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Annik 10-24-2013 02:36 PM

Aspartame: Recommended by Nutritionists But It Piles on the Pounds
 
Aspartame: Recommended by Nutritionists But It Can Make You Pile on the Pounds


I am joining the campaign to stop aspartame dead in its tracks! This stuff is insidious and so encouraged by doctors and diabetes specialists!

nelie 10-24-2013 03:05 PM

Well I don't think aspartame is recommended by doctors and diabetes specialists, it is more than often sugar is discouraged and people look for alternatives. Also, I'd say Mercola.com shouldn't be considered a source but if you happen to find something from there, I'd look elsewhere to validate as there have been a lot of misinformation and information that has been fabricated on that site.

The NIH site PubMed is a great site for fact checking, here is a good article from 2010 on the subject.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/

This is pretty much in line with other recent research that has come out in the past couple years and one reason I've personally cut out most sweeteners.

CherryQuinn 10-27-2013 08:37 AM

I drink 3-4 diet pepsi a day and put fake sugar in my coffees or baked goods. I don't gain weight because of it . Lol.

Annik 10-27-2013 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CherryQuinn (Post 4870985)
I drink 3-4 diet pepsi a day and put fake sugar in my coffees or baked goods. I don't gain weight because of it . Lol.

Cherry,

Insight from 'The Doctors' tv show that sheds light on artificial sweeteners as they are found in diet pop.

View this clip then this one.

good luck!

Annik

Annik 10-27-2013 09:02 AM

Physicians Against Aspartame

Rounding up wisdom from a variety of sources about aspartame and other artificial sweeteners

Consumer reports on Aspartame

Annik 10-27-2013 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by nelie (Post 4869421)
Well I don't think aspartame is recommended by doctors and diabetes specialists, it is more than often sugar is discouraged and people look for alternatives.

In fact, the American and Canadian Diabetes Associations do recommend it.

Monsanto, maker of Nutrasweet, is their very generous funding donor.

There is a nutrasweet label on many CDA cookbooks and the product is mentioned by name in their campaign literature.

Heather 10-27-2013 09:48 AM

I used artificial sweeteners throughout my weight loss and successfully lost over 100 pounds drinking diet soda, putting splenda in my coffee and eating diet pudding with sweetener. However, I've begun reducing my use of artificial sweeteners, because unlike products like caffeine and wine, which are sometimes found to be good for us and other times found not to be so good, I've never seen a research study that shows that artificial sweeteners are good for our health.

That said, it's difficult for research to pinpoint them as a cause of weight gain in humans. In fact, in the first article linked to on this thread, the statement was made: "research has repeatedly demonstrated that artificial sweeteners actually make you gain equal or more weight than regular sugar." I don't know that any of the studies they cited actually show that. Several of the references were about artificial sweeteners ability to increase hunger, not weight gain. Another looked at the relationship between sweetener use and consumption of sugar (finding different results for men and women). The last article discussed a correlation between consumption of artificial sweeteners and weight gain, but that doesn't demonstrate causality. So I am having trouble taking the rest of the article seriously, especially as it seems to use scare tactics ("think formaldehyde"). That said, I have seen a number of credible studies showing how these sweeteners don't necessarily fool us as well as we think they should, so I do think there's something to that piece of it. It's one of the reasons I've been cutting it from my diet.

So I'm not saying people should or should not use artificial sweeteners. But I am saying that it's difficult to do definitive research in human on and I'm not sure there's good evidence to show that the sweeteners cause weight gain. There may be other reasons not to use it, however.

CherryQuinn 10-27-2013 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Annik (Post 4870997)
Cherry,

Insight from 'The Doctors' tv show that sheds light on artificial sweeteners as they are found in diet pop.

View this clip then this one.

good luck!

Annik


No thanks I dont need tv doctors lol I dont need dr.Phil or any of the others either. I lose weight justtt fine drinking 0 calorie drinks and I have a clean bill of health.

nelie 10-27-2013 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Annik (Post 4871011)
In fact, the American and Canadian Diabetes Associations do recommend it.

Monsanto, maker of Nutrasweet, is their very generous funding donor.

There is a nutrasweet label on many CDA cookbooks and the product is mentioned by name in their campaign literature.

