain back the weight. Well this time around I'm doing more than walking. I'm adding weights, the WATP video and hopefully some yoga (I heard it helps with diabetes, HPB and depression) Might need to do yoga ALOT!
Chach, As I just stated I've got exercise issues too. But one thing I've learned over the yrs of ups and downs is that I've got to make the right food choices AND exercise to see the results. And it has to become habit.
Why is doing the right thing so much harder?
Cris, Isn't great to go away and come back with less "luggage" then you left with I managed to lose during my vacation last yr. So CONGRATS, on the 3lbs and enjoy the next trip and I'm sure you'll do great.
Linda, You been a goal before and you'll get there again. I've never made it to goal, so I applaud you And I think your right about the occasional treat. If not you feel deprived and could end up binging. My son's birthday cake has been in the fridge all week. Normally I'd be taking a sliver here and there (which would eventually add up to a slab) but I had a piece the first day and haven't touched it since. (of course I'm only strong for so long and if they don't finish it by tonight its going in the trash )
Well I hope everyone is ready for the challenge. I hoping to be down 12lb by 6/6. I hope I'm not aiming too high or too low. 7wks and less than 2lbs a week. Better keep my butt moving.
Enjoy the rest of the weekend. ttyl....
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04-18-2004, 12:22 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 9
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Hi everyone!! It sounds like we're all off to a really good start and we're really listening to our minds and bodies, not to diet, but to truly make good changes. That's exactly what it's going to take for us to succeed! Plus, we have to remind ourselves, no matter how much (or little) we have to lose, we didn't gain it all in a month, it was because of strings of bad choices compounding on each other. That said, I am really proud of myself! Three days in, yesterday, I blew my points, but I am not sad, because I had grilled salmon and broccoli for dinner w/ a small salad and a piece of bread. So, although it was a huge meal, it was a well cooked meal and it was delicious!!! I have also managed to work out 3 days in a row, and I've drank 100 oz water every day!! Yeah for me!! Good luck everyone, we can do this!!! Julie
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04-18-2004, 01:06 PM
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Muffin Evergreen Diva
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Alaska
Posts: 717
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Hello ladies!
Cris, I forgot to say GREAT JOB on the 3 pound loss!!! Excellent for being on vacation!
Dotti: Big congrats to you on your loss. That's wonderful and you are that much closer to goal. Way to go!!! Did you get your walk in early?
Julie: Great points you made on why we all gained. Isn't it funny that it didn't come on in one day, but we always want it off in one day? Your meal sounded wonderful! Great job on working out and the water intake!!
Donna: Sounds like a good goal of 12 pounds. I know you will be able to do it! You are off to a wonderful start!!
I better scoot! Laundry, housework and a walk later!!
Chach
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04-18-2004, 01:23 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New Jersey, USA
Posts: 101
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Donna, I had a treadmill years ago, and it was a very old one, it was so big and noisy that I didn't like to use it. But I love walking. I also do the WATP when I can't get out due to rain. My sister is a diabetic and walking does help her a lot. I'll mention the yoga to her also.
Fortunately, I only regained 20 lbs this time from a 70 lb loss last year. Usually I just keep going up and up. Something must be clicking in my head this time.
Yes, Chach got the walk in early but I was wet when I came back. I just can't take the sun beating on me constantly. I think tomorrow I will try and get up very early and get it done.
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04-18-2004, 11:06 PM
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#100
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Muffin Evergreen Diva
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Alaska
Posts: 717
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Hi all.
Here is my daily challenge check in.
Biked 20 minutes with son on the back. Woohoo, now I know what 30 pounds feels like with him on the back.
I ate well today, and I have 7 points left over and I'm going to bed in an hour. I might have some popcorn or a Skinny Cow and call it good. (Actually, 6 left over after shaving the point.)
I weighed on my home scales this morning and I was 238.5. I know I am up a couple from weigh in last week, but that will come off quickly. I am still paying for the binging yesterday. Ick. So, my official home weigh in start of the challenge is 238.5 and I will use that number for my Sunday Challenge weigh ins.
Have a great night!
