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Old 01-17-2007, 12:06 PM   #46  
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hmmm, I just got new windows too, replaced the entire kitchen and french doors on the back and a new Anderson patio door.....they are great, the house feels about 15 degrees warmer. my old windows were AWFUL, talk about condensation, ice build-up, OY!

worked out this morning managed 23 mins. of HARD cardio (80% HR and a good sweat) then did chest/biceps. I'm on day #16 of consistent exercise and I feel so much better than when i don't exercise. I hope to get to 3 hours this week, that's my first goal. it seems that the old muscles really do have some memory left in them.....
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Ennay, thanks for the info! I figured as much but it's nice to know for sure. Think I'll stay off the scale the day after strength stuff.

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I'm really having a crummy day.. my accesses at work aren't "work-ing".. so I'm a little frustrated.. I've drunk one cup of coffee and my shake this morning.. I can't wait to walk after work.. I need some release!

I'm craving BAD FOOD.. I won't break into it, however, I crave a hershey bar and jif pnut butter to dip it in. I know.. bad me.. its just cause my day isn't going so hot is all. It will pass.. and.. besides, I have a smart ones brownie waiting for me at home. lol...

And..... I'm cold and complainy.

I know. Its stupid.. ::raising hand:: can I go home now? lol

I did do walk four miles yesterday.. I'll do the same today. I have my water (I love my water).. and my coffee.. (just two 16oz. cups today)... my Lean Cuisine teriyaki bowl and my shakes. I'm not sure about supper tonight... hm... How is everyone else?

Did I mention today how glad I am I found you guys again? Yep, I really am...
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i lost another 3lbs but i cant get excited because my digital scale jumps around so much but i did get on it 2x
i also worked out but my eating was not the best
SD Gal-sorry your day went bad hopefully tomorrow wil be better
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Well, I just got back from walking the dog and did 2.75 miles on the TM this a.m. (ran out of time ) Foodwise I've been doing pretty well. I did have one 2,000 calorie day on Wed but other than that I'm pretty much hitting the 1,500 calories a day mark. I have no energy this week. I have a cold; nothing bad but I guess it's just zapping my energy. Tomorrow is weigh-in day and I am hoping the scale is down. I don't feel like it is, but that could just be my sluggish, spud-like attitude this week. I woke up at 1a.m. last night cold and my stomach was growling loudly! My feet were freezing cold even though I had on socks and sleep under a mountain of blankets. I actually had to get up and ate 4 pretzels to shut my stomach up. Cripes, I can't even get away from it all even when I sleep!

SD Gal -- I hear you about wanting bad food. I was reading another thread yesterday and someone was doing their utmost to resist the brownies in the cafeteria at their work. Now all I've been thinking about since I read this is brownies. Actually, brownie batter cause I don't need to bake them; I like the batter better than the brownies! Baker's one bowl brownies are just rolling around in my head. Tomorrow is my weigh-in day and I'm afraid that if that scale doesn't go down I'll give in to a brownie batter binge. Might be that TOM is probably on it's way too! (Took me awhile to figure out what TOM meant. I kept wondering how everyone knew this Tom guy. How duh can I be? ). I like Lean Cuisine stuff too. Have you tried their spinach/mushroom pizza and paninni sandwiches? Very yummy. Hope today is going better for ya!

Mia, I have a digital scale too. If I lean too far forwards or backwards the numbers can shift. Also, if it bops back and forth between two numbers it means that it's at the half lb. mark. Hope your loss is true!

Hope everyone else is doing well!

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Ok, so I had a good eating day yesterday and NOPE, didn't break into the chocolate & pnut butter.. however, I did have a Smart Ones brownie.. so.. I still got my chocolate

I left work early today, stress on the job has my stomach in knots, which btw, isn't condusive to a happy physical body! Poor morale at work, it sucks. I'll get over it, I always do.

I'll do my two miles tonight when my honey gets home. We're going to eat light and have a big salad with some chicken.. that should be just fine.

