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Old 03-01-2006, 12:59 AM   #1
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anyone have an idea how many calories burned in one day is too many? I eat roughly 700 calories/day, and today I burned about 1100 at the gym (based on an estimate for a bodysculpting class and two sessions on the elliptical trainer---170 calories the first session and 700 the second session).

I'm not all that hungry, but I do feel pretty weak, honestly. I was trying to talk to my friends in the car on the way back and I felt like I was so pooped I couldn't even bear to make conversation...

Anyone have any pointers? or any little legal foods to serve as pick-me-ups after crazy work-out sessions at the gym?
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:09 AM   #2
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just doing normal functions such as breathing, cell growth etc your body burns around 2000 cals a day- depending on your size and metabolism.

so you are really burning over 3000 cals a day and only taking in 500.

thats dangerous! i cant believe you can get the nutrition you need at that cal level.

most weighloss professionals do not suggest limiting your cals below 1200 on a reg basis (and that is at moderate exertion, you would probably need more with all that excercize)

as far as good pick me ups,

banana
peanut butter on celery
luna bar (or whatever you like)

lately i am liking a glass of nf milk and a few peanuts as a good power snack.


i hope you do a bit of reading- i think you are putting your body at risk for health problems!

good luck!
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:12 AM   #3
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Exclamation Too low!

When you are feeling too weak, then you are running low on calories and the feeling is not good. I lost 20 pounds in one month but I felt like crap because I was subsisting on 1000 calories and burning at least 700. The important thing is to eat 1200 or more to keep up the metabolism. I know that one wants to loose the weight as fast as one gained it, but it takes time. Don't risk your health and enjoy dieting because it is stressful as it is.
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:14 AM   #4
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I should clarify---this diet has been prescribed by a doctor. It's supplemented with an entire artillery of vitamins and my intake (how much protein, how much fruit and veg, etc) is all monitored. As I lose weight, I will increase the number of calories I eat per day, as well. It's just that I've started out pretty low. I go back to the doctor tomorrow for a weigh in, so I'll be sure to ask him then.

I should probably also mention that I don't normally burn 1100 calories per day. Today was an exception, because, just like one day last week, today was a "fat day." I know that I'm getting results from my diet and exercise, but some days it's just hard to FEEL the results, you know? So, i thought if i went to the gym and tried to kill myself, maybe i'd FEEL the results a little more... so, the 1100 calorie thing is a first for me.
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:21 AM   #5
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Well, I would tell the doctor how your feeling. Having such weakness probably isn't healthy, and the doctor needs to know.

Do you know why the doctor chose this plan for you?
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:32 AM   #6
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okay phew. i feel better about it now! but if your doc isnt expecting you to do all that excercize then the cals were prob too low for that day.

i agree - if you every feel lethargic try a little snack....

new little snack suggestions
apple (70 ish cals for a med one)
carrots
luna bar (180 cals they lowered their sugar and fat too... im a fan)


good luck!
also make sure you mention to your doc that you had a lethargy episode...
he may recommend eating a bit more on days when you do that much excercize
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Old 03-01-2006, 07:29 AM   #7
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In my opinion you should seek out a new doctor! 700 calories is way too low for someone in a coma - much less for an active person! I hope you seriously consider consulting with other health care professionals on this. It couldn't hurt, and you may find that increasing your calories even helps you lose weight in addition to giving you more energy. You should never feel too tired to talk!
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Old 03-01-2006, 07:24 PM   #8
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aw, thanks! I've never heard TINY (or any derivative thereof) used to describe any picture of me! That picture was taken over the Christmas holidays, and it's probably the most flattering picture of myself that I have. I WISH I were tiny.

I talked to the doctor today, and he said that I had over-exercised yesterday. (Not altogether suprising, I suppose, given my emotional state yesterday.) Anyway, he said eat more protein. so I will give that a shot and see how it makes me feel. Hopefully much better! Thanks for your help and ideas, everyone!
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Old 03-01-2006, 07:38 PM   #9
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Whether 700 is too low is arguable...there's a thread on the Maintainer's Forum about starvation diet and MrsJim has maintained a significant amount of weight for ten years, the majority of which she lost on 800 calories a day.

