4th Day...No Weight Loss! :-(

  • Is this normal? I didn't expect to be losing super-fast, but shouldn't I have lost at least a couple of pounds?

    I read the book and understand the concept behind the diet, and I don't want to get discouraged, since it seems that many people have had success, but I gotta say, eating all that cheese/sour cream/eggs doesn't feel quite right.

    Anyway, I'm not giving up yet, but I would sure love to hear your thoughts on this.

    Thanks!
  • Are you in phase 1? are you following the recommendations as laid out in the book? ARe you eating your veggies and drinking water? Phase 1 works wonderfully if you follow it carefully, but the results vary from person to person, esp. if you only have a little to lose.

    Perhaps you could list what you have been eating and we'll offer some insight.
  • Yes, make sure you are eating exactly on par for Phase 1.
    a broad abroad is right---don't forget to eat lots of veggies!! (I should take this advice sometimes!)

    Most important of all, don't weigh yourself after only 4 days! I would wait until the end of the first 7 days...or even after the end of 14 days! You are likely to see much better results if you give it more time.

    Don't be discouraged!! Good luck!

    Lauren
  • While eggs are unlimited, I don't think the book says the same about cheese - even lowfat cheese. You shouldn't be eating a huge amount of cheese - and I see nothing in either the book or the updated food list about sour cream being permitted (on Phase1 that is). I haven't had any sour cream since I can't find out if I am allowed or not.

    Post a sample menu for us to see what you have been eating - we may be able to help you tweak it some.

    Sunday will be the end of my 3rd and final week on Phase 1, I haven't cheated once - I have lost 8lbs so far - would like that to be 10 by Sunday but I will be happy with 8.

    Kim
  • A lot of the phase 1 loss is water weight. I only lost 4 pounds in all of phase 1 because I was on a diuretic and had already lost the water when I went on that. Do not get discouraged. This is a lifestyle change and the weight will come off. As to sour cream, I don't have my Good Fats/Good Carbs with me at work but maybe someone can look it up.

    I really do credit eating lots of vegetables with my success. That can make a huge difference.

    Good luck and welcome to the Beach!
  • I found that the weight loss always came at the end of the week and came fast -- it's not a steady kind of thing -- i would get your self and few more days and try again!

    Lauren
  • correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought sour cream was allowed in limited amounts, and it counted towards your dairy servings...?
  • I found this about sour cream in a listing of allowed foods. It was under the seasonings area.
    Sour Cream, light and reduced-fat - 2 TBS

    I also found this (apparently there have been some additions to the official list such as turkey sausage):
    here's the current Phase 1 food list from the official site:

    Phase 1 Foods - Note: Portions are not limited unless otherwise specified.

    FOODS TO ENJOY

    PROTEIN
    BEEF Lean* cuts, such as:
    Bottom Round
    Eye of Round
    Flank Steak
    Ground beef:
    - Extra Lean (96/4)
    - Lean (92/8 )
    - Sirloin (90/10)
    London Broil
    Pastrami, lean
    Sirloin Steak
    T-bone
    Tenderloin
    Top Loin
    Top Round

    * Lean meat has, per 100 gram portion, 10 grams or less of total fat and 4.5 grams or less of saturated fat.

    POULTRY (SKINLESS)
    Cornish hen
    Low-fat turkey sausage (3-6 grams of fat per 60 gram serving) can be eaten as an occasional treat (approximately once/week)
    Turkey bacon (2 slices per day)
    Turkey and chicken breast

    SEAFOOD
    All types of fish and shellfish
    Water-packed tuna and other canned fish
    Salmon roe
    Sashimi

    PORK
    Boiled ham
    Canadian bacon
    Loin
    Tenderloin

    VEAL
    Chop
    Cutlet, leg
    Top round

    LAMB (Remove all visible fat)
    Center Cut
    Chop
    Loin

    LUNCHMEAT
    Fat-free or low-fat only
    Boiled ham
    Deli sliced turkey breast
    Steamship roast beef
    Smoked ham

    MEAT SUBSTITUTES (SOY BASED)
    Unless otherwise stated, look for products that have 6 grams of fat or less per 2-3 ounce serving
    Bacon - Limit to 2 slices per day
    Burger
    Chicken, unbreaded
    Hot Dogs
    Sausage Patties and Links - Limit 1 patty or 2 links per day
    Seiten
    Soy Crumbles - 1/4 cup (2 oz) suggested serving
    Soy Nuts - 1/4 cup for a protein snack is suggested serving
    Tempeh 1/4 cup suggested serving
    Tofu All varieties, 1/2 cup suggested serving
    Yuba (Bean Curd or Sheet)

    CHEESE (FAT-FREE OR LOW-FAT)
    Look for varieties that have 6 grams of fat or less/ounce
    American
    Cheddar
    Cottage cheese, 1-2% or fat-free
    Cream cheese substitute, dairy-free
    Feta
    Mozzarella
    Parmesan
    Part-skim Ricotta
    Part-skim String
    Provolone

    EGGS
    The use of whole eggs is not limited unless otherwise directed by your doctor. Use egg whites and egg substitute as desired.