I just need to work through this weird feeling I've got of frustration..

Hope everyone had a great day. Cheers~
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ITRM,

I know what cha mean... seriously though.. its nice to know WW has something that isn't going to nail me on WI day. lol..

Lean Cuisine has my favorite foods.. their brick oven pizza is SMASHING! I love it. And the pnut thai noodles? Yes... I could eat them every day. lol. I had the regular everything pizza for lunch today.. bfast consisted of coffee (my two 16oz cups with splenda cause it gets me going in the morning. lol) and a banana.. cause my stomach just wasn't feeling right. I havent had any of my shakes today but I think I'll have it with supper.

Keep going! You'll do fabulous!
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About the info for whoever asked I usually hit google when i want to know something. I have read alot on mercolas site and westonprice. SO I do like reading their info.

Anyhow. I just skimmed over the post. Hope everyone is doing well and losing. I wanted to jump on here and ask for those of you who pray to please be praying for us. Just found out last nite that my 14 year old daughter is cutting herself. Yeah. We have removed all sharp objects and have gone thru her anime collection and it seems alot of it is not so innocent. (no porn) but extremely violent stuff!!! She had asked me fo a subscription to shonenjump and it seemed innocent enough but the stuff is full of terrible stuff! Even the few pages I went thru were like people severed and etc. I don't really feel like going into detail but basically I took authority over this and prayed and Joey and I went thru her room last nite getting rid of ALOT of stuff!! It seems during x~mas her reclusiveness hit a plateau more than usual and I figured it was due to being subjected to her dad for his once a year visit. I am sure that had to do with it etc but this evil spirit attacking her was also feeding off all this crap. Even found out she has been having terrible nitemares of peoples flesh falling off etc. That her "JEssie" doll she has had since 6 she caught it walking one nite!! It's in the trash now!

We are trying to handle this delicately and explaining things but no matter what she could be angry. She has been wanting to do homeschool for two years and because we are getting some aid have not been able to(I don't think they allow it) but we have made the decision that we are going to have to. She absolutely HATES going to school. (She also has a weight problem I have been trying to help her with w/out "focusing" on it if ya know what I mean. She was 304 and is now down to 287. I weigh her maybe once a month) Anyhow we feel maybe now is the time for her to be here with me. Eat the healthier foods at home cause the free lunch and breakfast at school is a bunch of crap and half the times she don't eat the breakfast. (We actually want to eventually get to the point where they all eat at home or are sent stuff from home.) I have tried to encourage her with exercise and doing it with her in the past but she was being really bad about it. I explained to her if this is what she really wants then we will do it but she has to keep her grades up, that she is going to have to walk with me 40 minutes -1 hour 5 days a week for "p.e." etc. She is all for it and even went with me today for 40 minutes. We have an apt on monday to meet with the home study program. *sigh* Alot going on but I know God is in control and every day I pray for me to be the mom and wife I am supposed to be and Joet the dad and hubby etc. Yesterday I had also prayed for him to show us if there were any problems in our family to show us and to help us etc and yesterday I stayed home and went on a huge cleaning spree. I normally don't go in her stuff at all let alone her room but went looking for a handkerchief to wear and came across one of our huge kitchen knives and stab marks in the wall. Had her come out to the garage later to talk about that and seen a slash on her arm and another one! Thank God she was open to talking with us etc.

I kept it cool and started praying and wondering what was going on I knew there were little to no outside influences so it had to be coming from inside and things she was doing and went into her room with Joe to look around, etc. Started looking thru all the anime stuff and seen how violent and demonic it is. Got rid of it!