Chach
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04-19-2004, 02:54 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 9
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Well, I feel great!! I managed to stay on plan, I actually had about 3 points left over at the end of the day, I managed to drink all my water, and although I didn't go walk today, I did take the stairs at work. I am weighing in at 202.3, which is actually about 6 pounds lost from when my Dr. suggested WLS, so I am absolutely thrilled! I've been half-a@! trying for several months, and realized today that I have shaved off 15.7 pounds!!! That since October, so I hope it doesn't take QUIte that long to shed 15 more, but hey, that's 15 closer than I was when I began!!! Great job, everyone! Keep up the good work! Julie
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04-19-2004, 03:19 AM
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Leaning out of Lurkdom ;)
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Misplaced Michigander
Posts: 455
Height: 5' 7"
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Cachee you Corker! just when i got my gunk into a really good funk. pulling me outta "lurk-mode" like that, must of slid right by number 4 of the challenge .......... Check in daily to report our progress. ~laughing~ okay´sssss ifn i must. but i didnt like yesterday much and for the first time i really FLEXED my flex points ~sniggering~. possibly flexing my flex points to the point of fracturing. ~laughing~ a lil lick and stick and all will be fine. (i am not comfortable with those never used them till yesterday but what handy escape route ~winks n grinz~)
My scale dance bites but it looks like i am at a solid 200. at least i was saturday, sunday, and today. i am fighting the "discouraged demon" and whizzing thru all the proper excuses, such as the arrival TOM and extending and upping your walks. eating far below my points two days running and then flexing those points on sunday. remeber my hill and the greek restraurant at the bottom......... well we went there this time strictly to eat. i wont tempt any tastebuds here and go into details but the food was fabulous. we shared 2 starters because they both sounded so delicious, and a dessert (boy i hope i didnt write desert i always get those to confused ~blush) the one thing i have alwas enjoyed about eating out with my Hubby 2 Be, is that he gets one thing, i another, slice it down the middle and sharezie time, two flavours for the price of one!! this is the first time we have ate out since being on the program so i am not going to beat myself up anymore. it was fabulous sitting there next to the river on a warm spring day with my sweetie and monster mutt. made even better by the adorable lady and her greek hubby who does speak a little english (yes!!) that own the place. we watched others enjoying their day as well, bikers galore out and folks walking thier dogs and children. there were some graceful swans whom seemed to just dance along the river admist the playful antics of the ducks....... i swear they were playing tag! one dove under the water and just as i thought he commited duckie suicide up he popped ~laughing~ who knew they could hold their breathes for that long??!!
ooooooooops jabbering away again.......sorry.....
i got in 2 litre´s of water yesterday. i have a half litre sippie water bottle that follows me around everywhere worser then a toddler or puppy ~laughing~ i keep having these visions of me wearing a gun holster with dual water bottles in each. singing ... I Want to be a Cowgirl baaaaaaaaaaaaby.............CHUG CHUG! ~laughing~
had a fabulous 35 minute walk in the evening. the stars were so bright and clear i could of reached up and tucked one in my hair ~smiling softly~ normally i like to walk in the mornings but like i said been in a funky mood which equals procrastination in all areas of my life.
i know i didnt shave that point off yesterday but i have been .....honest. and will do so again today. meal planned my lil heart out ~wink~ okies i have to walk the dog , days a wasting over here....... Cachee, do you think it would be a good idea to post how many points we are alloted, then put a food journal for that day of what we ate? i think it would help me and hopefully others, to not only be ac****able for what goes into our faces but for fresh food ideas too. your call babes, your challenge. welp thinkn i answered everything. see ya on the morrow all.
Welcome Julie, Hellerd, and Derry...... looking forward to getting to know each of you along this journey..... ~smiling brightly~
sincerely,
sassy
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04-19-2004, 05:28 AM
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#103
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senior member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 3,438
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my daily update!
Well, I did it yesterday! I ended the day with a point leftover, which is the hardest thing for me to do of all.
In my range, I get 25 points a day, it's so hard to shave off one that I feel I need so very much.
I drank lots of water during the day and was careful to stay out of the kitchen as much as possible. Planning meals and snacks this week is essential, yet today I don't think I'll have time, so tomorrow????
My husband and I did yard work almost the entire afternoon yesterday, I'm not sure how many points I earned, but I think at least 2, maybe even three!I am sore today, so I know I did myself some good!
It felt good to be outdoors and many of the neighbors who have been hermits all winter were wandering around "visiting" with each other! That was nice, as we met several people, having just moved here in December, in the midst of a snowstorm. Spring is so nice!
