Nothing helpful to offer here. But DD is always trying to convince me that the waist is just above the pubic bone, ya know, just above the "hairline." Seems like since the fashion has been to wear things so low, they have forgotten where the waist actually is. I always thought it was above the navel, where you curve in. But then I am from the 70's, and we wore our pants very high!
Just makes me wonder, if they put a waist size on low rise jean, is it actually the hip measurement? If so, the 28" waisted woman, would actually probably wear a 34" waisted jean.
Very confusing, and I don't wear low waisted anything, so I'm not sure how they do it now, but maybe that's why!
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