She is in good spirits today. Arrrggghhhh
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jasmine i sorry to hear that about your daughter i guess i have those teenage years to look forward to

well i worked out today im getting the hang of that but my eating still sucks
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Hi everyone! Jasmine, I will pray for you and her, we had a hard time with our daughter, mainly because of her dad and there relationship and non relationship, she had depression really bad and refused to see a doc. I did get her help, but half the time she would not show up, or even if I drove her watched her go in, she would take off again, then meet me when it was time to go home. Girls I think at times can be more difficult then guys. At least she is talking to you, that is a real biggie, I know with your guidance and help with schooling and food and exercise, she will do well. It is such a terrifying (SP) time for you and hubby. I believe with Gods strength, you will get thru this. You have to be strong and strict with her, maybe tell her it will be on a trial basis, to see how she does. A little fear goes a long way. And lots of love does too, which I am sure she already gets, but she has to realize that herself.

I went about my arm yesterday, seem's the operation I really did not want is the only one that will give me hopefully, full motion and use of my arm. He is booking it, but it maybe a couple of months, I was hoping sooner, as I want to get it over and healed before the summer. Healing times is 3 to 6 mths.
Thanks for the info on your mom's knee operation. It is good to hear the positives.

Spent last night at the hospital with Dad, his back pain got so bad he could not stand it. At least they did X-rays and we know nothing is broken, they gave him a pain shot with a muscle relaxer in it and he is on advil at home today. That only took seven hours to get done. But better he is doing good, than in terrible pain.

Thanks also ladies for your input about windows. Still have not figured out where I will borrow that from, am trying to get it on one of the lower interest cards for a certain period of time. Fun wow!

I did not get decent food in yesterday or today. Will try and do better tomorrow. No exercise yesterday, but about 50-60 mins. floor today.
Take care everyone, remember Jasmine we are here for you!
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Jasmine, I did not find out that my daughter was taking off, till she was well into adulthood. She is now a Child and Youth Worker, helping kids in all kinds of situations from 0 to 17, she works for a Crisis Centre and often goes out to see parents and kids, to help them with idea's, what is available in the area for help, she always talks one on one with the parents and kids to see each point of view. She can sometimes get more out of the kids talking this way. Not that I don't think your doing a good job Jasmine. But I would never of thought this girl of mine would choose this as a career.
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Jasmine, so sorry to hear about your daughter. I just saw something on a program this week about a school for the troubled/bad kids that they stopped using the government funded food (basically all crap) and do all the cooking themselves, fresh fruits/veggies/ good protein (I think no meat), no soda or candy machines in the building. Amazingly these kids are all doing much much better in behavior and school work. And the cost was the same as all the crap the government says is good for you. What you eat absolutely affects your behavior. My kids almost never, ever buy their lunch at school. Oldest once in a while (when I run out of bread!), the two younger ones never. Also, does your daughter have a computer in her room? Sorry, but that's a huge no-no in my book. My kids complain that all their friends have computers and cell phones and tvs and stuff in their rooms. For one, they don't need it in their rooms and the internet is like opening your door and letting the whole world in -- the good, the bad and the ugly. And these kid's just don't have the skills to be able to sort out the difference. Adults can, but kids are just kids. Our computer is in our living room. I won't even put it in the basement; out of parent's sight is trouble. I hope you can work things out for your family. I'll say a pray for you and your family.

Well, the scale actually did go down 1 lb. from last week. I'm very pleased! Just got done 25 minutes on the total gym and am off to walk the doggie.

SD - I never did give into the brownie batter temptation. If today hadn't been weigh-in day for me I might have; but the urge has passed (at least for now! ). Hope everyone else is doing well!

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Jasmine: Congrats on the loss!! You are sooo close! And I am sooo excited for you! YEAH YEAH YEAH!


Marbleflys:
Don't be fooled! I'm not good at dieting. I will do good for about a week, then have a slipup. The only difference between my dieting now and my dieting before 3FC, is that I have realized the a slipup is not the end of the world. For example, if in the afternoon before my afternoon snack, I eat horribly, then I just won't have my planned afternoon snack, I have dinner, but won't eat my evening snack. And then next day I just keep on with my planned diet for the day. Even if you aren't dieting, I would still keep an eye on the nutritional information. I've been noticing that a lot of healthy packaged items are sometimes really high in calories, and although you are only eating an average amount, and it's healthy, it could still be causing you to gain weight because your calories in are higher than your calories out.

