3 Fat Chicks on a Diet Weight Loss Community  

Go Back   3 Fat Chicks on a Diet Weight Loss Community > Diet Central > Weight Loss News and Current Events

Weight Loss News and Current Events Discuss the latest weight loss news headlines and major events.

The TYRANNY of the ideal image of beauty!!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-25-2011, 10:17 AM   #1
Member
 
Jamie1985's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 62

S/C/G: 200/see ticker/140

Height: 5'7"

Exclamation The TYRANNY of the ideal image of beauty!!

MEDIA!!!! UGH!

So I was asked to watch this video for a class, so I am posting a trailor to the video, it is called "Killing Us Softly 4" by Jean Kilbourn. I wanted to see what you ladies think of this, how the media makes you feel, how it has affected your weight loss journey, or you before you weight loss began, or even how you set your own goals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTlmho_RovY
__________________
~~~Big Goal~~~
Jamie1985 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2011, 11:15 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
CanadianCutie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: London, ON
Posts: 1,584

S/C/G: 331/283/250(for now)

Height: 5'3"

Default

We watched a few of the previous versions of this in my psychology and sociology classes in college. It was eye opening for a lot of the younger students (I was a mature student at 31).
__________________


www.goodreads.com/Saela

Doing this one day at a time.
CanadianCutie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2011, 05:53 PM   #3
Member
 
Jamie1985's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 62

S/C/G: 200/see ticker/140

Height: 5'7"

Default

Yea I definitely knew about it before class but seeing the extremes and thinking about the implications really got to me. It makes me sick to an extent to see how women are portrayed...
__________________
~~~Big Goal~~~
Jamie1985 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2011, 05:46 PM   #4
Healthy student
 
PollifaxFive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 149

S/C/G: 200 / ticker / 145

Default

That was really interesting. I'm glad I found that link. It really helps to highlight some of the main dilemmas in the media-created female body.
__________________


Mini Goal: 160 lbs
PollifaxFive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2011, 07:49 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
CherryQuinn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Newfoundland
Posts: 638

S/C/G: 335/see ticker/135

Height: 5'7 -171ish cm

Default

I've been so stunned lately by the size of models on sites I shop or browse. Even if i ever make my goal weight or goal size of 6, I can never achieve that ideal of beauty. I'm too tall and broad, and I have large natural girlies. I don't think many girls can, it doesn't even look natural or attractive to be like 60lbs and 5'10 like the models I see. Some of them model clothes sideways and its like their waists aren't even there anymore. Its so sad and depressing to see all these girls that are my age or younger starving themselves to get something thats only created in photoshop.
CherryQuinn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2011, 08:31 AM   #6
Healthy student
 
PollifaxFive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 149

S/C/G: 200 / ticker / 145

Default

Yeah, I will never be any type of ideal: I'll never be thin AND I'll never be curvy, so I'm too fat for the thin girls and too flat for the Real-Woman party. We just have to aim to be Healthy and trust that whoever sees our bodies (besides ourselves, of course ) love us enough to love our bodies too.
__________________


Mini Goal: 160 lbs

Last edited by PollifaxFive : 11-27-2011 at 08:31 AM.
PollifaxFive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-19-2011, 06:07 PM   #7
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 26

Default

That was a very insightful video. I hope all females are able to realize that there is no ideal body image. Everyone is different because our bodies are not identical. This has always been my motivation to maintain my 5'5" 136 lbs frame. I love my body so much and do not wish to succumb to the idolized body looks.
jttw18 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2011, 03:22 PM   #8
Long-term maintainer
 
RedPanda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 147

Default

I had mixed reactions to the video.

While I hate to see adverts in which women's bodies are portrayed as objects (I literally gasped out loud at the "woman as scissors" image) I can't see anything wrong with an image of a women in lingerie to sell lingerie. Clearly, it's inappropriate to use an image of a lingerie-clad woman to sell beer to men (because the woman is taken out of context and presented as an object) but there's nothing wrong with using the same image to market lingerie to women.

In advertising and the broader media, context and intent are everything. Often the people behind campaigns intended to create more positive media portrayals of women are doing themselves a disservice by casting their net too wide.
__________________
Maintaining a 90-pound weight loss since 2003.
RedPanda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2011, 10:51 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
tiffany0809's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 456

Default

It's widely known how airbrushed models are in their photos, but videos like this are always eye opening.

