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Old 06-24-2006, 11:21 AM   #31  
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I'm not going to sit here and say I don't mind having fecal matter in meat, but I still think lawsuits such as this are insane. If this lawsuit were trying to improve the quality of meat, that would be one thing (and not just because it's fatty or has high calories), but this is about oil A vs. oil B, neither of which have possibly disease-ridden animal parts or droppings.

Oh, and mel67--be careful...it's NOT only in fast food meat these things are happening...

I guess I'm just naturally so cynical about things that none of this information suprises me in the least. Maybe that's sad because finding out this new information won't change the way I eat (although I've already changed a lot of things based on trying to become healthier anyway, but you know what I mean). I could read that McDonald's made their burger from raw sewage and rat meat, and I would still eat it once in a while
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Old 06-24-2006, 11:54 AM   #32  
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Smart, what they feed the animals may not make a difference in how the meat tastes... although I would dispute that... but it sure makes a difference in what we are putting into our bodies! My parents raised beef cattle... properly I might add... so I do consider myself to have some knowledge of this particular subject.

And LOL it is fine if people don't mind eating fecal matter in their hamburgers and soft drinks; personally I do.

As far as the woman who got the coffee burns... I totally agreed that the lawsuit was ridiculous... until I saw pictures of her legs and the actual burns. Yikes! Nothing anywhere remotely close to "normal" hot coffee did that!!!! The burns were horrendous.
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Old 06-24-2006, 12:12 PM   #33  
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I didn't say I WANTED fecal matter in my food, but that it is more of an animal cruelty issue in my mind. Many animals eaten around the world eat fecal matter (dog..hhmm). I know we don't but I'm saying the govt should step into that because it is an animal cruelty issue (we aren't the only ones of concern that they govt should protect).
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Old 06-24-2006, 02:18 PM   #34  
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I'd like to point out that there is an acceptable fecal matter limit in bottled water...a level of fecal bacteria that is acceptable in a bottle of bottled water according to regulations. This isn't just a meat problem. Its not pleasant to think about, but fecal matter and fecal coliforms are everywhere. Organic veggies usually test high for fecal coliforms, as do conventionally farmed produce. And meat is probably the area we least have to worry about this - cooking kills any harmful bacteria that come from fecal matter, but you don't always cook your veggies (and certainly not your bottled water!).

There isn't, however, an acceptable level for fecal coliforms in municipal tap water - none can be detected or the water is declared to be not up to standard. So if you're really worried about eliminating fecal matter from your food sources, drink tap water.
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Old 06-24-2006, 02:43 PM   #35  
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mandalinn--I've heard many times that tap water is actually much safer than bottled, so just chiming in to agree

I do think what an animal eats makes a difference as to how the meat tastes (on another post just yesterday somewhere here on 3FC was mention of how meat from animals who eat primarily corn diets tastes much better, likely because of the higher amounts of sugar in corn versus other animal feeds). However, I also think that there are so many additives and whatnot nowadays that the flavor of the actual meat itself doesn't even matter. Besides, I know that I, for one, can't really pinpoint the flavor of the meat at McD's...not with the bun and the ketchup and the pickles and the mustard and the onions and the...I bet no one would even notice if they started using a different type of meat, so long as the texture still resembled that of a burger
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