Mimi: I've been growing my hair for almost 4 years, and it's still only halfway down my back, even when I skip a month of a hair cut. Many times I've been tempted to "cut my losses," but I always feel differently the next day. I just can't let it go! Haha. I just love the option to have more styles, even if most days I just put it in a pony tail . And I remember when I worked at NETELLER (www.neteller.com), and everything seemed that it was ALWAYS down! It was sooo frusterating. Grr!

Ennay: Welcome back! I was just wondering the other day where you were at, I hadn't seen you in a while

Sharon: Cabouche is doing well. He's healing very fast, and he's not even mad at me! lol. He was trying to knead me the day he came home (1 day after the operation) and his poor little paw was just shaking. And he would try to jump, and his little legs were giving out on him, so I just carried him everywhere and babied him hehe. And I figure as long as I have my 45 minute workout where my heart rate is in the zone, then really the extra 20 minutes, although not as much of an impact, is still something . And I use Pam. But I use the extra virgin olive oil Pam. And eep on the windows. Did everything work out?

Mia: She posted a couple days ago, but has been busy with finals etc.

Jasmine: I am really sorry to hear about the troubles on the homefront.
I would like to offer you some advice if you're willing to hear it.

I'm 23 years old. I remember what it was like being 16.
I don't share this with many people. But I love you girls and I trust you girls with everything.
I was also a cutter. I used to use razorblades, safety pins, knives, whatever I could get my hands on.
What I would like to share with you is some insight in to my own mentality at that time, and my mentality through the healing process, and what I needed from my dad (and unfortunately never got).
I felt so alone, so depressed. The only word to this day is to describe myself as "dead inside." I would hurt so bad, but at the same time, I would feel like I was numb and unfeeling. I would use various tactics to try and "call out" for help to my father. And he just never got it. It seemed to me at the time that he was oblivious to me and my problems. I didn't realize until I was older and healing that I wasn't being fair to him. I was making him be a mind reader, which he was not.
I was very depressed. I used to sit in my rocking chair in front of my bedroom window and just cry. That was my release when I was 14. Around the time I turned 16, I couldn't even cry anymore. The tears would JUST not come, so I just started scratching my skin with a safety pin to see if I could feel it, and it stemmed from there.
I tried to see my school counsellor, but my dad didn't like me doing that because she was a feminist, and my dad was in a life long battle with feminists (being a single father, and having his own issues). So I wasn't allowed to see her anymore. I was so angry. You'd never guess me to be the type if you knew me when I was younger. I was quiet, shy until people got to know me, an academic, I loved to read, great grades (GPA 3.65), Principle's Honour Roll, that sort of thing.
If I can give you ANY advice, it will be this.
I would turn your focus from the violent images (teens know better, and most are able to distinguish between what is real and what is not real), and start focusing on what's going on inside her head. Sit down, write out all the questions you want to ask, and make sure to ask EVERYTHING. Get her in to see a counselor or a psychiatrist. THIS IS KEY! I wasn't able to start dealing with my emotions until I was an adult, and started seeing a psychiatrist. With all the physical/mental/sexual abuse I received (not from my father, but from other family members), I had ALOT of issues to work out. Children are growing up mentally younger and younger every day, and she may not know how to deal with the things going on inside of her.
Also, having been an overweight child, my dad would always be honest with me. If I asked him if he was fat, he would say I wasn't fat, but I could stand to lose a couple pounds for health reasons. I keep thinking of how I would feel if my mother asked me to stand on a scale once a month. Make sure she's okay with this. If not, I would just let the doctor weigh her during her checkups. At her young age, just focusing on exercise and eating healthy is good without all the hangups of losing weight combined with societies views on what women should look like/act like. I am not trying to criticize you, just telling you how I would feel if my parents did that to me.
So the things I need to stress are:
- COUNSELOR!!
- More communication with all the questions parents don't ask
- Focus on self esteem, improving it, always encouraging and complimenting
- Focus on getting healthy, less on body image
- Make sure she knows that SHE IS NOT A BAD PERSON for what she is doing. There is probably a lot of guilt attached to you finding out what she's doing. That she may have let you down in some way. And a lot of relief at the same time because she doesn't have to hide it anymore.
- If you guys are firm believers in religions, that could be her anchoring point, where she can place her faith that she will be alright.