    MILK/DAIRY
    (2-3 cups allowed daily, including yogurt)
    Low-fat milk (fat-free and 1%)
    Fat-free 1/2 & 1/2 (less than 2 tablespoons)
    Low-fat plain, vanilla, or sucralose-containing soy milk (4 grams of fat or less per 8 ounce serving). Be sure the product does not contain high fructose corn syrup
    1% or fat-free buttermilk
    Fat-free plain yogurt

    BEANS/LEGUMES
    (Start with 1/3 - 1/2 cup serving)
    Adzuki Beans
    Black Beans
    Black-eyed peas
    Broad Beans
    Butter Beans
    Cannellini Beans
    Chickpeas or Garbanzo
    Edamame
    Great Northern Beans
    Italian Beans
    Kidney Beans
    Lentils
    Lima Beans
    Mung Beans
    Navy Beans
    Pigeon Peas
    Pinto Beans
    Soy Beans
    Split Peas
    White Beans

    VEGETABLES
    (May use fresh, frozen or canned without added sugar)
    Artichokes
    Arugula
    Asparagus
    Broccoli
    Bok Choy
    Brussels Sprouts
    Cabbage
    Capers
    Cauliflower
    Celery
    Chayote
    Chicory
    Collard Greens
    Cucumbers
    Eggplant
    Endive
    Fennel
    Garlic
    Green Beans
    Hearts of palm
    Jicama
    Kale
    Leeks
    Lettuce (All varieties)
    Mushrooms (All varieties)
    Mustard Greens
    Nopales
    Okra
    Onions
    Parsley
    Peppers (All varieties)
    Pickles - Dill or artificially sweetened
    Radicchio
    Radishes (All varieties)
    Rhubarb
    Sauerkraut
    Scallions
    Sea Vegetables
    Snap Peas
    Snow peas
    Spinach
    Sprouts
    Squash, Spaghetti
    Squash, SummerYellow
    Zucchini
    Swiss Chard
    Tomato
    Tomato Juice
    Turnip Greens
    Vegetable Juice Cocktail
    Water Chestnuts
    Watercress
    Wax Beans
    Zucchini

    NUTS AND SEEDS (Limit to one serving per day as specified. Dry roasted recommended.)
    Almonds - 15
    Brazil Nuts - 4
    Cashews - 15
    Flax Seed - 3 TBS (1 oz)
    Macadamia - 8
    Peanut Butter, Natural, and other nut butters - 2 TBS
    Peanuts, 20 small (May use dry roasted or boiled)
    Pecans - 15
    Pine Nuts (Pignolia) - 1 ounce
    Pistachios - 30
    Pumpkin Seeds - 3 TBS (1 oz)
    Sesame Seeds - 3 TBS (1 oz)
    Soy Nuts - 1/4 cup
    Sunflower Seeds - 3 TBS (1 oz)
    Walnuts - 15

    FATS/OILS
    The following monounsaturated oils are recommended to be consumed daily:
    Oil, canola
    Oil, olive
    Other Oil Choices that may be chosen (Polyunsaturated or a blend of Monounsaturated):
    Corn
    Enova
    Flax
    Grapeseed
    Peanut
    Safflower
    Sesame
    Soybean
    Sunflower
    Other Fat Choices:
    Avocado - 1/3 whole = 1 TBS oil
    Guacamole - 1/2 cup = 1 TBS oil
    Margarine - Chose those that do not contain Trans Fatty Acids such as Fleishmann's Premium Olive Oil or Smart Balance
    Mayonnaise - Regular - 1 TBS
    Mayonnaise - Low Fat - 2 TBS (avoid varieties made with high fructose corn syrup)
    Olives (Green or Ripe) 15 = 1/2 TBS oil
    Salad Dressing - 2 TBS. Use those that contain 3 grams of sugar or less per 2 TBS. Best choices contain canola or olive oil. Low carb salad dressings may also be used if they meet these guidelines.