I don't know about the CDA but the ADA basically doesn't recommend any sweeteners. They just list details that they are approved by the FDA with no stance for or against.
http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fit...al-sweeteners/

I found a letter as far back as 1999 that there were emails accusing the ADA to be in association with Monsanto and other companies to push artificial sweeteners. Back them, they claimed that as false and as always their stance has been that they recommend using the limits set by the FDA when using artificial sweeteners and have no recommendation for or against the sweeteners, other than following any guidelines set by the FDA.

Now the FDA isn't infallible but that seems like the right stance to take from my point of view.

And this is the Canadian Diabetes Association, their recommendation is actually a bit stronger against artificial sweeteners than the US one. They seem to indicate that you may want to choose sugar over artificial sweeteners.
http://www.diabetes.ca/diabetes-and-...on/sweeteners/

Annik 10-27-2013 12:32 PM

Artificial Sweeteners Tied to Obesity and Type 2 Diabetese

I stand corrected. I see the ADA and the CDA are now themselves starting to ask questions about aspartame. Good.:

Is Aspartame Really Safer....

nelie 10-27-2013 12:47 PM

And again, I'd stress the importance of not relying on someone else's interpretation of studies, PubMed has a lot of great info on all the various studies published around the world that are considered to be peer reviewed. I will say it is a bit of abuse of the scientific method to take 1 study as proof of something as you do need repeatable evidence.

From what I've read, artificial sweeteners can affect some people and not others. One way they may affect people is by actually making them hungrier since artificial sweeteners are non-nutrient. In that case, it may be better to just eat sugar and count your calories.

Annik 10-27-2013 12:56 PM

2010 Yale Journal of Biology and Medicine: Gain weight by “going diet?” Artificial sweeteners and the neurobiology of sugar cravings

Brought to you by Pepsi at the Canadian Nurses' Association!

It's Safe!

kaplods 10-27-2013 01:30 PM

Whatdoesthesciencesay.com

I think this blogger does a really good job of evaluating, critiquing and summarizing the research (and the hoaxes, urban legends, and falsehoods that are passed along as "common knowledge).

Some of the information is a bit technical for anyone without advanced high school or entry level college chemistry, statistics and/or research methodology and design, but I think it's still worth wading through anyway.

I only found his blog today looking for some of the research I based my own conclusions upon. He does a much more thorough job of it than I could.


If I had to summarize the aspartame science



1. Caloric intake excess, not sweeteners make you fat.

2. Sweeteners may increase hunger, but that hasn't been established, especially in humans. Sugar also increases hunger.

3. If you control caloric intake, weight will not be impacted.

4. Most of the adverse affects of aspartame are actually related to folate deficiency and folate metabolism.

What that means is that if you are folate deficient, aspartame will make it worse. The worst (and proven) symptoms associated with aspartame are actually a result of the folate deficiency. Eating plenty of fruits and vegetables (or a folic acid supplement) will solve the problem.

Some people have sensitivities to folates and/or the amino acid phenylalanine. If aspartame causes a person adverse symptoms, so will other foods containing the folates and/or amino acid, even "healthy" foods like fruits, vegetables, and proteins) containing those substances.



#4 really breaks down even further.


If you have aspartame-triggered symptoms, eat more fruits and vegetables or take a folic acid supplement.

If symptoms improve or disappear, you probably had a folate deficiency.

If symptoms worsen, you may have a sensitivity to folates. You will have to avoid aspartame AND the fruits and vegetables that also trigger symptoms.


Plenylalanine sensitivity is harder to address, because it's an essential amino acid, and avoiding phenylalanine is difficult, unpleasant, and generally not a good idea unless absolutely necessary. Essentially such a diet is often describes as "if it tastes good, you can't have it," and the list of what you can't eat will be much longer than that of what you can.

nelie 10-27-2013 03:03 PM

That is interesting Kaplods. I just personally try to steer away from most sweeteners, artificial or otherwise. Stevia seems to be a fan of many people but although stevia has been used for centuries, it hasn't been used in the refined way that we use it. I have a major concern about agave so I stopped using it. Proceed with caution is my overall belief.

Annik 10-27-2013 03:44 PM

Nelie,

Going back to Mercola's article at the beginning. His advice is that we try to wean ourselves from our love of sweets.

There is wisdom in that.

Annik


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