My heart really goes out to you guys. Get knowledge, and get it fast. Talk to people, do some internet surfing. Get the facts on the this. Make sure you are armed with the answers to the questions she has. Knowledge is power. The more you understand about this disease, the more you can help her understand. It's a self image disease, much like EDs. She needs professional help, I can not stress this enough.

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Hi guys;

missed the thread yesterday........OY! Jasmine, I feel for you...as the single parent of a former rebellous, unhappy overweight teenage daughter, I know you want to shield your child and keep her safe, healthy and happy.....(it ain't easy).

Get some outside help for her....your insurance should approve counseling by a social worker who acts in a psych. setting. (MSW)...you need professional intervention along with prayers....and further isolating her might not be the best solution

14 year old girls are difficult, complex with a full set of developing hormones and a mindset that can change in 10 mins. 10X a day.....

my daughter was reclusive at home, hated me, blamed me for her weight, loved her friends, ran away 3X in one year...(from NJ to Texas) and it took 3 years to get her back on track, I never could have done it alone and her father took an active loving roll....he was a baffled as I was.

I hope things go well for you.

On a lighter note......I've continued my daily cardio/wts. training and don't have too much appetite for sweets/chips/etc....(but I'd love a real strong spicey bloody mary right now)....the Xmas chocolates are going stale.

what about everyone else?
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Thanx everyone for the support! miafluker, Canuk4, Is that really me,

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Jasmine, I will pray for you and her, we had a hard time with our daughter, mainly because of her dad and there relationship and non relationship, she had depression really bad and refused to see a doc. I did get her help, but half the time she would not show up, or even if I drove her watched her go in, she would take off again, then meet me when it was time to go home. Girls I think at times can be more difficult then guys. At least she is talking to you, that is a real biggie,
I hear ya on that one. She is definately the quiet type just like her dad. Sometimes I ask her a question and she won't answer me at all! It makes me feel like smacking her but I know that is just me trying to "control" the situation thru anger and that is not what I am about. I bite my tongue and try to ask her again and if she don't respond, let it go. When we were going thru the divorce 2 years ago the mediator recommended counseling for all kids so I took them and Kass was the only one we felt needed longer therapy but as you know that takes a while to establish rapport and trust with a child. We had a few visits but I wound up losing the van in the divorce, (he wanted it I said here, have it then! Lets not fight about it and just get it over with. He of course never made another payment and it was repo'd) Anyhow so the visits came to a halt. Joey and I have talked about more counseling but since we MAy be moving we are going to try to wait til Mt. It won't do her much good to get attached and then to move etc. I am sure all of you know what I mean and this is something that would take time of trust etc built up and her wanting to open up to talk, not just a few sessions and there your fine etc. I am also going to need to investigate out there to find a great christian counselor etc.

For now I am glad she does talk to us and generally she does spend time with us. Usually in the evenings we all have dinner together. Afterward Joey takes a break and plays on the p.c. for maybe 30 minutes and then sometimes we play games or watch movies with them, bake, have family discussions etc. Sometimes the kids run off to play and do their own thing and alot of times she will be at our door wanting to hang out with us or just to talk w/out the other kids so we do that with her.

Like I have told Joe before, she is a teenager I am surprised she wants to talk to us at all!!