    SEASONINGS AND CONDIMENTS
    All spices that contain no added sugar
    Broth
    Espresso powder
    Extracts (almond, vanilla, or others)
    Horseradish sauce
    I Can't Believe It's Not Butter! Spray
    Lemon Juice
    Lime Juice
    Pepper (black, cayenne, red, white)
    Salsa (check labels for added sugar)
    Use the following toppings and sauces sparingly (check labels for added sugar and MSG)
    Cream Cheese, fat-free or light - 2 TBS
    Hot Sauce
    Low carb condiments, as long as they meet South Beach guidelines (have no added fat and are sugar-free/contain no added sugar)
    Miso - 1/2 TBS
    Shoyu - 1/2 TBS
    Sour Cream, light and reduced-fat - 2 TBS
    Soy Sauce - 1/2 TBS
    Steak Sauce - 1/2 TBS
    Tamari
    Worcestershire Sauce - 1 TBS
    Whipped Topping, Light or Fat-Free - 2 TBS

    SWEET TREATS (Limit to 75 calories per day)
    Sweet treats are items that contain sugar alcohols, such as:
    Candies, hard, sugar-free
    Chocolate powder, no-added-sugar
    Cocoa powder, baking type
    Fudgsicles, no sugar added
    Gelatin, sugar-free
    Gum, sugar-free
    James and jellies, sugar-free
    Popsicles, sugar-free
    Syrups, sugar-free
    Whipped topping, light or fat-free - 2 TBS
    Some Sugar Free Products may be made with sugar alcohols (isomalt, lactitol, mannitol, sorbitol or xylitol) and are permitted on the SBD. They may have associated side effects of GI distress (abdominal pain, diarrhea & gas) if consumed in excessive amounts.

    SUGAR SUBSTITUTES
    Acesulfame K
    Fructose (needs to be counted as Sweet Treats, Caloric Limit)
    Nutrasweet (Equal)
    Saccharin (Sweet & Low)
    Sucralose (Splenda)
    Whey Low (contains lactose and fructose)

    BEVERAGES
    Decaf Coffee and Tea
    Diet, decaffeinated, sugar-free sodas and drinks
    Herbal teas (peppermint, chamomile, etc.)
    Milk (1% or fat-free) and soymilk (low-fat plain). See MILK/DAIRY.
    Sugar-free powdered drink mixes
    Vegetable Juice
    Note: caffeinated coffee or diet sodas with caffeine added are allowed, but limited to 1 - 2 servings per day.

    FOODS TO AVOID

    BEEF
    Brisket
    Jerky, unless homemade without sugar
    Liver
    Other fatty cuts
    Prime Rib
    Rib steaks

    POULTRY
    Chicken, wings and legs
    Duck
    Goose
    Poultry products, processed
    Turkey, dark meat (including wings and thighs)

    PORK
    Honey-baked ham
    Pork rinds

    VEAL
    Breast

    CHEESE
    Brie
    Edam
    Nonreduced fat

    VEGETABLES
    Beets
    Carrots
    Corn
    Green peas
    Potatoes, white
    Potatoes, sweet
    Pumpkin
    Turnips (root)
    Winter squash
    Yams

    FRUIT
    Avoid all fruits and fruit juices in Phase 1, including:
    Apples
    Apricots
    Berries
    Cantaloupe
    Grapefruit
    Peaches
    Pears

    STARCHES AND CARBS
    Avoid all starchy food in Phase 1, including:
    Bread, all types
    Cereal
    Croutons, all types
    Matzo
    Oatmeal
    Rice, all types
    Pasta, all types
    Pastry and baked goods, all types

    MILK/DAIRY
    Ice cream
    Milk, whole

    MISCELLANEOUS
    No regular ketchup or cocktail sauce
    No pork rinds - too high in saturated fat
    No jerky - too high in sugar content

    BEVERAGES
    Alcohol of any kind, including beer and wine

    And here's the current Phase 2 list of foods to reintroduce:

    Phase 2 Foods
    You can enjoy all of the foods allowed in Phase 1 as well as those listed below.

    Foods you can reintroduce to your diet

    BEEF
    All hot dogs (beef, pork, poultry, soy) can be enjoyed occasionally (once/week) if they are at least 97% fat free (contain 3-6 grams of fat/serving).