However, I'll bet the reason you didn't feel hungry or deprived is that like many others, cardio suppresses your appetite. If it is just a one time thing that you're burning that many calories I wouldn't worry about it, you'll have up and down days. If you plan to burn more than 600 or 700 calories directly through exercise a day than you may want to consider boosting your calories to 800 or 1000 a day (slowly though, not all at once). If you're normally doing 200-300 calories a day and you're getting enough protein (I think nutritional guidelines are too low on that, at first I aimed for 50g a day but I know a lot of people who aim for 100g a day) than you should be okay. Weakness isn't a good sign, but overdoing it one day out of 365 isn't going to kill you. I'd say if this is a doctor you trust (i.e., not promoting a particular plan but specifically YOUR physician) and you are monitoring your energy, hunger, vitamins, and nutrients you'll be fine.
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Old 03-02-2006, 12:37 AM   #10
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i dont' feel like there's that much difference, really, between 700 calories and 1000 calories, honestly... i mean, it's one 6 oz piece of chicken. i'm honestly not hungry. so far this is working for me.
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:26 AM   #11
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I agree with the posters, aerotigergirl. Your intake is far too low to be healthy, and you may end up slowing your metabolism to boot. A female should never eat less than 1200 calories a day on a diet.

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Sometimes doctors aren't actually the best people to see about recommending diets. They often have outmoded ideas, and lets face it, they have to be a master of all trades, so to speak.

I'm sorry if you feel that we're getting at you, but it's the fact that you reported feeling weak, and not able to hear conversations that worries me. I am not a doctor, or medically trained at all, but that does not seem right to me, and I'm worried about you

It's the long term consequences of what you are doing that concern me. In conventional diet plans you start on a higher calorie count, then decrease it as you lose weight. That's what all the major plans do, and what I have done.

That piece of chicken that boosts you to 1 000 calories provides protein and essential minerals that you could be missing out on.

Calories from the food we eat to give us energy is only one side of the story. Food provides our body with nutrients. I understand your on a vitamin regime so possibly not missing out on that score, but it still worries me.

I think we all need to be asking for the credentials of anyone, medical or otherwise, who recommends a dietary regime. I'm the world's most difficult patient, as I won't let my primary care doctor do anything other than prescribe my regular meds without referring me to a specialist, for whatever it is that ails me.
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Old 03-02-2006, 12:07 PM   #13
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If you restrict your calories too much, you're on your way to developing an eating disorder like I almost did. I, too, heavily restricted my calories for awhile. Not only did I hardly lose any weight, but after awhile I'd binge because I couldn't take it. I had such an obsession with food then and I was recommended to a doctor because my friends were worried about me developing anorexia/bulimia.

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Old 03-02-2006, 01:28 PM   #14
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See, I've been afraid that this was going to happen. I want to come to this forum and be able to share my successes and failures, just like everyone else, but when I talk about the plan I'm on, people think it is dangerous....

I've done a bit of research on my diet, too, and it's not altogether uncommon for people who are moderately to severely obese (BMI>30) to be put on very low calorie diets. It's a short-term thing that has no better or worse results (in maintenance) than any other diet on the market, and it has been shown to reduce cholesterol, risk of diabetes and high blood pressure (which it has already done in my case).

I realize that weight loss is a long term commitment, and that in order to keep the weight that I've lost from creeping back on I have to change my eating and exercising habits. I am aware of this and I am doing it.

I am working very hard at this. I'm eating exactly the amounts of proteins and vegetables and fruits and dairy (down to the calorie) that is reccommended for me, and I exercise at least 6 days a week. I am a very health conscious person and would not stick to a diet that made me feel weird or weak or anything like that on a regular basis. This entire thing has made me really second guess my success so far, and made me feel like it isn't worth anything because I'm not doing it the same way everyone else is.
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:34 PM   #15
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Wow. I scaled back calories this week to about 1000 a day and burning (through exercise) about 300, and I am already having issues with sleep, concentration and just being cranky. thankfully i have only 2 more days of it.

if i could only eat 700 calories a day i would, well, i dont know what i would do. i hope your doctor is one smart cookie. ooh..a cookie, that sounds good
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