But sometimes when it comes to what really bugs her she is hesitant. She said it doesn't bother her her dad is not around and that she never thinks about him. (I think she is trying to protect herself) Every once in a while she likes to try to arm wrestle and goof off with Joe and the other two boys. She is alot different than I am and more like her dad so that is hard for me to undersatnd sometimes. I have always accepted the kids however they want to be cause I do not expect them to be like me etc(I know all kids do take some characteristics etc) You know what I mean.

I am glad that she feels safe at home and actually wants to be here. So many kids her age are trying to get away from home cause their parents are not there for them or are there but are drug addicts alcoholics abusive etc. So if whatever is going onout there in the real world I am glad that she feels safe here and wants to be here. I don't want her becoming a complete recluse though.

You know back when I was in high school I was 15 and 215 pounds. I did want to lose weight to impress some boy and started eating healthier and walking lots. Lost down to 12 jeans and 160 pounds or so. But even being 215 I felt humongous!! When I was 160 I felt good about myself and there were other girls similiar wieghts and some of my friends too. But still the "normal" weight for girls then was like 135 or so. size 5-7, not size 12. So even around them I felt "fat".

But nowadays it is different in school. All these girls(alot) want to be anorexic! SOme of these girls are 100-115 pounds!!! Kass is 287 so that is a big difference from 287 vs 115 or so as to my 160 vs. 135. SO I can see why she don't want to be around people! She has already been steadily losing between eating healthy and snacks just at dinner and home. They rarely get junk food at home. They get pizza out maybe once a month. The sad thing is when my mom passed away two years ago near x~mas. She was NOT this heavy! (She has always been heavy but not this bad) I have pics. But you know how weight is it creeps up on ya. I was looking back thru pics and was shocked. She probably gained a good 50 pounds or so in a short period of time. I know why too. She was 12 years old, her parents are going thru a messy divorce, mom has a new guy in the pic, grandma who she was close to dies!(my mom) my dad dies a few months later and then all of a sudden her dad just abandons her. Only comes by like once a year!! That is ALOT to deal with!!! I had to deal with all of it but I am an adult!! I had my heart broken with my ex but I also had Joe there to help pick up the pieces. Joe is here for all of them and even wants to adopt them if he could but she is 12! She accepts him and all but you know, Charlie is her dad. It may take years, even adult hood before she can really trust Joe and know he is going to really be there and is a dad to her. You all know what I mean. AAahhhhhh. Anyways. I am not going to stick her on a calorie diet but just try to make sure she eats healthy at almost every meal and if she is hungry? Eat some more. Usually at dinner I was trying to feed her similiar to me but maybe a little more. We are 82 pounds different so what may be enough for me may not be enough for her. Unfortunately in the past she really dug her heels in about NOT wanting to walk with me. I was caught between wondering if I should be a complete ***** or just let her have her way. On one hand it is her life and you can lead a horse to water...etc but on the other hand I KNOW the damage being fat can do! Diabetes, heart disease, cancer, etc. I have seen it first hand with both my parents. **** no! But when I tried to "force" her. She would literally drag her feet!! It would of taken violence to get her going and I ain't doing that. I tried bribing her too with money. She didn't care. Once in a while, like twice a month we would get her to go on a family bike ride to the park. Then it got cold. We need to start that again maybe tomorrow.

Anyhow trial basis. That is exactly what I told her. I am also going to make up a little contract for her too. Basically doing her school work w/out me nagging. Same with walking etc. Maybe this is the best thing she needs and maybe once her weight gets back down maybe she will start becoming more social. When we get to Mt we want to start doing alot more things like camping, hiking, fishing etc. Those are things we were starting to do out here before we lost the car.

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And lots of love does too, which I am sure she already gets, but she has to realize that herself.
Exactly. I know she does cause there are different times she tells me I am the best mom etc. A few months ago she even made a surprise tea party in my honor!!! It was so sweet!!