It's hard to get down on myself about my weight when the weather is turning so lovely. I feel, inside, like the thin me not the other person that I catch a passing glimpse (sp?) of when I see myself reflected in something (even my shower stall door when I sit on the john - yikes!). If you were once really a thin person (I was size 6 until I had kids and hit my early thirties) don't you still feel like that person inside and when you see your double chin and your flabby thighs, for real, does it shock you too? I'm just not dealing well with all of this. I've been looking the other way for so long, I guess.
I know I can't ever acheive the old me again, I'm almost 50 now, and have had two kids and two C-Sections, but it would be so nice to not have to almost cry when I zip up my jeans.
With you guys, I hope I can acheive this and be proud, with all of you that we helped each other!
But, today will be the biggest challenge I've faced so far, I'm visiting my parents who are the biggest weight loss sabotours (sp?) around. They feel it's necessary to FEED me whenever I see them. They are old, sick and lonely and much of their pleasure is derived from food, I think. Oh well. I will try.
I'm trying a NEW approach today and will bring them lunch from a local restaurant that I can order what I think I ought to be having and bring them stuff. Will give that a shot and see how that works.
I have not been to a ww meeting since last June (I checked my book/papers and was shocked that it had been that long) and I am going to try to rearrange my schedule so I can get to a meeting tomorrow, but am not sure I can do that with my schedule, I think I really need to get back in that groove as well.
Having you guys kept me on program yesterday, we'll take it one day at a time here!
The scale is bizarre and fluctuates so much, by the way. I am obsessed with it and find myself getting on it more than once a day, when WW says you should only get on it once a week. Do you all do that? It's not my friend, that's for sure. In spite of my efforts, I went up a pound yesterday.
Linda in NH
starting weight 161
yesterday's weight 159
day before 158
goal for memorial day 148
ultimate goal 136
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04-19-2004, 07:53 AM
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#104
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Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 40
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chocolate as addiction, and the challenge
I had a huge message typed out yesterday morning; then my computer froze up and I couldn't get online the rest of the day. So, here I am. :-)
As for chocolate being an addiction-- I think it is. I KNOW sugar is for me. After surgery, I went 6 months without a bite of sugar. I missed it the first week; then not so much. By the end of 6 months, I really didn't care about it. My downfall came when someone offered me a "bite" of chocolate cake. That bite set me up to want MORE chocolate. Now, although I cannot eat a bunch of sugar in one sitting (I have a reaction similar to diabetics if I eat too much refined sugars-- it's called "alimentary hypoglycemia", and is a desired side effect of surgery, as it limits sugar intake), I can nibble here and there-- and we all know that each bite counts.
Anyway, if you can stand to be away from the sugar, your cravings will lessen.
I'm back on track with the challenge, which is a good thing. I packed a nutritious lunch and supper (I work two jobs, and will only be home for 15 minutes to swap my lunch container for my dinner container!), and ate a bowl of cereal for breakfast. My biggest challenge today will be getting in my water, but I will do that as well. My day allows for me to leave a point remaining, so that should be good, too.
After Thursday, I'm not too worried about my eating-- my DH is having a big surgery, and will most likely not want to eat for a while. This means that no one will be bringing chocolate into the home (unless I'm the one who does it, and I don't plan on BEING the one who does it), and the only one cooking will be ME . . . so I plan on making a lot of soups (I love soups, and they'll be easier on DH post-op). AND . . . he'll need to go on short walks around the block after a couple of days, so I'll be moving more, too. We've both been not the best with our eating, and as odd as it may sound, this surgery may get us both on track. ;-)
Good luck to everyone today-- may your snacks be filling, your meals be nutritious, your exercise be uplifting, and your water be plentiful!
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04-19-2004, 08:00 AM
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#105
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New Jersey, USA
Posts: 101
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Stayed within my points Sunday. Had a 2 mile walk and am not counting those points. Came back after the walk and did some yard work. It was a beautiful day, warm, breezy and sunny.
You all had good first day on the challenge. I have a good feeling about this.
Today is suppose to be very warm. Mid 80's but right now it is very foggy, chilly and damp. I will probably get out soon for the 2 mile walk. Don't know what I will be fixing for dinner. That is the most annoying part of being on program. Husband won't eat what I make for myself. He is strickly a meat and potatoes or pasta guy. Hates veggies or salads. So I usually make him something and then try and doctor it to my points.
See you all later.
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