    FRUIT (Start with one daily serving, gradually increase to 3 total servings daily)
    Apples - 1 small or 5 dried rings
    Apricots - 4 fresh or 7 dried
    Banana, medium-sized (4 oz.)
    Berries, all - 3/4 cup
    Cactus Pear Fruit (Prickly Pear)
    Cantaloupe - 1/4, or 1 cup diced
    Cherries - 12
    Grapefruit - 1/2
    Grapes - 15
    Kiwi - 1
    Mangoes - 1/2 medium (4 oz.)
    Oranges - 1 medium
    Papaya - 1 small (4 oz.)
    Peaches - 1 medium
    Pears - 1 medium
    Plantain
    Plums - 2
    Prunes - 4

    MILK/DAIRY
    (2-3 cups allowed daily, including yogurt)
    Yogurt - artificially sweetened non-fat flavored yogurt (limit to 4 ounces daily and avoid varieties that contain high fructose corn syrup)

    STARCHES (Start with one daily serving, gradually increase to 3 total servings daily.) Unless otherwise stated, choose whole grain products that have 3 grams of fiber or more per ounce.

    Bagels, small, whole grain - 1/2, or 1 oz.
    Barley - 1/2 cup
    Bread
    - homemade breads using whole grains (buckwheat, whole wheat, spelt, whole oats, bran, rye)
    - multigrain
    - oat and bran
    - rye
    - sourdough (may be used, but whole grain is the best choice)
    - sprouted grain
    - whole wheat
    Buckwheat
    Calabaza (considered a starchy vegetable; count as a starch/grain serving)
    Cassava (considered a starchy vegetable; count as a starch/grain serving)
    Cereal
    - Choose whole grain and slow-cooking varieties (no instant types) with 6-8 grams of fiber or more per serving
    - Hot- 1/3-1/2 cup, uncooked
    - Cold - 30 grams/1 ounce/3/4 cup
    Couscous, whole-wheat or Israeli - 1/2 cup cooked
    Crackers, whole grain with 3 grams of fiber or more per ounce and no trans fats
    English muffins, whole grain - 1/2, or 1 oz.
    (most contain 2.5 grams of fiber per half a muffin—varieties varieties with 3 grams of fiber are the best choice.)
    Green Peas - 1/2 cup (considered a starchy vegetable; count as a starch/grain serving)
    Muffins, bran - 1 small, homemade sugar-free (no raisins)
    Pasta
    Whole wheat is best choice - 1/2 cup cooked (3 grams of fiber or more per 1/2 cup)
    Soy is second best choice - 1/2 cup cooked (3 grams of fiber or more per 1/2 cup)
    Pita - 1/2, or 1 oz.
    - stone-ground
    - whole wheat
    - (most contain 2.5 grams of fiber—varieties with 3 grams of fiber are the best choice.)
    Popcorn, 3 cups popped
    - Air popped
    - Microwave, plain, no trans fats
    - Cooked stove-top with canola oil
    Potato, sweet, small (considered a starchy vegetable; count as a starch/grain serving)
    Pumpkin (considered a starchy vegetable; count as a starch/grain serving)
    Quinoa, 1/2 cup cooked
    Rice - 1/2 cup cooked
    - basmati
    - brown
    - converted or parboiled
    - wild
    Rice noodles
    Soba noodles
    Taro (considered a starchy vegetable; count as a starch/grain serving)
    Tortillas, 100% whole grain, 3 grams of fiber or more per ounce, no trans fats
    Winter squash (considered a starchy vegetable; count as a starch/grain serving)
    Yams, small (considered a starchy vegetable; count as a starch/grain serving)

    VEGETABLES
    Carrots

    OCCASIONAL TREATS
    Chocolate (sparingly)
    - bittersweet
    - semisweet

    SWEET TREATS
    Pudding, fat-free and sugar-free (1 serving per day)

    BEVERAGES
    Wine (1 - 2 glasses daily with or after meals)
  • Barb, thanks so much for posting this. I will cut and paste into the FAQ Section. Do you know when these updates were made?
  • I don't know, Ruth but apparently someone on another site went to the paid site and looked at the updates (which I guess can be done even if you are not a paid user). They then asked someone to get the updated lists and this is what they came up with. I gather they are recent changes.
  • Thanks, Barb. I'll update our FAQ because there seem to be some differences.
  • Yes thanks Barb. According to this we can have pinto beans in phase 1. I never understood why we couldn't but glad to know that now they are "legal". lol
  • I don't see pumpkin on allowed foods. In the shoppers guide it's under very limited. Winter squash I guess would be butternut, acorn or speghetti are considered starches? Boy this is getting harder and harder. I am very confused. I have canned pumpkin and a butternut squash and it looks like it's a no no. Bummer.
  • BTW turnips is listed as good in the shoppers guide. More confusion