That one nite I felt bad about needing to get rid of the things but what I told her is this, you may think I am being a "pain in the butt" and may be mad at me or hate me for a while but my number one job is to protect you! SO you can be mad at me all you want. She mentioned me going thru her notebooks I grabbed etc and I said I could understand being upset about that and normally I would let you have your privacy, I do, but when you cut yourself you have lost the right to that for now.

That is like when she started acting really quiet and hardly coming out of her room during x~mas break etc. I kept asking Joe, is she okay? Is something wrong? HE thought, shes just being a teenager etc. It was also around the time we heard from the ex and he is dying etc. SO I tryed to talk to her and let her know if she is upset we are here to talk etc but was not pushy and tryed to encourage her to come out of her room and spend time with us etc.

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I went about my arm yesterday, seem's the operation I really did not want is the only one that will give me hopefully, full motion and use of my arm. He is booking it, but it maybe a couple of months, I was hoping sooner, as I want to get it over and healed before the summer. Healing times is 3 to 6 mths.
Thanks for the info on your mom's knee operation. It is good to hear the positives
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Okay sweetie at least it is set. Keep reminding us so we can be praying for you!!!
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Spent last night at the hospital with Dad, his back pain got so bad he could not stand it. At least they did X-rays and we know nothing is broken, they gave him a pain shot with a muscle relaxer in it and he is on advil at home today. That only took seven hours to get done. But better he is doing good, than in terrible pain.
Well I am glad. WHat about like chinese therapy not the acupuncture one but, you know what I mean?

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I did not get decent food in yesterday or today. Will try and do better tomorrow. No exercise yesterday, but about 50-60 mins. floor today.
Eat the healthy food! Even if you eat to much to lose at least eat the good stuff to be healthy!

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Take care everyone, remember Jasmine we are here for you!
Sharon

Aww that brought some tears to my eyes!! Thanx so much. I know we will be okay and I just keep telling myself the scripture, "Train up a child,..." No one ever said parenting would be easy. There were also some little wooden dolls attached to her notebooks. Sad faces on all of them!!! Strange hunh? Trash!!!! When we get our taxes there are some bible videogames I want to get them. Does anyone have the 411 on bible stuff to get involved with for teens? Like hobby stuff? I want to replace this with something. I know the chronicles of narnia are good. Going to get those. But I would love to have like a monthly magazine etc. I need to find a christian book store or something.

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Jasmine, I did not find out that my daughter was taking off, till she was well into adulthood. She is now a Child and Youth Worker, helping kids in all kinds of situations from 0 to 17, she works for a Crisis Centre and often goes out to see parents and kids, to help them with idea's, what is available in the area for help, she always talks one on one with the parents and kids to see each point of view. She can sometimes get more out of the kids talking this way. Not that I don't think your doing a good job Jasmine. But I would never of thought this girl of mine would choose this as a career.
That is awesome! I am so glad she turned out okay. It is great to know people who are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel! Like I told satan that nite when I took authority over this, she is MY daughter, NOT YOURS!! He can't have her!!!

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Jasmine, so sorry to hear about your daughter. I just saw something on a program this week about a school for the troubled/bad kids that they stopped using the government funded food (basically all crap) and do all the cooking themselves, fresh fruits/veggies/ good protein (I think no meat), no soda or candy machines in the building. Amazingly these kids are all doing much much better in behavior and school work. And the cost was the same as all the crap the government says is good for you. What you eat absolutely affects your behavior.
Exactly! I agree with this completely. What makes me mad is they feed them crap anyways. WHy????? I used to work at the cafeteria so i know what they eat in the jr. high. "pancake on a stick", churro, chocolate muffins, taco nada wrapped and heated in plastic!!!, chicken nuggest, corn dogs, pizza as an offering or choice every day!!! wrapped and heated in plastic!!! burritos the same way!! No more.