Does anyone feel that some people dont understand the extremes that models go through to be thin, and that photos are photoshopped and women don't really look like that? I am really specifically referring to men. Has anyone ever felt pressured to look like this "ideal" by someone other than themselves? I once had a boyfriend in my early 20s who I felt didn't understand that supermodels don't even look like supermodels.
__________________
tiffany0809 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2011, 09:31 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
mammasita's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: VA
Posts: 1,136

S/C/G: 218/ticker/159

Height: 5'7"

Default

Kate Winslet has always been one of my favorites.
__________________



BMI - 29.6

Goal #1 - 196 (10%) | Goal #2 - 185 | Goal #3 - 174 (20%) | Goal #4 - 165 | GOAL
- 155
mammasita is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2012, 10:54 PM   #11
Member
 
itsjustmagic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: New York
Posts: 77

S/C/G: 320/315/220

Height: 5'10

Default

Wow, thank you for sharing this video. I've been struggling with my weight for as long as I can remember. I have this idea in my head that I have to be 120 pounds. I'm far, far, from that, but that was my overall goal when I started my weight loss journey. I know now, that not only is 120 unrealistic for my height and body shape, but it's OK not to be that thin. I've updated my weight loss tracker and changed my goals. I would still like to be a healthy weight somewhere in the 100 range, but I'll be happy just to lose 100 pounds and get down to 220. There's nothing wrong with being plus sized, as long as you're healthy. Thank you again for sharing this link. It has really opened my eyes.
__________________


Mini Goals:
See the 200's
See the 100's
Get out of the plus sizes
Overall goal weight of 150
Able to jog an entire mile

If you donít like something, change it. If you canít change it, change your attitude.
itsjustmagic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2012, 11:01 PM   #12
PCOS/IR/Hypothyroid
 
astrophe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,754

Height: 5'8"

Default

Yes. Kilbourne's movies and book have been around a while. I remember getting into it in college.

Check out www.about-face.org -- esp the comments on the loser gallery and winner gallery for ads that have been submitted.

There's lots of things out there to support a healthier approach to body image. I won't list all the books ever but I usually suggest this one since it is teen friendly too.

Kaz Cooke's "Real Gorgeous"
http://www.amazon.com/Real-Gorgeous-.../dp/0393313557

Another one I like is the "Quest for Human Beauty"

http://www.amazon.com/The-Quest-Huma...1867014&sr=8-1

Put it into a larger context and people see that decorating selves has been a human thing for ages, and WHAT we find beautiful is as varied as people themselves are.

Quote:
I wanted to see what you ladies think of this, how the media makes you feel, how it has affected your weight loss journey, or you before you weight loss began, or even how you set your own goals.
Even when young I was not all that into pop culture. TV, media -- hohum. But since the teens and 20's youth culture is heavily into it, it's a lonely thing not to participate in it when you yourself are young.

When I was losing weight in my 20's BEFORE my dx, I found it frustrating to have to wade through so much of it trying to seek sane information about nutrition, health, etc. I knew something was wrong with me but a 14 day diet from a mag wasn't going to solve it! So was being student broke all the time. No health ins meant no dx! So for me it was frustration. It was early days of the Internet yet, so seeking info that way was not esp good yet.

I did what I could with what a had but a lot of it was treading water, and frankly? When it is significant weight gain from a condition, listening to friends go on about 20lbs or less from the "freshman 15" in college gets ooooold.

So does listening to body bashing as female bonding ritual. Blaaah.

Now that I have a full dx, and I'm a married 30's with a kid... it's a different scene. I have more money so I can spend it on better food, workout clothes, gym membership, seeing my endoc as often as I need to, etc. I also have more knowledge about what is WITH me, so I can better seek out answers. If you don't know you are hypothyroid, how do you look support info up? Ditto PCOS/IR? I don't have to spend ages at the library trying to find the unfindable. Google is my friend. LOL.

Peers are better too. My friends are wider in age range and hearing perspectives from elders is refreshing. More likely to be concerned about their bodies from fitness and health perspectives rather than body image issues. Most have made peace with looking like themselves and are happy in themselves.

Today I was talking to a 90 yr old telling me about her chair exercise class at her new retirement living complex and how she's liking it. This is a woman who is NINETY. Ok, a bit stooped in her walk, but she walks! She volunteers in the community, attends protests (riding in a shaded truck with umbrella, hat and long sleeves, no longer marching with a sign in the sun because she has sun concerns), is planning a carribean cruise... So she adapts for her age. Fine. But she does whatever she dang wants when she wants! Go her! I doubt she's listening to what media tells her what 90 yr old are "supposed" to be doing.

Quote:
I once had a boyfriend in my early 20s who I felt didn't understand that supermodels don't even look like supermodels.
When teens and 20's have little experience in dating or living with someone, their expectations/outlook in dating partners is colored a bit too much by media and not enough by real life experience. They come down to earth eventually.


A.
__________________
Started Jan 2014:

Last edited by astrophe : 03-15-2012 at 11:50 PM.
astrophe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2012, 10:44 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
FattyFatFat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 220

Default

What amazes me is any one person feeling they have the right to define "beauty" or how another person should look. That's just... I don't know the word for it... but very disappointing in the human race in general.
__________________
Just because I can't see my feet does NOT mean I'm fat.
FattyFatFat is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Posts by members, moderators and admins are not considered medical advice
and no guarantee is made against accuracy.


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:22 AM.






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.3.2