My two younger ones go to school later so I have been making them oatmeal and fruit or an egg toast and fruit for breakfast. SO that is a start. I need to get up earlier for Chris cause he goes at 6:50!! He told me they tryed to feed him cereal the other day!!!! Grrrr!!! SO I just need to get up a little earlier for him. We get our taxes they are all getting lunch boxes and the chili beans and sphgetti and chicken soup is pretty cheap to make. Plus has veggies and good stuff. I can make muffins premade and send that and an apple or an orange. We are going to get a wheat grinder so will start doing our own bread. Quite a few nites a week I am already making biscuits from scratch or corn bread from a mix, going to try to get some corn meal today. So once I can put all this into place it won't be too bad financially wise. Hopefully next year we can start rasing our won chickens and doing our own omega 3 eggs! Not to mention our own veggie garden etc.

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Also, does your daughter have a computer in her room? Sorry, but that's a huge no-no in my book. My kids complain that all their friends have computers and cell phones and tvs and stuff in their rooms. For one, they don't need it in their rooms and the internet is like opening your door and letting the whole world in -- the good, the bad and the ugly. And these kid's just don't have the skills to be able to sort out the difference. Adults can, but kids are just kids. Our computer is in our living room. I won't even put it in the basement; out of parent's sight is trouble. I hope you can work things out for your family. I'll say a pray for you and your family.
No the p.c. is in my room but I have allowed her to go on it and she usually went to youtube. Back when I didn't think there was anything wrong with the anime. No more! Thanx hun!!!!

Well, the scale actually did go down 1 lb. from last week. I'm very pleased! Just got done 25 minutes on the total gym and am off to walk the doggie.

That is great! Keep up the great work hun!!!

Well thanx ladies I do feel alot better and maybe this is just what she needs.

Despite all this I am still eating healthy! My cals have been around 1700 or so most nites. Been doing my kefir and my fruit and veggies. BEen keeping the carbs around 40% or so, trying to. The fat % has been a little higher than I would like,

1-15 1765 fat 35%/carbs 50%/protein 15%
1-16 1707 fat 42%/carbs 41%/protein 17%
1-17 1900 fat 44%/carbs 37%/protein 19%
1-18 1693 fat 44%/carbs 30%/protein 26%

The fat is higher than I wanted , want to keep it at 30-35 but oh well. It is working for me losing! I have lost two pounds this week so far! Yeah! I steppped on the scale this a.m. and am 205!!! SO I lost another pound this week! I am jazzed!!!

Tomorrow my dh wants to take us out to dinner and a movie. He sold some of his old stuff and made $100.00 so I am all for that! My all time fav meal is prime rib. Coco's is advertising it for $11.99!!! That is where we are going! Earlier in the week i was planning out to be really bad tomorrw! prime rib, baked potato with lots o butter and sour cream! salad w/ lots of ranch. hehehehe Maybe even a desert! Maybe even REAL soda!! hahahahah BIG HUGE bucket of super buttery popcorn!! and more soda!! But you know what? I have worked so hard on being good and am down two pounds and I know I will NOT forgive myself if I am back up to 206 cause of that! That is pointless. So I am going to enjoy my meal with diet soda! maybe split a desert with him. But NO on the popcorn!

Usually once a week we have been making our own popcorn in olive oil with me having maybe 1 tbs of real butter on top. Last week I had microwave popcorn with the real butter on top. (and it hasn't affected me losing, it actually usually doesn't, it is when I get rigorous and cut stuff like that out when i lose less!!!

Anyhow I told myself that the home made popcorn is fine, cause I know real stuff is going in it not that fake crap! with God only knows what kind of oil and butter. So I will have some of our own maybe sunday. That is my plan! I will do fruit smoothie for breakfast and maybe a light lunch. I can do this!!!

By the way I have already lost 5 pounds this month! Yeah!!! When I put my vday goal into fitday it says I need to lose 2.07 pounds a week. I can do this! You ladies can too!!

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